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Was she the original doomer?
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▶ No.9580 >>9584 >>9650 >>11272 >>19169
>2D thot
>not the esoteric and stylish fred durst
durst is the forefather of doomerism
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▶ No.9584
>>9580
>it's russian roulette, when you're placin' the bet
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▶ No.9587 >>9650 >>9653
>>9579 (OP)
I think she was more like archetype for edgy millenial arthoes. Zoomer thots rediscovered daria but they can't get it anymore. If you admit that arthoes are doomer then maybe daria is as well. (jane was better btw)
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▶ No.9610 >>9650
>>9579 (OP)
who the fuck is she
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▶ No.9650 >>9662 >>9678
>>9579 (OP)
no daria was a jewish feminist criticizing White society.
>>9580
durst is much more enlightened than that. he recognized at a young age that existence is a nigger and then he pimped it by creating a whole new genre of music so he could ride the red carpet through life on his terms. durst is a seriously underrated guru of the modern era. frankly im jealous.
>>9587
did she make art tho? i dont remember that. i see her as mentioned above. there were chicks that copied her personality though.
>>9610
an MTV cartoon character that came from beavis and butthead but got her own show
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▶ No.9653 >>9655 >>9668 >>9678
>>9587
Didn't the show make a point that she was just as bad as the people she criticized? If so that flew over the roasties who thought "omg she just like me"
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▶ No.9655 >>18846
>>9653
>this
like any other character in beavis and butthead she was created to mock a common archetype
i never saw the spin off series however so i can't speak for that.
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▶ No.9662
>>9650
>Yeah, this time I'ma let it all come out
>This time I'ma stand up and shout
>I'ma do things my way
>It's my way, my way or the highway
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▶ No.9664
Seriously though, (((Daria Morgendorffer))) and Fred Durst are totemic representations of the two sides in the upcoming civil war. Daria represents the SWPL-bred status-obsessed tumblrina, while Fred Durst represents the angry wignat proles. All hail Fred.
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▶ No.9668
>>9653
Yeah pretty much. Her arc was to be forcibly confronted with that fact and then consciously choosing to change nothing, remaining a shallow and bitter critic of the world around her who made no effort whatsoever to better it or herself. A lonely cat lady with no cats.
so yeah p doomer i guess but at least some of us try to consume our resentment and burn it as fuel, or like the application of time and pressure to carbon, make something of a diamond from the filth that inhabits us
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▶ No.9678
>>9650
>did she make art tho? i dont remember that. i see her as mentioned above. there were chicks that copied her personality though.
Not all art hoes make art. Jane was the painter though.
>>9653
Yes, there were moments of "self-reflection" and confrontation. But it was a show so as far as I remember, there was always some "resolution" to these situations.
>If so that flew over the roasties who thought "omg she just like me"
The problem I have with whole Daria thing is that, forgive me for saying that, but I think it's viewed mostly as rick and morty for edgy teen girls. Do you know what I mean? Even today bitches pretend to have 999IQ just because they know that show and have Cobain's poster above bed. Makes me sick.
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▶ No.9694 >>9696
>>9579 (OP)
Daria wasn't a doomer, she was a cynic.The cynic looks out into the world and sees a pretentious contrast of what they imagine themselves to be, the doomer sees their inverted reflection.
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▶ No.9696
Decided to rewatch it again because of this thread, and I gotta say, Daria is legitimally dead inside and gets off on fucking with people with mind games, only smilling when she manages to do so. She isn't obsessed with her self image or feeling like a special snowflake like her friend, that is indeed an arthoe. Daria goes out of her way and pretend to be something she isn't to get away from a problem or fucking with people. She is more like a cynic envision of another cynic, than an actual doomer.
>>9694
This, pretty much.
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▶ No.9700 >>9703
lolololol
in Japanese "darui" means dull
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▶ No.9703
>>9700
>daria is product of cynical Gen-X weebs
finally I truly see
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▶ No.9705
Wasn't Daria a normalfag roastie before her self-esteem took a dive thanks to hanging out with Beavis and Butthead? I could've sworn they're the reason she became cynical.
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▶ No.9715
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>be A-grade student with hopeful future
>meet these two niggers
gee I wonder what could go wrong
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▶ No.11128 >>11131 >>18846
Shes cynical and dry in a way that was cool in the late 90s, and she mocks the soulless NPCs around her in a way we'd love to, but she's still playing the same game as them. Plus Daria is too well-adjusted and self-assured to be a doomer.
>consistently gets good grades, implying she lives a structured life
>applies to and gets into a good college, implying hope for the future
>maintains friendships and relationships, ending them on her own terms
>implied that she actually cares deeply for those around her despite her steely demeanor
She's cool, but I think the only thing separating Daria from those around her is her strong principles, rather than being hopelessly blackpilled.
