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 No.122860>>122966 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Just in regards to the locked thread that guy created, and anything additional that other users (not McKee, please you would kill it with your poor formatting and sub-standard writing) may want to talk about in regards to this broad topic - It does tie in to what we post here and on /pol/:

Looking into it, he absolutely does have a (legal) point about Tribunals using state law to fuck with people in other states (and it being not legal at all), his law links are solid.

The Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine being illegally imprisoned; Victorian Tribunal using Victorian Police against NSW residents (NSW police were not involved) all because they didn't listen to a summons filed in Victoria despite being NSW residents and found in contempt.

The people filing suit are the O.T.O / Thelema of Aleister Crowley fame (the heroin and homosexual junkie who couldn't handle his own dogma of "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.").

Even if you don't much care about that - the fact is; if one of these groups that Luke McKee (shitposter extraodenaire) has mentioned finds you talking shit online about them (such as this place, like gaiaguys.com or whatever) and get the Victorian Police involved - given what has happened recently in regards to the sunshine secret database that we only found out about due to the recent hack - 8ch.net would hand your data over to them and we would likely be legaly fucked. Remember, that whole Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine thing happened in 2008, the laws used in that case have only strengthened since that time (both state and federal). Things are not looking good.

Further reading: https://8ch.net/aus/res/121083.html If any of your remember about the anti-discrimination act and its legal skulduggery mentioned there.

It is important… regardless of the shit the McKee guy spews.

 No.122869>>122870 >>122966

One time I was masturbating and my mum stormed into my room furious yelling at me, she grabbed my cock and wanked it harder until I jizzed into her hand and smeared it all over her cunt as she pissed on my bed.


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>>122869

You're a Indigenous Australian then?

We can't charg… I mean share with us your tribal customs.


 No.122966>>123128

>>122869

and here comes the shill trying to derail the thread

>>122860 (OP)

Good post. it's a serious problem - you can't actually be imprisoned under 18C, it's civil and in the end if you're judgement proof any judgement they get if it goes to court is worthless, you declare yourself bankrupt and go on living your life.

However in Victoria you can actually be imprisoned for 6 months or fined up to $77,500 by the state for serious vilification, bankruptcy doesn't cover court fines for criminal offenses and state governments are often cunts about enforcing them - cancelling drivers licenses and stuff like that.

The fact is if you write something on the internet you're 'publishing' it where ever anybody reads, and if "vilifying" someone is an offense in Victoria and someone in Victoria reads it you've potentially committed a criminal offense in Victoria.

Their shitty laws are indeed everybody's problem.


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 No.123128>>123129 >>123488 >>131413

>>122966

>The fact is if you write something on the internet you're 'publishing' it where ever anybody reads, and if "vilifying" someone is an offense in Victoria and someone in Victoria reads it you've potentially committed a criminal offense in Victoria.

My point exactly!

If they read it, and live in the cancer known as Victoria - they can get you in NSW, SA, WA, QLD, TAS and NT, CAN. Thats how those two; Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine got fucked in the A.

Since they lived in NSW and didn't intend to go to the Tribunal summons (and said they weren't going to go) since they thought VIC law doesn't apply in NSW (I wouldn't have thought so either) they were found in contempt and brought to Victoria - using Victorian police, whom travel over 1500 km to get them. The hearing for contempt from what I read was to be the next day, they were not remanded in custody and left before that hearing - Only for the Victorian police to bring them back down to Melbourne again. They were goaled for not attending a summons in Victoria - not vilification, that was a separate issue.

Now the weird part:

Later, that McKee bloke posted his father's case (held in NSW) regarding a suit brought forward by that Gary Burns gay-lord to two other people (one was McKee's father): one in QLD, the other in VIC. Apparently, the judge sitting in that case had ruled that Gary Burns could not use anti-vilification/discrimination laws of NSW against people whom live in other states as NCAT, the NSW tribunal through which the complaint was filed, has no jurisdiction over those states as set out in the Australian Constitution, which has already framework for interstate disputes which NCAT as well as other Tribunals within the country cannot challenge (in essence, tribunals are not courts - due to separation of powers). If this is true, and I have no reason to think it isn't - how is it that VIC police/Tribunal can violate the law in this regard and abduct two people from their own homes some distance away without any legal consequence or reprimand? It was never legal to do so.

