/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

>>54390

I kinda like it, but DIE or Lie are kinda too on the nose don't you think? also it's not a very good name if you're looking the site or whatever it ends up being up, it should be more unique.

Perhaps it would be better to not even use initials and not be too much like SCP, think Jinteki Industries for example.

>>54381

>Please no poo in loo people, fuck india

lol

>Download, Isolate, Encrypt or DIE for short

I like that better

>>54390

I love the name and rest of the what you said but "Lockdown" dosen't really sound cyberpunky.

>>54397

>Lockdowns

>Not cyberpunk

They are "shut it down" protocols. That in itself sounds cyberpunk as shit. They would make sense, as standard procedure for containment of digital anomalies would be to "lockdown" the nodes connected to the anomaly (think a police cordon around the affected node), isolate the server itself, and then encrypt (airgapping would be more realistic, though) its contents so they never reach the Internet again. Lockdown and Isolate would be somewhat redundant, but you can replace Isolate with Inject.

I recall an implant in Cyberpunk 2020 that was the Lockdown Implant, which was a chip that allowed you to locate snipers, so we have precedents of the word being used in the genrr.

Add me on Tox and I'll try and add you to a group chat if I can figure out how the fuck Tox works.

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>>54387

fixed

>>54413

I would recommend against using Tox for discussing the project, or any other IM program, for the time being.

I have seen a lot of neat imageboards projects die due to going off board in their infancies. It usually occurs that a portion of the userbase discussing the project go into the chatroom, while the imageboard threads on the topic slowly lose interest due to lower activity and exchange of ideas, so many users simply forget about it. When the chatroom users stop deliberating and finally open a new thread, the idea has changed so much in the non-chatroom collaborators' absence that they start to abhor the idea, as if it was no longer their project, and so the project dies due to a lack of collaborators.

We will definitely need a chatroom in the future, but I think now is not the moment. After we get a name, an identity, an aesthetic, a purpose of being, a wiki, and two or three articles in place (sounds like a lot, but it really isn't), then that will be the moment when rapid communication will be beneficial.

>>54395

It has to be a government organisation.

>>54402

In that case, How about "Shutdown" instead of "Lockdown" ?

>>54420

Can't agree more

What if we host our website on IPFS ? Have anyone here heard of this technology ? If anyone can do the back-end programming, I will do the front-end. I am jobless so a project would me nice distraction for my depression, lol.

But if everyone would prefer just a wiki for now, I am alright with that too.

Another sugession:-

What if we create two separate websites, one of SCP like reports and another for web-stories, like literotica (I ma talking about the format, not the content) ?

Another :-

What if we join a blockchain like LBRY ? Not only can we have distributed hosting but also a way for writers to earn and exchange talents.

These are just suggestions by the way which I am putting forward to discuss with you. This is OUR project afterall.

>>54435

>It has to be a government organisation.

Not necessarily. I get where you are coming from, but a for profit organization would fit more a cyberpunk world. Furthermore, I think a for profit organization with a deeper hidden purpose founded by an eccentric millionaire ("I want to resurrect my dead daughter through the power of AI", yadda yadda, you get the drill) would be even more mysterious than a government organization.

>In that case, How about "Shutdown" instead of "Lockdown" ?

Would be suiting, but then it would be SIE, which means nothing. But as >>54395 said, it may be too on the nose (I still like how LIE sounds, tho), and we may want to distance ourselves from SCP and its conventions. For example, I would argue their classifications system (Safe, Euclid, Keter, Thaumiel, and retarded snowflake ratings in some newer SCP) is nonsensical, as it is nondescriptive and not flexible enough for an organization that may not only just contain stuff, so I think we could distance ourselves from stuff like that. Maybe a safety rating (harmless or dangerous), a containment status (non-containable, non-contained, partially contained, contained), and maybe even a rating for the interest the organization has in it, but that's a topic for another time. The general idea is that we better not stick too much to SCP conventions; it would be better if we were our own thing and not a reskin of SCP.

