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>>784013

Go to confession and repent from your sins than start praying the rosary on the daily. You'll feel like God never left you because you will always be close to Him.

>>784015

This vain hope is exactly what Luther pursued harder than anyone, and found nothing at the end.

Christianity is not about ritual, it's about grace.

>>784034

Faith alone doesn't get you that grace bud. God tells us to pray the Rosary. Just because you believe in the tradition of a man named Luther doesn't give you the right to derail a thread.

>>784040

When does God tell us to pray the Rosary? are you adding to the scripture?

http://www.catholictreasury.info/books/imitation_of_Christ/im64.php

>>784050

That doesn't answer the question

>>784052

You think the magisterium is what inspires your mind when you read scripture

Catholics think the magesterium is God acting through his Church who also taught scripture is inspired that we have to submit to

you guys disagree we get it this thread isn't the place for it

>>784057

Where? How did He tell us?

>>784062

And you understand this to be special revelation from God?

>>784065

I already explained can you not read we have different views of how God teaches

You think God primarily teaches through your reading of scripture.

We think God founded an institution, he didn't write a book, and through that institution things can be taught that we think are free from error. The idea of scripture existing at all is a product of that magisterium (teaching authority).

Though I'm also Catholic he is wrong, it has never been taught dogmatically we should pray the Rosary, it's possible for a Catholic to reject it and all it's visions but I think it would be stupid for them too.

Many Popes have with some degree of authority taught we should pray the rosary though, just not infallibly so.

>>784062

>>784065

but you two stop fighting this isn't the place for this we know you disagree, have some modesty

>>784069

>>784070

only asking questions.

Just for clarification I do not, nor do any non-charismatic protestants, believe that I have special illumination beyond what the text indicates, and only claim that my reading is truth as far as it is aligned with scripture. This is the point of sola scriptura, not relativism.

>>784082

Yep, that's idolatry

>>784083

Mary didn't give us the Rosary for her own glory, but rather as a tool for Christians to meditate on the life of Jesus. Why is meditating on the life of Jesus idolatry?

>>784013

You should defienetly make room for God in your life. You don't have to pray a rosary like everyone is saying but you can just pray normally and read the bible. If you have a break at work you can use that time to read the bible a bit. On your way home from work or while your working if you are allowed you can have worship music playing or a recording of a church sermon.

>>784164

It's the Grand Inquisitor… agreed.

>>784172

Ding ding ding, your Whore of Babylon Church also fell to communism.

>>784180

what? where? when?

>>784197

>Francis just made a communist from El Salvador saint.

who? if you mean St. Romero, he wasn't a communist.

>Holy Russia was stabbed in the back by revolutionaries while the Tsar and his armies were stuck in a world war.

oh, so it's a weirdo pseudo christian nationalist thing going on.

>>784201

Vatican II.

>>784172

the Church didn't fall into communism but the Empire did. Minor, yet extremely important difference.

>>784203

It fell, and then "restored" by Stalin staffing it full of KGB.

>>784202

what does Vatican II have to do with communism? or you that nutjob that claimed vatican II caused contraception too?

did you stub your toe today? vatican II. girlfriend leave you? vatican II.

>>784206

Vatican II introduced the insanity of communism into the church, with the welcome of all religions and pure heresy.

>>784204

Just like the "Holy Roman Empire" was "restored" by Leo III :^)

>>784201

Romero was a communist who told anti-communist soldiers to disobey their orders and let socialist revolutionaries take over. He probably caused the deaths of several many people.

Liberation theology is heresy.

>>784206

Vatican II is an uncontrolled dumpster fire that keeps on giving.

https://novusordowatch.org/2019/03/ash-wednesday-of-artists-cologne/

>>784213

Indeed.

Both church are shams.

>>784214

>Romero was a communist who told anti-communist soldiers to disobey their orders and let socialist revolutionaries take over. He probably caused the deaths of several many people.

proofs? if i remember correctly, he was assassinated conducting Mass for going on the radio and reporting "missing persons" live on air

>Liberation theology is heresy.

he didn't espouse liberation theology as we know it today, he was murdered before it became a progressive inroad into the Church

>>784215

Denying the Seat of St. Peter will only lead you to a dumpster fire, an eternal one.

>>784217

The Seat of Peter is in Antioch.

What the holy winnie the pooh does it have to do with Rome?

>>784219

the seat of peter is in rome, and has been for over 2,000 years. speaking to a deaf man is difficult, as Sirarch tells us.

>>784217

Wrong.

https://www.radioaryan.com/2018/10/the-orthodox-nationalist-saint-oscar.html

Novus Ordo is an uncontrolled dumpster fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWo-7uVR8yI

>>784221

Peter was also Bishop of Antioch. Why isn't that the rock of Peter?