Yet, in the State of Victoria - their laws trump ours?

Does this make sense to anyone?

In the previous neet thread (link in OP) it was pointed out that:

>Unlike other jurisdictions, Western Australian law imposes criminal but not civil sanctions against racial vilification. In Western Australia, the Criminal Code was amended in 1989 to criminalise the possession, publication and display of written >or pictorial material that is threatening or abusive with the intention of inciting racial hatred or of harassing a racial group. [35] Penalties range between 6 months and two years imprisonment. It is noteworthy that the Western Australian >legislation only addresses written or pictorial information - not verbal comments. The emphasis on written material arose in direct response to the racist poster campaigns of the Australian Nationalist Movement in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

If a case is filed in Victoria and the target was in WA, Victorian Law would attempt to overrule WA law and would feel justified in doing so.

How on earth is this legal? Could someone please explain?

NSW Lawcase that McKee had provided that says such things have no jurisdiction in other states

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58900a94e4b058596cba3975

The OTO Lawcase against Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine that believes differently

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2007/1484.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=Vivienne%20Legg%20and%20Dyson%20Devine

More on that

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinosrch.cgi?query=Vivienne+Legg+and+Dyson+Devine&results=50&submit=Search&mask_world=&mask_path=&callback=on&method=auto&meta=%2Fau


 No.123129>>123488


 No.123488>>123664

>>123128

>>123129

are you gonna let those clearnet links just sit there, or are you gonna archive them as evidence using wget / archive.is / mhtml / maff / archive.org?


 No.123664>>123680

>>123488

TBH, I woundering if it's even worth while to do that at all, given the obvious level of apathy on this board.

Doesn't look like anyone really gives a shit.

I could try posting this on /pol/ but I think it may be too niche for anyone to really take notice.


 No.123680>>123893

>>123664

we do give a shit, it's just it's your responsibility as OP to preserve the info for future /aus/ posters, no matter how deserted this board seems

remember that most imageboard users are lurkers/robot crawlers that may still want your knowledge


 No.123893

>>123680

OP here

Looks like 8ch.net has been hacked again..

According to sudo, https://8ch.net/sudo/res/34073.html

>Sunshine has no pubkeys anymore, and it's unlikely to be cracked until 2030

Which sounds like massive bullshit for the plebs still here to eat up.

Also from the /sudo/ thread:

>Anon1: >>34227

>Yeah but sunshine was started by Hotwheels and the board log was also implemented by him and I wouldn't be surprised if this too was a practice started by him

>Anon2: >>34224

> >>34228

>wasn't this because of that Adelaide shit? Aussie bitches are such whores.

>Anon3:>>34296

>wasn't this because of that Adelaide shit? Aussie bitches are such whores.

>IP logging of POSTS was due to that.

>IP logging of mod actions is a different subject. So far I have no idea when this practice was started and why

>I think Anon2: >>34299

>For what purpose would that have forced post IP logging? This isn't an ausfaglia website, we are not bound by their laws.

Anon2 is obviously wrong, information has indeed been handed over to the Aus Police - even though he is correct that 8ch.net is not bound to Australian Law at all.

It is tempting to think that it WAS because of the Adelaide nudes thread that IP logging of POSTS came about because of that, if true - well done boys - we are most probably on a watch list of some kind.

Speaking about watch lists:

https://8ch.net/aus/res/123659.html

It kinda obvious they aren't going to target lebs/arabs (Why destroy a enemy when it is in your interests to keep them alive and well) and they aren't going to attack Neo-Nazi's in Australia (lets face it, neo-whatever basically means "New Jewish Controlled Op" - see neo-conservative in the states and abroad or John Safran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohjRSC4DL4Y&feature=youtu.be&t=19m9s, The whole video basically says the same shit)

According to this thread: >The Commissioner also intends the new unit to be a resource for parents worried about their children being dangerously influenced.

