So, have people seen God the Father or not? Are there people up in heaven right now, or will we only see God after Judgement day?Jesus says to the thief on the cross that he will be with him in paradise that same day. Seems to imply that people do go to

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Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:07:32 42a441 No.572535

So, have people seen God the Father or not? Are there people up in heaven right now, or will we only see God after Judgement day?

Jesus says to the thief on the cross that he will be with him in paradise that same day. Seems to imply that people do go to heaven before the resurrection.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:12:20 83d186 No.572536

No flesh has seen Him. Save for Jesus.

/thread

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:12:38 c13949 No.572537

>>572535

>Are there people up in heaven right now, or will we only see God after Judgement day?

Yes.

God the Father will reveal Himself to us after the Millennium Reign of Christ.

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:13:28 ce7cbf No.572538

>>572536

Adam and Eve walked with him in the Garden

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:16:55 42a441 No.572539

>>572538

Some say that that was pre incarnate Jesus

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:23:47 83d186 No.572542

>>572538

Adam and eve "heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the cool of the day:". Read Genesis 3 again. They never saw Him nor does it say they saw Him. It only says they heard Him. Try again.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:24:37 42a441 No.572543

>>572537

So… Are you saying that there are people in heaven, but have not seen God yet?

I've heard that the "paradise" Jesus refers to is a separate plane of existence where the righteous await Judgement day. It makes sense that you might not see the Father during this period.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:26:19 8db843 No.572546

>>572542

It says he walked with them, but as >>572539 says, that was the pre-incarnate Jesus

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:30:01 83d186 No.572548

>>572546

>It says he walked with them

That does not mean they saw Him. Show me the chapter and verse where it says they saw Him. There were alot of trees to hide behind….

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 06:41:50 9b71a6 No.572553

OP, there's nothing to see. God is spirit

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 07:00:32 42a441 No.572560

>>572553

If that were the case, why would God warn moses about seeing his face?

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 07:18:10 807a6c No.572563

No, no one can ever see God the Father directly unless they've been fully united with Him and become "like God". He is ineffable, inconceivable, beyond all words, beyond all existence, beyond all images, beyond all description, at once containing all attributes while also being above them.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 07:33:28 216ad5 No.572565

>>572553

Adam and Eve hear Him walking, which assumes a physical form to make noise

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 07:56:45 807a6c No.572572

>>572565

art thou serious? this was written of a time before the fall. we have no idea or context for what "God's walking" looks like at all, or even if its a physical phenomenon.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 08:38:25 9b71a6 No.572582

>>572560

God made an avatar through which to manifest His glory.

Christanon 12/13/17 (Wed) 23:35:10 42a441 No.572875

>>572582

What on earth are you on about? Are you talking about Jesus?

God warns moses that no one can see his face and live. Plenty of people have seen the face of jesus, so it must be God the Father talking. Therefore, God the Father has a face. There is something to see.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 01:48:28 9b71a6 No.572942

>>572875

You also wouldn't be able to see Jesus Christ. This was a created avatar through which God the Son appeared in glory.

Christanon 12/14/17 (Thu) 02:03:23 21b7df No.572958

>>572535

>Jesus says to the thief that same day on the cross, that he will be with him in paradise

Fixed.