/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

When faced with a cluttered desk or room or garage the correct question to ask yourself is *not* "What can I throw away?" but rather "Which of these items spark joy inside of me?" and keeping those things that do while getting rid of the rest.

< How do I determine if something 'sparks joy'?

Simple - hold it in your hands. Feel it. Experience it. Now what are you experiencing, inside? Nothing? Nostalgia? Painful memories? Aversion - is it difficult to look at or hold? How about… Joy? Does this shirt bring you joy when you put it on? If yes, then keep it. If no then put it in the discard pile.

< How do I discard things?

There are two steps to discarding something:

1. Thanking it

2. Donate/Give away/Trash

< Thanking it?

Often we experience mental blocks to getting rid of items due to a sense of obligation-duty or guilt or perceived value. Thanking an item will relieve you of this as it allows you to recognize the item as something 'external' of yourself and existing on its own.

< Donating to charity/giving away/trashing something

This must be done in a timely manner or you haven't made any progress. You might be unfamiliar with the charity donation process at first but like anything else you will get better with practice. The inertia of doing something for the first time is a skill that you will need to learn to overcome.

< I don't like throwing anything in the trash

The time to make that choice is when you are purchasing an item or accepting ownership. Now that it's in your possession it is your responsibility.

Don't like throwing away plastic trinkets? Stop buying plastic trinkets.

The initial thing to tackle is your clothing. Get all your shirts - ALL your shirts into a pile in front of you. That's right, you want to gather all your goddamn shirts and put them in a spot in front of you so that you can work your way through. Here's what we're going to do for EACH shirt.

1. Pick it up. Does it spark joy? If yes, put it into the keep pile. If you experience *anything* else then that shirt will go into the discard pile.

2. Learn to fold your shirt. (yes, some things are meant to hang - suit jackets, button downs, etc. Smooth it out and put it on a hangar.) Konmari folding (of anything) is a two step process:

a. Learn how to fold your item into a rectangle.

b. Fold the rectangle into a more compact/smaller rectangle. (math nerds will remember that all squares are rectangles but all rectangles are not squares). Do not sperg out and crush your items through Death By A Thousand Folds. Different items will fold differently. Sweaters need a lighter touch than cotton shirts, for instance. Let the item tell you how tightly it wants to be folded.

c. Store your items with similar belongings. T-shirts will go together, lightly sorted by color or category or both. Let the item tell you how it should be sorted.

>Jordan Peterson: mommydom edition

>>142721

>wants to be less materialistic

>makes decisions based on how an object makes him feel

I mean, it is better than nothing but isn't there something that puts you into a way of thinking that defeats the whole purpose?

Also, not sure if this is fitness related.

I took your advice OP. I took a big poo. I thought about how it made me feel. All that stinky protein and fiber, the cast off remnants of my caloric intake. How many macros and micros did my body absorb, how much was superfluous, the splash of water on my scrotum that means I'll have to shower or have shit on my balls, the exhausted nutrients, the slight sting from removing my squat plug. I took it all in, those complex thoughts and emotions.

I then thanked my poo before flushing. I thanked it again when a floater broke off and refused to sink. I thanked it a third time when I scrubbed the skid marks off bottom of the bowl. I think it's already making a difference in my life. I felt more comfortable, my step was lighter and the tension and unease I felt in the pit of my stomach had just seemed to have melted away.

Next up is books. This is one where I have to say I really didn't have any problems. I don't keep all that many to begin with.

In the video you can see them…

1. Collecting all the books together

2. Weeding them using the "Does this spark joy with me?" metric

3. Thanking the ones being disposed of.

Voila, a customer with a happier, smaller collection.

>>142730

>Also, not sure if this is fitness related.

The board was once "Fitness and Health", I promise.

>>142764

Perhaps this should be the self-improvement board with a focus on fitness: /fit/ - Fitness & Self-Improvement. Or we could just put these threads on >>>/si/ so it's less dead. Or just keep posting here as the userbase isn't large enough to splinter.

>>142772

Honestly we need all the traffic we can get.

>>142722

>>142729

( Hooktube: https:// hooktube.com/ D3SOeQUhbrY Wouldn't embed, I don't know why.)

Right, I'm back and this post is about folding your clothes (again).

(0:45) If you want to jump right into the folding demonstrations.

0:00 - 0:45 Chit chat about the differences between folding for retail and folding Konmari method. She's cheery.

