/v/ - Video Games

Tell us your gpu first because these days branding is what makes it easier to identify whether or not it's worth an upgrade.

Dubs

Check temperatures, make sure you're not overheating.

When you crash does it always bluescreen or does it sometimes just turn off?

Have you tried removing all drivers and reinstalling from scratch?

When you bluescreen, what's the error code you get?

What's your RAM configuration like? You're not pairing up mis-matched RAM are you?

>Modern games look like absolute trash, with washed-out colors, blurry visuals, oily textures and shitty lod

<they somehow run worse than older games that look way better

PC gayming is truly in it's worst state it's ever been. Sure, more consoleshit exclusives get ported, but most of them aren't even fun, and they're all fucking ugly despite running like shit. There isn't a single new game where I'm not practically forced to use reshade to improve the colors and sharpness.

Doesnt sound like a gpu problem. Try a fresh install first.

>>16642854

Better off than me actually.

When GPU is dying it starts with graphical errors like abnormal lines that appear even on your desktop, not game crashes.

t. some who has killed 3 gpus in the past decade

It's his RAM you fucking retards, not his CPU, PSU or GPU.

>OP still at (1)

>Dubs

>>16642865

>off by one

>>16642847

geforce 750 ti

I actually thought it was just the dust, didn't bother opening my computer case up for about 2 years now and it was everywhere. but no, same blue screen error, "machine exception check", only thing that happened was that after dusting off the whole thing, I got a "clock overload" or some other, then back to machine exception. Thinking of just lowering my settings for games until I upgrade

Get a SSD and reinstall the OS on it you mong

>>16642864

>>16642860

How do I actually know any of those things are a culprit? been checking up on my ram, my hard drive ect, and it looks like everything should be fine.

>>16642850

I've had a problem 2 years ago when the computer would just turn off only happened a couple times tho, now, blue screens are all the rage. Not sure about the over heating, it's pretty jot here, but my fans should be workig, and it used to be even hotter than this. I'm thinking of installing new drivers for everything, what should I prioritize?

>>16642874

Is it worth it to run some games on a SSD and just get it over with? it seems my HDD has no problems, as I am testing it, so I dunno if that would be the issue

>>16642869

Yeah you can use an upgrade but honestly just play on low specs until next gen since the RTX line proved to be total shit and the RTX 2080 is too pricey to matter. Unless like me you have a graphics card from a decade ago that was Intel integrated then don't upgrade.

>>16642885

it really pisses me off how only a few years ago, I could play my games just fine on high settings, but now, I literally cannot anymore, due to old age. say what you want about console shitters, at least they don't have to deal with this

Speaking of which, what would be a low costm high quality gpu that plays most things on non-potato quality these days?

>>16642890

Depends, 90% of the time it depends on what you can find, I managed to find a cheap 1050 that can run new games at 40-60 fps on low settings and might hold off for 2-5 years until next gen for $30 but it sounds like you're situation so anything from

The GTX 1660

1070

1080

To the RTX 2060, 70, and 80.

Problem is only 3 games support Ray Tracing, and if someone has Ray Tracing off on say Womenshield V they'll get a better fps than someone on a 60 and 70 but if both of you have Ray Tracing on the RTX 2060 ironically completely shits on the 1080.

So if you're certain you can afford to buy one generation after another, then a 1080 ti is still worth buying and will easily give you high specs 60fps+ without ray tracing for 5 years until Nvidia finally produces a decent fucking card.

The RTX 2080 might might be worth it because it'll hold out for 2-3 generations likely however it'll be on the low end once the newer cards come out and have the same Ray Tracing capabilities either for cheaper or for better.

You mostly have to evaluate build compatibility and budget here. Stuff like the cpu, ram, power supply, etc.

>>16642883

Games on SSD aren't really that important, it's the OS that makes a night and day difference. Since a shit ducktaped together pajeet-tier OS like Windows is constantly running in the background, it has to fetch and store things from its install all the time. SSD is great at fetching and storing, so when your RAM (which is also a problem like other anons say) is full it's able to write to the pagefile without taking 10 minutes.

>>16642904

How would I know I have a RAM problem and what should I do about it? I'm sure the hardware is fine, don't know what could bloat it up or fuck it up, tho

>>16642911

Go into your BIOS and run a ram check. You still haven't told us what your configuration is like, you better not be mixing and matching

>>16642917

I'm currently running a test on my pc, and can't post that, will come back when it's done, and I will check BIOS as for that rom check as well

Does vegetation turn pink?

