/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

Nothing. Why would you want to replace it?

>>135937

>What are some good things to replace it with?

Why would you even need coffee in the first place.

>>135937

a good night sleep and good carbs.

doing some cardio early in the morning.

>>135958

>heart palpitations

>anxiety

>mood swings

i know that feel.

>drink rock star

>drink coffee

>still tired but feel even worse

caffeine is a short cut, and short cuts lead to long delays.

Soup tea.

Heat up water, pour in a bunch of seasonings and the oil of your choice (I put turmeric and such in mine, so coconut oil is good), and drink it.

>>135968

All your micronutrient needs in one cup. I hear mushrooms are a good choice, so get a mushroom supplement and pour it in.

>>135968

>turmeric and such

Any others you like? I like this soup tea idea.

>>135970

Red pepper, 21 seasonings blend, curry powder, ginger, coconut oil, cinnamon, cumin, chive, salt n pepper, onion n garlic powder…

For cool herbs, oregano, thyme, lavender, basil, bay leaves, tea…

Throw it all together. Hot n strong stuff with hot n strong stuff, cool n mild stuff with cool n mild.

Mushroom supplement that looks good: https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Mushroom-Mushrooms-Cordyceps-Shiitake/dp/B01BK871DE/ref=sr_1_2_sspa/146-7913539-1816143?ie=UTF8&qid=1522485219&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=sacred+7+mushrooms&psc=1

Yohimbe extract

for drinks, try kombucha. Far less energy surge than energy drinks and taste pretty good too.

>>135937

A lot of the same health benefits of normal coffee exist in decaf coffee.

source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/coffee-may-extend-your-lifebut-theres-a-but/?utm_source=FBPAGE&utm_medium=social&utm_term=20170725&utm_content=998146723&linkId=40148808

>>135961

>The wagecuck life requires fuel.

No shit, they basically have it at every workplace for free to make you work harder and longer.

lol you probably aren't getting enough carbs or have a vitamin deficiency such as thiamine. Panic attacks come from a lack of carbon dioxide production, and stopping the proper oxidative metabolism of glucose will promptly lower carbon dioxide. Vitamin B1 or thiamine along with always having enough carbs in the tank are the basics. When your blood glucose and stored glycogen run low, you will start to burn much more fatty acids which don't make as much carbon dioxide when burned. A metabolism heavily biased towards fat burning is high in anxiety and quickly devours muscle tissue to create glucose when none can be found.

This is why I have plenty of milk and sugar with my coffee either by table sugar or dates, and I tolerate a lot of coffee. I can drink strong coffee with a meal and then go straight to sleep because of the balanced caffeine intake strategies. Coffee is more nutritious than caffeine pills btw.

>>135937

Nicotine.

>>136023

>A metabolism heavily biased towards fat burning is high in anxiety and quickly devours muscle tissue to create glucose when none can be found.

Please make more shit up. Ketogenic diets are now being successfully used to treat anxiety. Blood ketones don't just calm seizures, they calm panic attacks as well. There is also some preliminary murine evidence that they can also boost confidence and decrease fear. Ketogenic diets have been shown to be muscle sparing. Protein used for gluconeogenesis is usually from diet. You only need to worry about muscle protein being used for gluconeogenesis on a full on fast lasting longer than a few days. Protein is also not the only substrate for gluconeogenesis. The glycerol backbone from the burnt fatty acids is also made into glucose.

>>141168

>they can also boost confidence and decrease fear.

You might even say they make you quite sure of yourself.

>He fell for the coffee meme.

Coffee should always be plan B, you drink it when you had shit-tier sleeping.

>>135983

Fuck Kombucha, way to much sugar. The healthier alternative is june tea.

>>135958

>heart palpitations

>anxiety

Does this even happen? I drink 4+ cans a day and i never get this.

Have a CREMA AL CAFFÈ aka coffee soft-serve. (requires refrigeration)

>>135958

Have evver you thought of going to a psychologist and psychiatrist, and actually fixing your issues causing them, instead of falling for more memes?

