No.30147 [View All]
What drugs do you guys think is the most /cyber/? What do you use?
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No.39315
Cyber = Internet
Any drug can be cyberpunk as long as it still allows you to function on the net.
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No.39316
>>30154
>psychedelics are degenerate
>opens consciousness
>changes perspective to an organic and positive POV
fuck outta here
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No.45081
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No.45083
>>45081
Like every piece of cyberpunk fiction is pumped to the gills with drugs what the fuck is this nonsense
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No.45085
A "Better Than Life" chip (also called "DreamChips"). An illegal cyber-data chip which provides the user a combination of artificial reality coupled with direct stimulation of different centers of the brain. Though typically designed to provide a pre-programmed fantasy, the artificial reality need not be coherent, i.e. it can provide a totally hallucinatory environment. Chips are typically designed to burn out after one use, both to prevent the users brain from overloading from the sustained stimulation, and to force the user to purchase additional chips. BTL chips are psychologically addictive and repeated, frequent use causes permanent brain damage
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No.45096
>>30167
>Two blocks west of the Chat, in a teashop called the Jarre de The, Case washed down the night's first pill with a double espresso. It was a flat pink octagon, a potent species of Brazilian dex he bought from one of Zone's girls.
http://www.lib.ru/GIBSON/neuromancer.txt
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No.45097
>>45096
>dex
>Dextroamphetamine
>is a potent central nervous system stimulant
>also used as an athletic performance and cognitive enhancer, and recreationally as an aphrodisiac and euphoriant
>widely used by military air forces as a 'go-pill' during fatigue-inducing mission profiles such as night-time bombing missions
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No.45100
>>45097
>dex
>aphrodisiac
I've used it for years, it's never had that effect on me. Also, you copied/pasted that from wikipedia, where the aphrodisiac claim is unsourced.
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No.45116
Just got a vyvanse prescription
What am I in for?
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No.45118
What about all those movies and video games where the "squad" is sent in to clean up a den full of druggies who got addicted to the new stuff?
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No.45141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y tell me how tell me now why is McKenna never brought up here?? His work on drugs dovetails directly into cyberpunk. Gotta get right with conviction, chummers.
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No.45142
Tell me why Mckenna is never brought up here? His work on drugs dovetails directly into Cyberpunk, he cites Gibson deftly and justly. Gotta get right with conviction, chummers. Dump your old OS and click on the button marked "Dimethyltryptamine". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y
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No.45143
Dump that old OS and click on the button marked "Dimethyltryptamine"
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No.45144
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No.45147
>this thread
You all seem to forget that what you refer to as typically cyberpunk is the artistic genre, while drug use is a custom of the subculture, should it even exist (I highly doubt it).
Drug use in Cyberpunk novels is not meant to show the strength and coolness of the characters, but rather an indication of their loss of control over their own life. Electronic drugs extend this to the rejection of reality in favor of a cheap, easily obtained high.
If you want to take drugs because it's what your favorite novel protagonist does, don't. You'll get shitty stuff that has been cut by several dealers along the way to you. If you think there's something to be gained from the substances you consume, make sure they are reasonably pure. Grow your own ganja or shrooms, make whatever white powder you crave with real lab equipment. Everything else is just putting your health at risk with no good reason.
And, please please please, stop believing cyberpunk is real. It's an art style, not a way of life. You're knee deep in shit in your "free democratic society", and even deeper in the rest of the world. Don't dream yourself into a world that would fuck you up so badly that you'd think taking rat poison with traces of speed is a good way to have fun. Seriously man.
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No.45155
This coming from a drug user who is generally pro drug, I'm not sure drugs are inherently cyberpunk.