>>16642943

no, nothing like that, just blue screen when playing games

Specs:

Processor-Intel Core i5-6600K Cpu @3.50ghz(4 cores)

Memory-Two sticks, 8gb each(16 gb total)

GPU-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti

IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers-Intel 100 series/C230 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller

>>16642976

How will i ever get those 30 seconds of a difference back?

Seriously though, i would argue it depends on what game you play. Some have repeated or long loading times that would be great on an SSD, some others already load in <10 seconds on a good HDD.

>>16642980

Motherboard-ASRock Z170 Pro4S. BIOS doesn't seem to have a ram checker

>>16642982

And some (I'm looking at you Total Warhammer) are just gimped by intrusive DRM

>>16642978

I downloaded both. How will I know if something is wrong with my HDD with, say, Crystal Disk?

>>16643051

see

>>16642869

If you're using Nvidia try using older drivers, it's been proven newer drivers degrade performance in all games. If you're using AMD it's time to upgrade.

It could be the motherboard as well. It's a long time now so I don't really remember how it began but some time ago I started having problems which grew worse and worse until it couldn't function at all. It turned out that the motherboard had screwed up and couldn't handle the dual channel ram anymore…

>>16643056

Pretty sure it's a hardware issue, at this point, but if I see any problems, I will degrade to older drivers, which worked perfectly for me for so long

>>16643058

Yeah, I've also been getting increasingly worse problems for a while now. Is there any way to find out for certain if it's the motherboard?

>>16643062

well I brought it to a shop and even they didn't figure it out right away.. so I am not sure.

I guess you can try rotating single sticks of ram for some time and if you happen to have the exact same problem I had it should be ok.. but somehow I don't imagine the chance for that is very hight

>>16643066

so, by that you mean that taking ram sticks out of their place and putting them back in their place or in other, unused spots, could help me see if the motherboard is the problem?

>>16643071

Speaking of RAM, doing a memory test right now, it's telling me that "ram maybe vulnerable to high frequency row hammer bit flips", is this just a side note, or something that could be specific to my rig?

>>16643194

Advice on what? Parts, how to build? The latter has plenty of shit out there.

>>16643394

Mostly on parts.

>>16643194

Use logicalincrements, pick a row and up/downgrade to taste.

>>16643194

>>16643418

Use logicalincrements as a guideline (but not as law). Use pcpartpicker to filter, find deals, and see what's compatible. Have a general budget, and make sure to build while accounting for future proofing, or upgrading in 2-3 years (as if there'll be any deserving games)

pc gayme

OP, disable indexing, assuming you use Windows. This will reduce disk usage and CPU with a retarded amount.

>>16643466

Pretty sure I already did that, elaborate on that for me, just in case

>>16643466

Indexing could also be the cause, I remember a customer having random BSODs until indexing was disable. Windows is pajeet software, remember this.

>>16643477

Go to This PC right click on C or D then properties then click advanced options and look if indexing is checked, if it is it aint disabled. If it aint disabled disable it for the whole disk

>>16643489

Does disabling it interfere with anything else negatively?

>>16643490

No, Windows will claim search results might become inaccurate but this is bullshit, it used to open folders and show its contents faster but with todays SSDs and computing power you wont notice it

>>16643497

I don't have an SSD but I rarely if ever use the search function anyways. Thanks

>>16643506

No problem man, hope it solves the issue.

>>16642832

Ok, you're supposed to do some maintenance on Windows, since shit (esp. registry) can get extremely cluttered, extremely fast. Get Bleachbit <https://www.bleachbit.org/> and run a cleanup - it's the fastest damage control you could do.

Were you intent on an upgrade, would need to know your current configuration (that's not scattered over 18 posts) and budget. In all honesty, you kinda need it on a 750.

>>16643507

I'm not OP though

>>16643510

Thanks, but my issue is in hardware, not the software. I will actually go to the shop tomorrow to confirm this

Speaking of which, I can confirm that I had zero problems with my RAM, at least that's what Memtest86 says. This only leaves my old GPU, My power supply, my motherboard or my CPU as potential culprits, and there really is no easy way to check those without opening up the case again

My BIOS did highlight my Voltage in yellow, other than, say, blue, as it did with everything else. That could imply that the voltage is higher/lower than it should be, and I could be having problem with that, is there an easy way to check if that's the case?

>>16643516

Tell me about it. People laugh at console faggots, but there isn't anything good on PC, either. Nothing that would justify blowing tons of cash on a new rig, anyways

>>16643592

Have you done any OCing? Reset your BIOS back to default and then run HWInfo with sensors to see what's going on. Do some benchmarking with games - I mean actual GPU-intensive games, not benchmarking tools like Furmark cause they're shit and see how your PC runs under load.

