b8a103 No.140762 [Last50 Posts]
Okay guys I'm going to go vegan for a month just to experiment, any advice?
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49e78b No.140769
Is it going to involve plentiful legumes? I advise against that. There's a guy I know of who claims to get most of his protein from ~2 lbs of raw kale per day and the rest generally from sweet fruits such as dates and pineapples. No grains. No tree nuts. No legumes. He seems to be functioning well mentally but he claims to be skinny. (I've never seen him.) Tbh, I started eating 3-6 cups of raw kale per day to see what it's like without eating nearly as much as he does and to get more vitamins and minerals and I am seriously skeptical of this approach taken to an extreme. Even he binges on goat cheese occasionally. I think dairy + vegan is much more reasonable, but I'm not confident that or this guy's diet would easily maintain zinc homeostasis long term without tree nuts and tree nuts are simply not healthy in general.
For me, the solution is simple: beef and low fat seafood for zinc. I think if you drink low fat milk you can get decent protein intake while being mostly vegan. Chocolate also has an interesting amount of protein but is a bit too high in iron for overzealous consumption. If no dairy is allowed, you probably should eat 2 lbs of leafy greens for calcium. I wouldn't bother with any remotely vegan diet that didn't involve lots of fruit and melons. Legumes and bread are garbage. Rice is okay in moderation and potatoes and sweet potatoes are often practical sources of calories.
Did you want to lose body fat? You could also try eating a lower fat diet. I think some people who go vegan and lose weight accidentally do this and assume it's only avoidance of animal products that helped them.
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b8a103 No.140771
>>140769
Thanks for the advice
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49e78b No.140772
>>140771
Tell me what you really think
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b8a103 No.140773
>>140772
Okay, I mean I want to lose body fat, yes, fruits are good, but I'm really into bread, and except for fruits, is the only whole food that tastes good to me. I also want to know how to maintain motivation with my diet.
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49e78b No.140774
>>140773
I forgot to mention, don't forget about salt intake if you end up making all your meals yourself. I almost want to make an article on why bread is crappy but it's really more important that you have foods to replace it which you are excited about instead of hyperfocusing on what is wrong with the current diet.
Motivation comes from a background of good health and it is possible you won't be motivated to eat the things which will promote good health the fastest. However it takes a peculiar disposition to be disgusted by the prospect of eating sweet things, and as long as sweet things are on the menu, they may as well be fruits and melons which provide energy and sustain health. The spirit may be uplifted by sweet sustenance and from there the ground is fertile for motivation to sprout. Eating according to instinct instead of blind routine is even more likely to sustain and cultivate joyful motivation.
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b8a103 No.140775
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e1044b No.140776
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f33dfa No.140777
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a14c64 No.140779
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5e7619 No.140795
>>140762
don't do it, meat is the primary and most important form of food
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59168e No.140796
Yeah, don't.
I did it for a year, you feel limp and weak the entire time. Never feel full after a meal, your shit turns to hard little pebbles. Your fridge has more pills and supplements in it than actual food and your muscle mass falls off dramatically.
Oh, and your breath stinks.
Just go easy on the meat and eat a balanced diet like a normal, non retarded person.
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c5f243 No.140811
fruit, rice.
>>140796
no you didnt. I've been vegan since april and my boners are stronger than ever, I feel refreshed, shits are rock solid, very full after meals (especially cantaloupes which are very appetizing).
i only take 1 multivitamin a day which I did when not vegan anyways
nice reddit spacing btw
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6c37fd No.140812
Eat a bullet, their vegan. No animal products.
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742314 No.140817
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e1044b No.140819
>>140817
Can you still shit Mr. Anal Retentive?
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be610a No.140854
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a517e7 No.141065
>>140811
Nice lack of basic grammar. Did the veganism hurt your brain?
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253c17 No.142082
Vegan here, have been vegan for about a year now. Checked my blood test results recently and everything was normal and good. Don’t stress too much when going vegan but just make sure you know what you’re doing. I would highly reccomend oats, lentils and nutritional yeast as staples for a vegan diet. Also it wouldn’t hurt getting an interest in nutrition so you know where to get your specific vitamins and minerals from. Oh and another thing, do not leave out carbs.
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295d05 No.142085
>>142082
That pic almost gave me an aneurysm
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be2e89 No.142087
>>142082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0xbia1m4LA
Do you digest plant matter multiple times like a gorilla?
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253c17 No.142088
>>142087
No I don’t, why is this relevant? When did I say I was a gorilla? If you are implying humans can’t get enough protein from plants then you are wrong. I’m struggling to see what point you are trying to make here.
