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d455e6  No.145724

What’s the deal with this whole “gluten free” fad?

Are there any actual benefits or is it a marketing strategy?

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7d082e  No.145726

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>>145724

The only people who I ever hear about "muh gluten" are soyboys and fags with allergies.

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18aaa2  No.145728

>>145724

U just answered ur own question. Its a fad.

Some gluten free organic food tastes good but most of it is just bullshit. Plus gluten free means ur probably also allergic to milk which sux for u.

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1d2c90  No.145733

>>145726

Bressan, Paola, and Peter Kramer. Bread and other edible agents of mental disease. Frontiers in human neuroscience 10 (2016): 130.

https://doi.org/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00130

>We present the implications for the psychological sciences of the findings that, in all of us, bread (1) makes the gut more permeable and can thus encourage the migration of food particles to sites where they are not expected, prompting the immune system to attack both these particles and brain-relevant substances that resemble them, and (2) releases opioid-like compounds, capable of causing mental derangement if they make it to the brain. A grain-free diet, although difficult to maintain (especially for those that need it the most), could improve the mental health of many and be a complete cure for others.

>Unfortunately, gluten has proven to be toxic for a proportion of people that in the last few decades has been constantly rising (Rubio-Tapia et al., 2009). Indeed, the wheat varieties that contain the most detrimental type of gluten have become more common (van den Broeck et al., 2010). […] Yet gluten triggers some action as soon as it turns up in the gut—not only in a few sensitive people, but in all of us.

>A post-mortem study of 82 schizophrenia patients found rates of stomach, small intestine, and large intestine inflammation as impressive as respectively 50%, 88%, and 92% (Buscaino, 1953; cited in Buscaino, 1978). The association between gastrointestinal pathologies and psychiatric disorders had already been noticed at least 2,000 years ago and has been confirmed repeatedly (for a brief review see Severance et al., 2015).

>Most people with celiac disease do not know they have it. In a sample of over 5,000 Italian students, for example, the ratio of diagnosed to undiagnosed cases was 1 to 6 (Catassi et al., 1995). In the elderly, celiac disease often goes unrecognized as well, with a mean delay of 17 years from the onset of symptoms to diagnosis (Gasbarrini et al., 2001). Alarmingly, blood markers of the disease have quadrupled in the United States in the last 50 years (Rubio-Tapia et al., 2009) and doubled in Finland in the last 20 (Lohi et al., 2007).

>Some people do better on a gluten-free diet and worsen upon a gluten challenge (even under double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled conditions: Biesiekierski et al., 2011) although they do not meet the criteria of either wheat allergy or celiac disease. This non-celiac gluten sensitivity is diagnosed by exclusion, because there are currently no laboratory tests for it. The gut permeability of these people is normal, unlike that of celiacs—but gluten makes it soar just as much as that of celiacs (Hollon et al., 2015).

>In vitro, antibodies against gluten removed from human blood attack cerebellar proteins and components of the myelin sheath that insulates nerves (Vojdani et al., 2014). They also attack an enzyme involved in the production of GABA—our prime inhibitory neurotransmitter, whose dysregulation is implicated in both anxiety and depression.

>Changes in gut microbiota due to a sudden, massive exposure to wheat products have also been hypothesized to mediate the well-known relationship between immigrant status and schizophrenia (Severance et al., 2014). This might be, for example, the case of people moving to Europe from sub-Saharan Africa, where staple grains do not include wheat and are traditionally broken down via fermentation before being eaten.

>Not all individuals handle these substances the same way. For example, abnormally high levels of milk and/or wheat exorphins have been found in the urine (Hole et al., 1979) and blood (Drysdale et al., 1982) of schizophrenia patients and in the urine (e.g., Sokolov et al., 2014; but see Cass et al., 2008) of autistic children. When purified and injected in the brain of rats, these substances made the rats behave in strikingly odd ways—very restless at first and then inactive and hyperdefensive. Among other things, the rats paid no attention to a ringing bell, in suggestive similarity to the apparent deafness often observed in children with autism (Sun and Cade, 1999; Cade et al., 2000).

>The effects of food exorphins on behavior (for a comprehensive review, see Lister et al., 2015) and on the brain (Sun et al., 1999) are reversed by treating the rats with opioid antagonists. Naloxone has also been shown to temporarily erase psychotic symptoms, especially hallucinations, in schizophrenia patients (Emrich et al., 1977; Jørgensen and Cappelen, 1982). Naltrexone benefits some children with autism (Roy et al., 2015), arguably by blocking a brain opioid activity that might be abnormally high in these children (Sahley and Panksepp, 1987).

