e0dc4d No.831512
How do we know that Jesus wasn't invented by Romans? Can anyone refute these claims below?
>the earliest of the extant manuscripts [of the New Testament], it is true, do not date back beyond the middle of the fourth century AD
https://beyondallreligion.net/2012/01/21/how-christianity-was-invented/
https://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/fathereusebiustheforger.html
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87217e No.831518
can you cite any academician who believes romans invented christianity? As for the manuscripts, abundant fragments exist predating mid-4th century.
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e15f0b No.831525
It's good practice to disregard sites like this regardless of their stance
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8ebf35 No.831532
This is a rabbit hole that can only confirm biases. It's no good.
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539c34 No.831537
>>831512
the first link is absolutely retarded, thinks Constantine invented the Bible because he ordered some copies of the NT, and at one point, quotes Biblioteca Pleiades(new age writings site).
Free thinkers, my ass.
And the second is… >>831525 , yeah
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9b69d7 No.831588
>>831512
why would they invent someone who brings about a usurping of their pagan beliefs?
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237a85 No.831647
>>831588
Constantine didn't even do that anyways, which just makes this even more stupid. He let pagan temples exist, even after he befriended the Church. Nor did he embrace the Church wholeheartedly. It's a matter of record that he was closest to Eusebius - an Arian - and that Constantine himself had Arian sympathies. And he didn't even get baptized until the end of his life.
If he was "conspiring" to prop up the Church, he went about it in the most retarded way imaginable. Not only did he let pagan temples continuing existing, but he didn't even make the best friends with the main Church - but with Arians.
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237a85 No.831648
>>831647
Even more to the point, every other subsequent emperor after Constantine dabbled with Arianism. His own son and successor (Constantine II) was an actual Arian. People get the wrong idea of the Councils as being finalized affairs - but they were hashed out over decades and centuries, disputed, see-sawing with each bishop and pope and emperor in charge, where each played into different sympathies. It took hundreds of years to finally squash Arianism - and the emperors were the main culprit in pushing it.
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00f529 No.831675
>>831648
Arianism made it into the council of Chalcedon. So I wouldn't actually say it was defeated by the state church if that is the case.
There is also a valid idea that Arianism is also one of the major contributors to the amalgam called islam. You have many Arians dropping one creed and picking up another, and the islamic creed has elements of Arianism. As well as other various enemies of the faith.
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237a85 No.831683
>>831675
Oh I agree on that about Islam.. although it has it's own cultural quirks as well. You may know this, but many don't realize that even the "Qaaba" (the big black structure in Mecca) was originally a Christian building itself.. and that even Muhammad forbid anyone from touching the icons of Christ and Mary contained within (although they were later destroyed by another Islamic leader).
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