Is Matthew 10:16 a command to the apostles alone, or to all men? If it's the latter, how do we justify using violence as a means to punish or prevent crime, heresy, etc. "Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpen

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Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 22:12:03 9eab6f No.544558

Is Matthew 10:16 a command to the apostles alone, or to all men? If it's the latter, how do we justify using violence as a means to punish or prevent crime, heresy, etc.

"Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves."

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 22:44:56 fc86c9 No.544586

What does matthew 10:16 have to do with the physical body? Do you even recognize romans 8:8?

Proverbs 22:15 is the answer to your question of physical violence.

/thead

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 22:49:44 9eab6f No.544587

>>544586

I'm not posing my own interpretation, just trying to get a better understanding. If we (the Church) are as sheep in the midst of wolves, doesn't that imply an attitude of nonviolence?

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 22:54:12 513000 No.544590

>>544587

There are consequences for violence, and the new testament does say you should turn the other cheek. This did not mean crime went unpunished in the new testament.

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 22:56:04 fc86c9 No.544591

>>544587

>we

That aside. it's said in the next verse in matthew 10:17

>But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourage you in their synagogues;

The "wolves" are of your own house. Read matthew 12:25

>And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

That's why the order is given as it was so that you don't 1 corinthians 10:8 nor that you become a 1 corinthians 9:27 when you are 1 corinthians 14:26'ing the brethern

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 23:00:52 fc86c9 No.544596

>>544590

Also remember the definitions of man i.e ecclesasties 3:18-21 and zechariah 1:8-10.

Christanon 10/25/17 (Wed) 23:02:19 6a98d2 No.544598

>>544587

Yes, in the sense of the church should not be imposing anything beyond kicking someone out via church discipline.

The state is a different matter, see Romans 13. Just don't confuse the church with the state, that's where a lot of violation of Christ's commands have started.