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 No.10190

Hello, /asatru/,

You should appreciate this.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russian-rambo-wipes-out-isis-7626914

This is the kind of person our culture should look up to. We should be telling our children about him and drinking him toasts all over the country, he should be making headlines. Our culture's been forgetting about the value of bravery–maybe share this around and try to remind a few people at least once.

I left this board a long time ago for being basically a heathen /pol/ and doing nothing but circlejerk about muh ethnicity and bogging the gays, but I think we have this at least in common. Have a drink for this fucking hero with me.

 No.10191

>>10190

I read about him, one of the most based slavs to have lived.

He did Perun proud, I hope he dines with his ancestors.


 No.10201

One of the biggest issues today with our people and our society as that people no longer have something they are willing to die for. This man did.

A true hero.


 No.10202

>>10191

"Slavs" are eastern germanics.

>>10201

>This man did.

Yeah, for jewtin's twisted pan-slavist bolshevist eurasianist vision of a revived soviet union. That's just as bad as the sandnigger caliphate.


 No.10203

Also this shit belongs on /pol/, the OP doesn't even have anything to do with /asatru/ or the gods


 No.10205

>>10202

And you just reminded me why I left.

Can't you admire that kind of loyalty and bravery, no matter where they came from?


 No.10206

>>10203

It's about cultural values, which I know is this board's favorite thing to bitch and whine about.


 No.10207

>>10206

Going off of this, its about cultural values in relation to your folk. As said in >>10201 people have nothing to die for these days, except maybe their love of the Packers. For Russian Rambo, he died to strike a blow against outsiders threatening his way of life and his people.


 No.10209

>>10190

We do need new heroes… But from within our own völk. This man will make a fine example for future slavs though.

>>10205

>One guys opinion I don't like is enough to drive me away from a place entirely

>I don't fight things I don't like, I just run away. Even the effort of arguing my viewpoints on the internet in the comfort of my climate-controlled housing unit is too much, I'll just leave.

In that case: You were not, and wouldn't be, missed.


 No.10211

>>10209

>one guy's opinion

That opinion seems to be shared by the entire board. I have no problem arguing my viewpoints on the Internet. The problem is that no one would listen and properly respond when I argued, and I got tired of repeating myself. This entire board refuses to listen to someone who doesn't want to gas the kikes and bog the gays, and every thread seems to an endless bitchfest about how they're ruining our society.

I judge people by merit and skills alone, regardless of ethnicity or anything else. That attitude's not welcome here, but I don't fit in with the damn universalists either–they're all fat, incompetent, and don't care to change that, and I have no respect for them.

Our Norse ancestors would be much more pleased with the members of /k/, /out/ and /fit/ than with you. Yes, solidarity with your race is important, but it's not all there fucking is to this culture. Much more important are physical skills and survivalism, but no one here seems to agree with that.


 No.10213

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>>10211

>This entire board refuses to listen to someone who doesn't want to gas the kikes and bog the gays, and every thread seems to an endless bitchfest about how they're ruining our society.

"Bitchfest", nice leftist-brand outgrouping. That they are is measurable. We have no libertarian heathens, you are essentially saying "It's not fair to judge people by their actions", I don't care if they are behind closed doors or not, the state of mind they reflect WILL seep outwards. Homosexuality specifically has an exhibitionist and a dominating streak.

>I judge people by merit and skills alone, regardless of ethnicity or anything else.

> I don't fit in with the damn universalists either–they're all fat, incompetent, and don't care to change that, and I have no respect for them.

Your being trapped between worlds is your own doing. Either recognise innate nature, or don't, to be "purplepilled" is to fit in nowhere. To those who understand generalities are naturalistic your attempt to accept a top 10% of a foreign group whom are just acceptable by ours standards, and whose progeny will likely revert to mean will find you no friends. Your unwillingness to accept the vibrant majority and that it's all racist oppression and not racial difference will find you no friends either. You cannot half-belief in spherical earth and flat earth…

>Our Norse ancestors would be much more pleased with the members of /k/, /out/ and /fit/ than with you. Yes, solidarity with your race is important, but it's not all there fucking is to this culture. Much more important are physical skills and survivalism, but no one here seems to agree with that.

You sound wholly incompetent to make that claim, so you'll forgive my chuckle. I don't have to choose either/or, in most people who are one, they are the other. In most people who are the other, they aren't the one. Those 10% of homosexuals who might maybe not be an absolute cancer and also have survival skills will still seek partners and spread the sickness outwards and create a 90% who are feminised faggots. You would have been bogged by our ancestors if you were gay, you can wax r/asatru/ and #heathenswithouthate as much as you like but that is the plain and unadulterated truth.