>>54436

>What if we host our website on IPFS ?

Would be cool, but hosting a dynamic website on IPFS is a pain in the ass. IPFS can only act as the Model (that would be, our database) and host the code to our website, but it can't be executed, which means all the Controller/backend would be JavaScript code running in the browser, and we would still need a server to distribute the JS IPFS engine and point it to our data. This is a problem because it's "completely" incompatible with running on Tor Browser, or text-based browsers, so, while I would actually think having an optional JS layer on the website to add extra functionality (for absolute madmen who want to enable JS in Tor Browser, and possible clearnet access points), it better not depend on it, just like 8chan does.

>But if everyone would prefer just a wiki for now, I am alright with that too.

I would personally open up a WikiDot as soon as we get a name, then start developing our own systems in parallel using GitGud or something. I could write the backend, depending on what kind of language you want to use. I would be very in if you decided to run the backend in NodeJS, because, as ashamed I am to admit it, I am somehow a JavaScript magician, but I can adapt to pretty much everything but PHP, Java, and C :^) given some time.

>What if we create two separate websites, one of SCP like reports and another for web-stories, like literotica (I ma talking about the format, not the content) ?

I would prefer a single website for it. Sure, two separate sections make sense, but two websites would probably be a waste of domains, not to mention a possible unnecessary separation of the userbase.

>What if we join a blockchain like LBRY ? Not only can we have distributed hosting but also a way for writers to earn and exchange talents.

I am not sure how well would sit a for-profit collaborative project around here, or the Internet in general. I am not entirely against it, but it's certainly not something we should think right now, specially knowing we don't have our own backend systems yet.

Also, completely unrelated, but I think the content should be licensed as CC-BY or more permissive. We have nothing to win from being overzealous with this, but we have a lot to win from making it free as in freedom.

>>54439

Forgot to mention that you may be more interested in ZeroNet than IPFS, as it is specifically designed for this, but I heard it is not that well developed, and potentially insecure.

>>54435

>It has to be a government organisation.

Why? think it would make more sense as a supranational organization

>>54436

>create two separate websites

I don't think spreading out is a good idea, these are the very early stages of the project, first we just need to get something going, then we can worry about that sort of thing.

>>54439

>a containment status

a control status* containment is too linked with SCP also i think the arrogance that comes with the word control would fit more the cyberpunk theme

>it would be better if we were our own thing and not a reskin of SCP.

Absolutely, there's obviously going to be a lot of crossover and inspiration from SCP but we should try to be unique as well.

>as soon as we get a name

We should make a poll as soon as possible

>>54439

>Not necessarily. I get where you are coming from, but a for profit organization would fit more a cyberpunk world. Furthermore, I think a for profit organization with a deeper hidden purpose founded by an eccentric millionaire ("I want to resurrect my dead daughter through the power of AI", yadda yadda, you get the drill) would be even more mysterious than a government organization.

It has to be a government organisation because then the motive of said organisation will be to maintain the status quo, contain as much information as possible and possibly, figure the usefulness of the devices from different timelines. Due to this, their primary task will the analyze the devices as much as possible, which in turn will give the writers a lot of freedom to create these devices and the timelines from which they leaked from.

>Would be suiting, but then it would be SIE, which means nothing. But as >>54395 said, it may be too on the nose (I still like how LIE sounds, tho), and we may want to distance ourselves from SCP and its conventions. For example, I would argue their classifications system (Safe, Euclid, Keter, Thaumiel, and retarded snowflake ratings in some newer SCP) is nonsensical, as it is nondescriptive and not flexible enough for an organization that may not only just contain stuff, so I think we could distance ourselves from stuff like that. Maybe a safety rating (harmless or dangerous), a containment status (non-containable, non-contained, partially contained, contained), and maybe even a rating for the interest the organization has in it, but that's a topic for another time. The general idea is that we better not stick too much to SCP conventions; it would be better if we were our own thing and not a reskin of SCP.

I agree, please share some suggestions.