I'd say the real doomer in the show is based DeMartino
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▶ No.11131 >>18846
>>11128
DeMartino is just forever angry, he doesn't have a doomed vision of the world, he is just a one sided character for comic relief, the "eternally pissed chemistry teacher", just like the "mysandric recently divorced female teacher" one. The only teacher wich had more use, and therefore more depth in the series, is that weak soyboy that teaches literature.
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▶ No.11272
>>9580
I like Limp Dick for a year and then got into more extreme stuff but Fred is really blackpilled from the interviews I've seen.
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▶ No.11273 >>13051 >>18823
>>11138
I actually hated Daria. in fact I'd go as far as saying Beavis & Butthead were more doomer.
>constant failures
>living on the edge and when not, NEETing on the couch
>barely pay rent
>no future
>can't get laid
>cynical about everything
>spastics
yeah it checks out.
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▶ No.13051
>>11273
They're too stupid to grasp the concept of doomer.
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▶ No.13078 >>13084 >>19170
She's honestly more of the alpha build for SJWs. The 90s were an angry time, people knew something was wrong but many not sure what… you had the Unabomber, the Oklahoma City Bomber, Columbine massacre, etc. You even had Ross Perot, a third party candidate almost win for the first time in US history. But a more passive-aggressive person existed, like Daria they talked about injuns and niggers and other stuff, they were disheartened because nobody was listening then.
Imagine nowadays characters like Upchuck and Kevin would be arrested and expelled for rape-thoughts, her sister Quinn would be constantly signal virtuing and her little group would be about "empowering women and people of color", and the Daria of this world will be full of glee every moment she turns on the news or gets on social media. That isn't a fucking doomer.
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▶ No.13084
>>13078
Imagine now we know precisely well why are we angry but we pretend to be shocked and having solidarity if someone gets shot. Instead we argue about words because some fucko heard at university that you should be positive and loving to every human in the world, and that is even more funny, that you have to have respect to every living person and be inclusive enough. Flames and plague are not enough for this brainwashed population which grew up watching these genx shows which were opposite of that.
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▶ No.13085 >>18823
>>9579 (OP)
Nah, Daria got good grades and has a future ahead of her she's weird and hates people in an angry teenager way she will most likely grow out of but she's too successful to be a doomer
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▶ No.13152
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She was a 1990s archetype, the cynical third-position alternative girl who's group was not being part of any group unbeknownst to them and loathed everything around them in a sarcastic manner which has led many other "alternative" whores into relating with her although Daria isn't (as) narcissistic and braindead due to sheerly being born 20 years earlier and not constantly being fed junk info on Web 2.0. Sometimes the show is funny but its definitely a product of its time.
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▶ No.13160 >>13163
I think Haller is the classic doomer, although im sure you could find older examples, depending on how strict your definition. (pic related is mandatory reading) The whole 20s lost generation was basically the first doomers, especially with cigarettes becoming popular because of the war.
But if were talking 90s doomers, I think Fight Club is the top aesthetic. Very interesting time, a sort of soft post Reagan social upheaval. I really wonder what would of happened if not for 9/11 making everyone patriotic again.
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▶ No.13163 >>13179
>>13160
>Faito Kurabo
I thought Fight Club was just a phenomenon of the new millenium switch.
There were other movies with similar themes coming out around the same time:
>American Beauty featuring Kevin "sexual assaulter" Spacey
>Magnolia
THose movies all had a theme of midlife crisis or meaninglessness of modern life.
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▶ No.13178
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▶ No.13179 >>13187
>>13163
> fight club is a midlife crisis
> fight club is gay and full of gay innuendo
> fight club is about capitalism
next you're going to tell me that there's nothing ironic about alannis' song you filthy casual
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▶ No.13187 >>13301
>>13179
American Beauty was about midlife crisis
FIght Club is just about the meaninglessness of modern life
what I was pointing out was that those "gloomy" films from around the new millenium have some very similar themes and atmospheres
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▶ No.13301 >>13311
>>13187
fight club is more interesting than that, but the people making it didn't understand it themselves, which is why it was made
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▶ No.13311
>>13301
Not even the author understood how much truth there was assuming he never truly agreed with everything he wrote. The fact that Pepsi, Starbucks, Krispy Kreme, and Volkswagen were all shilled in the movie and people cult around shows that no one understood and that buying the movie is against the movie's ideals.
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▶ No.13379 >>18835
>>13377
OTOH, Lesbians are the only women who can legitimately be femcels. Not that you have to be celibate to be /doomer/
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▶ No.13383 >>18823
>>13377
Daria's straight, and IIRC she ruined her friendship with Jane over a guy like a typical roastie.
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▶ No.18823
>>13383
>Daria's straight, and IIRC she ruined her friendship with Jane over a guy like a typical roastie.
You recall correctly, anon, but if you read between the lines of the show creator (Eichler) and his writers' consistent attempts to justify the obvious, out of character nonsense that storyline was, it reeks of studio meddling to the max, like the studio was threatening them to either do the storyline or they'd cancel the show.
