b9e510 No.849021
because some men are celibate from birth, while some are celibate because they have been made that way by others. Still others are celibate because they have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom from heaven. Let anyone accept this who can."
Matthew 19:12 (ISV)
How do you deal with the fact that God created incels and it's all part of His glorious plan?
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2fb021 No.849022
>Incels were made by God
Water is wet.
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247197 No.849023
The better choice is "eunuch" in this verse, but even in this translation someone who is celibate is not an involuntary celibate, implying the goal to fornicate
Lifelong celibacy should be the exception. Incels/neets/hikikomori are the products of broken cultures
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c2a1d5 No.849024
>>849021
No. They don't accept it. That's why they're called "involuntary incels". They're still obsessed and bitter with what they don't have.
I'm a "volcel". I had every chance to not be, but followed a calling (or some would say, a vocation). Don't associate me - or any other celibates, priests, etc - with these guys. They're not at peace with their lives, and can't focus on the things of God. A real celibate dedicates his or her life to God and isn't bitter in the slightest. They gain more than they lose, and are well aware of that.
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3bd316 No.849085
>>849021
I think the people celibate from birth would be people with some defect preventing themselves from sex. The Bible and especially Paul seems pretty positive about celibacy, although that would be voluntary celibacy. Or if it's involuntary, embracing it to make it voluntary.
It's very hard for men these days, not because of God but because of free love, tinder and hypergamy. A lot of guys who are incels now would have gotten happily married in previous generations when monogamy was the norm. Guys don't make things easier for themselves by falling into excessive misogyny and pornography though.
The vast majority of incels on /r9k/ and so forth have unhealthy amounts of resentment of women and interest in perverted porn. And also often don't take care of themselves enough. You can't control your inborn traits (body, height, disability, etc.) but there's no excuse to not try to make the most of yourself, practice good hygiene, work (if able), etc. It may not get you a woman but at least you are doing what you can and will be able to respect yourself.
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edbfd8 No.849086
>>849021
volcels who choose celebacy for God because they recognize that the pleasures of God are greater than the pleasures of the flesh are those who glorify god
involuntary celibates, those who really want sex and just cant get it are not in the same category because they still buy into satan and the temporal pleasures of the flesh, they are simply unable to fulfil it. When incels become volcels, they can be considered great
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000000 No.849087
>>849021
Do you know what makes good righteous people? Death.
Over generations, if maladapted people pass on their genes you get decay.
This is predestination, you may be born with genes that make you prone to violence.
Incels have dogs—e genes which makes them ugly and is why they are rejected by women.
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000000 No.849088
>>849087
In a normal healthy population, about 80-90% of people won't pass on their genes, whether it's because they die or their offspring die or if they never find a partner, but the top 10-20% of people do and have very large families.
In our society instead of only 10% of people passing on their genes, about 80% do.
Incels are not righteous and they were predestined this way.
Ephesians 1:11
In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
Jerimiah 1:5
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
John 15:16
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.
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ff46fa No.849089
>>849088
>In a normal healthy population, about 80-90% of people won't pass on their genes
Uh no
In a normal healthy population most people are able to marry and reproduce
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1c8c4c No.849104
>>849089
This. Every sane person disagrees with torfag.
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3427c3 No.849115
>>849104
>>849089
I think he might be talking about how over maaaaaany generations, stuff like the branching process and Galton–Watson process happens.
But that stuff is way more complicated IRL, and i have a massive suspicion succesfags havent been the ones having the most kids for some centuries.
That's one of the reasons why i hate SJW's, modern feminism, incel stuff, commies and nazis.
They take a study/article/statistic which is interesting from a certain angle, and then pile their own blatant distortions and ideological bulls—.
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16761f No.849123
>>849088
"Ephesians 1:11
In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,"
There is no such thing as predestined as everybody here has a free will.
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7f13ad No.849129
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7f13ad No.849132
The problem with incels is, as >>849023 mentioned, A the broken satanic culture we are living in, and B that incels are full of rage and hatred, not only towards women, but in general, especially the most towards themselves. They cannot accept that they are men and have to act like it. Doesn't mean they need to pretend, just accept what you need to do and bite your teeth together.
In many cases they are incels because of the trauma that was caused by women in the family, or the father being extremely weak or tyrannical. They never experienced parental love, or so little that they have little to give also. Fact of the matter is, they'd be dead if they don't have the ability to love. Mankind is a product of love, so if you are entirely void of love chances are you die or become a psychotic murderer. It's not their fault per se, but at one point they have to accept and forgive themselves for being weak, effeminate failures. The anger and resentment is coming exactly for not accepting yourself. If you always fight who you are, you destroy yourself. You have to wear your weakness like a shield and not pretend you have none; the weakest men I've met are the ones who could never admit they are weak or bad in something.
t. former incel, who was on the path of becoming Chad
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1c8c4c No.849147
>>849132
>if you are entirely void of love chances are you die or become a psychotic murderer
True. If you're full of love you become a reasonable murderer.
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c23f9d No.849156
"incel" is not a term that should be used in christian discussion
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