0:45 - 3:10 Folding clothing demonstrations. Note the method is first into a rectangle, then into smaller rectangles.

3:10 - 3:20 She gives a succinct explanation of the rectangle-rectangle idea. (I know I emphasize this but it was an aha! moment for me.)

Overall she folds things pretty well and there's a whole bunch of well shot folding bits for the viewer.

One of the reasons that this works so well for me is that it's the clothing equivalent of a "trusted system". Follow it and your clothing and personal space will immediately improve.

Yeah, yeah - some of y'all are naturals at this but some of us are sloppier than we'd like to be. This system works for me - if you're struggling with your clothes or have 'too much stuff' you should look into this. Legit.

>>142855

>hooktube

use https://invidio.us/

Okay, we're back. Here's a little Q&A and then a quick desk demo. I'll timestamp points of interest:

0:21 How have others in your life reacted to your project?

1:36 How does tidying your desk differ from tidying your home?

1:51 Why is it important to categorize your things when you are tidying?

2:24 How do you say goodbye to something?

2:48 The desk tidying

Of note during 1:36 is the order: books, documents, misc. Marie uses the word "komono" to describe the desk and household flotsam jetsam, this one calls it 'misc'. That's fine for introductions but it'll confuse things a bit when you start to adopt the method.

Lots of people aren't earnest enough to pull off the folded hands approach to thanking things (2:24) so if that doesn't work for you it's fine to drop the motion or replace it with something else.

>>143247

I have clothes I want to get rid of but I don't just want to throw them out. I don't want to take ripped stuff into the resale store, and a lot of it isn't good for ripping up to make rags.

How do i dispose of clothes that have synthetic fabrics in them? I can't compost synthetics right?

There are also things like old birthday cards that I feel bad about pitching, especially ones from family. They just add clutter, but I feel bad tossing them.

>>143277

Aren't old clothes collected for the poor somewhere near you?

>There are also things like old birthday cards that I feel bad about pitching, especially ones from family. They just add clutter, but I feel bad tossing them.

Well, don't toss them out. These are your memories, keep them. As long as you know that the things that make them valuable exist independently of them, you are not doing anything wrong.

>>143277

> How do i dispose of clothes that have synthetic fabrics in them? I can't compost synthetics right?

Correct, they can't be composted.

The bad news is that you're going to have to throw them away.

I feel/felt the same conflict about throwing things away, due to it going into a landfill. The Konmari advice is this: If you own something, you are responsible for the full lifecycle: new, useful, and retirement. If you don't like sending plastic/synthetic things into the trash then you need to stop buying them in the first place.

Prevention happens before you buy something and not by hanging onto it forever.

>>143277

>There are also things like old birthday cards that I feel bad about pitching, especially ones from family. They just add clutter, but I feel bad tossing them.

If it helps - when I give cards, even when I write heartfelt messages, I don't expect them to hold onto them forever. It's the message, the card is just the platform.

< What if you take a picture of the card/message?

Embedded video:

26:22 - she recaps working through sentimental cards.

The Konmari approach to cards would be:

1. Gather all your cards in front of you.

2. Give the box/boxes a shake to 'wake them up'.

3. One by one work through the cards by holding them and experiencing them. What are you feeling?

4. Those that bring you joy go into a keep pile.

5. All the others go into the retirement pile. I thanked the card *and* the sender in this case, even though I was alone.

6. After you're finished, the Konmari way to deal with the 'keep' pile is to display them in some way. Hang them somewhere private or put them into a binder that you keep on a konmaried bookshelf. :)

Good luck my man!

>>143247

I think hoarding is just a side-effect of mental illness that's caused by something else, it isn't the cause. People who collect useless crap do it because they enjoy the act of acquiring new things, because buying shit = self worth for them. They only feel good about themselves for the brief moment when they purchase something and have to keep purchasing things to get that high because it goes away when they get home and open the box and realize whatever they bought is dumb and useless.

The act of buying things is not what causes their illness, their illness is not being able to feel good about themselves without buying things. It's part advertising brainwashing, and part depression/anxiety.

>>143312

Thanks, I'm going to start doing this.

I'm also trying to shop at bulk barn/ farmers markets more just because I was sick at the amount of packaging I was throwing out.

>Keep the items that spark joy in your life and discard the rest

So I have to get rid of everything I own because it's all meaningless crap and were all gonna die in this meaningless world? This sounds like a shit cleaning system tbh

>>142723

I like japanese women more than I like jews.

So, suicide then?