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 No.26720>>26722 >>26743 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Find God before it is too late.

Azazel is NOT God.

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 No.26722>>26734

>>26720 (OP)

but do you really need a religious figure to have morality and not fuck up?

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 No.26734

>>26722

Morality is only a suboptimal substitute for the real thing. It is when you consider doing something, but end up not doing it due to your personal conscience. For this, no god is required.

For Mores, where you are unable to even consider certain actions, no matter how bad your situation, for that an external force is required since only belief in something greater than you can have you mentally resilient in the face of annihilation of the lower self.

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 No.26739>>26742 >>26744 >>26745

For starters, I don't know what you're trying to imply with this statement

>Azazel is NOT God.

I don't think anyone here suggests that he is.

With that being said every culture of people who 'found God' ended up fighting over it eventually with one accusing the other that they didn't 'find God' appropriately and now we have thousands of offshoots each one with their different LARP - I mean respectfully, theory on how to achieve salvation.

So this leads me to the question, what is God? Where does one find God? How does one know when they found God that it is God and not some delusion?

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 No.26740

god is dead and we have killed him

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 No.26742

>>26739

God is pure existence and therefore God is an original nigger, the proto-nigger so to say.

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 No.26743

>>26720 (OP)

No, Jew.

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 No.26744

>>26739

According to the 12 steps, the only pseudo-religious organization to do anyone any good, God -- or as they refer to it, a higher power – is whatever you want them to be.

As many of the individuals joining an AA program are usually atheistic or agnostic (perhaps the raison d'etre for their addiction), the question often comes up of how to find a higher power when all scientific reasoning points to the the nonexistence of a big bearded man up in the sky. The solution, as stated in chapter 4 of the AA big book, "We Agnostics", is to ask yourself, "Do I believe, or am I willing to believe, that a Power greater than myself exists?". In other words, can you even conceive of what a Power greater than yourself would possibly look like?

To quote another section, "We looked askance at those who considered themselves godly. How could a Supreme Being have anything to do with it all? And who could comprehend a Supreme Being anyhow? Yet in other moments, we found ourselves thinking, when enchanted by a starlit night, 'Who, then, made all of this?' There was a feeling of awe and wonder, but it was fleeting and soon lost". Therefore I make the conjecture that you don't have to be religious or praise anyone else's conception of a "god" to be spiritual. We have all experienced this spirituality once before, whether consciously or not. Rather than convince yourself of a lovecraftian space monster that preacher is so enraptured by, create your own conception of a thing that is ontologically greater than you.

I have personally chosen something like the dad form the movie "Interstellar". Spoiler Alert: At the end of the movie he falls into a black hole and finds himself as a 4th dimensional observer of the universe. Rather than present himself to 3rd dimensional creatures, he visits a time when he and his daughter were still together, and just drops little hints that signify to her "I'm still here, and I love you". That, to me, is more beautiful than any of the Monotheistic bullshit that gets shoved down our collective throats as children.

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 No.26745

>>26739

According to the 12 steps, the only pseudo-religious organization to do anyone any good, God -- or as they refer to it, a higher power – is whatever you want them to be.

As many of the individuals joining an AA program are usually atheistic or agnostic (perhaps the raison d'etre for their addiction), the question often comes up of how to find a higher power when all scientific reasoning points to the the nonexistence of a big bearded man up in the sky. The solution, as stated in chapter 4 of the AA big book, "We Agnostics", is to ask yourself, "Do I believe, or am I willing to believe, that a Power greater than myself exists?". In other words, can you even conceive of what a Power greater than yourself would possibly look like?

To quote another section, "We looked askance at those who considered themselves godly. How could a Supreme Being have anything to do with it all? And who could comprehend a Supreme Being anyhow? Yet in other moments, we found ourselves thinking, when enchanted by a starlit night, 'Who, then, made all of this?' There was a feeling of awe and wonder, but it was fleeting and soon lost". Therefore I make the conjecture that you don't have to be religious or praise anyone else's conception of a "god" to be spiritual. We have all experienced this spirituality once before, whether consciously or not. Rather than convince yourself of a lovecraftian space monster that preacher is so enraptured by, create your own conception of a thing that is ontologically greater than you.

I have personally chosen something like the dad form the movie "Interstellar". Spoiler Alert: At the end of the movie he falls into a black hole and finds himself as a 4th dimensional observer of the universe. Rather than present himself to 3rd dimensional creatures, he visits a time when he and his daughter were still together, and just drops little hints that signify to her "I'm still here, and I love you". That, to me, is more beautiful than any of the Monotheistic bullshit that gets shoved down our collective throats as children.

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