No.1059342
Does anybody actually like this show or is all the praise just typical shilling?
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No.1059344
This is purely anecdotal, but the only people I've seen praise this show are the same people who think shows like Steven Universe and Adventure Time are 10/10s.
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No.1059350
>>1059342
she looks man-ish
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No.1059353
>>1059344
Exactly, it feels cringe and unnatural.
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No.1059361
>>1059342
Only places I see this piece of shit get praise is ResetEra, Youtube, Twitter, and partly tumblr. Tumblr ain't what it used to be and its dying fast since they started banning shipping porn artists, many of which were faggots and tranneis who are now contemplating suicide.
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No.1059384
>>1059342
It's tumblrina crap so it get's over praised for being "woke" there is literally nothing good about it just watch the original She-Ra at least that one doesn't insults you for being a normal functional person.
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No.1059387
>>1059342
Did you watch it and not like it, OP? Is that why you're asking? If so, can you elaborate, without using greentext?
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No.1059390
>>1059342
>>1059344
I've never seen any discussion of the story or quality of the animation. Any praise or positivity surrounding the show seems to be purely on the basis of its symbolic value as another tumblry show where everyone is a stronk empowered womyn or a doughy, non-threatening shitskin. As an act of pandering it succeeds. As a form of entertainment, it fails.
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No.1059397
>>1059342
it got a 2nd season, so i suppose somebody is watching it?
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No.1059413
>>1059361
They should stop contemplating and just do it.
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No.1059419
>>1059387
Not OP, but the show is shit and shits on its predcessor, yet it gets obnoxious levels of praise because of lesbians and androgynous boy-like creatures wearing tube tops.
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No.1059558
>>1059397
I only watched this episode, sadly not enough old costumes time.
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No.1059559
>>1059350
The design that triggered people isn't even the design that gets used. It was some kind of work-in-progress and only appears in the pilot episode when she transforms for the first time. Either that or it was way off-model. The "man shape" she does have is clearly just a realistic non-titty breastplate and not the actual shape of her body. In-show, she's got a build like a beefier Korra. She doesn't have those huge shoulders, narrow hips, or man jaw. She just has thick limbs/torso, like a woman who's put on significant muscle, a rare example of a "strong woman" who actually looks like she'd be strong.
>>1059390
I've watched it. The animation is a tier or two above what's normal for current shows. They actually bother to make the characters expressive, have visual humor, and sometimes do something clever with the composition. The story is very character-driven, and the characters are well-realized. All of them have clearly established personalities, all the conflicts between them make sense given established character traits and motivations which is more than you can say for shit like Steven Universe. The character dynamics are surprisingly realistic and because the characters are clearly established and generally sympathetic it's easy to see why they're in conflict, plus the show usually walks the characters through resolving the conflict in a healthy way that strengthens their friendship. That's pretty good material for a kids' show since (again, unlike Steven Universe) it portrays how to be a good friend. They also contrast the princesses well with the Horde, who are generally abusive and can't or won't reconcile their different personalities.
The most reasonable authority figure by far happens to be the male leader of the "Evil Horde" who at worst gets mad and punishes people for deliberately making shitty choices, unlike the women who constantly undermine the girls they supervise. He's by far the most direct at dealing with conflict, and he only comes off as "mean" when he has to put up with bullshit from his underlings being conniving shits who make things worse by hiding their mistakes. He even discusses how he's sick of this shit and when someone admits fault or gives useful criticism he listens and rewards them. He sees the good in bad situations and focuses on that, but he also has no time for bullshit. The writers even had to give him a couple "asshole" moments in the second season because they hadn't been subtle enough at making him reasonable and people liked him too much, but that's mostly him overreacting a bit when punishing characters who massively fucked up.
It's also being set up that the princesses are actually bad, since season 2 was leaning so heavily on "wow the previous She-Ra hurt the planet, wasn't she so evil???" with almost zero context (and coming from a hologram who has already given bad advice, and has an obvious bias in the situation). It would be weird not to turn that into a twist where it turned out previous She-Ra was right or at least had a point. That and some Horde members and She-Ra's horse have criticized the princesses' monarchies.
>>1059419
There's two lesbians and they are background characters. Bow has gay dads but they only show up for one episode so far, and the premise is that they were bad parents who made (wrong) assumptions about what Bow was good at or wanted to do with his life, and he felt like he had to lie to them about it to be loved. The "representation" shit is limited to most of the cast being female and the characters being more brown than the original. She-Ra (the leader) is still comically Aryan though. The most "gay" thing they've done in the show is have the princesses glow rainbow colors, which, what do you expect out of a magical girl show? All of this kind of stuff is way understated when it's even there, honestly the whole "iT's aMBiGuOUs" thing about ship-bait is probably just marketing hype. The male characters don't get shit on (the main one is usually the voice of reason). Even the butt monkey macho guy is treated nicely when he's being insecure over not having powers, and at worst people find him kind of annoying. The only guy who isn't treated fairly is a Horde member and they portray it like he's not treated fairly.