Kind of like how you watch cowboy bebop and think smoking cigarettes are schway as fuck and cyberpunk, until you go out and see the old lady across the street puffing away at a pal mal and realize you've just gotten yourself addicted to nicotine for no reason (or at least that's my experience). You might think stims or RCs are cyberpunk but then you realize you can go down to any pop music blasting, slut infested club and find 18 year olds sniffing lines in the toilette at 1 am. Then you realize it's not the substance that conveys a meaning, it's what you do on it or more precisely what you use it for. And here is my point. Just because drugs aren't necessarily cyberpunk doesn't mean it isn't interesting or useful to discuss them coming from a cyberpunk angle. It is very informative to me at least to see that only one person has mentioned disassociates in this thread, which I think are one of the most /cyber/ drugs out there. I'll try and be a bit more clear with an analogy:
drums are not always related with punk, but they can be and when they are they are definitely punk
drugs are not always related with cyberpunk, but coming at the idea of drugs from a cyberpunk perspective makes them relevant.
That's my 2 cents anyway
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No.45176
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No.45179
>>45147
Seconding this post. People take the genre too seriously sometimes and end up choosing harmful lifestyles because that's what protagonists in cyberpunk fiction do. Case wasn't taking high-powered amphetamines because it was a good idea, he was taking them because he was borderline suicidal.
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No.45183
What nootropics actually work? Moda does absolutely nothing for me, might as well be drinking water.
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No.45196
>Drug use in Cyberpunk novels is not meant to show the strength and coolness of the characters, but rather an indication of their loss of control over their own life.
Wrong. Using stimulants at the right time and small amounts makes the difference between you being a regular schmuck and someone who can spend all night researching and studying.
Even if the toll on your body and mind can be negative, done correctly this gives you a serious edge over normal people.
The same thing is true about LSD and and being a DJ at a club. When you use psychedelics and stimulants you gain mental abilities and endurance you otherwise wouldn't have. This opens up your options.
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No.45197
Gonna guess stimulants, but I don't do drugs. I like my mind and body working properly in the short and long term when I work on projects.
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No.45321
>>45196
>>45183
me and most of my friends have used amphetamines in law school to get an edge. it's not healthy, but it works. there's a reason why even games like chess have anti-doping rules regarding amphetamine usage.
the only other nootropic that has hard evidence backing it up is caffeine with l-theanine (theanine won't make you smart but just makes you less shakey after taking a few hundred mg of caffeine)
these days i alternate between moda and adrafanil but more as a replacement for coffee as a morning pick-up than for any nootropic effect. i think a lot of people who claim -afinil makes you smarter are simply more awake and aware. you would get the same effect sleeping properly every night assuming there's nothing wrong with you.
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No.45767
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No.45768
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No.45819
amphetamines without a doubt
I miss them sometimes but you just can't keep doing drugs like that
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No.46150
>>45197
chummer, stimulants ARE drugs. Don't be retarded about this.
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No.46158
>>45768
I had DMT once.
Not a fan
I don't know why normales like it so much.
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No.46165
would speed be a bad idea for someone who has anxiety?
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No.46167
So I'm planning to take modafinil for the first time on monday. I'll report back and tell you what it's like.
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No.46186
Destroying your mind is not "cyber" - expanding it is.
Weed, LSD, shrooms, maybe Ecstasy if you can find a decent test kit.
And everything on that list except weed is a "sometimes food" - every few months, not every few days.
Personally I'm too paranoid to buy a test kit with my credit card and local head shops don't sell them, so I've stuck to weed + some truffles I scored in good old Amsterdam.
I'd try LSD if offered in a safe setting but it's usually in the middle of a big event and it seems rude to just take it from someone then save for later.
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No.46206
>>31158
Hmm this site is down. I wonder if it is a temporary thing?
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No.46219
>>46206
modacat went out of business a while ago. when they went, they recommended afinilexpress as a replacement service and they had great reviews for a while but they seem to be down as well now.
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No.46234
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No.46251
Caffeine is the most cyber drug. From normie to hipster to coder to normie to aug back to hipster again, caffeine pushes the limits of the body in all bodies.
It's also the active ingredient in soycaf.