>>16643623

Finally a sensible person shows up

>>16643623

I have never done any OCing, nor have I actually messed around with BIOS settings before. I'm turning off indexing right now, will see if that helps any, please elaborate on "Benchmarking" my games

>>16643638

Have you checked your CPU usage?

Is it being throttled?

>>16643638

"benchmarking" is a generic term for seeing how something performs under load. Just run a game that you have trouble running, then record your settings, and the results (framerate, GPU/CPU temperature, CPU usage). There are benchmark applications but they may not give accurate results when it comes to games, because games also have AI and usually stream data in and out of memory, whereas most benchmark apps are basically just cutscenes rendered in real time.

>>16643638

>>16643659

How the hell do you have a PC for 5 years and still be this illiterate when it comes to tweaking? Anyhow, benchmarking is a thing where your computer is put under high stress to see how it performs. For CPU benchmarking Prime95 is neat as it's got that half-an-hour benchmark which REALLY stresses your processor. People use it when overclocking or using new hardware to see how shit is performing.

However, for GPU stressing I recommend this demo <http://tombraider-dox.com/>- watch voltages and temps in the sensors tab of HWinfo to see when and if your PC BSOD - find the right settings in NVidia control panel under which it will not.

>>16643659

Looks like marketing bullshit to me, superclocked isn't a real word and it seems to be slapped on to the name of the product.

https://www.evga.com/products/specs/gpu.aspx?pn=2af49523-559f-4b95-af14-f0c2a5d70b26

Some parts do come overclocked (usually safely) out of the box nowadays. I can't tell if this is one of them at a glance.

>>16643642

Shouldn't be higher than it's supposed to, last I checked. You will have to elaborate on that, sorry

>>16642832

>blue screens

>>16642850

>bluescreen

>>16642869

>blue screen error, "machine exception check"

>>16642878

>blue screens are all the rage.

>>16642943

>bluescreening as soon as i installed the nvidia drivers.

>>16642966

>blue screen when playing games

install gentoo

>>16643514

Press ctrl+shift+escape.

>>16643673

Like I said, it's not getting any higher than it should, unlike, say, my memory or disk, in task manager. I would have to check how high it gets when running games, tho

>>16643665

>>16643662

Is MSI Afterburner good for this sort of thing, when playing a game?

>>16643683

I generally stay away from manufacturer provided utilities, they are usually bloatware. I would suggest CPU-Z or GPU-Z or HWINFO.

>>16643669

Motherboard temperature sensors could be borked and throttling your CPU

Check Throttlestop our CPUZ

>>16643673

>>16643679

Task manager won't show real numbers, it's mostly useless.

>>16643683

That works too

>>16643679

You'll know you're being throttled if the CPU usage caps out at some arbitrary value while intense shit is going on. If your game runs fine until you get to an intense scene and then CPU usage doesn't go any higher than 50%, for example.

If your CPU usage is maxing out, then throttling a slight amount will actually help you because 100% CPU usage will freeze your whole computer for obvious reasons (I had to do this when KCD first came out).

>>16643692

I've never really played games with any of this information on the screen, takes me out of it. Will MSI Afterburner show me all this data while playing the games, or is there a better program that people are using?

>>16643696

Do you have two monitors? If not, I suggest you leave the stone age.

>overlays

Are cancerous resource hogs and should be avoided.

>>16643696

There's a thing called borderless mode which lets you put shit on top of each other.

>>16643700

I hate borderless, but I suppose I Will give it a go

>>16643692

>100% CPU freezing computer

I don't have that problem. I can get CPU usage up to 100% and then go start crysis without a problem besides obviously slowdowns. So install gentoo faggot.

>>16643699

And having more than one monitor is also a resource hog? It uses twice as much on your graphics card and you can only look at one at a time. Meanwhile you shit on a program that is specialized for what anon needs

>>16643700

Borderless fullscreen is expensive too

>>16643665

Your page is a 404, you sure you have the right link there?

>>16643723

Yeah, I got it, 8chan added a few characters to the link, for some reason, when I clicked on it

Does the remake actually look good? Never finished TR2 but I kinda keep putting it off

>>16643731

It's pretty good.

>>16643711

>And having more than one monitor is also a resource hog? It uses twice as much on your graphics card

Your post ends in 711, and it sounds like that's where you should be working. You can't use twice as much resources from your GPU unless you run the game twice, or play a VR game which renders two different camera angles.

>>16643709

>>16643700

Borderless mode also increases resource usage because you are rendering everything behind the window. Fullscreen mode (aka exclusive fullscreen) stops rendering everything on that screen except your fullscreen application. That's why it takes a small amount of time to ALT-TAB out of most games.