>Would be cool, but hosting a dynamic website on IPFS is a pain in the ass. IPFS can only act as the Model (that would be, our database) and host the code to our website, but it can't be executed, which means all the Controller/backend would be JavaScript code running in the browser, and we would still need a server to distribute the JS IPFS engine and point it to our data. This is a problem because it's "completely" incompatible with running on Tor Browser, or text-based browsers, so, while I would actually think having an optional JS layer on the website to add extra functionality (for absolute madmen who want to enable JS in Tor Browser, and possible clearnet access points), it better not depend on it, just like 8chan does.

I agree. I don't see a role of JS in a website to read stuff and post stuff to be read by.

>I would personally open up a WikiDot as soon as we get a name, then start developing our own systems in parallel using GitGud or something. I could write the backend, depending on what kind of language you want to use. I would be very in if you decided to run the backend in NodeJS, because, as ashamed I am to admit it, I am somehow a JavaScript magician, but I can adapt to pretty much everything but PHP, Java, and C :^) given some time.

Yes, I and we can't really seem to think up a really rad name. Do you know Python ? I know Python but I don't know Django or Flask (frameworks used for backend web development). Just HTML, CSS and basic C++ .

>I would prefer a single website for it. Sure, two separate sections make sense, but two websites would probably be a waste of domains, not to mention a possible unnecessary separation of the userbase.

Hm, you are right. Okay let's scrap that how will we separate these two sections.

>I am not sure how well would sit a for-profit collaborative project around here, or the Internet in general. I am not entirely against it, but it's certainly not something we should think right now, specially knowing we don't have our own backend systems yet.

The thing is that LBRY is also a content hosting platform. For example on the video content platform www.lbry.io , whenever you press play, the video automattically gets downloaded and starts hosting it out of your PC since they have their own web client or Android mobile through their app. The same could be done with articles.

>>54440

In that case, can you check this out and tell me what you think ?

https://beakerbrowser.com/

>>54443

>a control status* containment is too linked with SCP also i think the arrogance that comes with the word control would fit more the cyberpunk theme

Good idea. It also implies we want to be able to use everything we seize to our advantage. SCP is fine with containing stuff and calling it a day, whereas we want to incorporate it to our lineup if it is remotely useful.

Another silly idea I had: SCP usually forbids or discourages cross-testing, but if we want to take over the fucking world, or whatever other megalomaniacal objective we have, we have to get our hands dirty. We should encourage cross-testing, and further experimentation on our items, to the point I think the focus of the articles should be more about expanding our knowledge on the anomaly, than silly containment procedures nobody cares about (not that we can't have them, but fuck, I don't know if it's just me, but when they start to describe fucking regular metal room in autistic detail for several paragraphs, I just end up skipping straight to the description). As such, many articles would need to be "alive". You know Danbooru's meta petition tags, such as "tag_me", or "translation_request"? If the author wants to get its article expanded by other authors, because it is considered "incomplete", it could get tagged as "further_research_requested", and could eventually be incorporated into some of the organization's projects. At some point, some articles could be considered "complete", and given a definite conclusion, either by decommissioning the anomaly (which shouldn't be considered just a resource for shittily written anomalies), or by achieving total control and exploitation of the anomaly. We could also add "future hooks" to some articles, as a lot of SCP articles have "O5 reclassification from Euclid to Keter petition pending", and it makes me really sad to see they never get reclassified, as if frozen in time, like a simple episodic cartoon for children where the status quo never changes. Basically, a push for truly collaborative writing.

>We should make a poll as soon as possible

We could post a list of the suggested names here, and then order them by our order of preference, then add up the points they get from their position, and check up which one has a bigger score. Or we could just use StrawPoll.

>>54444 (Check'd)

>It has to be a government organisation because then the motive of said organisation will be to maintain the status quo, contain as much information as possible and possibly

A private corporation could do the same as well. Knowledge they seize is knowledge their competition won't have.

>Do you know Python ?

