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>>339244

>Mother Earth, Mother Board

This one?

https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/

Yes, I'm familiar with the rubber duck and it helps me solve 90% of the problems I encounter.

>>339310

>Game still alive? Or the cuckposting killed it?

I haven't settled on it exactly yet; it's harder to write, but it makes more gamey sense. We'll see where it ends up. I'm going to give myself license to take it where the muse takes me.

>>338979

Game is still alive. I needed a break and had to do some restructering to get it back on track. I'm writing a developer diary that I linked earlier and that post will explain what's up.

I kinda like the serious discussion, even about what is and isn't cuckdom. It certainly isn't going to scare me off.

>>337700

>What if the purification is about reforming corrupted habits that are not related to sex

Currently (completely subject to change) about 15 of the 53 corruptions are explicitly sexual in nature.

>>337634

Judging from what I've made so far, it will be more gamey than Teaching Feeling, but not by a large margin.

At the speed things have been going this week, should have a new build up by the weekend.

There's also the first developer diary entry:

https://purificationgame.wordpress.com

Just making sure as I'm making a final decision on a couple of things; what type of corruption should absolutely be included to be purified? (ie debt / sex addiction / attentionwhore / demonic possession etc)

>>341158

>Just wanted to say that I really support this project. I think the niche is definitely there and I really hope this gets developed. I'm rooting for you man. Let us know anything you need in terms of input, bug testing, copy editing, whatever.

Sometimes work on this is like being deep inside a tunnel and then suddenly POP, there's this light that guides me forward.

Thank you for your message.

I do need to set up some system for copy-editing. Input is always appreciated. I'm sure people will give me flak for any encountered bugs as I continue publishing builds and I'm grateful for it.

>>341160

>I am open to any/all types of corruption. I am really interested in this project because of the organizing/cleaning aspect. I don't really care if it's stepfordizing a whore or fixing a drug addiction I love the idea of fixing/improving people…..then fucking the new and improved versions

Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it!

>>341028

>Total bitches are fine, but I don't want to fuck any whores.

>Debt could be good. Usurious bitch selling girls to brothel, teach her to not be a kike with dick and on the other side, buying a girl with a gambling problem or whatever and teaching her the error of her ways with dick

>I would want to play as a shrew-taming simulator. Some white-knighting could be okay. But black-knighting is where it's at.

This has given me a lot of food for thought once again. There are a lot of thoughts I'd like to expand on in regards to this, but I'll put them into the game. Thanks for giving further inspiration.

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>>341940

>>341940

>Drug addicted girls are almost never virgins since their dealers end up fucking them.

Good observation.

>>342216

>Best trak then, find/build an secure, isolated, location, where adults are converted to guard and others tasks.

>Bringng in young enough girls who will receive the best possible éducation.

I don't speak french, so I didn't catch all of that.

Though I think the game itself requires me to make good judgements about what is true or false, good and bad. Not even a little bit, but strongly. I think it's better for me to judge wrong than be too careful in making these judgements. But moral relativism is completely out of place for this game idea.

We'll see, this is just discussion of plans, it's hard to in advance tell if my intentions will match with what I end up creating.

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I plan to release my new work schedule as well as some other news this thursday and go back to doing releases every 2 weeks like I did at the beginning.

I am going to do 3 releases in the coming five weeks.

May 31, june 13 and june 27.

At that release I will judge if I consider it viable and worth continuing or not. I'd like to be as open with my intentions as possible.

It's a challenge to myself to make a kind of mvp by that time.

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I was curious to your thoughts about one other topic and that is frequency of tittilation and sex scenes.

I've been replaying a couple of other games. Jack o nine has the ability to go into a kind if active sex mode, which allows you to set your own pace of frequency of sex scenes. Henthigh has a very slow pace to unlock sex scenes and with a lot less control until you've completed corruption paths.

I'm also thinking of some of the older hentai games like true love that had a storied structure and some management, and then long drawn out sex scenes.

