No.16539
What is your opinion on non-European or non-Norse forms of paganism/polytheism? Do you think of a revival of paganist faiths would have a positive influence on parts of the world other than the west?
Japan's shintoism could be seen as a form of paganism and their society seems to be much more peaceful and traditional than that of other Eastern-Asian nations such as China and both Koreas.
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No.16540
Depends on which one(s). Not all forms of Paganism are equal. The Jews still worship their Pagan gods in secret but their gods are not ones that I have any interest in. Aztec Gods are almost even worse; they had one deity who was represented by wearing a flayed human skin, which was supposed to represent the process of corn germination. To maintain harvests and the cycle of new life the Aztecs would flay 20 virgin women every year, and the priests of Xipe Toltec would wear their skins, painted yellow like corn, and dance around in their temples with them.
Pagan gods however are in many ways reflections of the people that worship them, and vice versa. Its not like if the spics were still Pagan that they would be any more or less barbaric and savage. They still love flaying people and stitching their faces on soccer balls, they just dont do it spiritually anymore. They've fully shown themselves to be nothing but depraved sadists.
Btw Babylonians were white. I guess technically they werent European, but look at their statues and idols, study their language a bit and youll realize they were whities.
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No.16555
>>16539
I'm only interested in the PIE religion.
>>16540
Yeah, I don't think they were Europeans, but I also have the assumption that they were white, I think they fall in the non-European Caucasoids category.
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No.16656
>>16540
>white
>t. jimmy tashawn gonzales
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No.16660
>>16656
im not sure what youre referring to , I didnt claim the aztecs were white (although there is some evidence that the ruling classes of the Incans and Maya were white) but the Babylonians were assuredly white. Herodotus claims a few times in the Histories that they were paler than the Greeks, and several Persian Kings were said to have blond hair. They also spoke a language related to Sanskrit, and were closely related to the Indian Aryans to the East.
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No.16663
>>16660
A lot of "white" Iranians do still exist and there are a lot of other different ethnicities in the region, it would be very incorrect to think that they are all dark-skinned, dark-haired and brown-eyed like their neighbours.
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No.16723
>>16660
Do you mean Avestan? That was an IE-language indeed.
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No.16764
>>16540
>>16555
>>16660
What do you guys mean by "white"? I think the term is too imprecise to be appropriate for use, here. I would call Babylonians Caucasoid or west Eurasian, but not white, given that the alleles responsible for depigmentation of skin in Caucasoid people only become prevalent across a population among Europeans during the bronze age. A few aberrant individuals like in >>16663 don't serve to make a population "white". Furthermore, consider that pigmentation is only an expression of a small fraction of your overall genome. Ask yourself, who is going to be more genetically similar to a blue-eyed, blond-haired Swede: A brown-eyed, dark-haired Swede, or a blue-eyed, blond-haired middle easterner? Regarding language, by the way, Persian is indeed Indo-European and related to Sanskrit, but Babylonian is a Semitic language.
I don't mean to shit-talk Iranians, to actually answer OP's question, I would support the struggle of revival of Iranic Paganism against Islam, and would also support a revival of Semitic Paganism against Islam and Judaism even though obviously Semitic Paganism is of less interest, but I think clearing up understanding of who and what is "Indo-European", who or what is "European", who or what is "white", and who or what is "Caucasoid" is important.
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No.16766
>>16764
>A few aberrant individuals
Of course it's a far stretch to say that all [insert middle-eastern ethnic group] are white just because of a few pictures found online of these individuals with European features however there are entire villages in certain middle-eastern countries that have not experienced the Arab rape/interbreeding that most of the region underwent due to being isolated from the more densely-populated areas and are still entirely white or at least do not reflect their dark-skinned neighbours and still look like their ancestors. It's similar to certain South-American countries like Brazil where the population for the most part consists of mongrels or full-blood niggers yet still have these little pockets of entirely European towns or India where the population also consists of dark-skinned masses but have some towns in the far north with high-caste populations who reflect the Indo-European appearance.
You see similar things happening in European towns where in big cities there's a shitton of non-whites yet the villages in the countryside are either 99% or just completely white.