>>16643710

I'm not running Windows anymore, but I was when I had that issue and the anon we're trying to help is also running Windows.

Just had another blue screen. I can confirm that the moment there is any action on screen, CPU spikes to 100% and stays there, hovering at about that level even when there is nothing going on(black screen/loading ect). Happens with multiple games, including those I had no problem running for years now

Will run a few more tests, see if voltage/temperature rises to a certain level any time a crash happens

Run memtest, your RAM could be corrupted. I had this issue where one of my RAM sticks was fucked and I would get bluescreens with increasing frequency to the point where it bluescreened when I started any game.

>>16643836

Did earlier today, had no issues with ram

Also it seems that taking screencaps and trying to simply crop them in mspaint is too much, had several crashes already doing just that while the game is on. It seems that any single action can, at this point, push it beyond it's limit, one block too many that collapses the whole jenga tower, so to speak. It seems some values do, indeed cap out at a certain level, altho I cannot post which ones and how at the moment, will try again

>>16643830

>45c

>idle

Without air-conditioning this is normal but if your room is cold and yet your GPU idles at 45 then it's time to clean it up.

However remember that computer "ideal" temps are just purely for aesthetic purposes, in reality it wouldn't matter even if it was 80c idle. CPUs and GPUs can handle even up to 95c just fine

>>16643873

there is no air conditioning here and it's hot as all fuck, sadly. never had these problems I am having now, tho, even when temperatures were even higher than this

>>16643794

That looks high, but again it's hard to know for sure without knowing which exact game and settings you are using.

If your CPU is spiking to 100%, then that's something you need to address. In Windows from my experience at least, 100% CPU usage is quite literal, meaning no other programs can use your CPU, meaning your OS can't do shit. That will cause a fuck up in short order.

You may experiment with throttling your games CPU usage at something like 95%. I wish I could remember the name of the app I used with KCD.

I assume this game is relatively modern and at least makes an attempt at using all your cores.

>>16643887

I'm playing the same exact games, using the exact same settings, as my rig is able to, and that it did indeed run without any problems for years now, so no one game is excused here, this is a hardware issue. Like I said earlier in the thread, it has been going downhill for a long time, so I guess whatever is at fault here has been fucking up for a while. Had absolutely no issues until about 3 years ago

Somebody did suggest here that it could be my pc unable to actually use up all it's cores/switch to then during game time, which would give me a blue screen if things got too intense. That would mean I would need a new motherboard, in that case, right?

>>16643830

1: check voltage, maybe your power supply is giving up the ghost

2: if you have a large amount of peripherals plugged in, from controllers to desk fans to extra case fans, try unplugging them. i just recently replaced my shitty 10 year old power supply and the new one couldn't handle the 6 extra case fans I had, so I downsized to 2 and that solved my problem. I was bluescreening too.

2: if your RAM is across multiple sticks, try removing one at a time and testing out games that crash regularly to isolate if maybe one of your sticks is dying and memtest isn't telling you this. if the problem persists, try removing RAM one slot at a time to test all the slots and make sure it isn't a mobo problem

3: i don't know what kind of CPU you're using but for reference I'm still using a 4790 from years ago, and recently i redid my thermal paste and lowered idle temps by nearly 10 Celsius and as a result get better performance and fewer failures. if everything else is good and your processor is at least even relatively modern, check your paste (and in fact i recommend doing this once a year or so anyhow)

4: i assume you're not stupid and have checked for malware etc. i've heard rumors that IGG put miners in some of their torrents (can't confirm) so, you know, check your shit

>>16643919

>RTX 2060

don't dew it, at least not yet. i say this as someone who recently got a 2070, and while it's nice to have all that extra VRAM compared to the 970 i also had it's too incremental to be a huge step forward for you. if you have a gun to your head and need to choose a card right this second i'd get the 2070 again, but in hindsight i wish i'd waited just a little longer; AMD's e3 presentation got me excited about their products for the first time in almost ten years. look up what they're cooking up because if what i took away from their presentation is accurate they're basically going to make cards that are comparable/barely incrementally superior to Nvidia's shit and sell it for a hundred bucks less per piece

>>16643922

>fucked up my list numbering

i am gay. sage for doublepost

>>16643908

It could also be a heat issue that causes your crashes. Most modern hardware have failsafes that will automatically shut down or send crash signals when they reach a manufacturer threshold. But if it is a heat issue, that is a symptom of a deeper issue.

>>16642982

>How will i ever get those 30 seconds of a difference back?

compared to those boot times you can do while taking a shit and once loaded makes zero difference to programs?

meanwhile big games constantly stream shit, the whole game loads faster and run smoother.

sure, only makes a difference for big games, but still more than windows itself.

