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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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4a6b33  No.761941

Does Christianity have any position on autism beyond the personl opinions of Christians? What about the neurodivergent movement, which holds that autism does not need to be cured?

https://twitter.com/autisticpriest

https://themighty.com/2018/02/autistic-and-eastern-orthodox/

Some positions, though they are held by the individual, not necessarily representative of the whole Church.

96d158  No.761959

No church needs a view on autism


d1d685  No.761978

>>761941

>What about the neurodivergent movement?

I knew a guy who said they were SJW identity mongers, that's the main issue I have and I heard this from a friend who has autism, the other issue is that "neurodivergent" identity isn't a good excuse for failing to integrate socially. I was a tad abnormal as a child, but my parents made the right decision for my future in refusing to tolerate it.


4a6b33  No.761985

>>761978

I'm not sure what to think to be honest. I never felt it made me that different, and I just learned to socialize later then others. Acting out was my own problem.

I don't think I need to be cured, but I also don't want to be lumped in with liberal tolerancetarianism and I see how how other disorders like sex changes are being marketed as something to be celebrated, and I don't want to be promoting something harmful either.


4da3be  No.762015

>>761941

It's a disorder, brought about by the Fall. If it can be cured or prevented or have the risk reduced (ethically), it should be. There are blind SJWs sho claim blindness should not be cured, like it would be genocide against 'blind culture' or something. I see the 'neurodivergent' movement the same way. You can't take these people seriously. Obviously autists should be treated with respect the same as hermaphrodites, blind people, deaf people, lame people, retarded people, or people with any other disorder or defect. But it's still a negative thing to have any of these conditions.


cc81eb  No.762234

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What's /christian/'s opinion on Eugenics? Personally I think the retarded and those with body and mental diseases that cannot be cured by modern science/medicine should be sterilized, and perhaps the parents as well.


dcc06b  No.762245

>>762234

Most mentally retarded people will never have the opportunity to have sex. Also the more severe someone's disbilities or defects are, the less chance they have of successfully reproducing. And for most people who have brought an abnormal or severely disabled child into the world, the last thing they want is to risk another one. So it seems like a solution in search of a problem. I don't like the idea of sterilizing people, but also it just seems unnecessary. Rewarding healthy or high IQ people who have lots of children I could get on board with, though.


6a1b55  No.762265

>>762234

Like many touchy issues, on eugenics the thing they advertise is NOT the thing they deliver. With things like this there's always the promise of a rigorous committee, which in practice is actually a rubber stamp.

A similar and more recent case is the "right to die" debate.

On the surface, the question is whether a terminally ill old man has the legal right to commit suicide. Christianity says no. But this isn't even the question in reality. The question is whether death can be prescribed to a patient; once it is prescribed it can simply be executed. If the local powers find you inconvenient then they'll just rush you off to a clinic where you'll be diagnosed and then "treated" with this system.

The eugenics controversy encompasses several things, but two key points are encouraged breeding and suppressed breeding.

With encouraged breeding, the government is paying selected people to reproduce. Sounds entirely innocent? Well when these states fall to war (as Nazi Germany did) the expanded resources are chopped back down to normal. This means lots of people suffer tremendously. Then there is suppressed breeding, aka forced contraception. The basic idea that The Magic Committee would conduct research into people's lives and make informed decisions. In reality, in USA, rape victims were sterilized for not having a husband to take care of their baby.

<We won't do this in BAD ways though

<We only use our limitless powers for GOOD!

<Trust our new bureau!

The devil lied.


aacd8a  No.762279

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>>761941

>What about the neurodivergent movement, which holds that autism does not need to be cured?

>My neuromuscular disease is fine how it is. I like not being able to hold a spoon much less walk

THAT'S the true autism.


6a1b55  No.762297

>>762279

>which holds that autism does not need to be cured?

You mean, "leave it?" How truly radical indeed.

Europe's "cure" for Down syndrome is just to abort every single baby that has it.


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10febc  No.762307

A lot of people who call themselves autists barely qualify. I've been stuck in a room with a bonafide autistic child, and he bounced up and down endlessly.. and if you even tried to touch him, he screamed at the top of his lungs.

So on one hand, I have to side with SJWs who some people "neurodivergent". But not for the reasons they'd want. I just think neurodivergent is synonymous with a sheltered, often bullied person who's never developed well.. and never graduated to.. I don't know.. having some healthy sense of coolness and self-awareness. They retreated into further behavior that got them bullied.


b50b3d  No.768090

>>762307

I'm have aspergers. and simply want to love god, get married and have kids.


723794  No.768118

>>761941

Autism can occur in different cases of severity and some forms are legitimate learning disorders that negatively impact an individual's life. The word autism is thrown around too loosely to describe particular odd and obsessive patterns of behavior and is misleading. Does someone with asperger's need to be changed? It depends if that individual feels they need to. If someone has a form of autism that makes them a perpetual infant for the rest of their life and cannot live autonomously, maybe it is up to the parents? It's not exactly euthanizing them. If one's child was born paralyzed from the waist down and there was a cure to restore their use, why not go through with the procedure?


723794  No.768120

>>762234

It's too susceptible to abuse and it is ultimately authoritarian and not from God, so no.


62980a  No.778121

>>762297

>Europe's "cure" for Down syndrome is just to abort every single baby that has it.

Correction: every baby that might have it.


b50b3d  No.780132

>>762234

that intro

I feel so bad for the poor bastards(sorry don't know of another apt word other than bastards… fellows maybe?) as an aspie it breaks my heart to see people suffer. school was brutal on me, destroyed my faith almost. I'm trying to get my feet back after all these years. I can barely focus on anything like i used to (can barely read the bible and remember more than a couple verses) /pol/ REALLY screwed me over, and the fact that anything works confounds me. i want to believe in jesus but i'm scared. everything in the world and beyond is SO strange it makes me numb. I do know one thing: I fear Hell and fear for humanity. I just want people to get along… but everyone hates each other… and it upsets me…alot


5e50fc  No.780149

>>761941

I was dxed with aspergers at 7, and honestly, I don't think it should be a big deal to people, but that is no excuse for not making a good faith attempt to overcome the problems of it, since the world doesn't cater to us. It can't be fixed or cured or stopped as its genetic, but we can improve, and such movements just make people angry at neurotypicals and bitter. I did a massive thing at Mass just now with speaking to people and getting ashes, small steps, but it can happen.


534395  No.780511

Personal Opinion: Aspergers is (((trickery))) just like the whole field of (((Psychology))) and you fools eat it up.


c59555  No.780573

>*insert mental disease* and *insert group*

This is very insulting, particularly those with actual problems. It's just prelest.




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