/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

No censorship at >>>/christianity/

>Bible idolaters

Kek, this is statue worship cope

>>774121

/prot/ is the only one with that purpose, but it never got off the ground it looks like

Nah, Christian is good except for the mods,newfags and some censorship but overall it's good and better than heretical boards.

>>774127

>>774121

This is the only good Christianity-related board because it doesn't allow Gnostics, Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, or other cults.

>>774130

"other cults" meaning protestants

Protestants are just mad that they always get btfo'd. That doesn't mean that it's a Catholic echo chamber

>>774121

/christ/ is the oldest of the bunch, having been on 8ch since the beginning.. /christianity/ is actually a split off board. There's also /catholic/, but it's pretty dead except for a "Saint of the Day" thing.

>>774121

>atheist shithole like r/christianity,

Nani?

>>774131

Nope.

>>774132

Also nope.

>>774136

Half their mods are atheists and if you look in the threads the only upvoted comments are the ones with the flairs that say things like "LGBT Ally" or "Christian Atheist". All ofnthe downvoted ones are ones with flairs like "Roman Catholic", "Orthodox", "Lutheran", or "Baptist". Basically you get down voted into reddit hell if you profess actual christian values instead of regurgitating progressive crypto-satanic shit like they want you too. Even though the interdenominational banter here can be annoying at times, that cesspool makes me appreciate this place a thousand times more. I'd rather get called a heretic by a trad cat than a racist nazi by an "LGBT Ally Christian Atheist".

>>774140

What's the point of that subreddit then?

>>774143

It is "about Christianity", not "for Christians".

>>774118

>it's Luther all over again

Sasuga prots.

I don't understand threads like this. It's as if you people are utterly unfamiliar with imageboards and, in particular, 8chan; I mean, have you only been here for six months?

You are free to make your own board. Aside form that, you are free to do what you want on the internet, which, might I add, is a big place; /christian/ is a tiny little corner. Indeed, this board has a Catholic bent—and I will agree that, as of late, many Catholic posters have taken on an antiecumenical pose, so to speak. It is noticeable compared to even six months ago.

Making threads about your metatopical opinions won't achieve anything. Just go to >>>/christ/ or >>>/prot/ already and stop wasting everyone else's time.

>>774178

it's an invitation to the other protestants of the board

ONE BOARD,

UNDER GOD

I don't particular agree with your assertion. The way Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants interact on this board has been, at least from my limited exposure, pretty good. Sometimes there's a few cheeky jabs at one another, and rarely there's two or three persons who get into real verbal fights, but compared to other mediums this board is very calm in its discourse.

>>774143

Subversion

>>774123

>he worships a book

>claims to have moral authority

I'm laughing. Laughing at your failure to exist as you worship something that is corrupt.

>>774190

>he's incapable of self awareness

>he doesn't know the implicit criticism and doubles down to prove the pointf

>split the board apart because people cant stop trash talking other denominations

are the people hating others because theyre not the right kind of christian even christians themselves?

>>774118

I can't say its failed, granted there are plenty of people with bad will whether intentional or not on the board but theres still plenty of proper discussion between Christanons of all denoms.

As far as I'm aware there isn't another place like this aside from the few other christian boards on 8ch that aren't entirely full of atheists and other demon worshippers, if you take a look at places like /pol/ it can get much, much worse, in terms of discussion being completely shutdown.

That being said, everyone should try to be more charitable to each other on this board, a body cannot stand divided against itself and the powers that be are only going to start persecuting us more as time carries on.

>>774118

Christians should never fall to meta tricks to divide and conquer. The differences should be worked out by first beating the demons out of pedos and then marxists. Only then, will we have a world Jesus would want to come back to. Amen.

>>774198

What does that have to do with imageboards

>>774118

>the splinter is a mere shadow of the original

Have we learned nothing from history?

>>774239

Is that why mainline denominations are thriving and holding fast to the traditional doctrines as compared to newer evangelicalism?

>>774239

That's not always true. /christ/ is the oldest board. You are currently using the splinter.

Hosnestly all the in fighting with Catholics and Prods is saddening. Obviously banters is mandatory on any image board, but it gets almost /pol/ levels of vitrial here. We're all supposed to be brothers/sisters in Christ, right? If someone is led astray, wouldn't the loving thing to do be pointing them in the right direction, not just call them a faggot?

