/fringe/ - Fringe

>>140329

An orgasm is an orgasm. When you orgasm, your energies (whatever that is) are being consumed to give you a short but very intense burst of pleasure. There is no transmuting the orgasm, because the orgasm itself transmutes your energies into pleasure. If you want to transmute your energy into something other than pleasure, then you have to avoid the orgasm at all costs.

>>140245

Ok I've been doing it for two weeks now, how many breaths or holds should I do? I'm at 6 rn. There's something to it, I think it's beneficial. And is it more potent if I do the shifting from left to right motion or the center muscle lock? I haven't learned to do them properly but I'm willing to learn if they help more.

>>140344

Nope still me, I just came. Fucking thing didn't work. I guess I don't want to quit all the time. Only while I recover from the last relapse

>>140353

>last relapse

It's not fucking heroin. Just stay away from porn and fap every few days if you want when you feel horny while thinking about someone IRL.

If you occasionally get to the point where you feel the urge to fuck, there is no point in repressing it and treating it as if you were a junkie.

If you stay away from artificial stimuli like porn, you will only feel horny when you meet someone you want to fuck, and don't fuck them. If you live the ascetic life, you will eventually only feel the urge whenever your body actually needs to do some maintenance work.

>>140354

How do you stay away from porn when you don't have a reason to get out of bed in the weekend when you're not working? You just sit in bed on your phone. Nothing motivates you, nothing makes you excited, nothing energizes you, not even sleep. I go months without porn but i usually sleep, do chores around the house and yoga/meditation. I don't jump up when thinking about any of the above

>>140359

So when I'm alone and bored out of my skull and I can't take the itching that the nagging mind creates for days on end, I finally cave in and search for porn. And for the first time in weeks I am excited again. And this lasts until I cum and use the press to stop most of the cum. Then we go another two weeks of trying different spiritual practices in hope that next time I won't cave in or I won't feel the need to watch it in the first place

>>140359

>>140360

You don't have a masturbation problem. You have a porn problem. Before you go thinking about doing muscle clenches to "stop most of the cum", solve your porn problem.

Whenever you feel you're about to "cave in", masturbate to orgasm instead. Think about porn if you must while you do it, but don't actually look at porn. And stay away from NSFW imageboards.

Also, your phone belongs on another room, connected to its charger. Not in your bedroom.

>>140361

makes sense

>>140374

Remember, if you must masturbate, to use your imagination only. If you can't do it like that, you don't actually want to.

In normal circumstances you would only want to fap after spending time with a girl who turns you on. You'll get there eventually and then you can think about repressing masturbating altoghether.

>>140375

Yes I know I have a porn problem, I'm op, it's in the thread title. I'm excited about porn not horny and needing to cum. I don't want to be so excited about something that hurts me but it's the only thing that makes my old heart beat fast in excitement anymore. It's the chase and the dopamine. I kept waiting for my receptors to recover and for me to enjoy other things but I've went months without it and I'm still fucking addicted to porn and enjoy it more than anything and anything else is as shitty as it's always been. No rebound.

>>140390

What the fuck is this shit? Goonan podcast? Are you retarded or I'm missing a deep meaning that will make me realize my whole life has been a lie?

>>140395

Don’t reply to spam bots, dummy.

>>139574

>>140211

Hey Fam, that instant loss of sexual excitement is a part of the process, you need that so that you can stop masturbating at some point. Enjoy your orgasm.

But if you truly wanted to prolong it, I would suggest Wim Hof breathing and edging.

>>140238

>Obviously you and I are not on the same level here.

This is /fringe/ not /cringe/

>>140238

>let them linger within.

I'd advice rather than idling them and risk untapped potential, you should find a way to give those fires and waters a purpose. You can use resources and techniques to give water to those who have not, help others use fire when they've been taught not. This is what you mean, right? This is my own mantra, and finding ways of keeping people on the right path while taking the weight off my own shoulders is what keeps me delighted

>>140410

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=3B87C337F9ACDCBD583827400D45770F

>>140410

>>139933

>>140678

Many have been asking how do I control my horniness?