>>784172

>Communism

>error of Russia

>developed by German Jew in capital of the most judeophilic nation in Europe

>imposed on eastern Europe by disproportionately Jewish-led revolutionary organizations

>financed by London and Wall Street banker Jews like Schiff and Warburg

Literally what did she mean by this?

>>784233

Yes it's true that russians didn't create communism, but it was Russia that spread it..she isn't blaming the russian people, but the revolutionary state that DID spread and impose her errors in eastern europe, that's my interpreation.

>>784238

How could something imposed by totalitarian force be an error?

If what happened in Russia happened in Germany or Spain you would probably have the same thing with communists filling the churches with informers and agents. There would be an underground Catholic church et cetera. Just like there was an underground, legitimate Orthodox church under the USSR.

Also secular democracy is just as repugnant as Marxism. It is a Tower of Babel built without God.

>>784238

You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the (((perpetrators))).

-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

>>784224

>radioaryan

nice

>Peter was also bishop of antioch

Peter's direct successor was always in Rome, if you really think Antioch is the real Seat, why do you not go the other direction and argue for Antiochian supremacy in the larperDox communion?

>>784244

>Radioaryan

Dr. Raphael Johnson is a professional researcher and former university professor. He is a priest and historian of the Russian Orthodox church. I would not link a source here that is not top notch.

>>784243

I agree about Luther.

What I meant about totalitarianism is that it was used against Russians so it's difficult to blame them for "spreading" communism. Nobody had a choice under that totalitarian regime.

>>784311

>various heresies

Like Vatican II?

>Peter

St. Paul also saved Peter from judaizing heresy. I don't see how his success in business makes him worthy of being a dictator over the other apostles. Christians are taught to not be of this world anyway.

Also Peter was Bishop of Antioch before Rome… why not Antioch?

>Successful armies can't have two leaders

Christ is the only head of the Church.

Was St. Gregory the Great lying there? What's your point?

Also just look at the track record of the Vatican up to Francis. I mean Francis is just a clown.

>>784304

>What's wrong with the first among equals interpretation?

First of all, it's completely democratic! If you actually look the term itself, it comes from Roman forms of governments (and even later on, to modern democratic philosophy).

For a bunch of guys who like to finger-wag Latins for "roman paganism" (perhaps, not you, but certainly others), the Orthodox have no issue with using Roman Political theory, seems kind of hypocritical.

As for your quotes, nobody denies that Christ is the supernatural, invisible, supreme Head of the True Church, but Christ Himself declared that He would build a Church, and it would be upon Cephas. As to the function of Christ's Church, and Cephas, both would be "given the power to loosen and bind on Heaven and Earth". One working in concert with the other. Primacy. A servant given the keys, it will make sense if one ponders on it.

As for the apparent disconnect between your quotes, you should do a bit more reading. A "universal bishop", would be a Bishop whom is Bishop over all, the Pope is the big red stamp on matters of the Church, but the Pope in Rome is not, at the same time, Bishop of other places.

>>784307

>Dr. Raphael Johnson is a professional researcher and former university professor. He is a priest and historian of the Russian Orthodox church.

Surely he is doing himself a disservice then. Are slavs even aryan? The Germans, the Russians, didn't they fight a war or something?

>>784339

>Like Vatican II?

Vatican II is not heretical.

>Christians are taught to not be of this world anyway.

Then you must realize Christ made a mistake when He gave His Church and Cephas the authority to bind and loosen things on Heaven and Earth, right?

>Also Peter was Bishop of Antioch before Rome… why not Antioch?

Because there cannot be more than one "seat", and there cannot be one "seat" in more than two places, otherwise the Church would be exposed to power plays (more than She already was, anyway).

>I mean Francis is just a clown.

Then pray for him, if you feel this way.

>>784362

>democratic

Having a council of bishops come together to hash out an issue is how the church of the first 1000 years worked, like it or not.

>Cephas

Why Rome particularly? Why there? Did they just draw straws? Why not Antioch?

If you don't think Vatican II changed doctrine, you need to take another look.

>>784369

My church told me the same thing. Apparently if I reject Vatican II for being modernist heresy destroying the church, I am now in schism according to them.

Here's a handy primer to how they messed up:

http://holyromancatholicchurch.org/heresies.html

>Two places

Why Rome and why not Antioch? Still haven't answered the question.

>>784342

enjoy having no religion

>>784238

>(((Soviet Union)))

>Russia

Pick one.

God has never left you, you've distanced yourself from Him.

>>784028

>the virgin tilelet

>the chad backpacker

What an excelent microcosm of this hellhole of a board

Someone meekly asking for help and in comes sectarian sh!tflinging instantly

Good job people