No.17282
I am curious what the mentality on this board is towards sex. Are you a sex positive person or a sex negative person? No judgement, we are allowed to disagree.
I'll go first. My position is complicated. I find it distasteful to flaunt "the goods" in public. Of course it's circumstantial. At the beach or pool it's perfectly acceptable to wear what you wish. Day to day I personally choose to wear well-fitted clothing that shows off my figure but not my skin (just a little skin); this way I feel feminine and modest.
In relationships, I believe in exploration. You can have more than one partner in your lifetime and you can choose to never be married if you wish. I believe each partner you have should always mean something to you. I also believe in being a lady out in public but a tiger in the sheets. Sexuality is fun and important but should be kept private. So I suppose I could say I am sex positive in private but sex negative in public.
What about you?
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No.17284
I couldn't care less if people wore beach-tier "immodest" clothes everywhere.
After all, we are born naked and there is nothing inherently sexual about mere human skin. In nudist communities any type of overt sexual behavior is actually a big no-no. It may seem hard to believe, what with all the naked people running around, but these places are not sexually charged environments.
So for me, this is only a question of aesthetics, hygiene, health and safety.
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No.17291
>>17284
That's fair enough. I don't feel there's anything wrong with nudity. I have been to a nudist beach a few times myself and was completely comfortable.
I just hold more traditional standards, and feel that in mainstream society everything is oversexualized and while there's nothing wrong with sexuality I think overt displays should be private. You can be sexy and not slutty.
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No.17635
>dress
a look into primitive, ancient and traditional cultures will have you seeing a pattern of coming-of-age rituals and dress codes for the sexes, age groups and situations.
children dress like children, single adults dress like single adults, married adults dress like married adults.
(((modern culture))) is less straight forward, and issues arise when conforming to this culture means sending natural signals and attracting natural attention without consciously meaning to.
>sex
"there is no such thing as casual sex. there's nothing casual about sex. it's as intimate with another person as you'll get." - dr.frogleaf
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No.18061
>>17282
Im certainly not sex negative. I think that my more conservative leaning views on sex come from a positive look on it.
Sex and sexuality to me are something special, and should be reserved for those you truly love (and in an ideal perfect scenario, only for your husband). Anything passed out to the majority isnt worth much.
It will mean more to you and be better for you to keep sex exclusive to serious relationships.
Sex has a risk of pregnancy and the ultimate purpose of sex is children, so dont have sex with anyone you would NEVER have kids with.
Your body also will mean more and be more exciting for you to share if you arent sharing it with everybody all the time. Your husband seeing you naked will actually feel more special and intimate if everyone else hasnt basically seen it all already too. People will also focus less on your goods and more on your person, if you arent flaunting the goods.
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No.18154
>>17282
>this way I feel feminine and modest
You shouldn't, because it is still whorish. Tight clothing is nothing but paint over your skin and showing skin is still arousing for men. Women dressed modestly not because of women, but because of men. Men are easily stimulated by vision, women know that and dress accordingly like whores because they have only offer a vain character.
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No.18155
>>18154
Either you envisioned something different or are an Islamist level prude but well-fitting clothing is not whorish. Pics related would not be categorized by any sane mind as wanton attire and if you disagree you're either a troll or a proponent of the burka.
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No.18156
>>18154
>Tight clothing
Read what I said again.
>choose to wear well-fitted clothing that shows off my figure but not my skin (just a little skin)
Well-fitted as opposed to big, drapey garments; skin tight is antithetical to well-fitted because it is uncomfortable. "A little skin" is arms or forearms and clavicles, hardly anything to write PlayBoy about.
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No.18159
>>18155
I envision a Christian approved™ level of modest. Women wearing pants looks completely unfeminine, and in the second pic of yours you would still see her buttocks (jiggle around), especially in these hooker-heels.
>but well-fitting clothing is not whorish
I didn't address "well-fitting" but tight clothes - you twist my words around. You don't decide that, every piece of clothing that is there to stimuly arousal in men is whorish, and tight and revealing clothes do exactly that. I can tell you that because I am a man and every man I talked with agrees with me. They don't tell you that in your face because their emasculated and porn-infested minds minds prevent them to.
>>18156
>Well-fitted as opposed to big, drapey garments
Again, I mentioned whorish attire specifically, how you associate "well-fitting" with that is beyond me. There doesn't need to be an extreme with too "drapey" garments either. In pics related you have examples of how women should dress in this day and age. Veiled would be ideal. It looks very feminine and modest, quite respectable and worth complimenting when seen on the streets because it became such a rarity.
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No.18160
>>18156
>>18155
Somehow didn't upload the best pic.
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No.18161
>>18156
>>18155
And I know you wrote "well fitting" in the OP but also "shows off my figure", if that isn't body-paint clothing then I don't know what it is supposed to implicate. Independently of how you dress though, given by your OP that you believe in "exploration" and see sex as fun and games, getting your love-hole ravaged by your non-husbands should be more of a concern than dressing "traditional".
Sex is bonding and procreation time with spouse, if it is not then it is just a build-up to feel a couple seconds of pleasure; it ends in cum, just cum and nothing more. If it is not your with your husband then you won't have certainty if giving your body was even enough to have him committed to you.