>>16643945

>comparable/barely incrementally superior to Nvidia's shit

have been often enough for low/midrange. only thing amd falls short is MUH FLAGSHIP meme which is a single digit of the market anyway.

that being said I'd still wait for in the wild tests. amd isn't bullshitting as much but still depends on real world applications (but if the zen2 benches are an indicator shit could even be faster than expected. gonna have to wait and see).

I can confirm that my numbers peak at certain values, during most of my normal game time:

GPU clocks out at about 1320MHz

Mem clock at about 2700-3200MHz, either stays at 2700 or jumps right up to 3200

Voltage at about 1131mV

Temp at about 57-58 degrees

Does this look about normal?

Another thing, as I am typing this, computer crashed yet again, except there is no blue screen coming up. All values frozen at about normal levels, not one going above a certain threshold or anything, computer just shit itself and gave up. What could be the culprit for this?

>>16644024

>turning the computer off via pressing the power button or restart button that my case has did nothing, had to hold it for about 5-6 seconds for it to register

usually a bios setting if you want to shut down immediately or hold for 4 seconds. reset should work in any case tho.

and without any other info it doesn't mean much, is it OC etc?

>>16644031

No, I never tried OC. Point is that my computer wasn't responding to me physically pressing the power button, I have the default setting where simply pressing it should turn off the computer, and it failed to compute that. Never had this happen before

>>16644042

Could be a side-effect of your resources being totally frozen by overuse.

>>16644050

What do you mean, exactly? I mean, my CPU kept at a steady 100% during the game, but at that exact moment in time when the screen was frozen, and the computer crashed, it was at about 94%, again, CPU overload shouldn't cause that particular crash

>>16644066

>How could I know for sure that my CPU heatsinks aren't working as they should?

Gauging temperatures during activity. Most CPUs idle at around 35-40 with proper ventilation and such. It's true that these components have high heat tolerance, but the problem isn't their heat tolerance as much as the failsafe that is probably on it. When I upgraded my CPU without considering the heatsink, my temperatures rose above 75 easily while playing games. I had an extremely dinky Intel heatsink that was around two generations worth of inadequacy. Upgraded to a Noctua fan for about a hundred bucks and now everything is cool as Duke Nukem playing electric guitar. They seem to have the best value for air coolers and are quiet to boot. Barely fit in my damn case though.

>>16643922

>Voltage

see

>>16643894

That's about what my rig is like when I'm not running any games

>Peripherals

I didn't make any modifications to my rig since I bought it, and I have no extra USBs or anything else plugging in right now. I have 4 fans btw, but that wasn't a problem before, worst case scenario is that the power supply wasn't good enough to actually support them, or that I over used them(I have them running all the time, I think)

>CPU

Might be the paste, the actual hardware might be failing as well, might even be a motherboard failure, I will check on that tomorrow, to make sure

>malware

I haven't really downloaded anything since well before any technical issues started popping up. Nothing good to torrent, anyhow, even if I wanted to

>>16644076

Then it's probably a side effect of overheating. You're asking everyone in tbe thread to make conjecture based on limited information so that's what I am doing. In any case, I wouldn't focus on that, because your buttons are pretty goddamn cheap and connected to your motherboard with cheap wiring.

>>16644099

as I posted, temperature seems to idle at about that, with 45 at most, given how hot it is here, and during the game, it circles around 60 degrees, will have to check if it ever goes above that. Now that you mention it, my fans used to be very quiet, couldn't even tell the computer was on. Now, computer is actively giving out noise, can't tell if it's the fans or something else making it, obviously

>>16644107

Overheating is very likely, what is causing it is the bigger issue. It could be any number of things, and as you said, you can't really tell what it could be exactly, just cut down on the number of possible culprits. I doubt that it's my wiring or my buttons or whatever, I think it's my motherboard, my ram, or my power supply giving up on me, and I can't exactly tell which one at the moment

>>16644117

The only things in your computer that make noise are fans and spinning disks (HDDs, not SSDs). Oh, and an optical or floppy drive, if you have those. So chances are, yeah your fans are struggling.

>>16644137

I'm too lazy to actually open up the case and see if everything works as I play today, not discounting some of my fans not working at all, or not working as they should. My hdd shouldn't be making any noises tho, tests show that it should work normally

>>16644175

I don't quite understand this mentality because opening my case takes about a minute, but I guess I could see it if you don't know the layout of your parts. I've put together every PC I've owned since college and tinkered with the ones I owned previously though.

>>16644231

>I don't quite understand this mentality

It's just fear and discomfort. It's as simple and dumb as that. He may claim it's something else but he's just not comfortable doing it. I used to feel it about checking out my own computer until I started getting more into it.