It was my first language. Haven't touched it in years, but it was pretty similar to most scripting languages, so I am sure I could pick it up again with ease. We may also consider Go, Lua, Rust, or even Ada, for metashitposting purposes on military-grade security. I heard Elixir is also pretty gud, but I don't feel confident enough to have this be my first project in that language.

>Beaker Browser

Sounds cool at first glance, but it doesn't seem to be really popular at all. For all we know, ZeroNet may be more mature, but I need to make some deeper research into this.

>>54444

>not that we can't have them, but fuck, I don't know if it's just me, but when they start to describe fucking regular metal room in autistic detail for several paragraphs, I just end up skipping straight to the description

This, and as you mention our organization should be more proactive, not simply secure and contain but control and use for our advantage.

>We could post a list of the suggested names here, and then order them by our order of preference, then add up the points they get from their position, and check up which one has a bigger score. Or we could just use StrawPoll.

Whatever you like i guess, my point is that no name will really sound good until it's well established so i'd advice we quickly pick one make a thread with project "name" and actually start making this thing.

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>Adscensio Corporation

>Adscensio Conglomerate

>Adscensio Authority

>Enchantress Division

>Isolate, Download, Encrypt (IDE)

>Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (EEE, or 3E)

>Download, Isolate, Encrypt (DIE)

>Lockdown, Isolate, Encrypt (LIE)

>Lockdown, Inject, Encrypt (LIE)

>Shutdown, Isolate, Encrypt (SIE)

These seem to be all the names suggested so far (if I have missed one, please let me know). Given that we are just getting permutations of the IDE entry now, I guess we could just start voting with what we have now, or else this won't be done before the heat death of the universe. Our name is important, but let's not make this our version of /tech/'s logos. We may even be able to change it in the future while in our early stages, so don't sweat it too much.

Now, we need a voting method. I propose the following:

>List your 5 favourites from the list above. If you want to add a new one, please do so.

>Order them, from most favourite to least favourite

>Assign a score to each member of your list, depending on their position. Your most favourite gets a score of 5, your second most favourite a 4, and so and so all the way down to 1.

>You may decide to post a list of less than 5 entries

Example:

5. The best name

4. Also a good name

3. A decent name

2. An acceptable name

1. A tolerable name

This is mostly to avoid opening a Strawpoll, while also giving us the ability to vote several options by score, and add new options of our own, but if you prefer to use Strawpoll or a similar site, it's also fine too.

We also need a deadline. What do you think about Wednesday 13? We may also try to wait until next week, but I think that may be too much time pausing this. Your call, though.

>>54509

Adscensio Conglomorate - 5

Adscensio Corporation - 4

Enchantress Division - 3

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish - 2

Lockdown, Isolate, Encrypt - 1

>>54509

5.Adscensio Authority

4.Enchantress Division

3.Adscensio Conglomerate

2.Adscensio Corporation

1.Isolate, Download, Encrypt (IDE) just for the acronym

Aren't lockdown and isolate the same thing? i don't really think any of the acronym names really roll off the tongue, but whatever.

>Wednesday 13?

We are few, that's likely enough time for us to see it and vote.

Also this thread could be stickied.

>>54509

>5. Adscensio Corporation

>4. Lockdown, Inject, Encrypt

>3. Enchantress Division

>2. Adscensio Congolmerate

>1. Adscensio Authority

>>54515

>Also this thread could be stickied.

Say no more.

>>54527

We did it Reddit!

>>54445

>We should encourage cross-testing, and further experimentation on our items, to the point I think the focus of the articles should be more about expanding our knowledge on the anomaly, than silly containment procedures nobody cares about

Yes, I agree. They are devices, not creatures , so it is only realistic that they are researched thoroughly. And I agree with the rest of the paragraph too.

>We could post a list of the suggested names here, and then order them by our order of preference, then add up the points they get from their position, and check up which one has a bigger score. Or we could just use StrawPoll.

Yes, But so far we have only two good names L.I.E and D.I.E. I really want to go forward with the naming poll but we are not getting any more suggestions.

>A private corporation could do the same as well. Knowledge they seize is knowledge their competition won't have.

