6082c5 No.16822728[Last 50 Posts]
Build autistic projects, discuss autistic projects.
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f09f8c No.16822806
i drive car fast and kill biters nyeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooowwwwwwwwwwww DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA vrrooommm
im gud factorioer
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6082c5 No.16822853
>>16822806
What is the point of the boxes?
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61a9f4 No.16822903
>>16822853
dunno, but now i want to run them over with a tank
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f09f8c No.16823179
>>16822853
wall
it was a big game (for you) with 450 people on and we expanded quick-like.
(p.s. pic isn't mine, it's just a 4k one someone posted; that discord shit on the left ain't me)
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fcc8fb No.16823309
>>16822728
>automation
Programming games ok?
I tended to get efficient results on other designs but this one resulted in a particularly bad one.
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82322b No.16823312
>>16823309
Fuck I gotta play Shenzhen I/O it looks so fun.
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fcc8fb No.16823646
>>16823312
I'm unsure how accurate it would be to say it's like programming assembly.
>fun
Truly, the funnest part of the game is solitaire.
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6082c5 No.16823660
How can I make a better train setup that like, has multiple stations for unloading? Something like pic related
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d31a38 No.16823664
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6082c5 No.16823677
>>16823660
Wait, why are they locked up now
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49ff67 No.16823794
>>16823677
Signalling. put a signal on the curve bit between the two straight rails perhaps?
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fcc8fb No.16824072
>>16823664
How far into the game are you?
Don't you know about the hidden instructions yet?
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85f58a No.16824093
>>16823179
Never even knew that game was multiplayer. It was one of those ones that looked like it'd be interesting but crossed that fine line from entertaining autism to laborious autism pretty quickly for me.
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6082c5 No.16824210
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>>16824093
Factorio is pretty amazing. The game, modded for more content and HR textures and content, only uses 750mb ram and is only hitting at most 10% on my cpu. Even on a refurb Thinkpad from 8 years ago, it runs well. The game is deterministic and can even support turing complete logic (video, they made an engine in the game)
The only shitty part is that the mod API could be a little better (can't define tile behavior, and I think buildings have to mimic existing buildings). Also the multiplayer has rubber banding when vehicles are involved
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6082c5 No.16824218
>>16824210
Oh, but as a downside, I think that the Steam release is a negative point, since it would be amazing as a standalone game. The in-game mod portal is pretty robust too. Another drawback would be the combat, biters are just "there" and being able to have more mod API control could yield more interesting conflict mods.
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a0f675 No.16824232
>>16824218
You can get the DRM free build from their homepage.
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49ff67 No.16824435
>>16824210
eventually, there is going to be factorio in factorio, with a self building factory to expand the circuit network array.
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6082c5 No.16824447
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>>16824435
There's a mod that lets robots use blueprints, so you can use the circuit network to conditionally build things automatically.
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6082c5 No.16825089
Oh hey, this is starting to get good. I have a chain of about 4-5 subfactories (one for each stage in refinement) so I can freely move blocks of buildings if I have to (to account for poor logistics)
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55057a No.16828353
Here's a good server. We're kinda low on players. Most of the time it's empty.
https://smuglo.li/vg/res/1796.html
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55057a No.16830013
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0f9cfc No.16831238
>>16828353
From the pics in the thread it looks kind of done.
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55057a No.16831281
>>16831238
Well, it kind of is.
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6082c5 No.16837768
Up to about 57 hours now, almost have blue science
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4318e7 No.16838768
>>16823646
>I'm unsure how accurate it would be to say it's like programming assembly.
I most ways, assembly is a lot easier. Shenzhen I/O places a lot of arbitrary imitations on you to make the puzzles actual puzzles. The more difficult thing about assembly programming tends to be the documentation and sheer size of the instruction set.
Shenzhen is hard because it has less, but is easier to understand.
ASM is easier because it is more powerful, but is harder to learn.
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6082c5 No.16838901
>68 hours in
>Cleared one or two biter expansions that had finally crept too close, and with a little difficulty (they're about 33% evolved, but 90-120m expansion rate, and my military is kinda far behind)
>Still no blue science
>Have aluminium starting to get produced, still need gold and some other stuff to even think about the next chipsets which are needed for blue science
>768 stacks of nickel
>Tempted to just blow up my warehouse and build a new one
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a0f675 No.16838914
>>16838901
you gonna need that nickel later in huge quantities
just suck it up and build more warehouses, or build a 4d warehouse complex cince youre using factorissimo
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6082c5 No.16838975
>>16838914
Well, fair enough. It's pretty cheap to build more warehouses, since I have something like 20-50k of iron and steel laying around, since my logistics suck. I like to use them as a buffer for output. All the 4 belt stuff is lane balanced internally, too.