And if you are just here to hurl insults… idk, kystbhfam

>>774265

We are not brothers. Catholics do not profess the same gospel by grace through faith not of works as I do, and as the Bible does.

>>774140

>Christian atheist

I'd question why abominations like that exist, but the truth is we probably brought it upon ourselves with our complacency. Still doesn't mean people claiming simultaneously to be Christian and nonreligous at the same time doesn't make my blood boil. "Cultural Christians" were a mistake.

>>774269

How many times are you going to say this

We as Catholics understand it to grace alone.

>>774292

sola gratia but not sola fide

This has been going on since the board was created. Just Protestants and Catholics shitting on each other 24/7. Was pretty one sided until the Baptists showed up and Duke Nukem'd it. It'll be fine. My biggest worry is the large amount of atheists/LARPers derailing threads without being warned or banned. Not sure if the ownership has changed since the second guy, but it never got this bad.

>>774121

don't forget >>>/kjv/

>>774292

>>774297

no. Salvation is not by grace alone, grace is absolutely essential, but it is not alone. To say it is by grace alone is to say it is solely by the will of God alone that you are justified - it is to deny the directions of your own will had anything to do with it. But if our will has nothing to do with our salvation, then we have no free will, or whatever free will we do have is essentially meaningless. So it is not grace alone.

>>774342

Why do you think free will exists to begin with?

>>774342

>Salvation is not by grace alone, grace is absolutely essential, but it is not alone. To say it is by grace alone is to say it is solely by the will of God alone that you are justified

John 15:16

>You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.

> it is to deny the directions of your own will had anything to do with it.

I don't know how you interpret those words, but in case you're going off-track - Semipelagianism is a heresy.

>>774190

>Word of God is corrupt

Wew lad, keep rationalizing the next news of abuse and heresy

>>774380

Sorry, I forgot to say:

Although you are right about free will.

>>774375

Even Calvin did not deny free will…

>>774190

Speaking as someone who has had posts deleted by the mods, posts that contained nothing but scripture, this post right here is the one that most deserves to be.

And the funny thing is, since I know the mods agree with it, they won't ban or delete it.

"We are strangers in a foreign land that doesn't welcome us."

In all English speaking nations Catholics are currently in the minority. feeling like that is how I feel on a daily basis dealing with protestant BS shouted at me. I honestly couldn't care less if prots stay or go, but I just find it very ironic that you're all complaining about feeling in the minority.

We're Catholics living in a puritanical empire and YOU feel persecuted? LOL.

>>774494

We're not talking about nation states, we're talking about this board.

Protestants are a persecuted minority here.

>>774503

The whole point of Fullchan in general is for the very fringe of society from what I've seen. Being a devout practicing Catholic and/or Orthodox Christian in an English speaking country is far less common than any form of Protestantism. We have virtually no representation in government, when we do people use our religion as a point against us, we are stigmatized in education and the media and nobody bats an eye, and we are attacked by both the left and the right on a regular basis because our beliefs are simultaneously too conservative and not conservative enough.

I don't care if YOU aren't talking about nations and states. I am. Like I said I feel free to stay or go, but spare me the alligator tears about feeling isolated and picked on, in one spot on the internet. You want a protestant escape? Go to any other "christian" affiliated site anywhere and it will be an evangelical echo chamber. That's part of the whole reason I started coming here in the first place.

I've enjoyed having shouting matches with protestants in a place where I don't really have to worry about backlash, but nothing of value would be lost to me if y'all decided to bounce. The only feeling of loss would be seeing you all continue down a false path.

>>774506

ok, so you were just making a blog post not talking about the topic at hand. That's fine.

>>774508

>ok, so you were just making a blog post not talking about the topic at hand.

I literally said feel free to leave. I wouldn't discourage it. I was just giving reasons as to why I don't care if you do. Basically the nice way of saying "Cry more".

If the OP didn't make his post all "baaawh, woe is me!", I would have been more direct. The whole persecution angle just annoyed me though, speaking as a Catholic living in a W.A.S.P.'s nest.

>>774494

This. I am in catholic-majority country and even I hear how "reformation was inevitable, necessary, good, etc".

