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>>675912

Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy/gnostics won't certainly be affected by them.

Only protestants, specifically creationists, would have a difficult time reconcile aliens within biblical parameters

>>675912

We will have to see if they are also fallen, if they are not they're probably more in touch with God than we are.

Or if they are not aliensa but a mask for demons, like old pagan idols.

Well, if they're advanced enough and have been monitoring us, we could see if they had record of Jesus being crucified.

If Jesus paid the price for all of humanity, maybe the aliens have their own equivalent, along with debate between themselves.

Aliens existing means Christianity is wrong. The Fermi Paradox is one of the pieces of evidence that we can use to show Christianity is right. If we're only one of a number of species it means that we're nothing special

>>675932

Poor Jesus, getting crucified across galaxies

>>675912

>what impact would that have on Christianity

little, but having aliens sit next to you in church might be cool too

but I doubt there is life out there that can travel such distances

it would be more likely that aliens are humans from a really distant future visiting from a observation format that views the past

>>675932

Jesus didn't even assume nature of Angels, only Humans. What you are saying is borderline heeresy

>>675943

>If we're only one of a number of species it means that we're nothing special

Jesus assumed our nature. You dont need anything else to be special.

>>675918

>Catholicism/Eastern Orthodoxy/gnostics

>gnostics

Everyone point and laugh.

>>675943

That's exactly the argument people would make to justify banning Christianity in that situation. People will first mock Christians and belittle them for being wrong, and the pretenders and false Christians will feel admonished and foolish, and switch sides to save face. Those who remain faithful will be accused of being slandourous towards the aliens, and no thought will be put towards wondering if they are even telling the truth about their origins.

Never lose faith, anon, not even in the face of what appear to be unquestionable facts. Personally, I'd be inclined to think that any aliens that reveal themselves are actually fallen angels or demons. Trust in Christ, and amen.

>>675951

If Aliens exist then it means human life simply evolved by chance and there is no God, or if there is a God it isn't the Christian God. Dunno why people are so afraid to admit this. Aliens mean it's game over for Christianity. But we haven't found any and probably won't ever find any.

>>675954

I wonder how atheists would react if aliens did visit us and their first stop was the Vatican to give their respects to the Vicar of Christ. It would be their most treasured sci-fi fantasy turned into a nightmare, wouldn't it be grand?

>>675957

This is true. You know it and I know it. Christianity asserts that humanity alone was made in the image of God and that the universe was made for us. If aliens come and they're not Christian then I can't see how you can possibly reconcile that with what the Bible says. Why would God create a species that doesn't know Him?

http://www.gornahoor.net/?p=9647

>The Traditional view is that there are four kingdoms of manifest beings: Mineral, Plant, Animal, and Human. Flatland science regards human beings as just another species of animal life. That opinion is forced due to its limitation to appearances, DNA, homologous characteristics, in short, any and all exterior features.

>When we turn to the qualitative features, i.e., interiority, the situation is quite different. Then, we see that the human being is not a type of animal, but a kingdom unto itself. A fortiori, any alien visitors from outer space, assuming they have these features, will be species of the human kingdom, no matter how their external form might appear.

>Specifically, they will be fallen humans…

>>675963

If its not decedent of Adam, its not human.

>>675966

>he didn't even read the first two paragraphs of the essay

,':^)

>>675972

*sniff* *sniff* I smell incoming ban.

Aliens don't real, chuckleducks

>>675950

Not borderline but oughtright

If anyone shall say that Christ, of whom it is said that he appeared in the form of God, and that he was united before all time with God the Word, and humbled himself in these last days even to humanity, had (according to their expression) pity upon the various falls which had appeared in the spirits united in the same unity (of which he himself is part), and that to restore them he passed through various classes, had different bodies and different names, became all to all, an Angel among Angels, a Power among Powers, has clothed himself in the different classes of reasonable beings with a form corresponding to that class, and finally has taken flesh and blood like ours and has become man for men; [if anyone says all this] and does not profess that God the Word humbled himself and became man: let him be anathema.

Either they have no rational souls like animals, that is they would just be very intelligent beings or if they came here saying they created us or that christianism if false etc [insert random lie] they would be Satan's henchmen.

I believe it would be the first one if they existed.

even further schism separating the tares that fall for the deception and the wheat who have eyes to see.

>>675960

Dogs and cats don't know Him as we do.

What's your point? Only if you assume they have a soul like we do. Which is outright impossible, since God incarnated as a Human being and the Mother of God is a Human being if you need further proof that we are the only ones who can be called his sons.

Unless in a fantasy world you can imagine those aliens to have souls like we do but when they arrived here they would immediately recognise us as Christ's flock and would worship him with us, looking at us with high reward as the ones made in the image of God. Nevertheless this last part probably was scripture against it though.

>>675938

Until the jews get involved and then it's "We're all aliens, and equal too!"

>>675918

If they are intelligent they certainly would affect Catholics. Although the Church is pretty open on the issue of the Earth's age, Humani Generis insists on the beginnings of humanity with the two individuals Adam and Eve.

Nonhuman intelligent life would mean one of the following

>this life is actually angelic

Impossible as angels aren't material.

>intelligence is dissociated from ensoulment/spirit

Can this be reconciled with Church teaching? I think not. Our ability to use reason is derived from the soul. Is there any Church source from which we can infer otherwise?

>Adam and Eve had offspring that got sent into space somehow

Would have been mentioned in Scripture or Tradition at some point.

>>675918

>grouping Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and gnostics together

Well, I knew this already but it's nice to see regulars here admit to it.

>>676185

>Adam and Eve had offspring that got sent into space somehow

>not believing that a FTL space ship was build by Noah's sons with the remains of the Ark

>>676185

Catholics would try to convert them

>>675912

> what impact would that have on Christianity?

Quantam Presbyterians

>>676185

>>this life is actually angelic

tbh, in theory you can twist nephilim meme in inconceivable ways with massive amount of mental gymnastics and say that aliens are result of human-angel race mixing. Dont underestimate power of Autism.

We would communicate with them probably through mathematics , through logos.

They'd be like the Chinese were during the times of Jesus, just more souls that haven't heard of Christ.

>>684859

Ahem, just a reminder

>who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost and of the Virgin Mary, and was made man;

>>675912

>what impact would that have on Christianity?

Endless argument over whether they are sinners who need the Gospel preached to them or whether they are animals who don't.