>>146360

Actually, coffee can cause those things, aswell as hallucinations if consumed in large quantities over a long period of time. Personally, I've had anxiety problems when taking over 4 cups of coffee a day and couldn't shit or fap without thinking I'd be caught any moment or that I'd wake from a dream and actually be doing these things in front of people from work. After stopping with coffee, those symptoms went away completely. Maybe it's caused by the lessened amount of blood circulation on the brain, or because of the continuous production of adrenaline, plus the shutdown of adenosine receptors, which would cause one to be rather nervous. In any case, caffeine could also cause cortisol levels to rise if taken excessively, although in proper amounts it would rise testosterone levels.

>>146361

>if taken excessively

That's the problem. Still, the point is, anxiety is caused mainly by your thoughts; there's an underlying problem there, causing them. Dropping caffeine will probably help, but won't solve the whole issue.

>>135937

Redpill me on the caffeine meme or what is the jazz about it.

>>146364

Yes, in my case I was always fearful of being caught but it was just something in the very back of my mind. Caffeine enhanced it to a level I was going crazy. One can't just expect problems that never mattered before excess caffeine to be solved just like that

>>146367

Keep in mind that you'll have some pretty bad headaches which lasted 2 days for me. Since the blood circulation on the brain is decreased, the fact that your blood vessels will expand once again will hurt. Also, you'll probably experience some other withdrawal symptoms if what you say is true. Adrenaline is addictive, highly addictive. Caffeine enhances its production, and since you're quitting cold turkey, that might be bad. But quitting coffee or caffeine pills is, in my opinion, easier than quitting a drug like cocaine or to stop fapping. I'd say stop drinking coffee, if that's your main source of it, and drink 1-2 cups of green tea a day (gotta love them antioxidants) and some dark chocolate if you want that powerful euphoria, that boost that makes you want to ravish your woman like never before, like the man that hides beneath the skin of a caffeine addict. You should drink black tea if you want more caffeine than in green tea.

>>146368

Caffeine is so good for you that it's almost like a vitamin.

>>146373

If you have caffeine in a fasted or low blood sugar state, that's when the adrenaline surge happens. Caffeine is a metabolic stimulant, so it causes fuel to be burned up more quickly. Coffee can actually help you fall asleep if you drink it with a decent meal, because it assists with the utilization and production of energy, and the energetic state is the one in which restful, restorative sleep can occur.

>>146377

It isn't that caffeine is a metabolic stimulant, it's that it's an adenosine depressant. I can understand what you mean, and it is kind of logical, but it doesn't make sense to me how blocking adenosine leads to sleeping well. Maybe after a heavy meal it would make sense, since caffeine would stimulate epinephrine and norepinephrine production in the cardiovascular system, but in these lines it would help with the digestion and not lead to restful sleep, it would lead to rather tiring and active sleeping with a lot of neural stimuli. But I don't understand a lot about sleep states, so I can't really say.

>>146379

>it doesn't make sense to me how blocking adenosine leads to sleeping well.

It doesn't need to make sense, because the perspective of

>caffeine is an adenosine receptor antagonist.

>adenosine helps sleep

>therefore caffeine only promotes wakefulness

is reductionist and doesn't describe everything that happens as a result of caffeine even if it seems to be the case or the popular narrative is that the primary mode of action with caffeine is by interacting with lock and key receptors that have simplistic, direct, open door responses tied to singular actions. Few if any substances warrant uncritical acceptance as behaving in this way. It should be unsurprising if it is found that many actions of biologically active substances are found to be context dependent, especially depending on the energetic state of the cells they interact with.

While I say coffee can promote sleep, this isn't consistent generally, or it's only consistent in a specific context. In my context, it is not unusual at all to feel prepared for a restful sleep—different from hibernation or hibernation-like states—after coffee with a meal. I wouldn't say it happens at unusual times for sleeping, such as breakfast, but I am so bold as to have coffee with the final meal before bed.

>>146382

Hm… I understand that you're talking about your own experience, but some self reported studies claim that caffeine increases alertness in the morning when taken at night, but it also decreases quality of sleep. So you might be experiencing the alertness and attributing it to the caffeine intake. If you also experience some kind of pleasure, it's because of caffeine ability to allow serotonin and dopamine production. Having that in mind, there's even more reason to not consume excess caffeine, since those aren't test friendly. Caffeine for an increase in testosterone has to be taken in a very controlled manner, also because of the possible cortisol levels increase.