Our brand is growing because we refuse to settle, we have standards and strength and we hold people to them, that is what people really want. National Socialism is secular völkisch heathenry, both groups are growing and are the future.

If you cannot stand to hear such things then go back amongst the rest of the lukewarm dead-ends, for your sake as much as ours. Live in comfort and cognitive dissonance until the great clash where either fire or ice overtake your tepidness.


 No.10214

>>10213

Addendum: Naturalism is heathenry. That a tree is a tree, and not just planks of wood in a house to be made is heathenry. That a stone is a shard of the earth and not just a wall or a statue waiting to be made. The jew is a jew, it is not a homeland away from nationalism. The negro is the negro, it is not simply an education away from aryanism.

You're following modernist christianity with YHWH named Odin, a lot of why I chuckle when you make authoritative comments like that. Why your attempt to cajole me with such things ispires only amusement instead of the shame for pseudo-leftist (perhaps full leftist) self was hoping to achieve.

If you really were in tune with the frame of mind of what makes an innangard, what comprises fríd or why the moving of water around the world tree shapes our reality you would not arrive to anything close to these modernist notions. You've replaced aesthetic elements within the same outlook as you had before. You haven't actually changed religions.


 No.10220

>>10202

>>10202

>"Slavs" are eastern germanic

can we please stop this meme? what kind of basis does this have


 No.10227

>>10213

I call it a "bitchfest" because it is so repetitive, not because of the subject matter. Every single thread devolves into this, regardless of the original subject matter. It's a one-sided argument in which everyone present congratulates each other on having the same opinion, over and over.

I do not say it is not fair to judge people by their actions. I specifically said that is the first and only way I judge people. I say it is not fair to judge people by other peoples' actions. Each individual I judge on a case-by-case basis.

>Either recognise innate nature, or don't

That's not the way it is. Both nature and nurture have an effect on a person's development, and both their effects can be observed. Yes, I agree and have seen the evidence that blacks, for example, tend to be less intelligent overall than most other races. However, that doesn't mean every single one is doomed to be ghetto nigger trash no matter how he is raised, and that doesn't mean it's impossible for a black man to be a good person. Some of them can even be above average intelligence, though that's not common. Because each race or category of people has a chance, however small, to produce skillful and worthy individuals, you must judge each individual one by one and treat him as he deserves.

Your argument against gays stands on the idea that being gay is somehow "catching", that allowing open homosexuality will cause gays to "convert" straight people. It doesn't work like that. You know the way you like women, do you think that could ever be altered by anyone else? Gays are born to feel like that about men. It's not something you can persuade people to change. I don't deny that some groups of our ancestors did bog the gays. It made sense at the time–they were struggling to have enough members, and they needed to ensure that everyone raised children whether they wanted to or not. That is no longer a problem.

It's not my fault that both sides of the schism have some unreasonable or ridiculous ideals. The universalists are worse. They don't care about skills, survivalism, or anything else that matters. I have no respect for any of them. Some people here are at least worthwhile, they practice survival and self-sufficiency, physical fitness and combat. Those are the traits I respect, even if they're accompanied by strange ideals and play at being Nazis.

>>10214

Are you saying that the only thing that separates Asatru from the Judaic religions is their attitude towards race? I was drawn to it to begin with because it prizes the traits of courage, skill, and self-sufficiency in its members, where the Judaic religions encourage obedience, conformism, and docility. That is the real difference between the religions–I consider the attitude towards race to be a side issue that barely matters at all. Why do you consider it so central an issue?

I was never a member of an Judaic religion. I despised them as soon as I was taught their real principles, the idea that everyone is innately evil unless they are "forgiven" by the church. That is the key difference between their faith and this one. You don't have nearly enough reason to accuse me of their mindset.


 No.10228

>>10227

Hey, our first kike!

If my faith says that one should never race-mix then why should I in that context accept niggers or sandniggers in any way shape or form?

I shouldn't, that would be going against my gods.

Same thing with homosexuality, it is detrimental to societal growth and therefore aids the white genocide.

So I don't have to accept it.

>That is no longer a problem.

>2016 being a communist race-traitor co-opting a religion that goes against everything you believe just so you can alter it

>nazis

Oy vey..


 No.10230

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>>10227

>I call it a "bitchfest" because it is so repetitive, not because of the subject matter.

If you constantly come across the racial issue and the rest of us don't then you may consider the common denominator. I'll also point out you brought it up yourself.

>I specifically said that is the first and only way I judge people.

