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Coming up with an infallible rating system inconnu 02/19/17 (Sun) 11:55:50 No.9014

So I'm a really fucking bored autist with literally nothing better to do. Pic related shows how an older version of the rating system ranked a portion of the 200 or so I ran through it.

Currently, the system I have in place works on a 400 point scale that I then turn into a 0 - 100% overall rating:

>Viewer Score (IMDb - mostly unbiased)

>Critic Score (RT - slight bias)

>Return on Investment (The Numbers/Box Office Mojo - occasional bias with some films needing to resort to a default figure if no information can be found)

>Mistakes (IMDb's Goofs section - occasionally biased against more popular films but works well against others such as Superman IV or the earlier Fas'n'Fury installments)

But before I go into it full time for about an hour each day, I need to know if there's anything else I should consider adding. I contemplated separating Ebert's scores from the rest of the critics but that would have been too time consuming and he doesn't review things on a 100 or even 10 point scale, so it would be locked at certain values. I also considered the J-Dar, but then realized it had shut down with the lights on but no-one in, not to mention the severe bias it would have and the incorrect information it sometimes possesses.

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inconnu 02/19/17 (Sun) 17:32:37 No.9023

I am not sure if ratings matter very much on this board- you cannot judge to what extent you'll enjoy a film based on a number, just its popular appeal,IMO. A good ratings system, to my mind, would perhaps consider production quality, intent and interesting-ness.

For example, look at a film like The Keep. Is it a "good" film? All in all, I'd say it's a mangled mess, so not really. Is it interesting beyond that? I'd say certainly, and definitely worth a watch. It has intention,themes and cinematography worth checking out.

So as far as ratings go, it would be lovely to have one that has say, one general rating and one rating for whether it is interesting in other ways. Whether this is a subjective understanding, i'm not sure. Any takers?

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inconnu 02/19/17 (Sun) 19:32:38 No.9024

As an overall "should i watch it" popular Hollybuff rating i think it's pretty decent, but i don't think it's a good way to find a "good" movie

IMDb is highly biased in newer movies, but i agree in older ones it goes OK

RT is very swinging, their system refers mostly to a yes or no due to anything being 90+ or -50

Moneymaking prowness is a bizarre stat, plenty of not very good flicks have made absurd amounts of money, while a bunch of good ones have been box office bombs or received no mainstream aperture

Then you have old boy Ebert, the mood swinging man, his rating system depended on his breakfast quality and ended up with a similar RT answer, it's not about good or bad, it's about wasting your 10 bucks ticket or not

And all of this might present a controversial decision, not in a thousand years will El Mariachi be better than The Godfather, in 10 bucks or quality perspectives, same with Fistful of Dollars slapping Das Boot

For a local rating, or a filmeater one, my idea would be a good plot synopsis, due to our opinion varying highly on our personal tastes regarding plot, and a small 7 star rating, with 4 being average, 1-3 varying degrees of not good and 5-7 varying degrees of good. A movie might be a 2 but its story, actors and director/writer might persuade us to check it if we are fanatics of 2 or 3 of these factors. Same with a 6, the story might turn us off along with its director, no execution might save it from a personal distaste in some cases

Just an opinion thou

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inconnu 02/20/17 (Mon) 07:15:14 No.9029

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One of the best ranking (not rating) systems I've seen is the "Most Favorited" on ICM. It's calculated without giving an edge to the most popular films...

https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icheckmovies+-+most+favorite/

> The most favorite movies on the iCheckMovies.com website, based on the movies' favorites/checks ratio. By looking at the ratio, unknown gems don't necessarily get overpowered by more well-known movies

The most favorites movies are calculated by picking the movies with the highest favorite/checked count ratio. The exact formula used to determine the ratio of a movie is as follows:

ratio(M) = F(M) ÷ (C(M) + 50)

Where:

    M: A movie
    F(M): Number of times movie M has been favorited
    C(M): Number of times movie M has been checked

I don't know how you'd make adjustments for the data on imdb or RT, but it might be possible to extract more meaningful information from those sites.

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