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It's a good game, but short.

>>16876410

>Dynasty Warriors vs Sengoku Basara

Orochi? Or do you mean a vs in the sense of mechanics?

>>16876433

Oh yeah I should've clarified Sengoku Basara based off of Devil Kings and the sequels to that game titled Sengoku Basara, not Samurai Warriors. I'm talking about a crossover.

I enjoyed Band of the Hawk. I got 90 hours out of it and unlocked all the achievements for it. I do wish it was longer but I still go back to it every now and then to unwind. That's what I enjoy most about Musou games, especially Dynasty Warriors 8, you can just turn your brain off and have fun slaughtering endless waves of enemies with overpowered characters.

>>16876410

I'm busy right now with WO4U, which feels like Disgaea in Hack&Slash-form.

You just make over 170 characters absurdly powerful and it even has a reincarnation (called promotion) system, where the characters become even more OP.

My biggest gripe with this game is Infinity Mode which is honestly just boring. You NEVER fight more than one character at any given time, you only fight sword-wielding mobs, no creatures, no officers, no spearmen, no archers, no sorcerers.

If I want any semblance of variation, I have to play the main-campaign and its side-missions, which are genuinely fun (if too easy, even on Pandemonium).

FEW is still by far my favourite, even if the rooster is inexusable. But it gets so intense and chaotic, especially during the high-level History Mode missions, it's just a blast to play. And the implementation of the weapon-triangle and the pair-up system is genuinely well done.

Oh, one of the greatest things which I didn't find in any other musou-game: you can actually ORDER your partners on the map where they need to go and which camp they need to capture or which officer they need to fight or even who they need to heal.

Berserk I'm also interested in, but the small rooster, little content and that it was somewhat censored completely killed any hype for me for it.

My next projects will be Sengoku Basara 4, SW4-II and mostly DW8XL.

I'm also very interested in Legends of Troy, though wasn't able to find a copy so far.

What the fuck kind of title is "Berserk and the band of the Hawk" supposed to be? Berserk isn't a character.

>>16876410

It's unfortunately very, very mediocre and an obvious cash-in for the anime and movies, despite Koinuma trying for years to get a Berserk Musou off the ground. It doesn't help that it's abysmally worse than the PS2 game but hey. It's the second best Berserk game anyone's ever gonna get at this point.

Doesn't help that the trailers were far more hype than the actual game and Koei didn't pull this bullshit when it comes to their anime-licensed games out of fear they might get burned. And the best example is Arslan because the trailers are as

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as the game itself.

Capcom and Koei will never do a crossover unfortunately, not so much bad blood but there's a lot of other issues, one of them being the people who cared about Musou and Basara development aren't interested in making them anymore or have just moved on to other companies.

>>16876548

>FEW is still by far my favourite, even if the rooster is inexusable.

Remember to always shit on nu-Intelligent Systems for that kind of shit and never even giving a fuck about the project itself, unlike Miyamoto and Koinuma for Zelda. And remember to shit on nu-IS for poaching designs and weapons for the twins and putting them on FE Heroes. We could have Lian / Lianna have a fucking spear

>INB4 someone brings up the whole sword thing

retard prince still wouldn't get an ax, that thing was tossed away early. He would have a better design and personality though.

Other than that, it's all good. Wouldn't call it my favourite but it was an earnest try and a massive upgrade in QoL systems from Hyrule Warriors and in the action department, even if that meant the enemies were a little more brain dead that I hoped for compared to HW 3DS. Also unlike HW where the DLC and massive level increase and the bullshit weapon system made everything a fucking chore after the first LDC on the 3DS, FEW actually got better with each DLC it received. Might even be the first and only game that has ever happened and I suspect it's because Nintendo forced KT to hurry up development to meet up the final days of the N3DS and also forced them to produce an overclocked version for the Switch, and the characters were actually cut content as seen with Navarre and Owain. Ultimately, HW3DS and FEW are equal in my eyes, for different reasons.

If you should move to any other Musou, try the first Dragon Quest Heroes. You won't regret it. Just not on the Switch.

Anyone know if Fate/Extella Link was good or worth playing?

>>16877563

Really? I often found my self trying to do weapon combos and dodging around like a maniac in HW more often than not but I can see why you say that when you have obviously "fat" / heavy characters in the game compared to FEW and if you don't have the 3DS or Switch version of HW, you'd miss out on character switching on the field along with Fairy Nukes that can speed up things very much.