I guess the nickel is designed to be "wasteful" early on?
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a0f675 No.16838993
>>16838975
Nickel is useless early game but you need it for invar, tungsten and nitinol which are used in basically every t3 craft and building. Nitinol especially is the late game equivalent of iron.
Its better to have 6 million stacks of it sitting in a warehouse for the next 20 hours than kicking yourself in the nuts 20 hours later when it bottlenecks your entire production.
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6082c5 No.16839580
How's that new game Automation Empire? It looks like a very watered down logistics game with none of the depth of Factorio. Looks pretty, though.
And I assume Satisfactory is still not amazing
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f09f8c No.16839635
>>16824093
yea it's good. I don't find factorio as fun sp as with at least 2-4 people.
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a0f675 No.16840312
>>16839635
Depends. If you play vanilla that SP is ideal, Angelbobs is ideally played in multiplayer unless you significantly turn down bugger evolution like I did in my current playthrough.
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a0f675 No.16840314
>>16839635
Depends. If you play vanilla that SP is ideal, Angelbobs is ideally played in multiplayer unless you significantly turn down bugger evolution like I did in my current playthrough.
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f09f8c No.16840336
>>16840312
angelbobs is vile and for fuckheads. it takes like a trillion hours to do anything. i can't vroom in a car until after like 2 days of IRL time.
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a0f675 No.16840341
>>16840336
Angelbobs is fun as fuck as long as you pair it with IAA vehicles. Then you can have chaingun tanks from the get go and all is gucci.
Except petrochem, nothing is gucci about petrochem.
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a0f675 No.16840368
speaking of Angelbobs, bob added a steam powered assembler sidegrade and its OP as all fuck in the hobo phase
its researched with automation 1 and has a crafting speed of 2
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6082c5 No.16840630
>>16840341
What's so bad about petrochem? I haven't got advanced circuits quite yet
>>16840368
If you're playing on regular settings, you can research past it way too quick for it to be relevant. I'm playing expensive with 5x research cost, and early on, you pretty much need it as your assembler because iron is so scarce and you need proper automation asap. With classic assemblers turned on (limited item slots) you need them to use 3-4 item recipes, which is a nice little gimmick for them. Steam powered mining drills are also cool.
In general, the tooltip for both of them is misleading because it sounds like it's only running at like 20% efficiency but it BTFOs out electric stuff, which surprised me.
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6082c5 No.16840639
>>16840368
>>16840630
Oh and another thing that threw me off guard was the half-speed basic belts. Shit's slow, but comfy
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a0f675 No.16840977
>>16840630
>What's so bad about petrochem?
Once you accustom yourself with the system, everything.
>Everything is interconnected, waste products are 9 out of 10 times invaluable ressources that you absolutely have to buffer in ridiculous amounts of pressurized tanks
>theres like 3 outputs for every operation
>cracking alone takes up as much space as half your regular production
and the best part: it takes the usual angelbobs syndrome of "I need x, in order to produce x I need y, in order to produce y you need z,k and n" and warps it onto itself in a recursive time loop
>If you're playing on regular settings, you can research past it way too quick for it to be relevant.
not really, their performance scales with boiler tiers, you can still use them late game
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0f9cfc No.16840994
>>16840336
Try pyanodons mods for a while, then go back to bobangel. It will seem a lot easier.
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6082c5 No.16845423
Well boys and girls it only took me 80 hours, but now I have an exoskeleton and robots
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a0f675 No.16845429
>>16845423
>that slanted grid
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6082c5 No.16845432
>>16845429
Pray tell how you can arrange solars more space efficiently
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3a22c2 No.16845436
How do I play this game without looking up a guide, or having to rework my entire factory every time some new item becomes available?
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6082c5 No.16845444
>>16845436
You just need to make science packs to get more tech. So you just follow the chain of items to make the science pack and occasionally grab a tech that makes your life easier. Oh, and just make your factory right the first time.
The game is infinitely better if you don't steal blueprints or designs entirely. I mean reference something if you get stuck but some of the fun is "solving" a certain production chain
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6fdb30 No.16845446
>>16845436
>having to rework my entire factory every time some new item becomes available
By making sure there's room to expand before said item becomes available. Also understand that you'll always need more space than you think you do. Leave space for new things to be produced, leave space for new belts to go by.
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a0f675 No.16845447
>>16845432
Well, you cant. I just use a square BP with some excess accumulators in order to avoid aneurisms.
