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Ive tried several times to get into this game and I just end up bored. This game just doesn't do the small things well that WoW does (haven't played WoW since last year). Like for example clicking on a character and they great you. In FFXIV there's very little that makes the world feel alive. Hard to explain.

>>16601151

How far did you get into it? The game really picks up in Heavensward, the first expansion.

>>16601151

I don't know, many of the characters have line when you come close to them, some have special emotes, like greeting you and the like, many times appropriate to who the NPC is. I have seen just background NPCs emote in fear when a FATE appears in their area (particularly the Mi`qote tribe in the Forgotten Springs). Also many NPCs have pretty elaborated cycle of emotes and actions (the waitress in the Gold Saucer is one of many). Furthermore, as you progress through the plot, elements of the environment change and some NPC change to reflect this. For example, after the death of a certain character in Heavensward, you can visit the tomb of said character. One NPC will appear there to pay respects when you visit, speak to the player and then leave. Many secondary characters that are on the background during the main story line have story lines of their own, reasons I always recommend to speak to everyone before proceeding. Also many settlements have changed. Mor Dhona, Idyllshire, have changed patch after patch to simulate both receiving more visitors and growing. There are many details like those. Now, the sense that the world is dead may come mainly from the fact that the open world is pretty much dead, as all important content is instanced in one way or another.

Looking foward to the expansion. Very excited by the recostruction of Isghard content, as I like crafting. Is very interesting that is actually a server wide cooperative effort and there will be competition between servers. The art direction and music so far seems great, and the gameplay changes, while mixed so far (healers and some dps classes getting shafted), still look like they could be good overall. Now only remains to see if the content, dungeons and trials, is well designed and fun

>>16601174

I boosted past the main story but watched all the cut scenes and did all the dungeons with the gf. I got part way into HW before getting bored again. I was playing Mech and Drag. Idk my gf is really into the game but I haven't been able to stick with it for long. Like I said it just isn't as fun for me as say WoW is.

>>16601177

Cool they have silent emotes I may never hear. Doesn't really make the world feel alive to me. Wow does similar things in lots of places in game. FFXIV is just too dead noise wise. There's like no noise unless its a fight or crafting. All you hear is footsteps and music. I'm also not a fan of the combat visuals either. Lots of bursting colors but nothing that really denotes what the attack was. In WoW most attacks have pretty unique and easily recognisable animations or spells effects whereas in FFXIV I can't tell the difference between most attacks. Its just not for me I guess. I also can't stand how much dialogue there is. Pages and pages and pages of dialogue that by the time you're done reading you don't even remember what it was about. Keep in mind I read massive books and have since I was a kid and can remember them so the dialogue itself isn't holding my attention or is doing a poor job of conveying what's happening.

>>16601177

I'm really looking forward to the trust system too. Should be nice because in dungeons playing with those NPCs should mean the loot goes to you.

>>16601194

I should clarify you can already play with squadron NPCs but I'm pretty sure those are old dungeons. You can play with story NPCs in ShB dungeons as you unlock them and not have to party up with players, thus being able to roll and get loot for glam or whatever.

>>16601194

Yeah. While I'm a bit wary of more single player content in a MMO, despite Yoshi claims that it is more efficient doing it with players (guess he never played with bad randoms). Still, what sold me over was how the characters have special dialogue and interactions. I'm a sucked for shit like that and really enjoy the story of the game, so I'll run for sure the dungeons using Trust at least a couple of times to see the possible interactions. Also not gonna lie, it should help in a way to ease the waiting time for duties for those that will try to catch up in the future.

>>16601188

I guess at this point is more of a subjective issue. For example, I don't mind silent games because I grown up with tons of RPGs that didn't had them, while I find a lot of modern games voice acting gratings and annoying more than anything. I find that attacks have each distinct animations and sounds, though it may be just because I played a lot. The dialogue and not being able to remember I think is more because you are not really interested in the game, so it just doesn't really grab your attention not retain it as well. Perhaps is just not the game for you Anon.

>entire community is filled with literal fags, furries, pedos, and trannies

>squareenix panders to them on twitter and in the mogstation

>every /v/ group is filled with larps that are secretly into the same shit

This game has pozz written all over it.