Coffee has opioid antagonist(s?) which work similarly to naloxone, btw.

>Evidence that a diet devoid of wheat (and possibly of dairy as well, given the similarity between gluten and casein) can cure some patients with mental illness has been available for nearly 50 years.

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267bce  No.145775

>>145733

This honestly, the gluten free stuff is a marketing fad, but modern wheat is very dangerous.

I've been cutting wheat off my diet, didn't erase it completely though, but its cut off my daily bread and other derivatives, you have no idea the changes this makes.

At the very least I'm feeling much better in the head with motivation and keeping up with my tasks. I also felt a drastic hunger reduction, anxiety and everything get more much smoother.

Already lost 6 kg since december more or less, I don't attribute it all to cutting off wheat but there is definitely something there.

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06dcd8  No.145778

>>145775

>you have no idea the changes this makes.

I actually do have some idea. I don't eat bread.

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f556cb  No.145790

>>145724

Try going gluten-free for a month. Then re-introduce. If you feel worse when you bring it back in, go gluten free. Otherwise live your life and ignore it.

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3d5cba  No.145791

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>>145724

Gluten is a way for plant seeds to prevent animals from eating them. They bind to your gut walls and cause leaky gut for example. The individuals who eat the most of these harmful substances are less likely to pass their genes forward and thus there are less of those who eat the plant again.

I don't really eat plant foods any more so I don't care if it's gluten, lectins, tannins, hormone disrupters or any other toxin since they don't exist in meat.

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aa926a  No.145816

If you have celiac's disease, it's very real. The rest of the people going "gluten free" are just fad dieters. Yeah, it's easy to lose weight when you can't eat hardly anything. Except now, following the cycle of all fad diets, there's plenty of food options that allow you to follow your fad diet and be fat. Same with "atkins" and others. When it begins, it basically means you can't eat anything. Then the producers come out with processed food that is "your diet friendly." Then you can stuff your face and the diet doesn't work anymore.

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f556cb  No.145817

>>145816

Accurate, except you've missed the portion of the population that isn't full-on celiac, but just gluten intolerant.

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956ea4  No.145820

>>145733

>82 dead crazies have gut problems

>Some people are sensitive to gluten (or have celiac disease) and should avoid eating it

>in vitro study

>Niggers can't handle the white man's food

>injecting shit into a rat's brain makes it act strange (shocking discovery)

>Evidence that a diet devoid of wheat (and possibly of dairy as well, given the similarity between gluten and casein) can cure some patients with mental illness has been available for nearly 50 years.

>no citation

>Article is from the Department of General Psychology

Nice study.

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35552a  No.145821

>>145791

Fruit usually doesn't have major anti-nutrients as fruit bearing plants often have symbiotic relationships with the animals that eat their fruit and subsequently spread seeds. All natural food have "hormone disruptors" as all plants and animals create hormones and these hormones "disrupt" the hormonal state of those who consume them but not necessarily in an unmanageable or injurious fashion. Toxins exist in both flesh and vegetables. You highlight some in plants but toxins exist in animals in ordinary agricultural contexts—namely the same toxins from the aforementioned plants (because the animals eat them) and seed oils, polyunsaturated fats, and inflammatory eicosanoids which are frequently highly disruptive to the hormonal state in an injurious fashion that is both stressful and estrogenic. The point is there is no escaping examination of food and its pros and cons on a case by case basis to determine if its drawbacks are practically manageable and acceptable.

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35552a  No.145822

>>145820

Are you asking for help researching that claim? I like the article because it provides citations for many claims including the opioid effects of wheat which slow down intestinal transit time and affect brain function. I like to use articles like this as a starting point for subsequent search queries. There's quite a few publications in wheat and gluten research, but personally, the chance of getting constipated and "opioid-brained" is enough to give me pause

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af6b45  No.145837

>>145822

Unless you have either a gluten sensitivity or celiac disease, you aren't going to suffer from eating grains. The studies involving injecting shit into rat brains are hardly relevant when you consider that the compounds in question are being digested and metabolized before even reaching the bloodstream. Your brain is not being directly exposed to these compounds when you consume wheat/dairy. That's why the blood-brain barrier is there. The other study involving the antibodies was done in vitro, and for the same reason it does not offer much insight into how exactly how gluten affects our bodies. Those same antibodies will not necessarily behave the same way inside a person.