Haha, if you really must ask.

There is….. question is if you really wana do whatever it takes.

The truth shall set you free.

What is the truth of the reality?

Thing about porn and beautiful women is that it is all an "illusion"

what do i mean by that?

So, which part of the girl turns you on?

"the boobs"

ok good, now, if I cut off the boobs and give it to you, do you still find it attractive?

You see, our brain needs to assemble parts together, to make it a beautiful scene which is pleasurable.

But this pleasure is so fragile.

It is so im-permanent.

break it down, and your brain will hardly find it attractive.

There's a technique that saints use to control their desire when the horniness strikes.

it's called the "impure view"

They used to just sit in front of a naked dead body.

Just observing the decomposition process.

Watching the body break down.

Just by doing thisyou suddenly realise the illusion of the mind. How fragile and unattractive the body really is.

It's just flesh, puss, blood, organs and many parts put together.

But the inside it all stinks. There's basically nothing "beautiful" about this body.

Well in modern times, we got the internet,

if you really want to control your lust emotions,

Just google or youtube,

"body decomposition,"

or

"body autopsy of girl"

Just observe the picture….. and realise the truth.

there is basically nothing beautiful about the body.

It's extereme but it works.

You just gota watch it 1-2 times.

The next time you wana control the horniness,

just picture the same image of the body in your mind…..

cuts off the desire entirely….

Yea, the truth really will set you free.

Jesus fucking Christ there's no way to quit this thing? I still coomed yesterday after all this convincing work I did. Why is this seemingly simple 'just stop bruh' moment so hard?

I'll bump this shit until someone gives us an esoteric way to conquer lust

>>141032

Who does 'us' consist of?

What makes you think your addiction stems from Lust?

>>141032

Look up the mula banda exercise.

>>141034

I've been doing these for a long time, I actually ejaculate about once or twice A YEAR. I learned the perineum press and it's very effective in achieving dry orgasm. But still, half of the lethargy and low motivation effects are there.

>>141033

"Us", "me" is the thing watching every moment of my life from somewhere inside the brain, is the awareness that chooses to act upon the random stuff that pops up in the mind and body.

I call it lust call it whatever I just know that when I'm alone and haven't fapped in the past few hours I think about this wonderful realm of porn movies that fulfill even the wildest dreams of sexual gratification. Hundreds upon hundreds of perfect pussies in the greatest fantasies the mind can conjure. They never dry up and I never got into bestiality or scat because there's just so many other realms to explore. I love it. Up until I cum. Then I feel like I'm dying slowly until I recover enough to want to repeat it. Kek. This has been my life for the past five or six years

>>141052

>>141053

Assuming these posts are the same person, let me attempt to suggest what the issue here is.

>I think about this wonderful realm of porn movies that fulfill even the wildest dreams of sexual gratification

Personally I can't stand most mainstream porn at all, I find it utterly disgusting. At first I was trying to find something I do like, because sexuality is part of the human experience and it should be there, positively. But I should point out that I don't actively watch porn "for fun" other than when trying to see if some of the ideas I come up with exist and if it's nearly as attractive as I imagined it. Often it isn't, but then that's a good reality check, I can then let that go after seeing how mediocre it is. As for real life porn, I've ended up with a very narrow set of things I find acceptable, I still don't fully understand why it ends up there, but I have some idea. Part of it is just sadism I guess. I would never call it "godlike".

To get to the approach I have here and why I'm writing this

>the perineum press and it's very effective in achieving dry orgasm. But still, half of the lethargy and low motivation effects are there.

There are some men out there who can cum up to six times in one session. I saw a comment asking how he does it, and his gf replied it's "just pushing past the pain threshold" but that really can't be it, since you also need to have an actual "lust" or "want" to continue. I concluded myself that it's not actually about if you ejaculate at all, it's about if you release some other substance or not. Anhedonic ejaculation exists. I saw rather as the goal to be able to ejaculate and not lose the motivation to keep going. It's not about if you cum or not, as women don't lose their sexual excitement from orgasm, why should you? Would it be contained in the ejaculate? It sounds illogical.