As for Warriors Orochi, I have a high aversion to the series after WO1. WO2 and 3 disapponted me greatly for vastly different reasons and the experience is still inferior to that of my WO1 and I actually went back to see if I was imagining things.

Maybe WO3Ultimate is good but I didn't get that, so maybe it's my fault.

>>16877595

Well it's not like I hated HW, there is a lot of effort put into it and the people making it were obviously passionate about the Zelda-franchise, which is something I respect, but I guess I could give the Switch-version a try, if they added said QoL-features from FEW.

I don't blame you for not getting into WO, WO3U is pretty fun, but to have to wait for an expansion to make the base game somewhat entertaining is a pretty lame and would naturally be a dealbreaker for customers.

I guess only fighting games can get away with this sort of "new addition patch".

>>16877645

The WiiU version despite the nice graphics is a big chore to playthrough and it's mostly due to Hardware, not so much the game itself, remember, N3DS had a better and more stable frame than the WiiU. So when the Switch gets that + all the crazy shit that couldn't be shown in the cutscene finishers of the 3DS version, you can see what a slog it was to develop it there. To put it into perspective, they made an entirely new and separate engine for the 3DS version of HW and used that engine to make FEW. And mid-way through FEW, they ported that engine to the Switch and upon that iteration, they figured out the kinks and made the Switch version of HW. It's why FEW on the DS is not only the most intense game on the system, it's one built to push it to the absolute limit, like all end-cycle games should.

For WO, it's a bit complicated. For me, having been with the Musou series from the very start, actually playing DW2 and marvelling at one of my video game dreams coming true as a, I wanna say 13yo, when I first played the demo at a local videogame store and DW5 and SW1 became my favourites very quickly for what they did and the characters they had. SW2 not so much but I did like how they took a lighthearted jab at Capcom by making their Date Masamune get the weapons of Dante while Capcom just gave theirs his DMC3 personalityit's because the people who DMC1 and 3 really liked DMC3 Dante who, rumour has it, was ghostwritten by Langdon and Kobayashi himself, who later went on to create Basara and manage RE5 and 6 and that was that. Come 2008 and WO1 drops and I fucking love it. PS2 and PSP versions are out and I fall in love with portable WO1 since having an actual Musou on the go was what I wanted ever since I got Samurai Warriors State of War.

Come WO2 / Maou Sairin and you have everyone hyping themselves up for how awesome it'll be, especially when news arrive about how the nip version will have the Strike Force costumes, Yoshitsune and motherfucking Benkei who everyone was hyped about since he was initially presented as Archer, with him having Suwabe as his voice actor and his first magazine scan has him with the Unlimited Blade Works field. Obviously that's not how things went and even characters like Son Goku / Sun Wukong were underwhelming, especially when Koei had featured them in other games in a much, much better fashion. It was basically Samurai Warriors' Goemon situation all over again but for about 4 new playables. And then came the gameplay changes and they were horrible beyond belief.

Fast forward to when WO3 comes out, I get it and I'm having a blast initially. The time traveling stuff is fun, the way the story progresses in that is pretty good and I can overlook the fact that we're playing with SW3 and DW7 characters that don't exactly have the best movesets, moreso the DW7 characters because fuck them. After I finish it and unlock all the characters I want it becomes a slog : the old systems have been revamped to something very questionable, the bullshit weapon attributes that broke the game completely in WO2 return, you can't initially swap characters around, you have now a ton of MMO-like systems that are a slog to go through, like the fucking camp, the levels aren't that interesting and are very scripted, PS3 version runs at 30FPS, major type changes happened all arpund and typing doesn't much anymore, bullshit story etc. And then I went back to WO1 and I could do DMC3 bullshit with Date Masamune simply because he was a Speed character and his moveset lent itself to the playstyle flawlessly. And then you had the infinitely better movesets from DW characters…I just couldn't go back to WO3.

