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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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f1b5f6  No.801863

People need to stop thinking of souls as natural objects and sin and sacraments as magic.

The current Catholic view of original sin is that it's a magic curse God put on Adam and Eve, allowed John to purge, and exempted Mary from. God does not work magic, He much grander and more subtle than that.

We need to recognize that God is vastly grander than anything our natural philosophy could imagine, and instead of trying to interpret everything He said in terms of natural claims about the natural world, recognize His philosophical and metaphorical arguments.

Sin is when we turn away from what God wants. Christ died because the Pharisees wanted to shut Him down for their own venal reasons and Pilate didn't do his job. Naturalists sound like they believe in karma when they say He paid our karmic debt.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end.

0610d4  No.802644

>>801863

>The current Catholic view of original sin is that it's a magic curse God put on Adam and Eve

No its not you fool. It is much more complex than that and definitely not a "magic curse".


d72e36  No.802646

>The current Catholic view of original sin is that it's a magic curse God put on Adam and Eve

It is not a "curse", it is an objective status of human nature. In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were united with God in absolute perfection, because He is perfection. When they sinned, they were separated from God until they could be redeemed by Christ.

If you've ever wondered why birth defects and other abnormalities plague us, it is because we have fallen from perfection, and no perfection is possible without Jesus Christ. And the future perfection of the body will be in the General Resurrection of the elect; until now, we must cling to God and beg for grace for perfection of the Spirit to merit the glorified body.


c3db23  No.802647

>>802644

>tfw god was a voodoo nįgger the whole time

How could we be so blind?




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