Then there's domething like say, soldier's life which besides not really being hentai, has this very grindy linear structure.

I am curious to hear a couple of your thoughts on opinions on this.

1. How do you feel about always being in control when the opportunities for sex happen or being somewhat more reactive whether you seize the opportunities that present themselves?

2. What frequency would you like sex/tittilation scenes to happen? As much as possible? Some pacing and buildup? Or even as slow as say Henthigh? I'm aiming for some balance between the two, but don't know which side to lean on.

3. What's better; extensively written scenes with pictured or some audio visual interactivity?

>>348960

>>348960

>All I ask is some aural stimulation. And squeaky anime sounds, please, no rutting hog 3dpd clips. The "masturbation with vibrator.mp3" clip sounds like someone fisting a jar of mayonnaise.

Good find. I didn't expect people to go snooping through the files and that file shouldn't have shipped anyways.

It's something that I hadn't put too much thought in so far and will give some attention in the future thanks to your advice.

I hope you continue to comment on the aural part in the future.

>>350679

>>350679

Post the url of this thread into archive.is

>>353127

>Hey how is the first update coming along? I'm really excited to play this.

Happy to hear it and sorry for missing all the releases I planned.

I fucked up with the planning, I ended up not having much time to work on it at all.

There was also some production issues.

I kept rewriting the same part over and over and I kept being unhappy with the results. I realized I needed to learn more, got some help and books, and I'm finally developing the tools to be able create something that works. This should help me be much more productive and effective with my time in the future. We'll see.

I do like putting deadlines up and keeping to them, so I'll put up new ones this weekend and I'm not going to miss them again.

>>351132

>Why have a monodimensional degree of corruption? You could have some elements to keep on balance, just like in the android game Lapse. And why not a score on the seven sins?

Corruption isn't monodimensional. There are 4 dimensions of corruptions for yourself, and the corruption of girls is dealt differently with per corruption.

I like the 7 sins model of viewing corruption. For the themes and stories I want to weave through this game, it wasn't the right model.

The next release will be uploaded 5 july, come hell or high water.

>>311072

On its own, this is a terrible idea for a porn game. You're doing the same as the sidescrollers and "don't get raped" VNs are doing. In the end the player fails on purpse cause they want to jack off. Don't provide the best reward for the worse action. Instead provide the best reward for the best action. The 4th wall "lul you have to fight corruption irl" shit is just gonna suck.

Now, I could see this work if the "lewdest" scenes with corruption side effects actually felt less wholesome somehow. But since OP's writing it on his own, he'd have to make up pretty good stories to make the pure scenes really wholesome and good. Really proper writing required. Not saying he can't do it, just saying it's tough. Also, you can't really have all pure scenes be strict vanilla, the player will get bored and start going corruption out of sheer boredom. In my opinion, keep different kinks in pure scenes but make them wholesome and affectionate. Maybe a pure girl has to have the corruption beaten out of her during sex and the PC has to dominate, get rough and physical, etc. but that's their thing and she's more in love with the PC for it. Obviously certain fetishes like cuck shit are out since they directly oppose the idea of pure.

You could also make it more free-form where the player decides whether he wants to go pure or corrupt or something in the middle but I don't think you want that since the whole point is purification. So, again, you should make the pure scenes the real, biggest rewards and after doing a certain amount of corruption, the girl should enter a fail state where you can't reach proper purification anymore, only max corruption if you keep going.

Okay one more week to go until the next release. So far so good.

>>358967

>>358970

>Now, I could see this work if the "lewdest" scenes with corruption side effects actually felt less wholesome somehow. But since OP's writing it on his own, he'd have to make up pretty good stories to make the pure scenes really wholesome and good. Really proper writing required. Not saying he can't do it, just saying it's tough. Also, you can't really have all pure scenes be strict vanilla, the player will get bored and start going corruption out of sheer boredom. In my opinion, keep different kinks in pure scenes but make them wholesome and affectionate. Maybe a pure girl has to have the corruption beaten out of her during sex and the PC has to dominate, get rough and physical, etc. but that's their thing and she's more in love with the PC for it. Obviously certain fetishes like cuck shit are out since they directly oppose the idea of pure.

