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 No.11873

(I'm going to post this on /lit/ too because it's equally applicable there)

When someone creates a great work of art, how much of it is through rational thought processes, and how much of it is simply due to instinct; emotion?

I should begin by saying that I am, or rather was, firmly of the belief that it is an unconscious (I shan't go as far as to say spiritual) force that drives successful works. However, of the people that I have discussed this with, the majority seem to believe the opposite—that it is, at least in part, a methodical process. Not to say that it is in any way clinical or formulaic, but that the artist is fully aware of what they are doing and why.

Having read more analyses of famous authors and directors I think I understand why this view is common; if it is possible to dissect a work of art from merely having read/seen it, it isn't difficult to imagine that the person who actually made the damn thing knew exactly what they were doing. However, I still cannot shake the feeling that inspection of this kind simply describes why a piece works, and not necessarily the thought process of the creator.

Are there any authors/directors/whatever who have talked about this? The closest I have come to is Tarkovsky's comments on symbolism, but even that isn't really what I'm talking about. (funnily enough I love Tarkovsky's films. If I wanted to be a big homo I'd say they speak to me)

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 No.11874

>Are there any authors/directors/whatever who have talked about this?

The first example I thought of was David Lynch, who talks about his creative process as "Catching the Big Fish". The "big fish" are ideas. He uses mediation to open his imagination and fish in deeper water. That may not work for everyone. But elements of Lynch's stories seem to come from a place of instinct rather than logic, as they're often based in irrational dream logic.

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 No.11880

Sorry for the idiocy but I'm not getting the turk image.

I believe that the best works are usually unconscious, they do convey a message but it isn't necessarily the artist's main intention. I kind of am on your former page in that I believe that those images and such come from a different place, hence the word "spiritual." I just watched a great film, La Note Bleue, that actually covers this. You may want to check it out. I own the blu ray but it should be easy to find (rutracker). Thanks for the thread, we should see some interesting discussion.

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 No.11894

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>>11873

I have an example for you OP. Tell me what you think. Here is Apichatpong Weerasethakul talking about how he dislikes being asked about the meaning of his films...

Starts around 48s:

>Because I don't know, sometimes I don't know what I want to say. I mean, "What is your breathing for?" It's too big [of] a question.

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 No.11907

>>11894

where can I watch the whole thing?

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 No.11960

>>11894

that tune from Mekong Hotel though

i would love to see the whole doc, it's a shame they release it exclusively on that shitty site

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 No.11961

Yeah no one has figured out how to rip videos from Filmstruck. Screen capture is the only method right now. I think they have a lot of interesting exclusive videos on there. I would subscribe if I had more time to watch. I'm too busy right now.

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