Joseph Atwill's "Caesar's Messiah" and the Jesuits

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▶Joseph Atwill's "Caesar's Messiah" and the Jesuits Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 10:26:46 8f02cd (1) No.788276>>788282 >>788288 >>788308 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>Caesar’s Messiah is a 2005 book by Joseph Atwill, which argues that the New Testament Gospels were written as wartime propaganda by scholars connected to the Roman imperial court of the Flavian emperors: Vespasian, Titus and Domitian. According to Atwill, their primary purpose in creating the religion was to control the spread of Judaism and moderate its political virulence. The Jewish nationalist Zealots had been defeated in the First Jewish--Roman War of 70 AD, but Judaism remained an influential movement throughout the Mediterranean region. Atwill argues that the biblical character Jesus Christ is a typological representation of the Roman Emperor Titus

>As a youth, Joseph Atwill studied Greek, Latin and the Bible at St. Mary's Military Academy, a Jesuit-run school in Japan

>Jesuit

Why is the Society of Jesus Christ composed entirely of people who hate Him and subvert His teachings at every turn?

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 10:37:39 661139 (1) No.788282

>>788276 (OP)

Commies and liberals

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 10:58:37 554e6a (1) No.788288

>>788276 (OP)

>Why is the Society of Jesus Christ composed entirely of people who hate Him and subvert His teachings at every turn?

that wasnt always the case

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 11:19:17 60a058 (1) No.788292

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Looks like another attempt to make a controversial seller.

Here's an interview I listened to on Aeon Byte some years back.

Part 2

https://youtu.be/RuLJw0GR2Wk

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 12:16:17 25c734 (1) No.788302

I mean, just because he was educated at a Jesuit school doesn’t mean it was his Jesuit teachers who corrupted him and put those bad ideas in his head.

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 12:27:02 31b812 (1) No.788303>>788331

This is retarded. Judaism was not an influence outside Jewish diaspora themselves. The idea that they had pervasive influence is absolutely not based on any historical fact. If that was the case, they would have had one of their own people as leaders (and not some Edomite, like Herod). And people would care that they were nearly decimated in AD 70 - but the world at large didn't care. And top it off, and this makes it even more retarded: The destruction of the Jewish people actually caused them to spread out even further into the world to find a home. So if you were trying to suppress them and keep their influence at bay, then this was totally self-defeating.

And then the ultimate cherry on top: Christianity itself eventually conquered Rome and completely reshaped it into it's own image. If this was supposed to be some master plan for the emperors to shoot themselves (stab themselves?) in their own foot, then I don't understand.

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 12:41:24 a92abc (2) No.788308

>>788276 (OP)

Why is this bullshit so popular?

Every time(and i'm not even talking only about Christianity here), you get some retard doing some Zeitgeist-tier "X roughly looks like Y from half a millennia earlier, if you close one eye and squint, so X is Y!"

▶Christanon 03/25/19 (Mon) 14:23:45 090cb3 (1) No.788331

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>>788303

>If this was supposed to be some master plan for the emperors to shoot themselves (stab themselves?) in their own foot, then I don't understand.

▶Christanon 03/26/19 (Tue) 14:51:17 b24448 (2) No.788668>>788669 >>788775

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Remember

>The Christ myth theory is a fringe theory, supported by few tenured or emeritus specialists in biblical criticism or cognate disciplines. It is criticised for its outdated reliance on comparisons between mythologies, and deviates from the mainstream historical view.

Practically no other atheistic scholars take these goofs seriously, to the point of even Bart D. Errorman ripping into Atwill . He's not as much of a kook as Dorothy Milne Murdock/Acharya S, but that's hardly a high bar to clear.

Seriously, look her up, her 'theories' are hilarious.

The historicity of Christ was a legitimate discussion in the mid-18th and 19th centuries, and was eventually resolved in the favour of the truth we'd already held. All that's left is the atheist equivalent to flat earthers doing a better impression of the 'obstinate fanatic who refuses to accept reality' than we ever could.

As concerns the Jesuits, pic related.

▶Christanon 03/26/19 (Tue) 14:56:26 a92abc (2) No.788669

>>788668

>pic related

St. Peter Damian!?

The guy that ripped into 11th century pedos, priests with mistresses and other sexually corrupt clergy?

He just becomes more based every time i hear about him.

t. ortho

▶Christanon 03/26/19 (Tue) 22:47:26 0d56bf (1) No.788775>>788811

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