>>1059397
They started off having written 4 arcs of 13 episodes each. Season 2 only did 7 so it may not be getting enough viewership to make all of them.
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No.1059560
>>1059559 here again. sage for doublepost, just wanted to clarify.
>>1059361
>>1059342
>>1059344
I think a lot of the praise or buzz is shilling because it's a netflix show and almost nobody's watching it. It's not because the show is bad, it's above average and obviously aspiring to follow in the footsteps of Avatar The Last Airbender. It's just that it's a netflix show on a huge pile of netflix shows that are mostly trash. It's actually pretty alright for a kids' show and given the original was a toy commercial it's better than it has any right to be.
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No.1059561
>>1059559
>That entire novella of a post
Please never reproduce.
Movies and TV shows are SO MUCH BETTER these days: https://invidio.us/watch?v=1dDPD6gvhHQ
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No.1059562
>>1059561
>posts something that's not even based on the show itself
The first thing in my post was explaining that the promotional art wasn't the final design. OP asked for opinions, and I'm apparently the only one who actually watched the show so I gave an overview.
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No.1059563
>>1059561
>That entire novella of a post
>Please never reproduce.
>he can't read long posts
Anon I think low Iqers like you should never reproduce
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No.1059565
>>1059561
>video praises Linda Hamilton for having muscles in Terminator 2 making her look like a badass, complains that GoT chick not having muscles makes her look like a kid
>video complains about new She-Ra having muscles because it makes her look un-feminine, but praises the original who has no muslces
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No.1059568
Might as well dump the rest.
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No.1059569
>>1059568
>>1059558
The D&D episode (this one, S2E4) was pretty clever about showing how the characters saw each other, doing different powers, costumes, and art styles. The different interpretations of Catra was the highlight, the voice actor and artists did a good job.
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No.1059570
>>1059568
Apparently when this was teased in a con the show runners expected people to cringe and instead got fanfare, as in "wait a minute, no! this is supposed to be stupid, stop liking it!"
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No.1059571
>>1059570
>being surprised that fans like fan service
>teasing with something that's supposed to make people cringe
what
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No.1059572
>>1059568
All of the women here look like boys crossdressing. Except the cat.
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No.1059573
>>1059571
It was basically meant to be some kind of bait and switch as in "look how the stupid comic relief character makes everyone role play as the retarded original characters, is OK, it was just a joke."
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No.1059576
>>1059571
>being surprised that fans like fan service
It seems like people put in charge of reboots nowadays tend to really hate the originals, and they assume everyone else does too.
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No.1059578
>>1059572
They're mostly mid-range teenagers. One is like 10.
>>1059573
>"look how the stupid comic relief character makes everyone role play as the retarded original characters, is OK, it was just a joke."
The original costumes are worn in the fantasy scenario presented by Bow (each character presents a different plan). Bow is consistently portrayed as one of the smartest characters in the show (behind only the gadgeteer and dark lord), usually the cool head and sole voice of reason. He's never stupid, rarely "comic relief" (never in a demeaning way), and he's almost always right. They probably picked him for the original costumes easter egg because he's the token boy and the original costumes are meant to be sexier.
If someone is marketing these characters as grrl power mary sue fantasies with loser manbaby sidekicks, they're wildly misrepresenting the show's writing. The major male characters are the least flawed to the point it's a bit weird. Even the one who's kind of a macho stereotype is still frequently useful to the missions and emotional problems.
Adora (She-Ra) is like Korra but written well. She's stubborn and rash, but those are portrayed as character flaws. She's not disrespectful. She has no romance drama (nor does the show as a whole). She treats her friends well. Her character development makes sense and doesn't reset constantly.
I half suspect that Dreamworks/Netflix are trying to catfish woketards into watching a show that teaches functional social behavior. Adora's whole character arc is about realizing she was with the wrong side, learning to be the good guy, and learning to get over the shitty behavior she used to be surrounded by.
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No.1059582
>>1059578
Teenagers should still look like girls.
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No.1059583
>>1059578
>She has no romance drama
Apparently she does… with Catra.
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No.1059585
>>1059583
According to the showrunners, her relationship with Catra is supposed to be ambiguous. I got almost zero romance vibes and not much ship bait from watching their interactions on the show, which is part of why I think the marketing is intentionally misleading. They act like close childhood friends turned rivals. That's it really. No particular signs of sexual attraction. The Gay Community likes to read into things, and the studios seem to be taking advantage of that for marketing purposes. If they wanted to be a big gay show that's one thing they failed at, and pretty hard. Sexuality is barely present at all.
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No.1059587
>>1059585
Failed? what about Bow's parents?
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No.1059590
>>1059587
Bow's parents who he was afraid to tell what he was doing with his life because they were shitty parents?
On the same topic, what about the single mom queen who admits she's at fault for Glimmer's dad dying and is generally a bad mother who doesn't listen to her daughter and shits on her dreams?