Have there been any more announcements about Yoko Taro's thing for the game?

>>16601217

Sadly the AI may be exactly like squadron AI. Though they still have features like dialogue and interaction as >>16601216 mentioned. Could also get some good screenshots with the characters. It's pretty much a QoL addition.

>>16601235

>Sadly the AI may be exactly like squadron AI

Great I hate it already.

>>16601220

This is my other reason for not wanting to play that and their shitty coc

These dungeons look pretty cool

>8 patches and an expansion in the time BfA has had 3 patches and still has yet to hit its .2 update

>XIV announced at E3 it has 1 million active players subscribed right now, not accounts, straight up a million strong virtual world

>Datamining census currently puts, not counting obvious multiboxers and smurf/burner accounts WoW at 750k subs and falling

>"wow refugees leaving for ffxiv" is the most common result when searching for wow on youtube and twitch right now

>WoW: we are too big to fail, as long as we are making money things can only improve! shut up, forget the 7 year straight decline tho!

>FFXIV: we really, really shit the bed at a time when lightning ruined the brand already. We can't let that happen again so we are going to work super hard on this.

>WoW: Hey this expansion fucked up your class? well maybe in the next expansion it will be better

>FFXIV: Hey this expansion/patch fucked up your class? well don't worry we will fix it in a patch like we always do

>WoW: GOTTA RETAIN THOSE NUMBERS, GOTTA DESIGN EVERY MECHANIC AS A SUB TRAP

>FFXIV: Sub when you want, leave when you want. As long as people enjoy it we can run the game on 100k subs no problem so take it easy and enjoy yourselves

>WoW userbase: GOGOGOGOGOGGO WTF WE WIPE WHEN I NINJAPULL TIME TO DROP GROUP BECAUSE CRZ MEANS NO RECOMPENSE GGGGG TIME TO DISAPPEARRRRR

>FFXIV: i only have only character and so i have a name and face attached to a reputation, oh look a sprout i better help them out like people helped me, the party only moves as fast as its slowest member after all

I played WoW from vanilla to the launch of Warlords of Dreanor and called it quits and nothing warms the cockles of my heart like the addicts i left behind getting super butthurt about the XIV team -people who said they loved playing vanilla WoW back in the day- do a better job than WoW's current soylent self professed 'mobile only gamers' who don't listen to community feedback because in their own words "we dont want negativity in the dojo".

>>16601391

>FFXIV: Sub when you want, leave when you want. As long as people enjoy it we can run the game on 100k subs no problem so take it easy and enjoy yourselves

Actually curious about this. Is there any source for this statement? Seems quite interesting. How much money do SE make right now with 1 million subs?

>WoW userbase: GOGOGOGOGOGGO WTF WE WIPE WHEN I NINJAPULL TIME TO DROP GROUP BECAUSE CRZ MEANS NO RECOMPENSE GGGGG TIME TO DISAPPEARRRRR

>FFXIV: i only have only character and so i have a name and face attached to a reputation, oh look a sprout i better help them out like people helped me, the party only moves as fast as its slowest member after all

A bit disingenuous. There are quite a lot of chill people on FF XIV, but also a lot of "try hards" that blame everyone else for their mistakes or expect even newbies to perform to their peak potential. But the most common issue are shitters that barely know how to play, yet will not only blame everyone else, they won't accept help from others and respond aggressively to any kind of advice. I have really never played WoW in an official server, just in a private one when it was in vanilla, so can say much about their community, but FF XIV has its own share of issues. Granted, is not as common as I may make it sound, at least I haven't have that much trouble.

>>16601220

Also this other issue. The care bear attitude of SE means degenerates like these thrive in the game. Wouldn't be surprised if these faggots and women were the main reason the mogstation works so well. Funny enough, I was lucky and I'm on a very chill FC. Pretty casual, everyone does whatever they feel like and won't kick you unless you have been like 6+ months without logging in. Quite small, we don't many things together but usually help each other. They are mostly weeabos, but pretty nice. Funny enough, I only recall talking about gays like twice, when some faggot FC were advertising themselves, and most showed disgust, which I was gladly surprised. Also one of best player of our fc is french, which is pretty funny sseing how bad the french players are. Pretty cool guy too

For a split second the trust preview lists alphinaux and shows his healer class is 'Academician'. So Calculator heal job confirmed.