>>13085
>she's too successful to be a doomer
She's could never be a doomer - she's too much of a poser for it. Jane, Stacy, Jodie, even fucking Sandi would all make for much better doomers than she would - they all had actual problems in their lives, unlike Daria.
>>11273
Agreed, anon.
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▶ No.18834 >>18846
>>9579 (OP)
No, just redpilled to high school politics. Never saw her old enough to discover the real political redpills.
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▶ No.18835
>>13379
>Not that you have to be celibate to be /doomer/
No, but it's probably the most straightforward path to the negative nihilism inherent in doomerism.
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▶ No.18846
>>18834
>No, just redpilled to high school politics. Never saw her old enough to discover the real political redpills.
She wasn't even that redpilled to high school politics either - she was popular, had plenty of friends, and nobody bullied her whatsoever. Even the obese Goth chick called her out on it in one episode, implying the real outcasts looked at her as just another vapid thot. If anyone was redpilled to high school politics, it was Jane (the episode where she joined the track team). Honestly, Daria was an overrated show that had three good seasons, utterly fell apart when Tom was introduced, and is now about to be resurrected as a "woke" symbol for all her spiritual descendants today - the slacktivist posers who don't give a fuck because there's no incentive for them to actually do so; look at Daria's house growing up, anon - she was basically the JK Rowling of her time: everyone sucks but me, look at how enlightened I am, etc, all the while doing nothing constructive. At least Angela Chase of My So Called Life tried to stand up to the principal of her school when he cracked down on some student publication - what did Daria do when her principal sold out to the soda company? Feelings on MSCL aside, the point is that if anything, Angela Chase was far more redpilled on high school politics than Daria ever was.
>>11131
The weak soyboy isn't any better than DeMartino or Barch (the misandrist) - the show literally has no characters whatsoever, only generic stereotypes that see no real development because the writers were too busy making everyone kiss Daria's ass every episode, despite her doing nothing whatsoever. Seriously, the show is pretty much the textbook definition of wasted potential.
>>9655
>Didn't the show make a point that she was just as bad as the people she criticized? If so that flew over the roasties who thought "omg she just like me"
The show only paid lip service to this idea, because the writers were too busy pretending they were My So Called Life with the Tom storyline (at least Jordan fucking Rayanne was believable) and regulated anything interesting (Quinn literally trying to move on from being a thot being the big one) to the wayside. A fun fact is that while so many roasties will praise the show for being feminist, the show's own co-creator literally took Quinn from a strong, successful businesswoman (as her ultimate fate was if one relies on the second movie's credits sequence) and makes her a basic thot on steroids. Simply put, Daria is a completely forgettable show that probably should've been about Jane instead.
>>11128
>consistently gets good grades, implying she lives a structured life
Yeah, one she consistently whines about. Kids in literal gutters smile more than she does - she's literally got it made, anon, and yet acts like she's right there in the gutter.
>applies to and gets into a good college, implying hope for the future
Yeah, hope that somebody ELSE will do all the heavy lifting. Jodie literally calls her out on this in the soda episode. This girl couldn't even bag nuts, anon, and you think she has a good future ahead of her?
>maintains friendships and relationships, ending them on her own terms
But she's somehow an outcast - she says so herself.
>implied that she actually cares deeply for those around her despite her steely demeanor
She cares so much that she backstabbed her best friend, emotionally abuses her sister at every opportunity, shits all over her parents (who, despite their problems, at least give a shit), treats the other students as punching bags and so on; I have to conclude that anyone who actually praises Daria as a character wasn't really watching the show, because nobody who actually did would think of her as anything other than a spoiled rotten brat who needs a colonostickectomy urgently. At least Sandi had a reason to be a cunt.
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▶ No.18982 >>19171
guys that was/is/will always be generation X
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▶ No.19169
>>9580
I did it all for the Nookie yeah
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▶ No.19170
>>13078
>people knew something was wrong but many not sure what… you had the Unabomber, the Oklahoma City Bomber, Columbine massacre, etc. You even had Ross Perot, a third party candidate almost win for the first time in US history.
all of which were men
women. can't. be. doomers.
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▶ No.19171
>>18982
the generation that preceded mine and was the proto-woke types I despised growing up.
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▶ No.19173
to me I always saw the Xennials (my own generation) as the weird wild card in a woketard sandwich. though Zed can be either or now, anything goes. the first honest to god Libertarians I met were my peers. some became successful and furthered their views. others, such as me, stuck to the same right wing views but went leftward, often as left as it benefited them, to become nazbols. though IRL I've never met one, except myself, most I see are online and the closest one is a first gen Serbian immigrant who lives a few towns over.
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▶ No.19210 >>19214
Pretty sure it was this guy.
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▶ No.19214
>>19210
lolz so random ;-)
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▶ No.19555 >>19611
>>9579 (OP)
>Was she the original doomer?
No, the proto SJW.
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▶ No.19611
>>19555
>no, the proto SJW
Exactly. Daria was just a precursor to the "woke" shit we get nowadays. The real appeal of her show was that every other character was far more interesting.
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