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be2e89 No.142089
>>142088
I was posting a video of a gorilla eating shit. They need to eat their own shit because even as herbivores, they still need to digest certain foods twice to extract all the nutrients from it.
How many cups of lentils will it take to get around 200g of protein? For putting on muscle. I bet it's a lot. Don't forget your carbs and multivitamins.
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1ce0d2 No.142090
Vegan here… eating whole wheat pasta everyday with tomato sauce. Feels good man. And salads. And tea. And coffee. And more pasta. Sometimes we have potatoes too, but I'm at college and the options are really limited. Literally every breakfast item is either bacon or eggs, which sucks. Aside from oatmeal, but who the fuck wanna eats bland communal oatmeal from a trough.
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c0f566 No.142099
>>142089
Yes I never disagreed with you, you have to eat a lot of lentils to reach 200g of protein, you have to eat a lot of anything to reach 200g of protein-even meat. Humans don’t require 200g of protein-not even bodybuillders. The only exception could be strongmen who need a lot more protein but not to say they need 200g. Also I didn’t make that picture, I believe the point the artist is trying to make is that you can get protein from plants.
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be2e89 No.142106
>>142099
I thought the rule of thumb was around 1g-1.5g protein for every pound for putting on muscle and increasing strength. The average American male is what, 190lbs? Even if they're maintaining just muscle while losing body fat through cardio (0.8g protein/lbs), that's still an intake of over 150g, which is a healthy amount for muscle repair from high activity. If they're sedentary or only lightly active, you could pull that down to 50g-60g, maybe.
I'm not a dietician or nutritionist though. Curious as to how you can get enough protein for lifting without having chunks of tofu and beans for every meal. I don't know, post a meal plan or something.
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b61821 No.142110
>>142106
Bodybuilders use protein powder
If youre a vegan bodybuilder, then use vegan protein powder
Or reconsider why you're bodybuilding. Because /fit/ told you to?
Just be healthy and lift normally. Be happy with 'only' a 225lb bench press. Be able to run a marathon.
A bag of green peas has 20g protein in it. A can of beans has like 35g of protein. Just get over 40-50g a day and you won't fuck it all up. Have more if you want.
Veganism is way better for your health. I still hit the gym everyday. Most of the "bodybuilders" are bloated and balding.
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9b0f69 No.142112
>>140795
No it isn't. Our prehistoric ancestors, who had to perform at their highest capacity, likely ate meat only once in a while. It's important, but not every day important. I'd still suggest you eat eggs and dairy commonly though.
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be2e89 No.142114
>>142110
I do strength training because my work is physical and I got sick of getting gassed every time I had to pull start my cunt of a chainsaw or even bigger cunt of a generator. Nearly had a heart attack after pushing a cart full of lumber up a hill. Also, my mobility/flexibility was shit and I was developing bad posture. I'd put off any kind of sport or athletic activity due to a combination of old injury, bad habits, poor fitness and worse motivation.
If I fall below 100g of protein a day for an extended amount of time, say a week, the first thing to noticeably fail is my grip strength. I no longer need to worry about my nails chipping and peeling off (that only happened a few times), cuts that get infected and take forever to heal, sore joints and torn muscles. All due to adding more protein to my diet. I aim for 250g, but usually get around 150g. Not even on a bulking program at the moment, but I plan on getting a head start before I start seeing a powerlifting coach. Because I need a hobby.
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bfe8e3 No.142126
>>140796
you ate like shit that's why.
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bfe8e3 No.142127
>>142090
save up money and buy ingredients for recipes you can look up online.
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29db0d No.142156
>>142099
>you have to eat a lot of anything to reach 200g of protein
How skinny manlet are you to look at 8-9 cups of Greek yogurt as "a lot", or per your statement 2 lbs of chicken tenderloin as "a lot"? Who here can't devour either in a single meal?
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7d79a2 No.142179
>>142114
>almost had a heart attack
>is worried about getting enough protein
sounds about right
>>142156
>stuffing your face with 10 cups of sugar and insulin like growth hormone 1 (a cancer hormone hormone)
sounds smart.
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be2e89 No.142181
>>142110
>40-50g of protein per day
Whoah, slow down there buddy. If you weigh over 25kg, you'll be exceeding your recommended daily minimum and probably start making gains. Then you'll need to eat more and the cycle will never end.