Now, despite the MMO bullshit systems that WO4 has, I'm intrigued to see how DW8 characters and SW4 characters play like in 60FPS and with some enhancements that I hear can make you go really fast. That intrigues me a tiny bit. But if I'm honest, WO1 to me is the height of old Koei and I still play it a whole lot. Maybe WO4U will change my mind but WO4 Vannila certainly didn't do me any favours at fucking all. While SW4 is shit, the movesets and the costumes are quite good so there's that and I see that some of my favourite characters got their WO1 typing in WO4, while DW8 was all around excellent, even if they sacrificed my boys Gan Ning and Guan Ping to the altair of shit, in order for everyone else to go from mediocre to awesome and from awesome to even more awesome.

/blogpost about my love-hate relationship with WO

What’s the best musou game on the vita?

So should I get WO4U or Fate/Extella Link? Honestly never played a Warriors Orochi game and I have watched a few Fate anime. Plus Fate/Extella Link is a few bucks cheaper. Unfortunately pirating is not an option for me right now. By now I've heard mixed things about both games but I can tell WO4U has way more characters and modes so I'm leaning towards that.

>>16879634

I can tell you about Spirit of Sanada : if you have Samurai Warriors 4-II, it's not worth it for one cool new addition of acharacter and you can get the OST on the net. If you know moonrunes or know about BASARA, just get Yukimura Den instead as it came out the same time and focus onthe same thing as Sanadamaru. For the trade-off of having the worst soundtrack in the Basara series, you get some uppened difficulty, new gimmicks, 6 new players essentially, even if 4 of them are Masamune and Yukimura again, while you get a new Style system.

>>16878831

WO4U, even though you'll be lost on some plot details. It acts as a somewhat soft reboot of the series by reintroducing everyone to each other.

FEL I hate with a fucking passion. One of the worst musou-likes underneath even Tamsoft (who I at least admire for their commitment to fanservice)

>>16880230

Damn really one of the worst? From what I've heard the combat is good and better than Umbral Star, but the story is short and kinda shit. Thing is for me combat in a musou game is my top priority for how I judge a game but also going by what >>16877563 said it seems like it lacks side-content. What I've heard in regards to WO4U is that it has quite a few side-content to do but some of them are worthless. I'll probably still lean towards WO4U just on the fact that it has more characters and probably a better story, though I'm curious on what you specifically hated about FEL?

>>16880267

I'm kind of afraid for OP4, on the acountof OPW2 being the shittiest game of the three. Seems like quite often Koei can't into even numbered entries for some reason.

>>16880806

The changes sound fine so far in paper, with special abilities per character being mapped to R1 plus button, with specific cooldowns on abilities and most characters having more than 3-4 R1 type attacks, as well as the ability to jump manually.

However, I have not heard anything at all about modes besides story mode. Also 9 DLC characters.

>>16880265

What I specifically hate about FEL is one, the battlefields are all just rooms connected by instant teleport hallways, It makes traveling through each battlefield very very boring to me. Second, the characters don't really develop or can be changed on a gameplay level. You get a pretty bog standard moveset for each character, and a few special attacks, with all of them being absurdly powerful that it takes any skill (either overcoming strong enemies, or getting high combos) out of the window.

Third, the kill counts are so absurdly high that mooks feel meaningless when you can down 6,000 of them in ten minutes, and the boss battles are just mindless mashing even by Koei standards.

>>16877827

I liked playing Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires on it. I tried playing Dynasty Warriors: NEXT and absolutely hated it. Too much reliance on gimmicky touch control QTEs that made the game piss easy by essentially 1-hitting enemies.

>>16881259

Agreed, wish she had more personality outside of DW8's free mode and DW9 though. I should see/remind myself of what she is like in WO4.

Wonder what anime musou Koei has plans for after OPW4. Wish they would make more Gundam ones. Also would be cool to see a Hellsing musou.

Daily reminder Casca liked it

>>16880176

That sucks, I'll still probably get around it eventually since I only recently got into SW and I want more. The combat is much better than your typical musou game.

>>16881851

Thing about the Gundam musous is they all included different series in each game so it wouldn't just be focused on IBO, thankfully. Also are you sure Drifters is more popular than Hellsing overall? I'm not sure about manga sells. Though I still see people with Alucard and Seras profile pictures and hardly see anyone bring up Drifters. It's also been like 3 years and we haven't gotten a Drifters 2nd season. Both of them having a musou game would be cool though.

>>16883328

It was pretty ok.