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No.48290
examine.com
also the levels of hyperlarp occuring. Do you guys really need seal team 6 tier stimulants to shit post while fantasizing about learning to code?
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No.48291
>>31267
If I were you, I'd stop immediately what you are doing. Eventually, it will generate a bad image at your work environment if people end up knowing what are you doing - specially your boss. I don't really condone following the system, but if you've got a good job, at least try to keep it.
Microdosing LSD, Nootropil, Melatonin. Ocasionally Modafinil for when I need to focus or I'm behind the schedules.
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No.48292
>>45147
>cut by several dealers
>what are DNMs
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No.48313
Weed everyday, amphetamines and aderall few times a month ( but when I do it it's for 40+ hours in continuity ) and during weekends cocaine, mdma, lsd, nbome, 2cb, shrooms.
I don't like downers and disassociatvies
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No.48490
THE ONLY /cyber/ DRUGS ARE DISSOCIATIVES AND STIMS
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No.48497
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No.48500
>>46165
That would be a very bad idea. Any amphetamine will make anxiety worse.
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No.50803
I dont know what its a /cyber/ drug, maybe some binaural beats? Or that new age machine that flicker some fast lights?
Shrooms, ayahuasca and weed are nice btw
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No.58360
Ketamine is the most cyber drug i can think of ;) You become one with the tech when doing it!
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No.58366
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No.58376
I only do acid, but I think there is not "that" /cyber/ personality. Just like you can imagine a detective as an alcoholic, a smoker, someone crazy who peaks on acid every now and then or someone who doesn't take anything. /cyber/ is a direction, not a persona.
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No.58404
>>30147
ANy drug can be /cyber/ with the right delivery method. I've been making my own vape juice using THC distillate and unflavored e-juice without Nicotine for a while now, flavors can be added too, if they're complimentary.
I've been wanting to start making tinctures as well.
Similar delivery methods can be created for most narcotics.
One thing I've had in mind to build for shits and giggles is a hookah-inspired vape mask. The idea would be to have a simple menpo style mask(doesn't have to be samurai shit or anything else weeby), with a valve and tube inside hanging down to a box or pack with a couple of pre-installed vape cylinders, one simply nicotine, one with THC or whatever your drug of choice is. You'd simply operate it by holding down the button or flicking the switch to your chosen cylinder, breathing in through the tube and then exhaling, allowing the vapor cloud to exit through side and front vents. If you're a giant fucking shazbot who wants "YOOOO HUGE CLOUDS BRO" it wouldn't work so well, but if you want to have a way of vaping multiple flavors or switching between drugs and not drugs it'll work pretty well, with the added benefit of having the vapor curl out like some kind of crazy space demon or steam powered robot if you design the mask well enough. I was thinking of making one inspired by the costume from The Guyver.
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No.58412
>>58404
>I was thinking of making one inspired by the costume from The Guyver.
The live adaptation or the manga? And would you construct the entire head piece or just the lower portion with the exit vents?
I feel that lots of people have pondered on a concept like this, myself included, and it only makes sense for it to exist as the next overkill vaping device. It's schway no doubt, but how practical it would be for day-to-day usage is questionable, especially if it's as clunky as a gas mask. Then again, some would argue that it's flashiness is part of the appeal, so I guess it'd be most appropriate to wear at a festival or party where that aesthetic is warranted. I can't really see myself going out in public with one on, though.
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No.58479
>>45196
Based and stimpilled.
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No.58495
>>58412
I always thought the live action one looked creepier, especially in the second film where they were able to emphasise the organic body-horror elements. A company that I like called JToku makes mempo-style masks out of all kinds of shit….mortal kombat stuff, power rangers, classic samurai/ninja style stuff, gundam, and also a guyver one. I'd try to do something similar to the one they have created, but probably in darker colors.
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No.58497
My latest in LSA with a whippet. Not the same as LSD, but then again I've had trust issues aquiring legit acid, so I take the milder version with something that kind of enhances it.
As a bonus, it ain't too hard on the body afterwords.
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