>>16601482

Sorry, but I dont have the original. IIRC its a shitload of fantasia

>>16601471

>>16601476

Jesus, that is fucking insane.

>>16601351

Agree. So far, I really like how ShB looks, quite a lot more than SB. SB in general looks pretty boring. Comparing the base dungeons, while SB looked very nice, they really didn't stuck up to me except for Bardam's Mettle and Doma Castle, which were each one pretty memorable for different reasons. I liked the first one aesthitics, I'm a sucker for hunted dungeons similar to Haukke Mannor, and I'll say some of the new dungeons have that spooky vibe to them, while the later ones are clearly more High Fantasy with more otherworldly aesthetics. Also really digging that kind of Aztec / Maya aesthetics one of them has, remind me of the Tomb of Kings in FF XII, where you fight Belias. Also I'm a sucker for small folk and fairies in fantasy, so I'm really looking forward to this expansion (Nu mou, pixies, dwarfs, pretty cool stuff). The new classes look great too. Can't wait to play as both. Always wanted a more dedicated "buffer" class, love that kind of shit. Gunbreaker looks quite interesting too, and I'm looking foward to play as SMN and DRG, my two favourite DPS classes. There seems to be some problems but I will hope they will fix them sooner than later, specially regarding healers. They gutted SCH, which was my favourite.

>>16601471

So are there any RP worlds that aren't 'questionable' like that? I've heard everything about Balmung but want to make an RP character after I finish Shadowbringers, and was wondering if there are other, unofficial RP worlds.

>>16601136

>>16601391

i've actually been pretty surprised at the quality of pug groups so far, i got worse groups in wow lfg all the time

pretty much every other aspect of the game that isn't group content feels meaningless though, the quest design in particular is really monotonous

>well don't worry we will fix it in a patch like we always do

is this true? because the changes to scholar & the summoner classes at large look really depressing

>>16601534

For some reason in Heavensward they got the idea to make bards and machinist have to stand still in combat rather than move and shoot "because mages have too". It was terrible and nobody liked it, i don't know if it lasted two patches.

>>16601534

>>16601544

Also, SCH at the beginning of SB lacked good AoE tools and their heals were lacking, I think it took 1-2 patches and they were buffed and given Miamsa II back. Same thing happened with DRG, whose rotation was awkward to manage when it came to gaining eyes, Warrior also had a similar issue, SMN has gone quite a lot of changes through SB, BLM took some time but its damage was buffed to the point it is considered the DPS with the highest DPS, and while not meta, a good addition if played right (compared to poor old SAM, which while a good mechanically and fun, wasn't buffed in SB to the same degree), they do seem to listen and try to improve. But sometimes they try to force the weirdest of decisions, and their expectations of how classes and roles should play class quite a lot with the player base for some reason. At least they end up listening and trying to improve or fix things, so there is that. Probably one of the main reasons it is actually doing well.

>>16601559

Frogs, this is the rare pepe expansion.

>>16601576

Robot Frogs at that.

>>16601576

>>16601591

There's also gonna be a frog costume.

>>16601609

>"like if you remember dat boi memes and have an awesome childhood! xD"

>>16601609

>>16601594

>>16601591

>>16601576

Probably all related to Titania and the fairy tale kind of thing going on with her. Also pretty curious how the First will have their own kind of chocobos. I'm looking foward to see more about Dwarfs though, seeing as they are a Beast Tribe in the First. Also very curious to see if there will be more unique dialogue if you are a Lalafell. Although considering one of the WoL of the First was a female Lalafell, maybe they are better adjusted to society than other beast tribes, perhaps as adventurers

>>16601627

Nah, no way. I wish they did, but considering they didn't want to add too out of there races because of how hard is to make unique gear for them, and how they said Viera and Hrotgar are likely the last races they will make in a while, it is practically impossible we will get pixies.