>>16845436
Build a bus and produce only from the bus. That way you never have to rebuild anything.
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9f8943 No.16845501
>>16845432
The amount of space you save is trivial. You'll probably fit in a handful of extra solar panels at the expense of making it weird and skewed and waste space at the outer edges.
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6082c5 No.16845642
>>16845447
Why do you have raw (crushed?) ore on the bus? I know there's some recipes that call for eg iron ore but not like saphirite. What's the yellow shit under your steel? Whats the best way to consume slag and stone? I always just use mineral water and a clarifier, since I think slag is kinda needless on non seablock
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0f9cfc No.16845694
>>16845436
Leave space between setups and snake belt back and forth everywhere.
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a0f675 No.16845695
>>16845642
>Why do you have raw (crushed?) ore on the bus? I know there's some recipes that call for eg iron ore but not like saphirite
Its RAW raw straight from the drill. I feed multiple processing trees and cant be fucked building a whole separate bus for it now that long reach doesnt work. If you wanna do ferromixing, which I do in absolutely excessive amounts, putting ores on a/the bus is mandatory anyway.
>What's the yellow shit under your steel?
Thats just the fugly shinybob tacos.
>Whats the best way to consume slag and stone?
slag > dust > stone > landfill
alternatively stone > walls for early game compression
voiding dust is a legit way to deal with it until you can sludge it, sludging still gives you rare ressources
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0f9cfc No.16845727
>>16845695
>now that long reach doesnt work
Far reach breh
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a0f675 No.16845734
>>16845727
Far reach is hardcoded 1000 tiles, I always rocked 1500.
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54a5a9 No.16845765
>>16839580
I think satisfactory will really be something in a few years. It's not a bad time though.
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6082c5 No.16845789
>>16845695
>shinybob tacos
I still have no idea what resource this is. Is it the yellow chipboard base thing?
>ferromixing
Oh yeah, I saw this in the tree and FNEI but I never took advantage of it before. Mainly since I'm on a railworld, nothing is sparse and I can just mine more. Similarly, I cant be fucked to process geodes yet
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a0f675 No.16845809
>>16845789
>I still have no idea what resource this is. Is it the yellow chipboard base thing?
T1 chips, the icons are different because of shinybobs.
>but I never took advantage of it before
how does 100% efficiency on lowest tier tickle your fancy? the raw iron output is fucking insane
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6082c5 No.16845847
>>16845809
>The raw iron output is fucking insane
So maybe that's better for seablock, then. Right now, I still don't have blue science automated and I have about 150k iron stockpiled because I'm so slow to do things properly
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55057a No.16845988
I'd still be happy if some of you joined
>>16828353
There's still lots to be done
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6082c5 No.16846299
Oh hey something interesting happened. I was attacked! The nest was about 7 spawners and a bunch of medium worms, had to upgrade to red ammo and use grenades to deal with it. How exciting
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0b483f No.16848498
Anybody have a magnet link for the new Satisfactory update?
Looks like they changed a lot, added pipes and fluids, and generally redid the research system.
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6082c5 No.16848576
>Seablock
>Hey what happens if I set the map type from normal to island
Jesus
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a0f675 No.16848966
>>16848576
why would you wanna play seablock
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4a5f7c No.16848974
>>16848966
>he doesn't appreciate many different ways to play his favorite games
Your autism is weak.
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6082c5 No.16849133
>>16848966
Seablock is great
>Not wanting to play Factorio as an idle game, via Seablock marathon mode on a single chunk (with Factorissimo) with increased research cost, so it takes literally 4 hours to research your first tech
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6082c5 No.16849392
>>16849133
Now I have assemblers and charchoal
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6082c5 No.16849484
>Take 400 science to get either Slag Processing or Iron Smelting
>Slag Processing is probably better because it gives me more base ore and doesn't need steel to make in the first place, and is a fairly small space
>400 science = 800 iron at 1.7 iron/m = 7.8h to get slag
>Space is tight
>Would cost me 5,300 iron to get enough research and materials to build a single Factorissimo building, or about 51.9 hours
Fuck
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16ae44 No.16849515
>>16848498
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bab03aa2aff7ff50186c3bd8be46da93853c18f7&dn=Satisfactory%20by%20xatab&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentor.org%3a2710&tr=http%3a%2f%2fretracker.local%2fannounce
This one worked. RIP all my supply chains. It'll be interesting to rebuild from the husk of a defunct factory-city.