An attitude of indifference among the agents i important for the motive to remain "maintain the status-que" which private corporations lack due to the profit-motive.

>Sounds cool at first glance, but it doesn't seem to be really popular at all. For all we know, ZeroNet may be more mature, but I need to make some deeper research into this.

It is very similar to the IPFS technology.

How is Zeronet better though ?

Okay guys. I have decided that we are not going to follow the SCP naming scheme and since the organisation is a government organisation, Adscencio Authority is the good name we have right now, But I will still put 'Enchantress Division' in the poll since more than two people suggested it. Please suggest more in reply to this.

>>54550

How about "Technological Anomaly Research and Containment Operations Force". It'd at least have the benefit of a somewhat memorable acronym, and sounds like something a government org would actually be named.

>>54570

TARCOF? sounds like a nato taskforce or something, not bad but again, i think we're focusing too much into the name, let's jsut pick one and be done with that, for now anyway

>>54570

I note it down

>>54573

I agree but thees things are very important for building a community.

scp is gay. no

NEVER MIND THE NAME, WHAT ABOUT THE BLOODY LOGO M80S?

>>54629

Also very important, too bad i'm shit at image editing, also, no idea what it could even be other than a vague "make it look cyber".

>>54509

5. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (EEE, or 3E)

4. Adscensio Corporation

3. Adscensio Authority

2. Lockdown, Isolate, Encrypt (LIE)

1. Shutdown, Isolate, Encrypt (SIE)

3E is probably the most cyber, it has real-world links to something nefarious, and it sounds unique. Adscensio Corporation is decent, "Adscensio" is kind of a mid-80s idea of what a future corp would be called. Adscensio Authority makes it sound like there's such a thing as an "adscensio" and they're the authority of it. The last two are kinda meh.

Enchantress Division is a retarded name that sounds like it came from a board of weebs, which it has, but it'd be offputting to 99% of people.

>>54642

>it has real-world links to something nefarious

E3? schway

Extend and extinguish don't make a lot of sense there? i mean, would this org extend something to try to extinguish later? in any case it's too derivative of SCP, that's why i'm more into the actual names. Don't really like Adsencio though.

>>54659

Since when does K E K translates to schway? thought schway meant C O O L

>>54660

It does, previous BO was a retard with the wordfilter.

>>54673

>>54660

Yeah, sorry about that. Didn't notice until now. It's fixed now.

Also, since the proposed time for the poll is long over, I am going to unsticky this thread. Let me know if you need it again.

>>54685

Who won though?

>>None of us, let's face it.

>>54691

c'est la vie

>>54689

Adscensio Corporation - 15

Adscensio Conglomerate - 10

Enchantress Division - 10

Adscensio Authority - 9

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish - 7

Lockdown, Isolate, Encrypt - 4

Lockdown, Inject, Encrypt - 4

Shutdown, Isolate, Encrypt - 1

None of the votes used the same IP, although one used Tor. I counted it in, though. I performed these calculations by hand, so feel free to double check them and call me on my dyscalculia if that's the case.

>>54731

>Adscensio

>ad sense

I don't know why it only just clicked, but I'm a lot fonder of that name now.

>>54731

>double check them

Nevermind that.

Thinking the name can be just a cover for the org and not an actual corp, just throwing that out there.

We got a name, now what do we do? set up a simple wiki or make it and host it ourselves?

Now we work on a logo, then abandon the idea, as Allah wills.

>>54735

about that, I would gladly host a hidden service mirror

>>54735

I personally think we should apply for a WikiDot wiki as a temporary measure to get the ball rolling, and parallelly fund the R&D of a system that would allow us to host a fully customizable wiki by ourselves.

Talking about logos, we need one. Any vectorfags here?

>>54775

>we should apply for a WikiDot wiki as a temporary measure to get the ball rolling

indeed

buuuuuuump so this doesn't die again

>>55000

Hopefully those digits will revive interest

>>55003

It seems not

necro time

So is this shit going to get revived?