I'm sure you feel it as well about other things. Things that other people don't mind doing and do with ease that you don't even want to think about doing.

>>16644175

did you clean your fans of dust? gpu,powersupply, and cpu fan?

>>16644254

>Things that other people don't mind doing and do with ease that you don't even want to think about doing.

No, that's fucking stupid unless you're a victim of autism

>>16642943

My 6870 had black-white stripes and screen desync, then it just died… (((They))) introduced some sort of easy on ecology solder in 2006 or so that degrades quickly so your $$$ gpu becomes a brick, matter of time.

>>16644266

Everyone' uncomfortable doing things they're not used to, specially if it's way outside their field of knowledge. Sometimes those things might be simple to do but you just overestimate them.

>>16644281

Keep trying with the DOS version, it is the most compatible by far. I'm actually surprised you're having issues with it. What are the symptoms when you try to run it in DOSBox?

>>16644311

It has nothing to do with autism. It happens to everyone.

We might not feel it because we made a conscious effort to try to work at managing the things in our environment with at least a minimal level of confidence, but that doesn't mean we'd be all good if we were suddenly thrown in a foreign environment and expected to do things that are widly different than what we're used to.

Regarding his particular case, he's definitely lacking if he spends even a moderate amount of time around his computer, sure.

>>16642832

Usually breaking video cards cause artifacts to appear on screen, shortly before they stop working entirely. RAM, on the other hand, causes BSOD semi-randomly, and it can die slowly instead of suddenly.

>>16644264

yes

>>16644231

pc is in a spot where it's a pain in the ass to get to. already broke on of the little stands that hold it up, for example, because the piece of furniture it's inside of require me to hold it up and push it in/out, then get into a bitchy spot to plug in all the cables. not quite as easy as "1 minute" for me, will have to find a workaround for that in the future

>>16644349

gpu shouldn't be the culprit here, ram should be fine, too if anything, it's either my physical ram disks or my motheboard, maybe the heatsinks, who knows at this point

>>16644521

Ah. I have a flat high desk with my PC slid underneath, so it's trivial to get it in and out. Took me forever to find the damn desk too, I may end up replacing the wooden surfaces myself when they wear out and keep the metal frame because it is literally the perfect shape and size.

>>16644552

not everyone has "the perfect desk", and those that do should consider themselves lucky. it's a pain in the ass for me to get my pc in or out of the spot it's in, but at least the desk also holds everything else I have in one place as well

>>16644562

I don't know if Frye's still sells it but that's where I got it from, in case you're in the market.

>>16642869

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-56/2187vs3938

lmao dude that thing is an ancient piece of shit.

Just buy a non-mined, used vega 56 off ebay.

>>16643919

Zen 2 is coming very soon. It would be a big mistake to buy a CPU and motherboard now.

>>16643959

>I don't currently play anything higher than 1080p anyways

Running games at 1080p is more CPU limited than GPU limited. If you want to continue running at 1080p, although the GPU does matter, the CPU upgrade will make the biggest difference at that res.

>>16644595

>amd

>>16644823

> It would be a big mistake to buy a CPU and motherboard now.

x570 still costs an arm and leg and is really only needed if you need pci4 etc.

current AMDs won't get that much cheaper, retailers have been selling those off for months since they aren't stupid and know the effects of new releases better than anyone. and once zen2 releases prices will be high because demand and new (hopefully those leaked prices were just some shitty shops scalping and not actual street prices).

if you really need hardware now a cheap 2600x + b450 + cheap ram (who knows when it will go up again) hardly is a mistake and gives you enough room to wait for the zen2 refresh which will iron out some of the kinks (and probably be the last am4 cpu anyway).

>>16644885

>Jewtel

>>16644823

look on the fucking secondary market you dumb motherfuckers, that's how you get ahead. You can get a fucking Ryzen 2600 on ebay for $150 and a Vega 56 for 230, Overclock both and you're good for years. Fucking motherboards are refurbished for like $70, how fucking poor are you fags????

>>16644526

>ram should be fine, too

You've tested it, then?

>>16645152

correct. hardware managing the cores might be fucked, tho

>>16643071

I meant since my particular thing was that the mobo was fucked and dual channel didn't work, you can run with a single stick and see if it's better.

But if the problem is in the ram you'd have to rotate that single stick to make sure it is not the stick itself. But as I said I am not sure how common that problem is so you may be wasting your time

>>16646514

Yeah probably, but I'd say wait a couple months since we're right on the cusp of new GPUs being released, prices inevitably fluctuate around the time of new releases so zero in on a GPU you know will give you good performance, then wait for the price of it to drop and buy then.