>>142179
>almost had a heart attack
The heart is a muscle. I was pushing about 200kg of lumber up a hill in a cart. Pushing it was easy. Pushing it over uneven ground fairly was easy. Pushing up an incline was relatively easy. Pushing it up 750m of uneven incline taxed my muscular endurance to it's limit. Particularly my core strength. Probably pushed my heart rate over 180bpm, not to mention the lactic acid build-up in my gut, shoulders and hamstrings. It was a deciding moment in me committing to doing some proper training.
Adding more protein to my diet also sorted out a lot of other complaints. I thought I was saving money easing cheap processed food supplemented by what I grew in the garden and the occasional bit of hunting and fishing. Sure I'd buy fresh food occasionally, but nowhere near as much as I should have. I was just thoughtlessly filling my stomach with noodles, tinned shit and the occasional proper meal. I even got my vegetarian girlfriend to start consuming dairy again and she's no longer borderline anemic. She'll probably be eating bacon again by the end of the year if I get my way.
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be2e89 No.142183
>>142181
I got her eat eggs last week by making pancakes with some sliced fruit and berries, then putting on a fake sad face.
>Oh no, it's got eggs in it.
>smug.jpg
>More for me I guess.
<they look good anon, can I have a taste?
<oh, okay, just one.
The plan is bacon, then fish, then steak. She'll be a normal human again by midway through next year. I wont even need to do any subtle meat-pilling like putting bacon grease in her salad dressing. Easier than telling her about the jews.
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bb28cc No.142186
>>140762
Why? Either be a vegan or don’t. No point experimenting. It’s not like homo where you can try it a few times but not be gay afterwards.
Once you go plant you never go back.
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8b77eb No.142203
>>142183
>>142181
fat aussie bogan
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c4c88d No.142214
>>142183
>Not telling your girlfriend "you already eat my meat, so what's the difference here?"
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be2e89 No.142216
>>142203
Yes, and? I have big bones and weird hormones. I'll add a thyroid problem if you're playing bingo. Doesn't stop me lifting. I'd like to see a vegan develop a power gut.
>>142214
I got her to eat dairy again by proving that cows enjoy being milked. Now she's justifying eggs because they weren't fertilized, therefore she's not killing anything. I was frying up some bacon the other day and she told me it smelled good. I'm breaking the conditioning. I don't need to force it. The meat pilling is almost complete.
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c4c88d No.142226
>>142216
>I got her to eat dairy again by proving that cows enjoy being milked.
Did you do it by milking her?
>Now she's justifying eggs because they weren't fertilized, therefore she's not killing anything.
Did you then fertilise her eggs, instead?
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be2e89 No.142229
>>142226
I set them up and you just knock them down. Having kids is part of the reason I want to get healthy though.
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352f15 No.142235
>>142229
Fuck yeah brah, kids are awesome. I plan on getting my wife pregnant this year. First I need to find a wife though.
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c4c88d No.142242
>>142229
>I set them up and you just knock them down.
But when will you knock her up?
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79bc1c No.142243
>>142216
but she is though? Stop feeling guilty about killing animals.
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be2e89 No.142251
>>142242
Talking about it. Don't want her getting pregnant while vegetarian, or the kid will grow up to be a furry or something.
>>142243
I don't feel guilty. She does. Or rather, she says she does, but doesn't really mean it.
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04b4d6 No.142255
>>140762
Don't.
The only healthy meat-free diet is lacto-vegetarian.
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96d4bf No.142259
>>142255
Source: dude trust me
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dca2d4 No.145039
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20d4c4 No.145046
>>142110
This is old but I gotta reply.
>Equating the difficulty of reaching a 225 lb bench with running a marathon.
Are you fucking retarded? I had a 205 lb bench in high school at 155 lbs, 5'10. A marathon is fucking 26 miles – do you know how far that is? Some random kid will start his fitness journey barely doing a push up at 120 lbs bw to a 225 lb bench and 150 lbs bw lean before you can even finish one those fucking things. You can go from 135 lb bench to 225 lb bench in a couple fucking months – 1 month even.
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81a99e No.145434
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>>140762
Don't stay vegan too long, it's a starvation 'diet'
The "healthy vegan" meme is a complete troll. These are retards in a self harm cult.
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81a99e No.145435
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>>142082
>One year vegan.
Veganism starves you over the long term. One year in this retard is still in the optimistic phase. Soon his teeth will start to have issues, then the getting skinnnier and skinner etc etc
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d20e42 No.145436
>>145434
>>145435
Based sv3rige posters
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b3ee98 No.145438
>>145434
Starvation diets decrease your metabolism, increasing your lifespan.