>You could also make it more free-form where the player decides whether he wants to go pure or corrupt or something in the middle but I don't think you want that since the whole point is purification.

I'm not a really proper writer. I'd like to be. I might develop into one. I'm not one, yet. I'm working hard at it and I have a decent selection of skills that should taken together deliver a worthwhile package and something fairly unique.

The release on friday is something that will clearly set the tone of what to expect storywise and I am looking forward to how it will be received. The two weeks after I will focus on experimenting with some gameplay ideas. I'm considering making a couple of gameplay prototypes and seeing which are the most fun to play with.

>So, again, you should make the pure scenes the real, biggest rewards and after doing a certain amount of corruption, the girl should enter a fail state where you can't reach proper purification anymore, only max corruption if you keep going.

It's subject to change, but currently there's 4 vectors of corruption and it might not be easy (or necessary) to keep each vector 100% pure.

I really like the idea of the game, but I'm not sure if the focus is in the right place. This is still very early in development. Story can be changed, the setting can be changed, the characters can be changed.

The most important thing is to choose the basic building blocks. For a game, the setting isn't as important as the gameplay, so I'd set the game's starting state, end state and progress system as the most important building blocks. Have you decided them yet? From what I'm seeing, they're still quite open.

What is the (game's/woman's) starting state?

What is the end state?

How to get from start to end state, while making the progress/gameplay interesting, getting to the end state rewarding, etc.

Start state isn't just "woman bad she has sex", and surely there's some more interesting end state than "woman good she holds hands and blushes".

To make a porn game, the start state and the end state should both be full of sex, with enough options and choices to keep the player's interest. One simple way would be to keep the same sex scenes, but change their context and how the characters feel about that.

For example, let's say that the start state is one where the woman is psychologically unable and unwilling to ever say no to anything. The end state for that scenario could be a healthy relationship, where the woman knows she can stop, at any time, if she wants to (but she doesn't), and she's not afraid to have sex, and she is willing to have sex without thinking of it as a bargaining chip. Something like a BDSM-style safe word that the woman can say, and the player can ignore, might be an interesting tool in a game like that. Pic is kinda related - an abused character like Tuare from Overlord would make for a very different game, more about healing and less about how much sex she wants to have.

There's other possible starting states and ending states, of course, and that's just one. OP needs to pick the ones he wants to see.

Then you need to choose how to get from start to end state.

Do you want the player to grind, and then get the result? Many games go this route. Collect X amount of money, click her boobs Y amount of times before clicking her vagina, repeat headpats until stamine bar is empty, etc.

This type of gameplay is simple to do, but rarely very good in porn games.

Do you want the player to make choices, and replay/retry until they have figured out the right choices? "Give her some space" could be a positive, a negative or a neutral option in different contexts, figuring out which type of gift gives you most heart points, figuring out which job gives you the most money most efficiently, etc are common blind choices in porn games.

This type of gameplay is very common in visual novels. The player might need to repeat the whole game, and it might even take multiple retries before they start to understand how the different choices actually progress the game.

Some games have informed choice type of thing. This is similar to the Bioware dialogue stuff - good or bad, villain or paragon, purify or corrupt, etc. If there's more to the game than a simple purification bar, having informed choices instead of blind choices would be much better. Stuff like: Have rough sex with her ( Horniness -, happy +) or Tease her ( horniness ++) etc where the player can actually see some of the underlying systems would be like this. I think this would fit the best for the multiple-axes-of-corruption thing you mentioned.

Are you familiar with the mind control fetish crowd? If you make it possible to control the woman's state so that the player can mold her into a very specific state of mind, that's not too far from the theme of certain mind control games.