>>16646514

Not really unless you're looking to play poorly optimized modern AAAshit or above 60 FPS.

>>16646630

PS4 if that's your target

>>16646630

>Could it be done under 400$

250, maybe less

>Should I just by a PS4

Depends on your standards and what you'd like to play

>>16646705

I just want to play shmups.

>>16646714

PC no doubt, not only do you get most SHMUPs new and old that are usually stuck to variety of platforms in a single one but you also get to emulate older ones

If you want something more long term, bump that CPU to a Quad Core with a clock speed above 3GHz and that RAM to dual channel 8GB.

Both of those are easily grabbed by less than 100 bucks.

>>16646745

stop recommending stupid shit and just get one of those ebay dell optiplexes.

>>16646768

>Wanting poor performance

Shut the fuck up beaner

>>16644283

Yeah that was led free solder if i remember correctly. Same thing that caused the 360 RROD problems.

Although the 470 being a fermi furnance also did not help.

>>16646768

Those have shit tier mainboards and PSUs most of the time, which means you have to rebuild it as soon as you want to upgrade anyways. Also said shit PSUs often dont even have free 8 or 6pin connectors so you cant even install a proper gpu.

They may be cheap, but so is just buying used hardware that you can upgrade properly.

>>16644283

My nforce 630 (i don't remember if it was a 7025 or a 6025 anymore) lasted for 9 or 10 years, from ~2009 to 2018 and it never died. That dear old computer was retired when the propietary nvidia304 drivers for linux finally died and i was stuck on shitty nouveau, which because of poor optimization, it can't even handle some context menus of xfce without filling up with strange bars and having to hard restart.

OP here, I just wanted to roll back to some old gpu drivers that I had for a long time. They were working on all my games, and people here said that generally, getting newer drivers is a bad idea. Guess what? Crash, with a literal blue screen, as in, light baby blue acreen covering the entire monitor, during the installation. Could this point to potential problems with the gpu? I have no artifacts on screen or anything, but all my crashes so far were video game related, or just now, when installing drivers for my gpu, this is very telling

>>16646630

>intel core 2 quad

Found on garbage bin.

OP here, problem was shoddy fans and I needed to re-apply the thermal paste again. Kinda figured that at the start, but I wanted to check if absolutely nothing else was the issue here. Turns out, all my other hardware actually works pretty well, despite it's age, over heatig was causing the problems, tho

Just your friendly reminder to check your desktop today, so you don't have to hassle with it tomorrow, check ups are important

>>16647250

furmark will stress test it, its up to you how long you want it run though. If its got issues it should fail pretty quickly.

>>16658592

Only reason Nvidia would do something like this is because they are afraid of AMD's new graphics cards. Wait for those. Even if you don't want the AMD there will probably be a price war. Nvidia has done this before and it's usually a last second attempt to grab people with higher priced cards before a price war.

Two questions:

1. What, if any, high-end GPUs still use only two 6-pin power cables?

2. Are any GPUs bottlenecked by PCIe 2.0 yet?

Are 720p monitors still on sale somewhere?

>>16646630

I have one lying around. Considering the machine is over 10 years old, I'd say it's worth less than $100 USD. (Core2Duo instead of Core2Quad, but either CPU is worth next to nothing) Its GPU is worse than you specified, so it'd cost you maybe $50 for a used 750 Ti. (going by ebay prices, could be slightly more or less) At your low spec range, you shouldn't spend more than $200 for everything. You should be able to get it for less, even.

Just look for used computers on Craigslist. You might even be able to get better for a low price.

What kind of mid-sized towers would you anons recommend?

>>16642869

Get a new one, 960/970 maybe a 1080 depends on how much you want to spend. Buy an ssd install os on that, I'm too retarded to read but if it is you getting blue screens then go check your computer temps. I had a recent issue with bluescreening constantly, turns out I was reaching 105 degrees on my cpu. 60 idle too. Got a new cooler, works fine now. Heat's a bitch. You probably live in America so ambient heat is going to be an issue.

There's some ram check systems you can look up, basically just reboots your system and checks for discrepancies.

>>16642890

>I could play my games just fine on high settings, but now, I literally cannot anymore, due to old age. say what you want about console shitters

Same games or new games? if these are the same games then you have an issue.

>>16642982

>How will i ever get those 30 seconds of a difference back?

Total war games.

>>16643671

Installing Gentoo probably won't fix the fact that his system is shitting itself. Not to mention that is a lot of effort I'm sure OP can't be fucked with.

yes

>>16670888

Go ahead with your retarded ideas, anon. Nobody cares.

Sounds more like hard drive issues.