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fdc2ac No.145448
>>145438
Enjoy being skinny for the next 160 years. Enjoy eating 300 vegetables every day too just to get the same nutrition someone would get in one steak.
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0c4bc3 No.145450
>>145436
I don't like Sv3rige. He gives carnivory a bad name with his flat Earth bullshit. I'll take Frank Tufano and Primal Edge Health any day.
>>145438
Just fast once in a while, retard.
>>145448
Don't forget that most of that 160 years will be spent juicing, blending, and pooping. All that fiber constantly scraping away at the delicate walls of their intestines.
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81a99e No.145455
>>145438
If you think it's worth it fine. Most people wouldn't consider a few decades of (Auschwitz diet emaciation) to be worth it, if it extended life, which I doubt it does.
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ab0dc9 No.145458
>>140762
I went vegan for a few months a while back. I was tired all the time and went on antibiotics for the first time in my life.
I was lifting, wrestling and had a manual job.
Worst fucking diet I've ever tried.
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96db8d No.145487
>>142112
Highly false, the diet of our European ancestors varied with the seasons, in winter a more meat based diet was normal and during summer a more plant based diet was maintained (give or take a bit either way)
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28c5d1 No.145491
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877a37 No.145765
>>145450
Fag Tufano gives it a worse one. What sane person would take health advice from a shitpacker?
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cb6eed No.146090
>>140762
Dangers Of Vegan And Vegetarian Diets
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f469ae No.146103
>>142082
>he thinks he is a gorilla
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f469ae No.146104
>>145436
>based Sv3rige
>eats rotting meat
>drinks human blood
>believes the earth is flat
>refuses to support himself
>mooches off his subscribers and gets mad when people won’t support his lazy ass
>thinks saunas are “toxic gas chambers”
>thinks steroids magically build more muscle without protein
>acts like an all around asshole
Sv3rige is based because?
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39a7a9 No.146291
>>140762
make sure you supplement at least B12
>>140769
kale kills your thyroid…
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5c533e No.146577
>>142112
Stop spreading misinformation, leaf
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88852f No.146660
>>146104
>eats rotting meat
It's normally called 'high meat', if you like to use that search term to find out more. It's not simply road kill.
>believes the earth is flat
Most intelligent White people spend significant time researching, listening or otherwise sinking time in to conspiracies. You feel the same way towards certain conspiracies like flat earth like normals view /pol/acks for their holocaust denial or revisionism. One subject should not conflict the other in your mind, it's something you can get over when you realize that it's actually relatively deeper thinkers that can be the most wrong about reality. Consider Communists, the one who actually read the works behind the system, they can spend hundreds of hours of extrapolating theory and refining details only to have missed the main fault in their initial logic, in communists case it's extreme idealism and equality, btw.
>refuses to support himself
>mooches off his subscribers
>gets mad about not being paid
So he has a business model that doesn't pay beyond his travel, food and clothes? He offers advice to people who swear by him saving their lives, for free, doesn't get hardly anything in return and gets mad about being left out in a foreign country.
Anyway, e-celebing is gay, try and stick to the ideas next time before slandering someone.
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dca2d4 No.147664
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>Sv3rige is based because?
If he triggers crybabbies and vegans like you, I will continue to support him.
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0c4bc3 No.147677
>>146660
>So he has a business model that doesn't pay beyond his travel, food and clothes?
No, he's a literal beggar that travels and makes crybaby videos when no one gives him a place to live for free.
>>147664
If that's what you want to do, but he is a poser that does far more harm than good.
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7e8df0 No.147678
>>140779
This sounds really scary. Is there hope of recovery for these people?
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3d6a06 No.147679
>>142089
>How many cups of lentils will it take to get around 200g of protein?
~11.1 cups of prepared lentils.
Each cup being 198 grams, which is the customary US size for 1 cup.
This is the same as ~2.197 kg of prepared lentils, or 4.85 lb.
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3d6a06 No.147680
In comparison, you have to eat 714g of beef to reach 200g of protein.
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02aa38 No.147895
>>147679
>>147680
>11 cups
This seems reasonable for a single day.
>>146104
He also calls humans obligate carnivores when he doesn't know what that means and it bothers me every fucking time. If you HAVE to call humans carnivores then at least say facultative since we can digest both.
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81a99e No.147971
>>147677
>but he is a poser that does far more harm than good.
Sv3rige is fighting veganism. How can that be harm?
There are literally only a handful of people pointing out the lies of veganism.
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