If you want a great anime musou check out >>16880267

Can someone please explain to me in a way you would explain to a mongoloid child, what the hell the difference between SW4 and SW4-II is. I read everything remotely related on the internet but didn't find anything conclusive.

As far as I understood: SW4's story was clan-based and SW4-II's story is character based.

So I need to play both to get the whole experience?

>>16881851

I wouldn't mind IBO taking the spotlight if it meant another Gundam musou.

Hell, DW Gundam 4 was 90% SEED faggots, so in my mind it would be an improvement.

Just know that you would have Amuro, Char, Kamille, Heero and the rest knocking about too.

Though its not a downside, i'd love to have a crossover storyline where Domon and Master Asia embrace the newcomers for following the way of melee combat as opposed to the rest of the beam/funnel/bit spamming retards

>>16883616

SW4-II is basically legally-distinct Xtreme Legends for SW4 because they lost a lawsuit with Capcom. You don't have to play both, but both games each offer different growth systems and different side modes.

Spirit of Sanada is neat game up until chapter 9.

>>16880267

I liked it on Vita in spite of the downgrades (less units on screen and a rather tanky framerate) but it was a real pity to see a garbage PC port. Hoping OPW4 on PC wont be the same technically

>>16883636

You kidding? Heero becoming Master Asia's disciple was my favourite thing in GW1. I'm just sad that he didn't learn any Hyakuretsuken like moves from the man.

I just hope that they go back to the graphical style of 3 and get a storymode like 1's.

Man I really liked the Jin and Wu stories in DW8.

>>16885312

I started with Wei, and so far it's ok, but most of the Wei-faction have pretty barebones move-set and nothing too exotic or cuhrazy. Though I just got Jia Xu.

>>16885976

Wei are like Dante with the Rebelion / Vergil with the Yamato in 3. They are just appropriately stylish and practical as fuck. Wu and Shu are the CUUUUUHHHRAZHEEE and exotic ones respectively though the Jin also have their oddballs as well.

>>16885976

Jin is where shit gets crazy, either by them being set in the late era of the period, or being the most recent additions to the game in general.

Was thinking about making a top 10 character move-set list but it'd be tough deciding who makes the list seeing as there's 80-something characters in the game. Will think it over and post the result.

>>16886115

>Also, who is that one (or multiple) musou-officer, that you always dread fighting?

I can fight anyone easily, except maybe Honda and Lu Bu 1v1. I hate it when suddenly there are 4+ enemy officers grouped together and they all want a piece of you. Or worse, they are all targeting an important objective at once.

>>16886183

>most women in the game is prime wife material.

>mfw lolicon/shotacon

>mfw for some reason Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao do nothing for me at all

Guess I should just make my own waifu in DW8E.

>>16876410

>I think the Berserk musou wasn't bad.

It's literally cash-in trash. Not only is there a small roster, the characters have copypasted moves from other musou games that don't even suit those characters. They were trying to be as cheap as they could possibly get away with while selling on name alone.

One Piece Warrior's 4 is out.

So far it seems like a cut down version of 3 with more of the recent chapters of the manga being a focus rather than the over all story. Game throws you straight into Alabasta for mission 1, meaning that meeting and recruiting, Zoro, Nami, Sanji, Usopp and Chopper is all told in a damn cutscene with assets and movies taken from 3.

Combat is a bit more flighty, meaning that there's a dedicated button for jumping to aerial combo and dashing anytime which is weirdly fun and useful. Even has the same blue like menu that Aot Final Battle and I think DW9 used.

>>16891592

>meaning that meeting and recruiting, Zoro, Nami, Sanji, Usopp and Chopper is all told in a damn cutscene with assets and movies taken from 3.

Good, I really didn't need to see all that shit again for the XXth time. DLing it right now, by God, I hope that it's good.

>>16891592

Since I have no connection to the source material, I'm having a blast with every face button being a comboable attack of some sort.

RIP Garp though.

>>16891602

Played a mission with Zoro before heading to bed. They've updated the engine alot so when Zoro uses 1080 pound phoenix you really feel it. Super attacks are now abilities you can trigger, as well as a rage like mode you need against named characters. You'll need lock on against flying units to target and stun them. Best moment was using Rage mode, which does unlock other attacks, as Zoro's basic X attacks didn't include his hidden blade one. And that speeds everything up. When you're zooming around in rage mode just laying waste to everything it's pretty great.