>>774503

>babbles in heresy

>calls the True church "whore of Babylon"

>oy vey why cannot we live peacefully with you.

Wait you call for "peace" when you still attack Mary/proper worship "idolatry" and literally accuse the church of being "whore of babylon"?

Sorry that does not seem to me that you want to live peacefully next to each other.

I am not saying I want ecumenism. Hell no. But please….please stop acting as a "victim" while you attack also. It is cringe and frankly that's the reason why I cannot take you seriously. If you want to challenge the order, go for it. Just do not oy vey when the other side takes the same stance.

It seems you prots think you have every right to spout anything without the other side taking the initiative also. Explain to me why I should care about your screeching if you call me a folower of "whore of babylon".

As the other anon said, cry harder

The cold hard ugly truth of why the split off boards have failed and stagnated for the most part, boils down to these factors:

1. A little over-moderation is ultimately preferable to under-moderation. Even when the mods here sometimes overstep their bounds, it's still preferable to the chaos and rampant heresy on other split off boards. When someone like >>774120 brags about "no censorship", they might as well be subconsciously bragging about "a board full of kooks and weirdness." Radical free-speech, like communism and libertarianism, sounds great on paper and in theory, but in practice is an utter dumpster fire.

2. Most people are creatures of comfort and habit. Even as people whine about mods on here, ultimately, the post counts, unique IPs, and traffic on this board speak for themselves. Most people's responses to some of the more questionable antics of the of the mods might as well be them saying "thank you sir, may I have another", rather than try to start over again on a strange, slow, chaotic split off board. There was even that one time this board tried to start a christian exclusive image board split off from 8chan itself, to be free off the ads, as well as the spill over from other trolling degenerate boards on this site. To my knowledge it no longer exists, and people are still here.

>>774503

>>774525

I am not trying to be mean but I am fed up with people who punch acting as they're the only victims. And seriously..since I hear heresy all the time irl it would be nice to have a place to come to. since I have already established your faith to be a heresy….I do not need to hear "sola X" for the 684864x time. So frankly I do not care if you stay.

>>774515

>that cartoon

>Bigotry

>>774545

I know you guys have it rough. Compared to you it's like a cakewalk for us. No doubt. Even considering that however you sometimes hear from catholics that protestantism is valid. Those lukewarm catholics are even practicing here. That;s really off putting tbh.

>stats.

I do not believe those stats

>Between the left wing bias in education and the evangelical bias on the right, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't in this country.

You're absolutely right. In my country we are in the "keep your faith to yourself behind closed door" phase. That means just right behind you. The next stage will be front attack on catholicism here. In fact it is already in place it is just denied and labeled as "muh tolerance". No tolerance however is showed when my faith is concerned. It is always us who is asked to give the ground so there is not a clash

>>774559

The abortion battle in US is quite an interesting thing. Conveniently…prots never mentioned it because it does not speak well about protestantism

>>774558

The third picture could very well be labeled as "americanism" and it would be correct for the most part

>>774561

cry harder

>>774564

about what?

>>774561

>tfw full blown heretics like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses make the rest of us look like a bunch of lukewarm scrubs on the issue of abortion.

>>774561

>>774609

Again, one of the annoying parts about stats in the US for Catholicism and Orthodoxy alike is that they tend to include people who are Catholic or Orthodox in a purely cultural sense rather than exclusively those who are actually practicing. The stats make Catholicism and Orthodoxy seem more liberal than Protestantism when in reality the actual doctrines of each church are more conservative than most forms of Protestantism. You're taught that abortion=infanticide and I've never heard single priest say it is allowed under any circumstances (not even the Jesuits I've met), but because of lukewarmness you get statistics like that.

>>774672

You don't need statistics to find official doctrine, that's freely available. The survey data only claims to represent how self-reporting members of each group feel about each issue.

>>774679

I'm aware. I was more so just saying that the stats don't take into account whether somebody is actually practicing or not since it's self-reported. Again like I said earlier, there are tons of nonpracticing Catholics who still identify with the church. I know several, and it's frustrating because some of them are just straight up agnostic, but still identify with Catholicism for some reason.

>>774672

>>774709

True. But it still makes me wonder: Do we have so much lukewarmness in our churches due to the inevitability of having some lukewarmness by virtue of sheer numbers? Or is there something else more worrisome going on?

