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 No.14315

I need some more hyper violent martial arts movies.

I’m on a kick antipating John Wick 3. Rewatched The Raids, Man of Tai Chi and I finally got around to watching Marantau and Ong Bak. Anything you guys could recommend?

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 No.14317

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John Wick 3 looks like the best one.

If it and Raid counts, watch this. Don't check any trailers, reviews, go in blind knowing only it has got Iko Uwais.

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 No.14318

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"Hyper violent" ?

The Story of Ricky !

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 No.14319

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You can try The Street Fighter trilogy

>When released in the US. The Street Fighter was the first film ever to receive an X rating by Motion Picture Association of America for violence rather than sex or language.

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 No.14321

Why are americans so obssessed with this cringe shit? It's not even fun.

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 No.14322

>>14315

>hyper violent martial arts movies

>John Wick 3

Does not compute.

Also depends on how much hyper violence and actual martial arts do you want combined.

If anything i would recommend the usual suspects like most Five Venom movies, Pinkaew's The Protector if you haven't seen it, also The Warlords now that i think of it, not much hand-to-hand fighting but it does have martial aspects coupled with asiatic ruthlessness.

>>14321

It does possess some kinetic aspects very appealing to the eye and testosterone mind IF done right and with prepared artists. The problem is that usually you have to endure long breaks of dread due to bad dramatic performances and bad screenplay.

It's a very juvenile genre that could use much more tinkering in the script department, because the genre has done impressive visuals at times.

And by "doing it right" and "at times" i meant rarely and half of the time by accident.

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 No.14326

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>>14317

Watched it last night. A tad disappointing overall, felt less kinnetic than Raid, but damn is it worth the slow bits to see Iko Uwais and Joe Taslim fight. Would watch again.

>>14321

Not a fan of choreography I take it?

>>14322

Are you saying John Wick isn’t violent or John Wick doesn’t have martial arts in it? I’d disagree on both accounts. But I’d agree hyper violent is probably not the right term. Like Tokyo Gore Police or something. I just mean way more violent than we usually get in theatrical releases. Exit wounds my guy.

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 No.14333

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>>14326

>Are you saying John Wick isn’t violent or John Wick doesn’t have martial arts in it?

Both, i may be wrong but i'll explain:

While the results are the same as other martial films, as in a lot of dead folk, the process is different... the hyper violence is actually very clean and differs from even basic Chuck Norris movies.

Wick does possess a very advanced technique in a martial aspect, close-quarters combat, Reeves is a horrible drama actor but he did a splendid job on firearm choreography, but his actions denote a lack of martial strategy (as he goes full-frontal and naked in most situations) and life discipline (point of the movies is that he goes berserk). You see "martial art" is just a fancy name for defensive doctrine, which means a combat system, strategy operations or route to take (infiltrate-attack-retreat, or deceive-attack-deceive) and life philosophy. Wick performs sublimely at the first, disappears or fails at the second and half-asses the third.

Now i said it wasn't hyperviolent, have you seen Hot Shots 2? pretty good for night surfing, as has the same dead men as Wick, but we don't call it hyperviolent until we see AIDSman carrying a Mr. Bean that talks. It isn't because of the precision John uses, part of why the movies are a joy to watch are the photo (that ovendodger cinematographer is pretty good) and choreography, but that's it, the gun dancing makes every victim a flash event in the screen, dozens of them, but that hold much lesser importance than a Shaolin student getting slapped in 3 seconds as these guys take 1.8 seconds (i counted).

And the script sucks and same with the character building because, unlike Five Venom movies where the characters are absurd masters but die all the time, Wick is a machine and there's very rarely a sense of tension, we are expecting him to mow down anyone at any time, we just want to see the resolution, making the above-average spectator wait for an hour (or more) to find the ending. There's no continuous use of impaled people mirrors count? no arm chopping that appears for more than 5 seconds, no cerebrospinal juice splashing after massive hits, no spine snapping due to a well-performed judo thrown, no tibias broken in half in all its shining glory, no decapitation from mouth, no squashing, just precise shots to the head and upper torso with random exit wounds, the same that appear in ALL movies with guns like you said get theatrical releases, i don't know why you said there isn't, Baby Driver is mainstream as it gets and there was some darkie getting impaled by a truck bumper in it, also tons of cops with exit wounds.

But i will back down a bit, John Wick IS a martial arts film because it does depict the 3 factors even the bonus asian one as Reeves is a hapa but it's simply not one that portrays them well, or at least traditionally well, humanity is lost in its high contrast results and at times characters that become cartoons instead of cartoons that become characters. Or maybe i'm spoiled/jaded with playing Hitman games as a kid and saw Hard Boiled multiple times, now that's a good example of hyperviolence in a movie with guns, going full-american cop on somebody and shooting them until they stop moving on the ground, also mangling workers with shotguns and bikes.

I recommend Hard Boiled too, it becomes very campy at times due to sentimental asian soap opera acting but the action sequences are top, it drags too much at the end but the Teahouse scene is a stamp of action cinema. That's a fun experiment, find the 3 factors in movies you said, surprisingly they are still there, but much less obvious than say, Shaw Brothers movies or Chuck Norris. I'm serious, Norris' The Hitman showcases very explicitly hyperviolence, hard-to-hand combat and precise shooting, tactic resolution and life philosophy, it just does it in a disjointed way that makes it sloppy, plus the acting and directing is Cannon Group-tier. John Wick done without budget or camera, but certainly with a better lead man, even if he helps a bike thief.

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 No.14336

>>14333 checked

>Wick performs sublimely at the first, disappears or fails at the second and half-asses the third.

I thought John Wick 3 hasn't even come out yet?

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 No.14337

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>>14321

>Why are americans so obssessed with this cringe shit?

I'm the only American who posted ITT and I know very little about them. Merely trying to contribute.

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 No.14339

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>>14326

> A tad disappointing overall, felt less kinnetic than Raid

Figured with those films listed in OP you would've liked it more, damn. I was the opposite, I loved it, was in a stupid giggly trance when I watched it. The fights were gorgeous. Could've used more Iko and thats about it. Can't wait to see "Parabellum" aka JW3.

You might also want to put this in your watchlist

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6643972/

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 No.14342

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>>14339

>Devereaux

Ah, Jai or the director giving a tribute to Van Damme? Sounds fun, obviously along with having the top stuntstars around, but i don't trust the director a lot after seeing The Sentinel, but that's without seeing Accident Man.

>>14336

I meant the first one, haven't bothered with the second but i found the some still shots great.

I bet there's a couple of other great stuff around but i'm not as versed as i would like in this field, hope some others can throw you some more suggestions. If you want historical or essential data, >>14318 is an obligatory view, it possesses some of the most infamous executions, it's the main inspiration for one of the most famous hyperviolent products around and it has Yukari Oshima in it.

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 No.14344

>>14342

I liked Accident Man, but "Debt Collector" is the real good film of JVJ. It's not really what OP is looking for, but I recommend it.

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 No.14350

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>>14317

Thanks for the recommendation, I think the plot and characters were a bit nonsense at times but the fight scenes more than made up for it.

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