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No.1059591
>>1059590
Glimmer's dad is dead in this one?
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No.1059594
I've heard that the only good thing in season 1 was Catra and that the rest of the show was mediocre. I'm getting the vibe that it's an average show and all the internet drama exaggerats how good or bad it is.
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No.1059615
>>1059594
It stems from the fact that even the author said this is basically a thing she did with her dolls, that is, she liked to use her cartoon dolls to tell her own story, fanfiction if you will.
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No.1059616
>>1059615
Ah so like what Lauren Faust did with MLP.
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No.1059619
>>1059616
More or less I guess, if you ask me this She-Ra thing would have worked way better as a new franchise.
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No.1059639
>>1059563
Can't or won't? Nice cuckchan meme by the way - that was the cherry on top.
>>1059565
There is kind of a difference between looking strong/fit and having a good screen presence, compared to being a short, pudgy actress who can't hold a gun correctly. And nuShe-Ra does look like a boy, not a girl while the original looks like a real, fit woman.
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No.1059640
MSM crap..
If you watch this shit you might as well fuck a pony,.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2T6tZ6h6rAIElj7VcDUoiA?view_as=subscriber
Come to my channel and sub me. Fjck pewdie pie. Sub me…
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No.1059654
>>1059591
Yeah he appears in one episode in flashback so far. They seem to ne setting up a season 3 plot going into the backstory.
>>1059639
Original She-Ra looks like a pinup girl, not a melee fighter.
>>1059594
It's not groundbreaking or anything, but it does succeed at having reasonably complex and realistic characters. There's really not much to go "REEEE SJWs!" about.
It's definitely overhyped both ways (and for stuff that's barely part of the show). For example you have people gushing over "queer relationships" because of bits like the prom episode where the characters keep swapping dance partners irrespective of gender, but it plays more like a dance number or action sequence than something personal. And the characters are dancing with each other to communicate intrigue and updates about the ongoing mission. The show's like that in general - the characters are too focused on fighting a war and keeping the team functional to bother with romance so at most it's "subtext". People reading muh queers into stuff like that are just professional blog posters desperate for material, and Netflix is happy to have the free advertising. Whatever queer bait they put in the show is pretty scant to the point it's laughable that The Gay Community thinks it's good representation. It's like reading Fellowship of the Ring as super gay.
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No.1059675
Season 3 will be on August 2.
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No.1059830
>>1059561
>considering that a novel
I bet you think Harry Potter is good.
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No.1065311
the change from "Princess of Power" to "Princesses of Power" is intentional, there's more focus on the supporting cast, and that's a good thing.
Catra is obviously the best thing about the show, but Entrapta are pretty good also. Starting off as She'Ra's allies makes the villains a lot more interesting.
All the characters (except Bo) are probably more interesting in the revamp than in the original series. I just hope they find a way to work in Eternia / Prince Adam though I 100% understand they want to have the show stand on its own first before experimenting with anything like that.
The racemixing prop between Glimmer/Bo at least acknowledges that black guys can only get fatties, and Glimmer being a fatty actually makes a lot of sense since she can teleport everywhere instead of walking.
Mermista getting bleached by ADVENTURE also kind of balances things out.
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No.1067610
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No.1067613
>>1059342
>Does anybody actually like this show or is all the praise just typical shilling?
I really dread the Netflix branding. The typical retard who watches Netflix originals is too starved for new content that they will mindlessly gobble up shit.
The Castlevania cartoon was only good in a superficial way. The writing was utter shit but most people who hate it don't care enough to elaborate why making people assume that they are just butthurt about not being 100% like the video games. Social Media paints a very skewed perspective. A good writer should avoid social media like a fucking plague. Vocal minorities, retards, hugboxes, sycophants, outrage mobs, etc.
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No.1067642
It's shilling. It's one of those shows where people watch it because they think it is progressive and who think we should be brainwashing children through cartoons.
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No.1067767
>>1065311
>but Entrapta are pretty good also
She's one of the better ones, and it's funny how Hordak is the only reasonable authority figure. There's an odd scene in season 2 that uses literary references to compare Hordak to Alexander the Great and Entrapta to Diogenes of Sinope.
>Entrapta is messing with Hordak's shit in his private lab
>Hordak walks up and casts a shadow over her, asking what she thinks she's doing
>"Can you move? You're in my light," direct reference to the story of Alexander meeting Diogenes, which only becomes obvious given what happens next:
>Hordak then does a monologue basically quoting Alexander: "Is it not worthy of tears," he said, "that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?
It was a neat thing to include but the number of people who'd get the reference is pretty small.
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No.1067770
>>1059342
It's the only show where manly guys make out with manly guys with long hair and skirts.
See what I did there?
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No.1067772
>>1067770
Nobody makes out with anybody. Romance is pretty much relegated to backstory.
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No.1068643
I know I'm looking forward to season 3 in a week.
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No.1068768
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