7d649d No.145657
I have what is likely mild hyper lordosis, I treat it the recommend way - rolling, stretching hip flexors etc. I can do the thomas test easy but still my low back in chronically in pain, esp when I wake up. It gets better as the day goes on. If I do deadlifts it really fucks it up no matter how strict the form.
Any ideas on things to try?
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0d39dd No.145658
High dose riboflavin. Works like magic in some cases.
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67b648 No.145660
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c0fa28 No.145691
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35526a No.145694
>>145657
>I can do the thomas test easy but still my low back in chronically in pain, esp when I wake up. It gets better as the day goes on.
Something is wrong with your bed, mattress, and/or sleeping posture. Try sleeping on the floor and see if it helps. Just put a blanket under you, get a pillow, and put another blanket over you. You might want to get professional input since not all backpain stems from the same causes. Still, if you wake up every morning with chronic pain that goes away as the day goes on, you are definitely sleeping wrong.
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35526a No.145695
>>145694
For the record, I suspect the mattress. Bad mattress is the most likely culprit. There are adjustable beds though that can be really good for finding a comfortable sleeping posture, but you'll also need the right mattress to go with it.
I'd look into better sleeping conditions if I were you.
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2c9127 No.145759
OP here, I've been digging hard into anatomy books and nearly positive it is the psoas muscle. I think it seizes up and this is causing the pain as it wants to override weaker muscles like the extensors.
What is a 'good' sleep posture to relax the psoas? I try back sleeping, but my low back arches too much and it ends up hurting.
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13ad80 No.145760
>>145759
>>145759
>I try back sleeping
Try it again except this time with a foam pillow/no pillow
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2c9127 No.145761
>>145760
no pillow on head?
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13ad80 No.145763
>>145761
Try the foam pillow first
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5ee0d3 No.145888
>>145657
>Any ideas on things to try?
Physical therapy
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35526a No.145963
>>145759
An adjustable bed would probably help. You might want to go to one of those places where they sell a ton of beds and try 'em out. Even if you don't end up buying a bed, it can at least help you discover what sleeping posture works for you. That said it's not a bad idea to buy a good bed. Your sleeping condition is clearly already a health problem so it's well worth investing into solving that. Massaging would probably also help, although I'm not sure what exact exercises work. It does seem like you should be able to massage yourself once you learn the proper exercises.
Above all see a physiotherapist and get professional advice. Health insurance should cover it and failing that medicare covers it too (as long as it's deemed a chronic condition - condition had for 3 or more months - by your GP who has to sign off on this, which it sounds like it would be). Do NOT be an idiot avoiding the doctor. A physiotherapist should be able to help you resolve your problem very handily. Without a physiotherapist your odds of fucking it up worse or trying not-so-effective treatments are fairly high and chronic back pain isn't something you want to take chances on.
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d6b7c4 No.145981
>>145657
How long have you been suffering this problem?
Does it hurt more at certain time of the day?
Does it get better or worse when you rest?
Have you lost weight unwillingly?
Do you have any first degree family with any chronic degenerative illness?
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1ad356 No.145988
try sleeping on the floor. Then also try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLTBIaHU5iw
If it doesn't work save money and go to a doctor
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51a992 No.146199
>>145988
Was going to create a thread for this, thank you OP for beating me to it. I suffer the same problem and concur that its likely my psoas muscles. Injured my back on my last infantry course and physio recommended a variety of exercises/ solutions:
Strengthening the core with planks ensuring you have proper back and pelvic posture. It may be a lot harder once you find the proper form.
Your hamstrings may be tight as well, try to stretch and increase flexibility/range of motion in your legs.
Stay hydrated. I was a retard and didn't drink water for like 30 hours and it was a big if not the main contributor to my injury.
Quit smoking if you do already. Acrolein, a chemical in cigarettes can seriously sensitize nerves which transmit pain signals.
>>145759
These hip flexor exercises are great, a good modification would be to do the leg raises against a wall. Really helps maintain your form.
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a8ca82 No.146222
>>146199
>Quit smoking if you do already. Acrolein, a chemical in cigarettes can seriously sensitize nerves which transmit pain signals.
Wouldn't it be good to be more sensitive to pain? i mean i wouldn't want to not feel pain in my back, otherwise how do i know i hit snap city? i'd rather feel the pain and then take measures, you know take care of the problem not the symptoms.
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341e1d No.146225
>>146222
Recent research says theres little direct correlation between tissue damage and pain experienced in the body/back. Pain is experienced when nociceptors are triggered in the spinal cord. This pain is multicausal. Yes, you will feel pain when you’re injured, but the nociceptors can be sensitized to create the experience of pain with chemicals like Acrolein, things like stress,and other causes without correlating damage.
It’s a fallacy that the level of pain you feel, the more hurt you are. That was invented by Des Cartes.
The female surfer who got her arm bit off by a shark, didn’t feel any pain until she reached land and tried to grab her car keys with the missing arm, yet a British factory worker who stepped on a nail which made no contact with his foot showed all outward indicators of extreme pain (sweating, hyperventilation, stress, screaming) without any injury whatsoever.
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84e1cd No.146253
Strengthen your back and glutes. Also, try fitting your prosture if you’re slumping while sitting down.
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b4a415 No.146652
>>145657
Look up the Foundation DVD/Founder Exercises
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