/film/ -Let's get philosophical for a moment, /film/. Over the past several years, I've been getting deeper and deeper into film, and have watched countless movies from increasingly obscure countries and directors, which veer further and further away from accessib

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inconnu 12/28/14 (Sun) 00:06:38 No.2750

Let's get philosophical for a moment, /film/. Over the past several years, I've been getting deeper and deeper into film, and have watched countless movies from increasingly obscure countries and directors, which veer further and further away from accessibility and closer to art. I've found that the effect of viewing so many films which, assuming you buy at least a little bit into the auteur theory, are personal expressions of the feelings of the directors and writers who created them, is my increasing realization of the subjectivity of human experience.

Essentially, being exposed to all of these differing subjective visions of these artists has stripped away my preconceptions of ideology and caused me to question the forces which govern my own life and existence. I haven't really done any hallucinogens, but I've been around people who have, and I feel like exposure to art has the same dissociating effects that drugs can, in that art makes you realize your own insignificance, and also connection to the greater whole of humanity. I'm not trying to say that I'm some sort of enlightened being just because I have watched a bunch of obscure movies, but I do feel like watching so many personal and artistic films has caused a change in myself and my perception of the world. Sorry for the rant, but if this makes any sense, does anyone else feel the same? I can also clarify what I mean in more detail if I have to, I think what I'm saying makes sense but it's kind of hard to put into words succinctly.

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inconnu 12/28/14 (Sun) 03:15:20 No.2751

I don't have much to add but I agree. Same happened to me in a way.
I take it your choosing of Tarkovsky as the OP pic means you've read his quotes on cinema, art and spirituality. If not, please do so. It might be exactly what you need to read right now.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Andrei_Tarkovsky

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inconnu 12/28/14 (Sun) 03:48:31 No.2752

Just stepping in to say all film is art, be it Stalker or Persona, or transformers and point break

Worthwhile art is a different, more subjective concept entirely

Carry on

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inconnu 12/28/14 (Sun) 04:20:28 No.2753

>>2751
Yeah, Tarkovsky's films were some of the first I saw of a spiritual/philosophical nature that had a big effect on me, and the excerpts I've read of Sculpting in Time also informed a lot of my thinking on art and stuff for a while.

>>2752
Yeah I wouldn't disagree, but for the most part, commercial films like Transformers have had a different effect on me than "art house" films by Bergman or Tarr or something. They both fall under the category of art, but their aims and effects are different, and it's the art house films which have changed the way I think about things.

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inconnu 08/23/17 (Wed) 05:59:37 No.10461

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>>2750

>replying to a three year old post

>only on /film/

While I understand, I respectfully disagree, sort of; as I have had a different experience with the viewing of films.

I feel as though many personal films offer a far more subjective view of reality than a more objective, even collective view. For example, many foreign films require a certain premeditated knowledge of the culture and history of the country. Many deal with issues of the time and I would be lying if I said that I can relate to these themes, ideas, and concepts.

You mention hallucinogens. Many of these drugs offer a more universal perspective of the world. They won't allow you to understand (depending on what it is) themes in an obscure Polish film (although they possibly could for the individual) but instead will give you a more universalist (fuck I hate that word) perspective on things.

I don't know, I'm talking out of my ass here.

And with that said films like The Hourglass Sanatorium, Golem, etc. do indeed support your statements. These are films that absolutely present a narrative that covers ideas and such that are not exclusively native to the place where they come from.

>>2753

Yes, movies like Transformers are usually made for profit, not necessarily as art.

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