>>141055

(cont)

I'm probably close to having full control of this by now, but I'm not fully done with mentally mapping how or why it works. I do notice however that the feeling of being "dirty" or low energy doesn't for me have anything to do with ejaculating or not. It's about what material I watched. I realized I had the same feeling after a self defense training session where I practiced "gutter fighting" methods instead of doing clean traditional martial arts techniques. It's the stuff that works, but it doesn't look good. There's no way to look or feel elegant when you're practicing to smack someone in the balls and take their eyes out.

End conclusion? In this case I know that if I want to learn it, I just have to do it, despite it not being pretty. If you are able to just rest in the feeling and not associate it with being "wrong" in any way, your perception changes. So I think the lack of motivation after a session is about lack of acceptance for this part of yourself. Lack of connection to why you are engaging in the activities from a larger perspective. Do you have a greater good you are doing it for, or is it just hedonism?

>>139702

>if it maintains high you will have wet dreams

Never had one in my life, so I hold this statement in extreme doubt.

>>141096

>>139702

>if it maintains high you will have wet dreams, or your body will just cannibilize the sperm to get rid of them. Neither is good

Read the full sentence.

>>141098

Cannibalizing sperms is based though. Like Saturn swallowing his own kids. Hands-Free ethical pizzagate.

>>141056

Of course it's just hedonism, it's also escapism since most things in real life went to shit and it takes unholy amounts of work and time to be at least fixed, if even possible. In the few minutes I enjoy porn I'm in a place where I think life should have truly been for all of us. Instead we are in this hell of unfulfilled desires. I suppose ego death is the answer but it takes so much to do it I can't stick to it long enough to see a glimpse of peace.

>>139574

OP, stop wiring your brain to enjoy watching strangers fuck on the interweb

Your subconscious thinks you’re in the room watching it happen

+ flash hypnosis to this shit

Not worth the trouble, chastity ftw

Only chimps in captivity masturbate think about it you degenerate fucks

Still OP, I'm done trying to quit my only pleasure and passion in life. If I can't live with it, I won't live. Can someone give me some tips on how to kms without it looking like a voluntary act? Car accident is sus

>>141135

your problems will only get worse if you kill yourself

>>141137

I don't believe in reincarnation or the afterlife

COOMED 11/27/23

It all started from a dream that I was fucking some bitch for days on end, she was riding my cock day and night for ten days and I've missed some courses in some school I was in. Anyway, got to work and didn't even try to stop my horny compulsion. What I've learned is that most mistakes happen when I don't actually talk with the urge, I acknowledge it but do nothing to stop it. I had about five urges and only one I talked down. The others convinced me. I should do the talking down more often

COOMED 12/8/23

I HATE MYSELF. I HATE MYSELF FOR WHAT I DID. MY MIND AND MY BODY WAS CRAVING THIS UP UNTIL I COOMED. AFTER THAT I WAS ALONE LIKE ALL THE OTHER TIMES. I WISH I DIED LONG AGO. I WISH I WAS NEVER BORN. EVERY TIME IT'S THE SAME STORY. I GET FOOLED BY HORMONES. I'M DOOMED TO THIS MISTAKE UNTIL I GET OLD AND FLACCID

01/11/24

I came. There is no edging indefinitely. There is no escape. There is no freedom.

You can do it coomanon. When you feel the urge to coom, just come back here and read your previous post-coom posts. Remember what happens after you coom. Even in your strongest most irresistable urges, part of you will remember the impending aftermath and shake you back into control.

>>142410

Doesn't work. The addiction comes both from the mind and the body, there's nothing the mind can say that can turn this off. I tried

01/27/24

COOMED. Don't have anything more to add. It always goes the same way. I avoid the urge for a while, I put it in the back of my mind, then it's back. No matter how many times I tell myself I'm tricked by hormones it doesn't change the outcome.

4/2/24

COOMED. I can never go back to regular cooming. I can never go fully without cooming. I'm stuck in this state. I've been stuck for more than 7 years now. Name one method to quit, I tried it. Name one book, one video, one religion, done that.