Coins return but they're easy to get. Berry to upgrade stuff as well, but I'm not earning the crazy amounts of like 600k per mission anymore.

>>16891605

>Berry

Is it Berry or Beli?

>>16891605

So far I've played 3 hours or so and it's exactly what I was hoping for: Pirate Warriors 3 but with improved mechanics. The only thing I don't like is the story, I don't get why they chose such a weird starting point. It doesn't start at the beginning, but it also doesn't start where PW3 left off, so it's the worst of both worlds. New players only get a very short summary of the story so far, while series veterans will, again, have to play the same story they've already played before. At least some events get more coverage and have new cutscenes than in PW3.

>>16891610

Berry

>>16883782

This. The best way to do these games is the way 1 did which is by giving some quick reason why they are all together and then focus on how the different characters act towards eachother.

I am pretty fucking ready for PW4 at this point, 3 was neat. It's a shame there are so many One Piece games but all of them are shit, with this exception. The voice acting cast must be rolling in dosh at this point.

>>16891602

>>16891592

My dudes, Alabasta arc was 20 years ago soon, It makes sense to cut a whole lot of shit for a current Wan Piss.

>>16891604

What no more Garp?!

>>16892087

Garp got demoted to NPC, yep. I kinda hope he's in the season pass's 9 characters, but also would like some new faces. Bit of a "I don't know what I really want" situation.

>>16892158

Oh, also Moria and Perona are gone. I don't know if all of Thriller Bark is just removed, but they aren't around at least.

>>16892087

>My dudes, Alabasta arc was 20 years ago soon, It makes sense to cut a whole lot of shit for a current Wan Piss.

Obviously, yeah but I don't get why the game starts at the midpoint of PW3 instead of continuing on from the ending. Now I have to watch Ace die again for the millionth time

>>16892158

>Garp got demoted to NPC, yep

I hope my insanely OP boy Kizaru is still playable.

>>16892159

Thriller Park is now only a cutscene.

>>16892193

Kizaru is playable. The game rolls out the character select screen in waves, with some characters being revealed once you get within some sort of range of unlocking them.

>>16892203

>Kizaru is playable.

Thank God, he was so much fun in 3.

OPPW4's soundtrack is great. The mission overview music gets me kinda hyped.

>>16892203

Did they ever make Sengoku playable? i'd love to have Admiral Afro Buddha in a Musou

>>16892686

He's rumored to be playable. The intro to treasure log shows several playable characters at the end, for some reason Sengoku is there.

Is the Steam-version of PW4 any good?

What knowing how Koei usually treats their IPs on PC-releases, I'm particularly careful about this.

At least in the reviews I read, it has some trouble recognizing the XBox-Controller, unless you use big-picture mode or something like that.

Does it have nice jiggle on Nami and Robin?

>>16876410

The combat was okay, but I feel like when you have 30+ years of manga (mostly from Idol Master idling but still) that a roster of, what, eight? Maybe 10 if you count Femto and Beserk Armor Guts? The second it came out on Steam it honestly felt DOA. I think the only thing I ever saw on the news (one of the few times I would ever even used that, because I wanted to see ANYTHING). Maybe Hyrule Warriors spoiled me with all the fanservice, but I felt a bit disappointed.

>>16892966

For what it's worth, it's the first Koei port I've ever played that actually has graphic options and it also runs better on my machine than PW3 did. I didn't have any problems with it recognizing my DS4 controller and I believe you can fix the controller problem by enabling Xbox Gamepads in the Steam controller options. I can't say anything about the jiggle physics as I haven't unlocked them yet but PW3 had it and I doubt that they removed it.

>>16893923

Sorry to hear that. Also buy more RAM.

how are the one piece ones? there are 4 of them already?

>>16895897

Pretty good. Pirate Warriors 3 is PS3 era musou as far as gameplay with a more comprehensive overview of the series, while PW4 has more newer things like full aerial movesets and R1 plus face button special moves.

I heard people mention that the sengoku basara series consists of actually good games that people with taste can appreciate. is this really true or did I only witness the delusions of shit-eating musoufags?

>>16905787

Yes, Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi blows most musou games out of the water as far as gameplay depth, it's just kinda old at this point and Capcom has left the series dormant.