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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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3ef68a  No.731245

How do you counter people saying the sermon on the mount proves Christianity is cucked? Even if turn the other cheek meant something else than people use it to mean today, there are lots of verses in the sermon that sound like they are preaching weakness and cuckoldry. What arguments do you use to counter this?

4a2b1b  No.731256


cf468e  No.731478

Might is not right.

Mercifulness, care, love and humidity are right.

That's what killed paganism.


239af3  No.731483

If they think that 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 is the definition of cuckoldry, then let them be. Why do you have to care about the silly things people believe in, do not throw pearl before the swines.


cf468e  No.731524

>>731483

If that's cuckery than I'm a proud cuck.


aee490  No.731547

>>731478

Christian soldiers is literally what killed paganism. What are you talking about?


7b1909  No.731574

>>731547

It was our preaching that killed paganism. There were no Christian states in roman times.


51cbb5  No.731576

A lot of words that are familiar to us from the King James have a very different meaning in the original Greek:

>blessed are the meek

>from HELPS word studies: Biblical meekness is not weakness but rather refers to exercising God's strength under His control – i.e. demonstrating power without undue harshness.

As for turn the other cheek, it’s obvious to anyone who isn’t being an ass and over-literalizing stuff that it just means don’t start shit if someone is harassing you. 9 times out of 10, it will blow over.


aee490  No.731584

>>731574

The Germanic pagans were converted by force. Passive Christianity was such an utter failure at gaining power in Rome that an angel had to pull a deus ex machina and tell Constantine to convert for it to gain political power. The martyrs didn’t help squat. They just make for a useful victim narrative. In practice, taking it like a bitch just doesn’t work.


95f497  No.731673

>>731584

Well the apostles did convert a considerable number of people beforehand, keep in mind it became mostly gentile religion, but yeah I too could agree on it not "killing" pagansim directly.

As for non-Christian beliefs it's not like they're all stereotypically hedonist. The Indic concept of ahimsa entails doing no harm and having compassion.


f84d86  No.731749

>>731673

>As for non-Christian beliefs it's not like they're all stereotypically hedonist. The Indic concept of ahimsa entails doing no harm and having compassion.

That's because pussing out is human nature. It's universal. Islam is far more cucked than you're led to believe too. Being brave and standing up for yourself comes from life experience. Only extremely winnie the poohed up people don't have an innate sense of empathy.


07e0b5  No.731840

I love the sermon on the mount because of how thoroughly it condemns virtue signalers.


36fcc6  No.731859

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Because of context.

>Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth

When Christ tells us to turn the other cheek, He is telling us not to engange in a self destructive spiral of revenges because of small offences, like a slap in the face. And you should not confuse vengeance and justice.

If they are talking about literal cuckness:

>But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

>saving for the cause of fornication

It's not hard to understand at all, but some people just want excuses to insult Christianity.


92553d  No.731927

>>731859

>saving for the cause of fornication

Heresy. Christ banned illicit marriages, as they were never licit to begin with; whomever re-marries without the death of the spouse in a consummated marriage between two baptized christians commits adultery.


286b2b  No.731960

>>731859

Assuming the woman is Mary, who are the two little kids?


92553d  No.731961

>>731960

Christ and St. John the Baptist, probably


fafaec  No.731968

I'm fairly certain the consensus on this text means to double down rather than attack your opponent. I'm reminded of 1 Kings 22:24-25 whenever I hear about turning the other cheek, you should check it out.


dd0a19  No.731976

>>731245

These were humiliations to be given to your aggressors through longsuffering and humility.

>But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil

You can avoid evil, and you can 'resist' evil, but do not struggle with it. Do not come to blows. Render not evil unto evil.

Your vengeance is in God's hands, not your own.

>but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also

Grit yourself and prepare for more. As general advice.

Two things here.

If someone backhands you -it's insulting- but you're fine, largely. Prepare yourself, and don't stoop to their level.

It was a cultural thing that upper classes would backhand the lower ones, and you only struck with the one hand. You can only backhand one side of the face with the one hand. If you turned the other cheek, they had to punch you like an equal.

Either way, if you punch back you'll get arrested for brawling in CURRENT YEAR.

>And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also

If someone sues you for the shirt off your back, give him your jacket also.

I've been told this is a somewhat obtuse cultural thing, where landlords had to give the cloak back or something.

I get a "if they want it so bad, give them the rest too" kind of feeling from this. This is one of those 'heaping humiliations' kind of things.

>And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain

Ye olde 'go the extra mile'

This was apparently in reference to how roman soldiers could make civilians carry their packs for a mile, but only a mile. It was illegal to make them carry it further. Thus, going the extra mile there would have the soldier asking for the pack back so he wouldn't get in trouble.

>Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you

If someone comes up to you and spews bile and hate in your face, tell them that God made him special and loves him very much.

>For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?

Do hard things.

God loves everyone. You're the ambassador of God on this earth. Do you think you're supposed to stop loving people when it's not easy?


36fcc6  No.732118

>>731927

Who is talking about remarriage, brother?

And the words are not mine, but Christ's.


53e386  No.732145

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>>731927

>literally the words of God

>heresy

Is Christ Himself a heretic now?


92553d  No.732192

>>732118

The words are in translation, friend. Christ did not permit re-marriage for the cause of fornication, He banned it completely. Christ did not speak the Word in English, so your English translation must step aside to the authority of the Vulgate and LXX.

>>732145

You are the heretic, if you claim Christ proclaimed something He did not.


36fcc6  No.732225

>>732192

>You are the heretic, if you claim Christ proclaimed something He did not.

It's in the Bible, Matthew 5:32. Is it quoting the Bible a heresy now?

>Christ did not permit re-marriage for the cause of fornication

And I never said he did, nor does the verse I quoted. But He allows to put your wife away if she fornicates. That's my point.

Are you illiterate?


92553d  No.732227

>>732225

Are you a fool? The Greek, which the Gospel is written in, does not use the word for "Adultery", it used the more generalized word for "Sexual Immorality". Had Christ meant to loosen the marriage bond upon adultery, He would have done so.

He did not, and you are guilty of preaching adultery and death if you spread your error.


53506c  No.732232

I don't care at all except for the fact alot of churches are cucked because of interracial marriages, weak theology, and support of turning the other cheek for barbarians.


36fcc6  No.732246

>>732227

>Are you a fool?

No, but you are bearing false witness. How, by simply quoting the KJV, am I preching adultery?

>The Greek, which the Gospel is written in, does not use the word for "Adultery", it used the more generalized word for "Sexual Immorality

Isn't infidelity sexual imorality? If your wife is cheating on you, you can divorce her. Simple as that. I didn't even touch on the subject of remarriage (which I am against) on my first post and I don't see how you came to the conclusion I am preching remarriage.

Read carefully before accusing me of something I am not doing, and caling me a heretic.




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