Just because the article is offering many citations does not immediately lend credibility to every conclusion drawn in the article, nor does it mean that the pieces of information they are citing are true either. For example, a study of 82 people is a very small value for n, and I would hesitate to take the results of such a study as conclusive until they can be repeated on a larger scale. That's not to say that all the citations in the article are bad or misleading, of course. However, it is not worth the amount of time and effort I would have to spend digging through each of those articles and researching every enzyme, compound, and biochemical process that relates to how gluten breaks down in our bodies. Especially considering that I have never experienced any symptoms from eating gluten from any source. You're free to eat whatever you want, but I wouldn't put too much stock in the words of psychologists.

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1d2c90  No.145839

>>145837

>Unless you have either a gluten sensitivity or celiac disease, you aren't going to suffer from eating grains.

I would say constipation from bread is suffering.

>The studies involving injecting shit into rat brains are hardly relevant

>Just because the article is offering many citations does not immediately lend credibility to every conclusion drawn

Look, I just thought it was sort of okay introductory material considering I spent two seconds finding it. I wasn't presenting it as definitive or authoritative on these matters. Often I just want to allude to something I've been reading about but don't have time go find all the articles again to show everything I know and give everyone the same context as me so an article like that doesn't look so weird. I will at east say that perhaps if they injected it into the brains, maybe they thought they were replicating rare circumstances where that can happen to unlucky individuals.

>However, it is not worth the amount of time and effort I would have to spend digging through each of those articles

I often wouldn't recommend going through the references one by one unless it's a really good review. What I would hope is if something like this spurred interest, is that you would do what I most often do: free for all search queries on a search engine just to see what comes up, like this:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=gluten+opioid

Oh look I just found this thing:

Klee, Werner A., Christine Zioudrou, and Richard A. Streaty. Exorphins: peptides with opioid activity isolated from wheat gluten, and their possible role in the etiology of schizophrenia. Endorphins in mental health research. Palgrave Macmillan, London, 1979. 209-218.

https://doi.org/10.1007/978-1-349-04015-5_18

I wonder what the whole text says. I bet it's on sci-hub.

Hmm, another interesting search result:

Fanciulli, Giuseppe, et al. Intravenous administration of the food-derived opioid peptide gluten exorphin B5 stimulates prolactin secretion in rats. Pharmacological research 47.1 (2003): 53-58.

https://doi.org/10.1016/S1043-6618(02)00267-0

Now, granted this does say intravenous but what was that bit about permeable gut earlier? I guess, you know, if the gut is made permeable by wheat in some fashion, this could be a realistic situation. Increasing prolactin isn't generally a good thing. People attribute man boobs to all sorts of things. Prolactin can definitely cause it. Is wheat enough? *shrug*

More search results. (I haven't read them in detail):

Nazni, Peerkhan, Edward Wesely, and Veerappan Nishadevi. Impact of casein and gluten free dietary intervention on selected autistic children. Iranian Journal of Pediatrics 18.3 (2008): 244-250.

http://ijp.tums.ac.ir/index.php/ijp/article/view/782

Ghalichi, Faezeh, et al. Effect of gluten free diet on gastrointestinal and behavioral indices for children with autism spectrum disorders: a randomized clinical trial. World Journal of Pediatrics 12.4 (2016): 436-442.

https://doi.org/10.1007/s12519-016-0040-z

Why I am wary of the effect of wheat on my intestinal health:

Leccioli, Valentina, et al. A new proposal for the pathogenic mechanism of non-coeliac/non-allergic gluten/wheat sensitivity: piecing together the puzzle of recent scientific evidence. Nutrients 9.11 (2017): 1203.

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/9/11/1203

>Beyond a critical threshold of the latter, a chain reaction of events and vicious circles occurs, involving other protagonists such as microbial lipopolysaccharide (LPS), intestinal alkaline phosphatase (IAP) and wheat α-amylase trypsin inhibitors (ATIs).

(LPS = endotoxin)

O'Dwyer, Sarah T., et al. A single dose of endotoxin increases intestinal permeability in healthy humans.. Archives of Surgery 123.12 (1988): 1459-1464.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/593588

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3d5cba  No.145955

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>>145821

When talking about hormone disruptors, I meant these that are meant to replace the ones in the body.

Plants produce them naturally whereas the ones found in meat are not produced by the organism carrying them and the body is actively disposing them whenever it can.

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796251  No.146292

gluten is yet another indigestible plant matter.

we're really not meant to survive on plants.

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9d14bf  No.146293

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>>146292

>he actually fell for the 'gluten is bad for you' meme

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