>>774754

I think it depends on where you go. Outside of Ireland, most historically Catholic European countries are still fairly fervent, as are most non-European catholic presences. The problem is in countries like the US, Canada, Australia, Britain, etc. we have a variety of external political and societal forces pushing people in different directions away from the church. Like I said in my first posts, there's a lot of open hostility towards Catholicism in the western world post-reformation, enlightenment, and the spread of political extremism. We're effectively one of if not the only religion that both sides of the political spectrum are actively hostile towards.

>>774488

Because it rightly points out the hipocrisy and retardation of iconolasts

>>774767

because it calls the bible corrupt

>>774190

>>774123

Guys, STAHP

can't we just get along? I disagree with my catholic brothers on some topics but we need to stick together to keep this community strong.

>>774506

>We have virtually no representation in government

Roman Catholics on the US Supreme Court:

John Roberts

Clarence Thomas

Samuel Alito

Sonia Sotomayor

Brett Kavanaugh

Neil Gorsuch (raised Catholic, now Episcopalian)

Groups never on the Supreme Court: Pentecostals, Orthodox Christians, Mormons, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Sikhs.

Long-time Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill? Apparently non-Catholic. "Lion of the Senate," alcoholic girl-killer and serial girl-molester Ted Kennedy? Apparently non-Catholic.

I have long thought Marxists unconsciously strive to re-create a funhouse mirror of the Roman Catholic church, with political correctness instead of morality, and public groveling (instead of private penance) when its adherents fail to trim their sails to the latest iteration of the progressive stack. Not to mention the Holy Inquisition, now called the "Trust and Safety Council."

But there is one aspect of Catholicism the Marxists adopted without alteration: the insufferable whining at having to share entire countries with filthy Protestant heretics–er, reactionaries.

:-P

Is this the ecumenical thread? I'm an outsider to the religion but there are questions I have about ecumenical groups in general and I feel as though /christian/ is the best board to ask obviously.

Do you have any fairly quick reads, such as blog entries or written online articles, about the potential benefits of the ecumenical approach? How about materials that criticize them. Are there well documented cases where these groups were hives of bad actors? Does anything point to them being magnets for bad actors?

Thank you for your patience.

>>774558

I was pointing out the use of the word "Bigotry" as used by friendly neighborhood marxists.

>>774123

So what do you call it when Steven Anderson stands up and says that the Bible is literally God?

I'll happily share a board with sincere Christians, whether or not they disagree with me.

I refuse to be hospitable to larpers; the orthofag /pol/scum. Can we just make an ebin larp board to contain them there

This board is a bit older than some standard chan ones yet is still slower than them.

I don't know why you don't go to /his/ or /lit/ where you could get more in the way of theological discourse. The higher popularity of the site would mean one is defended just as if not maybe even more zealously by other anons from thread derailers and shitposters, and without "censorship", "upvoting", or the need for a safespace.

There are even threads on there on how unproductive this place is, but to be clear this thread could or rather appears to be another attempt to divide and draw people away from here as well.

>>775724

>it will vanish in Europe and I can bet I’m gonna be proven right.

Wow, way to stand strong in the faith...

Living here in the states, the European American communities are far from "in name only" Catholics. Most of the Catholics here are of Polish, Irish, Italian and Ukrainian descent here. Cleveland, Ohio, though technically I'm from Parma (obviously not the Italian one though) I singled out Ireland because of the relatively recent abortion ruling there. It might even be that the Euro-Americans are more fervent here because of the generally negative attitude taken towards Catholicism here.

I'm not expecting most Catholics to be experts in theology though dude. The fact that there's even an attempt made is more than what we get in the US. It's not like every protestant is an expert either We have 20% of the US population, and about 30-40% of those are nonpracticing.

>>774269

It hurts me that you actually believe this.

>>775782

>Holding hope is what brought me to despair.

Shall we receive the good from the Lord without also receiving the bad?

>Most Catholics will defect for the Orthodox Church: already happening in Italy.

Maybe in Europe... but statistically speaking, while Orthodoxy is growing, it's not at a rate fast enough to keep in step with population growth.

>>775778

Tell me I'm wrong without contradicting Catholicism.