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16ae44 No.16849518
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6082c5 No.16850405
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6082c5 No.16850578
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6082c5 No.16853528
>>16850578
So what I've found is that every single windmill makes a huge difference on the rate of charcoal consumed. Even 5 can appreciably make the difference between whether a setup is sustainable or not. As a result, Slag Processing takes up too much space, unless I stockpile a huge amount of carbon, flip it over, and burn through it. But that seems like a lot of legwork.
I produce 1.8 iron/m and I need 5100 plates to get Factorissimo going, or about 48 hours of idling. I can do that, but I was also considering putting up another chunk a few map tiles away, strictly for windmills. In a way, I'd then have several unconnected islands.
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0f9cfc No.16853532
>>16853528
>I produce 1.8 iron/m
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410f55 No.16853594
>>16853528
If thats your production you should reconsider your setup, seablock or not. Also if you run seablock AND factorissimo at the same time youre kinda defeating the purpose of seablock.
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6082c5 No.16853607
>>16853594
>>16853532
I would argue that ot doesn't really matter since by the time you get to the point where you need to constantly expand, you should have several washing facilities to shit out mud for landfill. Functionally, they both do the same thing, expand your building area.
>Production
Keep in mind I'm on marathon mode which takes 5:1 crushed to a bar, and only recently got to 5:3. When I started I wanted to try a single chunk game but it's just not feasible (hence my thought of using factorissimo)
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0f9cfc No.16869934
>>16853607
So, have you collected enough to build your first gear yet?
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0f9cfc No.16869938
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6082c5 No.16869947
>>16869934
I don't want to talk about what happened to the gear
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d06468 No.16878914
Looking at mods for a fresh factorio run. How's bob's stuff? Generally just looking for more tech/bugs/guns/stuff to do.
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410f55 No.16878955
>>16878914
Angelbobs is the go-to autism pack. Bobs introduces more complex intermediary product chains and defenses while Angels introduced a bunch of refining and raw processing shit.
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0f9cfc No.16886093
So apparently people think the new beacons are the phantom menace of factorio.
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6082c5 No.16886119
>>16886093
I never usually got far enough or cared to use beacons. I like the old design though, because of the gray and radar. You could tell what it did at a glance. This just looks like a lightning rod
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9f8943 No.16886132
>>16886119
Yeah the old design direction was better. This design doesn't communicate that it's radiating some kind of power around it, in fact it looks more like an antenna that receives power.
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0f9cfc No.16900176
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>>16886132
Yeah the antenna doesn't really scream "emitter" in the same way the old rotating reverse crescent one does. The new one's got potential for some neat stuff like lightning jumping between antennas but it looks more like an electric turret than anything.
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6082c5 No.16900503
Today's FFF update deals with some audio tweaks
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-341
I hope they one day make it open source or add extreme mod support for full conversions. The engine is just so well made, uses few resources, and runs really well. Imagine an RTS proper, or some kind of RPG in this engine
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3a22c2 No.16900540
>>16886093
They definitely look out of place. Maybe is they were colored a more metallic color they would look better.
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6082c5 No.16900557
>>16900540
Factorio's aesthetic is old, junky shit cobbled together in a mishmash of parts. They look too clean and pristine, compared to the rugged look of everything else.
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6082c5 No.16906138
Is there a mod that makes Factorio a little more … I dunno, the game feels static. Even with biters, they're more of a trivial and formality thing and not really interactive.
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6082c5 No.16907770
Okay, decided to give Rampant a shot. I don't usually like combat stuff, though. I'm basically running Seablock pack (minus seablock itself), a handful of QOL stuff (armor reach, even distribution, helmod, etc), and there's a cool thing called Cargo Ships which adds a bunch of oil and ships (which are implemented as cargo wagons being pushed by an engine)
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84a0fd No.16907860
im a filthy pirate, where can i get angelbob for v18.18?
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b0d0d5 No.16909404
>>16845447
Does the Bus Design actually hold? I've found it to be a logistic nightmare, honestly.
Every branch you take half the products from the main bus so if you start with 800/minute, the first branch will get 400/m, the second 200/m, the third 100/m etc.
If I have all branches working at full capacity, the first branch will eat most supplies and leave almost nothing to the last branches.
I've considered using extractors instead since at least those give me a constant outflow at every branch and I can increase it as needed by placing more of them, but even that doesn't seem to work as well as I wanted.
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410f55 No.16911421
>>16909404
a bus works as well as you want it to
not enough iron? quad belt it
still not enough iron? put iron sheet coils on the belt which quadruples plate density
still not enough iron? feed more from the side
if at this point youre not getting enough iron its time to build dedicated facilities for whatever youre producing
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