How are you going to visualize the different axes of corruption? There's a bunch of japanese games with 3D characters where there are two axes of corruption, something like happiness and horniness. They form a square map with different areas, and the character's state of mind is controlled by the two axes' values. When happiness and horniness are high, the character is a slut. If horniness goes down, the character is promiscuous (still happy, but not as horny). If happiness goes down, the character still agrees to sex, but doesn't like it. Any two axes can be combined into an image where different areas match different states of mind or whatever, and it's easy to visualize. If you choose proper axes, you could make two separate maps, which would control and visualize two different aspects of her personality.

Finally, I'd like to point out that the premise doesn't automatically make this game wholesome. I'm again comparing this to mind control stuff - it'd be easy to imagine a game where someone trains random whores into perfectly obedient maids or whatever, with none of the wholesomeness.

>>360081

>>360081

>Some games have informed choice type of thing. This is similar to the Bioware dialogue stuff - good or bad, villain or paragon, purify or corrupt, etc.

Thank you.

You've given a lot think about in your entire comment.

I have a rough idea of beginning and end state and have made a lot of decisions behind the scenes. I have chosen not to share most of those decisions, because I know my enjoyment as a player would be to explore it in the game, rather than to have it explained to me. It also gives me some freedom to adjust along the way as I build and write more.

I think the good bad, villain paragon, open hand closed fist, lawful good, chaotic evil… these systems aren't really a game. They do not offer continual game options.

Most of the time, you make the choice once, at the beginning, and then for each dilemma try to figure out what answer is compatible with the run you're doing. This is the good run. That is the evil run. There is something very boring about the practical choice offered. Yet we are fascinated by morality systems and ethical choices, or we wouldn't keep putting them into games.

My initial attempted solution (first couple of posts in the thread) was to have some roguelike elements. With limited resources and unsure survival, I thought, one would be more readily tempted to deviate from the original plan.

Looking back on that, I think it was a foolish train of thought. It would simply repriotize decisions on necessity rather than morality, and then back to morality once you've mastered the game.

I've come up with some new ideas to address both these dilemma's that may work well or not, we'll see.

It's very valuable to continue to read thoughts on executing this concept.

I know that expectations and results never align perfectly, but I'm working hard to do the concept justice.

To answer some of your other questions:

Yes, it is my intention to build some simulation that is not fully prescripted/written if you get what I mean. I suppose you could call that grind.

I see there is a lot of misunderstandings about the corruption mechanics. I think it will make more sense when they're experienced in game. There are in some sense two different corruption systems, one for the girls and one for yourself. The player's corruption is the one balanced on four corruption axis.

>Do you want the player to make choices, and replay/retry until they have figured out the right choices?

There is a mix between choices that have short term results, choices that have long term results, choices that have only cosmetic results and choices that close off entire branches of story.

The build I'm releasing friday is a test of the intro and setting, a test of the writing.

The build after that (in 3 weeks time) will test some of the gameplay parts and probably include a vote on which of those to go forward with.

>For example, let's say that the start state is one where the woman is psychologically unable and unwilling to ever say no to anything. The end state for that scenario could be a healthy relationship, where the woman knows she can stop, at any time, if she wants to (but she doesn't), and she's not afraid to have sex, and she is willing to have sex without thinking of it as a bargaining chip. Something like a BDSM-style safe word that the woman can say, and the player can ignore, might be an interesting tool in a game like that.

An interesting premise, thanks. Your point is well received, in regards to both the start and end being full of sex and changing the context, even though I might not do it exactly like that.

I'm going to take 24 more hours before releasing the next build

Going beyond the more realistic thot->wife, I might like some full Devil Eater stuff. Let me fight a demon. If I lose I get raped, if I win she turns into an angel you can have consensual sex with

https://exhentai.org/s/6707805d04/527421-14

Can we get an option to choose the mc name