Your catechism claims that one cannot be saved without observing the sacraments. I say the opposite, that placing trust in salvation through these works is a false gospel that is unsaving. These positions are mutually exclusive.

>>775788

It saddens ME that you were taught such an errant and slothful version of the faith. Baptism, the Eucharist *Transubstantiated of course** , confirmation, etc. all have their basis in scripture.

>>775788

I'm a prot, friend. It hurts me that you would say they aren't your brothers, even though we're all here striving for Christ.

>>775791

>I’m convinced all is lost

If you are convinced then surely it will happen, but with faith, hope, and love even that which seems impossible is within reach.

>>775793

Spoiler failure :^(

>>775794

This.

>Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

>>775794

John 1:12-13 KJV — But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

We have contradicting doctrine on how to be received, which is what earns you the title of child of God and by relation entry into the brotherhood.

I'm not being spiteful, I'm recognizing the facts. Any honest Catholic should say the same thing.

Even further we are not all striving for Christ. Even if Catholics did evangelism, anyone who would be saved from it would find salvation in spite of the Catholic false gospel.

>>775836

Expound

>>775839

About the first or the second? The first is because they themselves separate away from us and make manifest the difference due to the fact they didn't receive the word gladly, but rather they dispute and contradict against what the scripture says. If there was a unity of cause then this wouldn't have happened.

Second is the fact that only a good tree will bear good fruit and in the same passage we are told that by their fruit we shall know them. In other words, you can't have an unsaved person cause someone to be saved, it can only be one way. So while I agreed with your overall point, I stressed the fact that they really can't effect the Gospel if they themselves have a false gospel, and as Galatians 1:9 says, they should not be equivocated with saved people.

Now, maybe if you are part of an unscriptural group of people you might still disagree but if you believe the above scriptures you will act in accordance with them. You certainly won't try to contradict them. I'm just saying that as a general statement. People who toss the word of God under the bus and follow some manmade tradition, such as Catholics, are wrong. See Mark 7:7-13 for the reasoning.

>>775845

Solid

>>774381

KJV and all other Protestant bibles for that matter are corrupt to one degree or another. Missing several entire books of the Holy Bible is a red flag. Not to mention mistranslations intentional and otherwise.

>>774118

People from this board will attack the other Christian boards. They don't want competition, it seems. There was some Catholic guy who made 20 threads attacking baptists over at /christ/. The one time I made a good thread over there to help it pickup, someone from this board just copied the OP and posted it here, hijacking the conversation. I go to entirely different sites for fellowship now, only posting on 8chan intermittently.

>>776141

>People from this board will attack the other Christian boards. They don't want competition, it seems.

My experience on /christ/ was just a bunch of Gnostics (and other heretical sects) and Atheists criticizing Christians and baptists complaining about this board.

>>775845

Funny. I was thinking the same thing but in reverse. Hint: the nonscriptural group is Protestants and other heretics and the scriptural group is Catholic. Funny how your pride plays tricks on you like that. Not funny haha. Just funny like a tool of the devil funny.

>>776294

As someone who came into the faith blind, to me there was more of a scriptural and historical basis for Catholicism/Orthodoxy than Protestantism.

>>774118

We should have sub-boards, like christian/orthoprot and christian/babylon.

>>774120

This is pretty great too.

>>776335

>We should have sub-boards, like christian/orthoprot and christian/babylon.

>Implying they like Orthos anymore than they like Catholics

Wew

>>776306

Same

Reminder that fighting between Catholics and protestants is literally inspired by Satan. We're all brothers in Christ and we should celebrate what we have in common. This board is the one lily among a sea of otherwise degenerate garbage and we shouldn't let differences ruin it.

>>776915

>>774269

>>776915

Reminder that Catholics were there original Protestants. You reap what you sow.

>>776915

John said to Jesus,

"Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name,

and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us."

Jesus replied, "Do not prevent him.

There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name

who can at the same time speak ill of me.

For whoever is not against us is for us."

>>777165

>>777162

>triggered

now now, I know my catholicbros get touchy about this, but let's not pretend like Rome's decision making didn't play a major role in leading to both the East-West Schism and the Protestant Reformation. Many of you guys are perfectly willing to acknowledge and criticize the Vatican's recent controversies, so I don't know what the big deal is in recognizing it's role in those other two major events as well.