>“The views of a young person, under the wrong influence, could change in a matter of days or weeks,” he said, “We want parents to be able to contact the Fixated Persons Investigations Unit and get some help.”

Meaning; if you start becoming 'red-pilled' and your very worried hippy mother finds out, you're screwed and will be labeled insane or unfit on some government database (good bye job prospects) - NEETS be-warned. That is more related to NSW than the other states but they, I would imagine, would follow suit very soon.

Simply put, I'm leaving for what appears to be greener pastures. I no longer trust the admins here at all.

P.S 8ch.pl may be an alternative but their privacy policy is non-existent as the .pdf link supplied by them leads to a 404. Take that as you will.

As for archiving links… tbh I cannot be fucked. It all feels quiet hopeless ATM.

Good luck.


 No.131413>>131582 >>131586

>>123128

If you look into it long enough you will realize the truth. There are no laws, there is no jurisdiction, its all just pretense to achieve an outcome.

Lets say I stole a car, and then I started using it as a taxi and taking money for the rides I sell to people.

So is any part of my business legitimate?

No its all based on theft.

Do I care?

No, I'm making a profit on someone else's asset.

Australia is effectively the same thing, the country is stolen from the abos, they never surrendered and no treaty was ever signed. technically its still their land, all of it. the British just stole it. So on that basis of initial crime is anything else going to be legitimate, the meter being correct etc…?

No of course not.

There will be pretense as long as that's easy and profitable to do.

the thing to understand is that the law is just there to extract value from the public and threaten/extort them into submission when convenient.

Pointing out glaring inconsistencies in case law or the state/federal constitution only sometimes helps. the important thing to know is that is all a con. you can waste years in the rabbit warren of law when you could be learning important skills or networking with other woke people.

There are a few tricks to beat cases against you, but this law stuff is a flimsy shield and never a sword. No amount of correct paperwork will make the law system crash in on its self, if that were true it would have do so thousands of times before when it 'divided by zero' in numerous cases. its a true fantasy land for the dishonest and delusional.

Its all just deception and if that fails, thuggery.

If you are looking for the most dangerous traitors in a society, look first at the politicians, bankers, judges, lawyers and police, that's where you will find the highest concentrations of (and the most damaging) traitors.


 No.131582>>131586 >>131635

>>131413

>The British stole Australia

Fuck off faggot. Australia has only existed for about 100 years. Before federation, it was colonies, NSW and Victoria, before then it was fucking nothing.

>No treaty with Abos

They didn't even have a treaty with each other. Which fucking tribes get treaties? What happens if say, the tribe that ousted the cunts from Uluru gets a land rights claim from the losers of that conflict? How far back do we go?

>how is this relevant to the thread?

how long does something remain online? what if some cunt reads something mean I wrote a decade ago? this law is fucking stupid. nigger, how hard is it to turn of your computer?


 No.131586>>131589

>>131582

>nothing

It was a beautiful libertarian paradise teeming with sustainable local communist tribes, thank you very much. You are correct in that 'Australia' is a colonial crumpet invention, but you do not seem to be worried about the English Anglo, primary 19th century race-slave of the jew. Please stop adding unnecessary spaces to your post, as it is doesn't make your post any clearer. We are all semi-literate here.

>>131413

>traitors

Who are they really betraying? Did you really sign up to work for them, or were you born into this wonderful shithole like I was? Sounds more like slavery as opposed to betrayal to me. For one, it's not hard to tell that establishment squares aren't in the system "for the greater good". I can't really blame their desire for comfort, but I can react and change. You can too.


 No.131589

>>131586

What did the fauna call this island before the Anglo came and gave them petrol?


 No.131635>>131674

>>131582

I think you might be missing the point.


 No.131674

>>131635

No, the point being made was stupid. Australia wasn't stolen, it was created. All the other edgy shit was stupid too.

As for the apparent injustice, racial vilification can be addressed under federal criminal law, in which case it is not a matter of state jurisdiction or civil courts. Which is stupid. Blame the jews and the Islamic Council.




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