And that is why you're flawed. Their nature leads to their actions. As the person who refuses to hear explosions or the person who cannot see colour you have blinded yourself. Classic "the frog and the scorpion".

>That's not the way it is.

Says "Anonymous of the Internet" on the authority of "Anonymous of the Internet".

>Both nature and nurture have an effect on a person's development<…>

No actual disagreement. But even the top 1% black has no purpose to live amongst us in our society. We do not want his genetics, his people need his. Brain drain is in fact a large part of why the third world stays that way. Same reason no african has a purpose in our faith, he has his own ancestors and gods. You mistake "there is no place for them amongst us" with "destroy them all". Wasps have no place in our houses, they're also objectively inferior to us by the things we measure ourselves to be. We simply keep them out of our houses. Also, nature is the hard cap on what is possible, nuture cannot excede nature which is the important takeaway (I'm eagerly awaiting you nuturing your own gills, should you disagree). It's also the reason I accuse you of cultural semitism: to see a thing by what it can be and not what it is is the modernist outlook to a T. Another reason I suspect you either aren't part of our faith or a good one. We're mindful of the needs of trees, we just don't ask them to take a vote in our thing because they are unable to contribute. If a magic tree that can speak wishes to be heard, we'll do it, but no such trees have appeared. Even if they did, their place is in the forest amongst the rest of the trees creating even more magic talking trees, and we'd further deny to have half-tree, half-norse children with them.

>Your argument against gays stands on the idea that being gay is somehow "catching", that allowing open homosexuality will cause gays to "convert" straight people. It doesn't work like that. You know the way you like women, do you think that could ever be altered by anyone else? Gays are born to feel like that about men. It's not something you can persuade people to change.

Hahahahahahahahaha….

Oh wait, you're serious.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man… Yes, that's why 50% of people say they're at least bisexual now in certain places. Why we went from a few fringe mental cases to a society-wide issue. Good for a chuckle if nothing else. One cannot fault your dedication to "not be too extreme and nice to everybody :)" attempts, one can only fault the fact that isn't reality. Your foundational principle is flawed, ergo every conclusion you draw from it will be equally incorrect. Fractal wrongness, if you will.

>It's not my fault that both sides of the schism have some unreasonable or ridiculous ideals.

I know man what is with all the strong opinions? They're strong so they're wrong, why can't we just let people do whatever? That's the real way the world works dude, just lighten up. There's no physical laws of best practices so lets just calm down haha.

>Are you saying that the only thing that separates Asatru from the Judaic religions is their attitude towards race?

I'm saying the only thing that separates YOU from the Judaic religions is… well… nothing. Materialism, Modernity, Potentiality, Egalitarianism, et al. you have every checkmark checked. It's not even that you're a good heathen that disagrees with me it is that you aren't even a heathen at all. Had you studied and comprehended any body of literature you would at least argue with me using the language of our faith. You cannot manage this, you use sophistic rationalism, only those with no body of theology do this when faced with religious matters. Further, even in purely nihilistic atheistic levels the things we appose are measurable ills. There is an entire secular body of the differences (usual inferiority) of other races, of the deleterious effects of homosexuality and so on. http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/01/the-fag-agenda/

>I was never a member of an Judaic religion. I despised them as soon as I was taught their real principles, the idea that everyone is innately evil unless they are "forgiven" by the church. That is the key difference between their faith and this one. You don't have nearly enough reason to accuse me of their mindset.

Then why do you know absolutely nothing of our faith? What kind of heathen, precisely, are you supposed to be? I'd like to see you defend any of these statements with anything out of our texts or theological spectrum.


 No.10233

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>>10231

pt2 due to body and image limit.

>Both nature and nurture have an effect on a person's development<…>

No actual disagreement. But even the top 1% black has no purpose to live amongst us in our society. We do not want his genetics, his people need his. Brain drain is in fact a large part of why the third world stays that way. Same reason no african has a purpose in our faith, he has his own ancestors and gods. You mistake "there is no place for them amongst us" with "14/88 destroy them all". Wasps have no place in our houses, they're also objectively inferior to us by the things we measure ourselves to be. We simply keep them out of our houses. Also, nature is the hard cap on what is possible, nuture cannot excede nature which is the important takeaway (I'm eagerly awaiting you nuturing your own gills, should you disagree). It's also the reason I accuse you of cultural semitism: to see a thing by what it can be and not what it is is the modernist outlook to a T.

We're mindful of the needs and concerns of trees, we just don't ask them to take a vote in our thing because they are unable to contribute. If a magic tree that can speak wishes to be heard, we'll do it, but no such trees have appeared. Even if they did, their place is in the forest amongst the rest of the trees creating even more magic talking trees, and we'd further deny to have half-tree, half-norse children with them.