Get a jump drive to check your disk for errors, and maybe defrag.

Your computer's likely shitting itself trying to figure out fucked up data.

>>16671350

It really doesn't matter, just don't buy Rosewill cases, and make sure if you want front panels, have them available because it'll suck a fat cock later if you want one and have to reassemble your shit

>>16643516

You also shouldn't upgrade because Nvidia and AMD are in the middle of a Price Fixing scheme.

This isn't the first time it's happened, so they'll get handed a lawsuit eventually and cards will come down in about $100-$300 in price.

The first time their was a lawsuit they got sued by a class action lawsuit and had to shell out a bunch of money to get the case dismissed.

Though they never denied once during the 2007 case that they had coluded with each other.

Nowadays with both of them getting all buddy-buddy with TMC? Guarantee they are trading emails daily about what the target prices should be.

It's funny though, because they are still losing revenue since these kikes seem to not understand the laws of Supply and Demand create diminishing profits for high prices.

CPU's are fine to buy though.

>>16671801

*59.99 lb boxed chair

>>16671801

>>16671803

60lbs over the shoulder is easy, but if the box is huge it makes it way harder. At that point if it feels like it's going to slide off your shoulder it's a lot smarter to find a cart or something else with wheels to put it on and move it that way

>>16671843

Riddle me this?

How the fuck do you cart something up or down a stair-ladder?

>>16642897

>All Nvidia shit

Opinion discarded

>>16671873

put down a plank on the stairs and roll it up

>>16671894

>Implying I have a wood plank that is greater then 10 feet long

>Implying I have any wood planks at all at work

>>16671873

I meant once you had brought it down the ladder. I work retail, and I frequently end up moving around boxed up chairs just like you do. Once the boxes get to around 60lbs and up, they're usually pretty big, often times so big that it's hard to actually grip onto it as I put it onto my shoulder.

If you seriously insist on balancing a heavy box on your shoulder that you can't properly hold onto and carry it all the way up or down a ladder without help because you need to prove to yourself that you're a man, you're going to end up getting hurt.

Just trying to help.

So, how quickly will the actual performance of the new AMD cpu's be shown tomorrow?

>>16672352

Outlets have had them for like a week, articles will probably drop the second the embargo's over. PCGH's review leaked early but it was short and their numbers were erratic.

>>16642862

This, also chequerboard squares on top of everything, including booting.

>>16643046

Last build I had got a 'not fatal' motherboard short that got progressed into a fatal one that presented somewhat like this.

>>16670888

Cause you could blow less money in the process? I'm doing the same, but I'm planning on the Node 202 - that way, airflow in a tiny ass case is not an issue because of the console form factor. And no, it ain't because I can't carry my PC, but because planes keep chucking it into luggage where fragile shit dies.

>>16645089

>secondary market

>breaks in 3 months

>good luck on getting a refund

>>16673559

What kind of cryptomining niggers do you buy your shit from ?

If the listing seems fishy then yeah you are relying on luck, but buying from a normal person is just fine thanks to retards that buy a new GPU every 2 years.

>>16673536

You should disassemble the system before shipping anyways unless you want your components to go flying.

>>16679766

did someone bash that GPU with a baseball bat?

>crashes and blue screens

More likely due to driver issues or overheating, which doesn't surprise me – Nvidia usually doesn't give a shit about supporting ancient cards running new games.

>750 Ti

That's pretty mediocre/bad, but I don't know which games you want to play so it's hard for me to recommend anything.

>check prices

>GTX 980s are still $480+

Wew wew, thanks Mr. Jew.

>>16679869

>480$

They start at about 200$ on ebay.

Also a 580 with 8GB of vram would probably be a better choice since its about as fast but you can get a new one for less than 200$

>>16679888

There are probably better card choices, I just wanted to do a cursory price check because I was curious. I plan on AMD for my next card because I want to run a gaming VM, which GeForce drivers have DRM against. I didn't choose my current card however, it was a (very expensive) gift.

>>16643711

>>16643700

Kinda late to reply, but borderless sucks. In my machine image quality is worse in borderless than exclusive fullscreen (the picture appears slightly blurrier, like there's a vaseline filter or some kind of forced FXAA), and the gamma and black levels become all screwed up.

>>16679859

Don't lie, anon. There's still good reason to buy Nvidia instead of ATI/AMD. AMD's OpenGL performance is still awful compared to Nvidia, just like it has always been for 15 years. And there's still a significant number of games that use OGL, especially among indie titles. Might not be too much of an issue for higher end cards (though they will consume a lot more power and get much hotter in OpenGL mode than a Nvidia counterpart), but it is a problem for lower end cards.

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