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No.16767
>>16764
>>16764
>a few aberrant individuals
why did the Sumerians, Babylonians and Egyptians all idealize blue eyes then? Almost every statue and bust I have seen from these people has blue eyes. (((Scholars))) try to explain this away as "they used blue eyes to symbolize divinity". Boy I wonder why they associated blue eyes with the divine….makes ya think.
Even some of the Egyptian statues which don't look wholly white, they still used blue eyes as if they were idealized and seen as superior.
Then there's the Nazars, those weird little blue-eyed hand amulets that the Jews and Muzzies love. Did you know these are actually old Babylonian amulets, one of the many things the kikes stole from those people? The blue eyes are believed to deflect evil and chase away demons. Again, why would they associate blue eyes with such divine themes if they weren't white or at least heavily influenced by whites?
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No.16768
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No.16769
>>16764
>the alleles responsible for depigmentation of skin in Caucasoid people only become prevalent across a population among Europeans during the bronze age
need sources for this.
>Persian is Aryan
>Babylonian is Semitic
I don't think you know what either of these terms mean. Do you mean Akkadian?
>Reviving Semitic Paganism
I have addressed the problem with this in another thread
>>16726
Their monotheism is the least of the Jew's problems. I don't give a shit what the Semites worship, they must be destroyed for the good of civilization.
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No.16778
>>16766
>European towns
I meant to write "European countries".
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No.16789
polytheism was for the pleb masses, the educated chieftains, advisors, philosophers and sages were all monotheists who subordinated the "pantheon" to the overarching One God
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No.16790
>>16789
But then you get the question of which of these many versions of "One God" (assuming that he/it exists) is the true one. For example, some Hindus are monotheists yet are still regarded as infidels by muslims who are also monotheists and their "allah" is regarded as a heathen god by the jews who worship "yawheh" who they regard as the one true god.
At least with different forms of polytheism you could claim that the gods of serveral groups of people are the same ones but with different name/interpretations due to cultural and linguistic differences, like how most ancient people had a supreme god that was regarded as a wise man with a beard or a motherlike goddess that guarded pregnant women and households. But monotheists are obsessed with the idea of following the "one true faith" and therefore if a group of people worship only one god yet this one has a different name and nature from theirs then it must be the wrong one and they must be persecuted until they convert.
It's for this reason that muslims, christians and jews have been killing each other for centuries which is hilarious because in the end they all worship the same jewish god but in a different flavor.
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No.16794
>>16767
>(((Scholars))) try to explain this away as "they used blue eyes to symbolize divinity".
Scientists always brush off what they don't understand as "religion". There may have really been blue eyed people in the region.
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No.16815
I'm pretty drawn to Finnish paganism due to my Finnish roots. I just don't have any connections to the Germanic myths and it'd feel LARPy (for me personally) to practice anything related to it
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No.16816
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>>16815
How is Ukkonen or Гром different from Donar?
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No.16818
>>16816
I'm not an expert since I've been getting into this stuff only recently, but Ukko is both the supreme god and the sky god. He is similar to Thor in being a thunder god, but he is also the god of rain and snow, so he's associated with agricultural in some ways. He is seated on a cloud, bears the firmament and carries a rainbow as his bow and also a hammer like Mjölnir. I think he might also have a sword too, this god is armed to the teeth kek.
Granted, I'm just scratching the surface, so if anyone knows more or if I've made a mistake, let me know. I
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No.16864
>>16818
Some believe that the different gods of each European faith are in fact the same ones but with different names.
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No.17247
>>16540
The Jewish deity can not be pagan, by definition because "pagan" is an insult that refers to all non-Abrahamism.
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No.17254
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>>17247
Another reason why it cannot be Pagan is because it's a constructed religion, not a naturally developed one. You wouldn't call it "Paganism" for the same reasons that Scientology or Buddhism isn't Paganism.
The Jews did have their Pagan gods before, when their religion was passed on orally, but all that was ended by whoever bypassed oral tradition by writing down exactly what the religion was and also declaring the oral version of the religion as unofficial, unreliable and "heretical", a narrow group of people had the power of defining what Judaism was. Later on they repeated the same process in Europe by taking a watered-down version of Judaism (Christianity) and painting the chief Pagan gods (Zeus/Odin/Rod/etc…) as just "Yahweh" and reducing all the other gods into "saints" and "prophets" who supposedly, according to the Christians, already had a long history of serving Yahweh.
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