You confuse a lot of things for hate when they are purely unnecessary, and your feelings one way or another completely unimportant. There is no reason for any other people to permanently reside in our homelands. Even if we welcome guests and have two entire tomes of how to treat foreigners of all creeds and colours. We cannot accept growing cancers in our midst, we OWE strength and health to the gods who created us. You should read this, the title may or may not hurt your feelings but it's important. I give my time to address you, I do not waste mine to waste yours: http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/01/the-fag-agenda/

Homosexuals are ill, their illness cannot persist. It spreads, it damages. The two greatest (organic, non-media) links to homosexuality that can be found are sexual abuse and generic child abuse with hormonal imbalances coming in a distant third. Homosexuals are persistently pedophiles, this is a parasitic cycle of pedo abuser creating abused children whom become pedo abusers by-and-large. The same links that can be found with morbid obesity and other conditions we combat fiercely. We will cure homosexuality, or failing its cure we will continue to bog those who cannot or will not be treated.

>Killing makes you evil! It hurts my feelings!

At the very least, the very least everybody (even the gods) reincarnates every ragnarok. In other tomes you reincarnate unless you really like where you are in the afterlife, have a mission there or are sentenced there until ragnarok. Killing you because this iteration of yours is completely messed up and we have no way to help you and no moral way to release you without you harming others is a favor to yourself and the mortal systems you're defacing. Perhaps in the next life the guides that carry you will help you work it out. Even bogging is not a spectacle or a public execution, it was a mark of shame on the family that they couldn't help their member and so "turning the wheel" for them was the best thing to be done for the person and the society. The bog would swallow and take away the shame of both the defiled and those who failed saving them. No offerings were ever made at bogs, so no souls persisted, they never became ancestral ghosts. They went immediately to the next life (on midgard or not is up for discussion) to try again.

Since you see death as an ultimate end, and thinking there is nothing more important than a life is another reason I keenly doubt your genuineness… malicious shill, or merely misguided newcomer. There are things worth more than my life, if you have nothing worth more than yours then you aren't alive. THAT is honour.


 No.10234

The server really shat itself there and my first post didn't make it through unscathed. I had split off a chunk of it but "4: 404" nibbled away the better version and I had to go back and paste an older cached version.

Apologies for the redundancy between the two.


 No.10235

>>10211

>>10227

>Our Norse ancestors would be much more pleased with the members of /k/, /out/ and /fit/ than with you

Speak for yourself, buddy; I'm not Scandinavian, I'm an Englishman, and I'm both /fit/ and /asatru/. If I didn't live where I did, I would most certainly also be /k/, but hey, here I am in Bongistan.

That aside, we could try to explain why we care about race and sexuality or you could familiarise yourself with our position by reading some non-asatru-specific, general alt-right material on such matters. I won't say I speak for everyone here, but here's my take: We, as folkish heathens, are both /asatru/ and /pol/. Most of /pol/ is /christian/, but the way I see it, Asatru as a religion gives more precedent for what we might call redpillery than Christianity does. A lot of the arguments put forward for certain things by the alt-right, from a non-religious stand-point, can be taken as agreeable and valuable arguments regardless of your religion (or even lack thereof) but I think that these secular arguments actually make the most sense in light of heathen thought.

I'll let you read as much or as little as you want to, but I'll tell you this: You're telling us that not all blacks are, if we dumb things down to good and bad, bad; that there are good blacks. We know this, thanks for the memo, but understand that someone being good does not make them one of your people. For me, Asatru should have certain attitudes towards race as well as certain attitudes towards courage, usefulness and strength. As has just been said in >>10232, the good black men can be good in their societies. We can then get rid of the shitty Germanic men from ours. Everyone (who is worthy of winning) wins.


 No.10237

>>10230

>Their nature leads to their actions

Actions are a product of conscious decisions, which are trained by good upbringing. If you took the child of the worst black drug dealer and crack whore, and raised him well, he'd be a perfectly decent, worthwhile person. It's not all genetics that matter–you can be a drooling idiot and still be a good contribution to your society. And I noticed that the only genetic factor you point out is intelligence. Yes, blacks as a whole are measurably dumber than us. Are you saying you only value intellectuals? Are athletic traits not valuable as well? In some of those, the black race surpasses us by far.