I sincerely hope you don't have a high count, or else I have very bad news for you.
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No.18167
>>18159
I disagree that a woman seems *unfeminine* in pants. Unfeminine would be not feminine, no trace of femininity, if she wears pants.
A dress is certainly more feminine but to say that a woman loses all of her womanly aura or beauty if she wears some fuckin pants is ridiculous.
And wouldnt that make pants (with the butt covered) even better then for modesty?
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No.18172
>>18167
>And wouldnt that make pants (with the butt covered) even better then for modesty?
Not neccessarily because a proper skirt or dress doesn't or barily shows any lower body figure. A woman doesn't lose her beauty because of pants, but her femininity for sure. I grew up with women wearing pants my whole life but it still looks ridiculous to me. Pants were always a man's clothing and women wearing them is only a late trend. Maybe it isn't even about the pants, but I guess women feel less feminine when wearing pants and start to walk like men as well. My disposition is fully conservative, hence there isn't a twilight zone for me in regards to women and pants.
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No.18176
>>18172
>she's graceful, quiet, gentle
>tends to flowers and wears flowy/pretty tops
>loves children and animals
>kind and feels true joy in aiding other people
>genuinely likes the act of cooking since it lets her make others happy
>wears pants
UNFEMININE
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No.18177
>>18176
Now, you can either learn from I've written to you and apply it to your life, or you can play the emotion-card of pulling one strawman after another. It certainly looks unfeminine, if your are unfeminine is a different story, but a truly submissive and traditional woman would wear skirts and dresses, and not argue over nothing.
End of discussion.
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No.18178
>>18177
Just because something has been done for awhile doesn't make it inherently superior. A perfectly loving and happy family can be made with a wife who wears pants as easily as one who prefers dresses. When things are unknown, going back to tradition is superior, but when it's found that an aspect of tradition is unnecessary or not beneficial, or has simply gone out of taste to no detriment, then that isnt an issue.
Traditionalism as a position is a silly one to hold, because it's entirely subjective. How far back are you going? Whose tradition?
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No.18180
>>18178
>How far back are you going?
Hard to tell, because every kind degeneracy went rampant at every point in time in every kind of place, that is my fair assumption. So there isn't an ideal time to go back to.
>Whose tradition?
The one that abides by the law of Moses.
>Traditionalism as a position is a silly one to hold, because it's entirely subjective
To some degree it is, but morality is universal. With that mindset, enjoy your future gender-queer studies and repopulation by 3rd world savages, you had it coming.
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No.18181
>>18180
I agree morality is universal, but I cannot fathom how the fact I wear pants is what will make 3rd world savages come to the US or will force me to take gender studies.
Youre being fuckin retarded, anon. Objective morality and being right wing have nothing to do with my pants.
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No.18182
>>18181
I wasn't talking about the pants and tradition in general. Abandoning gender roles and fundamental traditions among the sexes is a detrimental factor in becoming ravaged by technically inferior beings. First it starts with pants, then it ends with gender "reassignments", first it started with sodomites being quiet about their business, now their sodomite agenda is shoven every day into our faces.
Keep on insulting and purposefully misrepresenting of what I say, nothing feminine about you and your fornication.
I rest my case since you are beyond salvation.
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No.18183
>>18182
At no point did I say I was in favor of abandoning gender roles - I dont think its possible to entirely abandon them without causing severe issues due to the fact they are biologically ingrained. However, this doesnt mean that there isn't some 'give' in regards to how men and women can act that might, in some small ways 'defy traditional gender roles' without actually harming the unit or the family. I am very much a pro-family person, a pro masculinity-in-males person, and very much against things I see as greatly unhealthy to individuals in our society (illnesses such as transgenderism for example). I am not your enemy here. However, I am also not in favor of women remaining entirely traditional in all aspects because I feel a lot of traditional things about women were fucking shit. It is 'traditional' for women to be incapable of properly defending themselves - how is this a good thing? It is better that a woman know how to physically defend herself to the best of her ability. This would not make her a poor mother or poor wife in any sense, it is only helpful.
See, I believe that we should support what is good for people and be against what is bad for people. This doesnt actually always match with tradition.
You also falsely equate many things.
A mother can still be a good mother and wife if she also knows how to do electrical work or wears pants.
Some things are inherently a slippery slope - but the acceptance of X, which has no bearing or direct connection to Y, will not result in a slippery slope acceptance of Y. With sodomites, one acceptance naturally followed the other, since they are inherently tied. However, good motherly skills are not at all tied to her wearing pants, the slippery slope argument is a fallacy here.
You are the one making entirely false assumptions about my beliefs based off of very little information.
Sadly I too will rest my case here, since you are clearly beyond salvation.
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No.18297
>>18177
Dude you are flaccid.
If skirts give you the bees nees you should find a girl and ask her to wear one. If she doesn't love you enough to indulge you in your stupid fetish.
A. Shes probably not the type girl you want
B. She doesn't like you all that much and is probably unfun when it comes to relationships.
If your girl of 5years thinks you should work out would you?
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No.18313
I'm sex negative because I haven't had any in months and seething with jealousy, otherwise I'm sex positive.
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No.18326
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