>inb4 b-but it was due to politics!

Not an excuse. You can be a devout Catholic without defending corrupt leadership.

>inb4 b-but the East did it too!

yeah… in response to Rome cucking to the questionable Franks first.

>inb4 b-but Martin Luther was an autistic heretic

sure, but it's not like all of his critiques were invalid.

>>774118

this board was instrumental in begoming cathliggg :DD dont under estimate ecumenicism

>>777190

I spoke with enough Orthodox believers from Romania, Bulgaria and Russia to know enough about the corruption in their own Churches; I am Catholic because I believe that to be the true Church. Feel free to disagree.

As per Martin Luther, I counterpoint with St. Francis of Assisi, who pointed out many of the same issues but had no need to create such a rift. Same goes for the Orthos.

I have no hope of reunification, thus I pray us "papists" will fix the mess we have in our hands.

>>777303

I've already talked about this in another recent thread, but we don't deny that there was a need for reform. Most of the Counter-Reformation ironically involved reforms, as well as reaffirmations of our moral and theological tenants. So I suppose in a way we can indirectly thank the reformation for saving the church from total decline. You guys indirectly gave us figures like St. Teresa of Ávila, St. John of the Cross, St. Francis de Sales, all three of whom are considered Doctors of the Church St. Ignatius of Loyola, St. Charles Borromeo, St. Philip Neri, etc.

By the late middle ages/renascence the moral quality of the church/clergy was definitely in decline, due in no small part to the church's political standing being given precedent over all else for years. Between the crusades, tithing, turning a blind eye to moral corruption, and playing favorites to monarchs for the sake of political benefit, the church was in dire straits by that point. There were a few meaningful doctors and saints, but overall it wasn't looking too great.

The problem is, Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli and the rest's reforms changed theology and doctrine on a level so drastic that it altered the very foundations of the church. They wouldn't be considered heretical by both Catholics and Orthodox were that not the case.

Unlike anon however, I do still hope for some form of reunification. I'd say reunification with the Orthodox would be good for the church, but I'm not sure Eastern Catholics would appreciate it, and rightfully so tbh. I think the only Protestant branch that really has any hope of reunification atm would be the Anglicans, but even then there are a fair amount of issues getting in the way of that. There was a bit of progress back in the Oxford moment, but most of that has been reversed at this point.

>>777303

>I spoke with enough Orthodox believers from Romania, Bulgaria and Russia to know enough about the corruption in their own Churches

But of course, we're both still rehabs for sinners after all.

>I am Catholic because I believe that to be the true Church. Feel free to disagree.

You do you brother, I've got no problems with that. I just do some light ribbing because I think it's important to recognize the faults of our institutions. Also, the poetic justice of the Reformation is just too rich to pass up from the Eastern perspective whenever you guys are squabbling with protties. lol.

>As per Martin Luther, I counterpoint with St. Francis of Assisi, who pointed out many of the same issues but had no need to create such a rift.

Sure, but one might also argue that perhaps the rift itself was necessary to give the church a swift kick in the pants and prevented things from getting worse. Not sure how tenable that interpretation is given how everything's unfolded, but hey, might as well make lemonade with those lemons.

>I have no hope of reunification, thus I pray us "papists" will fix the mess we have in our hands.

I don't expect much unification happening in my lifetime either, but I like to believe you guys and the protties both have your own roles to play in bringing everyone back to the church somehow. Lord knows we orthos ain't doing much in the way of apologetics or evangelizing compared to you guys in the West. And you guys are probably better equipped to start chipping away at all that rampant secularism/liberalism the world is suffering from anyway with that fancy heretical scholasticism y'all take part in.

I picture it like the Orthodox are the main recycling facility, while Catholics and Protestants are independent contractors working as garbage men cleaning up the streets, before eventually (begrudgingly) bringing all the materials back to the main plant. That's probably unrealistic and heretical af, but at least I'm not an ecumenist!

I have a proposal: the baptist funposters should attempt to colonize /b/. It's unmoderated anyways and it would actually be an improvement to whatever degeneracy they have right now.

>>777484

>Baptists ought to colonize /b/

It would be the first and only prot miracle if Baptists can mass convert the degenerates on /b/

Please, andersonite Baptists, please do this.