>Even the top 1% black has no purpose to live amongst us

You just summed up my problem with your side and your argument. If someone in the top one percent in skills, intelligence, or athleticism of any race wants to join me I'll welcome him with open fucking arms. Do you know how skillful exactly that means? There are black doctors and scientists, and black navy SEALS and army rangers. You compare other races to trees and wasps, but with other people there's much more overlap where their skills and value is comparable to ours. You said wasps are objectively inferior to us by the things we measure ourselves to be. How do you measure yourself, exactly, that you don't believe anyone from any other race has ever surpassed you at? That top one percent of black people you mentioned most likely surpasses you in most, if not every way you measure your own worth.

Another reason I think this entire argument is somewhat moot is that it's hardly likely to be an issue. I've never met a black person interested in Asatru or the northern woods in any case.

>50% of people say they're bisexual now

Do you believe all of that fifty percent is actually, biologically attracted to the same sex? First of all, I doubt that statistic is true. Even if it is, they're quite clearly doing it for attention. They saw society giving attention to gays, so they tried to jump in on it. That's the same fifty percent of people that claim to be whatever is fashionable at the moment. I guarantee in a couple of years, when the attention of society's whiners is moving on to something else, they'll move on too. That's not even the fault of the gays, that's just the fault of bitchy attention whores.

If I didn't have strong opinions myself I wouldn't be wasting my time here. My conviction in meritocracy is just as strong as anyone's here in racial purity. I just think it's strange to have such strong convictions regarding race–that racial purity matters so much, here, or that diversity does, among the universalists.

>Nothing separates you from the Judaic religions

I specifically outlined what does. Judaic religions prize conformity and docility. The philosophy is that everyone is evil by default, and to ever be good, they must admit they are evil and spend their life in obedience to make up for it. Asatru prizes skill, courage, and self-sufficiency. Do you disagree?

>We OWE strength and health to the gods

What the hell are you doing accusing me of having a Judaic mindset? The idea that one must shape their society because of what they OWE their god or gods is the worst aspect of Judaism and its derivatives. This isn't a religion where our actions should be motivated by guilt.

>>"Killing makes you evil! It hurts my feelings!"

Where did you get that? I didn't say that. I'm no damn pacifist. I just don't believe being gay justifies it. You're putting words in my mouth here when you claim that I see death as an "ultimate end". I only say that just because our life is not the only one we will live, doesn't mean it's worthless, and to end someone's current life unjustly is not good.

>You think nothing is more important than a life

I don't mind derailing the thread to argue with you–even though I've had this argument many times before–but please don't forget why I'm here to begin with. I came here solely to share a story of someone who courageously died–caused himself to be killed–to further his cause and protect his people.


 No.10241

>>10237

You've skipped over half of the points to pick just the one you can make points you've already made and not even address so my patience is wearing thin. If you're a heathen at all, you're a wiccan.

>We owe nothing to anybody that's judaism!

>we accept homosexuals all the time, to do otherwise is judaism!

It's basically some kind of weird jew-hating (a la FREE PALESTINE, not HITLER WAS RIGHT) wiccan-pantheism but not actually rooted in any reading of any texts or theology. I pointed it not only was their permanence in our society was bad for us, but for them, you blew right past it. I point out we work with all sides, even if we don't breed with them or live amongst them with permanence, you blow right past it. I ask you for some theological basing of your arguments, you blow right past it. I show you humanistic anthropoligical evidence (not even religious) that homosexuality is something that must be ended, you blow right past it.

>TEXTS ARE JUDAISM! I CAN MAKE IT UP AS I GO!

You'd best unfuck yourself private moonflower: >>9731


 No.10255

>>10241

What did I miss? I already addressed the percieved problem of gays in society–the only thing they're all doing wrong is failing to create children, and that's no longer an issue.

>inb4 muh white race declining

There are more than enough of us.

You equate "cause problems in society" to "must be ended", and that is where I disagree. An individual's right to control over his own body is worth too much to try to exterminate an entire group just because of the problems a portion–even a majority–of them cause.

You blame me for skipping points, but you haven't addressed a single one of mine, or supported any argument of yours with (authentic) text.


 No.10256

>>10255

You won't even state which kind of heathen you're supposed to be, much less, despite challenging morés, cite anything. You've never at any point made any theological point as as such you are owed absolutely nothing. this is a religious board and I don't even have to deign to bog myself down in secular humanism (though I did give y ou an article that you didn't read about how it's much more than "they can't have kids", so you're being purposefully disingenuous) You're trying to pull the "ok so prove unicorns don't exist!" fast one and I'm not having it.

You argue in circles, pilpulling at every turn. You may be paid to post by my time is valuable.


 No.10260

>>10255

>there are more then enough whites

You disgust me níðingr.


 No.10261

>>10260

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