>>16601630

>Twintania has a quite irish accent

muh dik

>>16601476

wew

also started as cat went lizard horn people didn't like it went back to cat and will be going to bunny when shadowbringers for the low price of free fantasia. 1 because i bought 1.0 1 from monthly reward sub 1 from heavensward expac.

also had someone in my old fc who would change like every other month

and here im debating to spend on emote that can only be obtain thru the cash shop

>>16601665

If they added in Ivalice Moogles I would buy a fantasia, that or Bangaa.

>>16601673

Just give me a butt and thigh slider its all i want.

>>16601559

i want to mount titania

I wish the improved the old races even if is just a bit. They put out a bullshit excuse of "if we change them, people that made their characters before the change will be unhappy with the results". Is not like a want a radical change, just to make them be more in line with later character model and races. Also if they are so worried they should just give a free fantasia or something.

>>16601531

Also interested in this if anyone has a good answer. I'm not really into rp, but not gonna lie, the though had crossed my mind. What are good Europeans Rp servers?

>>16601188

Well it's probably because in FFXIV from the very start they force an incredibly boring story at you for the first expansion, where no one can do anything right if they're not within earshot of your Character. The world doesn't feel alive because you your MC is at the center point of literally everything, so basically what happened in the last WoW expansions but from the start.

>>16601514

They didn't gut SCH, they completely eviscerated it. fucking 2 button DPS rotations

>>16601761

Don't forget, there is not Energy Drain, so now we cannot dump aetherflow easily, instead over healing or using it in a pointless Sacred Soil. If there is one change I predict almost 100% sure SE will roll back, is taking ED from us. I have taken a look at the forum and someone posted about their experience with Titania in E3, and it seems healing hasn't become harder, and people just DPSed as much. Unless that fight was greatly nerfed, then things don't really bode well for the full game for healers. Funny how so many of those "naysayers" on the forum that keep saying "wait for release" seems to have disappeared, and the few that remains now are moving the goal post to "wait to 80 and EX". As somehow making the rest of the content boring for healers is ok just because Savage and EX isn't. Which it won't be even that hard, considering that Yoshi has already said that the 4 first fights of Eden will have reduced damage compared to SB, and focus more on mechanics. Wich to me, sounds like everyone will have fun buy healers.

Also it isn't like WHM and AST are in a good place either. While AST new card system may actually be more powerful and consistent, and people fished for Spread Balance on the old one, the new system has rid a lot of the quick decision making of the old one, and instead of making nerfs and changes to avoid it being too powerful and balance being the only card that matters, they did such a drastic change. Considering their DPS rotations was already the simplest, this new system may not be engaging nougat to make downtime fun compared with the old on, specially if healing is not more demanding. WHM had their rotation make even simpler, lilies still relay on their GCD cures, so the new attack, while quite neat, will feel like shit to build up to as spamming GCD cures isn't the most effective nor fun ways to play the class. Add that they receive practically 0 utility but the wings, which is only more defense and recovery, and they may still suffer for being the less useful of the three. It was the chance to make things like Protect and Stoneskin work as shields, and give them spells like Haste, Brave and classic support spells.

>>16601803

Wait for Max is a common thread, because SE has the tendency to completely gut classes at low levels, which is why I still say this is the worst "large" MMO for new players. You have to put up with playing a completely gutted class that shares nothing with your class at levels 60+

Also I completely agree, healers got mostly shit on. Healing won't increase in difficulty at all, because the healing hasn't ever gotten harder, same with tanking. I am mad about the whole "hurr tanks just have an innate damage resist because they're strong now". Because all that's going to do is absolutely fuck all, the damage enemies do is still going to be the same in dungeons %Hp wise.

>>16601391

>Sub when you want, leave when you want.

Unless you want a house, then fuck you.

>>16601428

> I have really never played WoW in an official server, just in a private one when it was in vanilla, so can say much about their community, but FF XIV has its own share of issues.

WoW players are about 10 times worse, on average.

>>16601851

Come on mate, you aren't finding a plot to begin with.

>>16601881

I've never had trouble finding a plot, except when they lock the system down when their is a hurricane somewhere, which is SUPER fucking annoying.

>>16601826

like a gym membership

>>16601899

I haven't played WoW since around 2010, but it was more an issue of players having zero patience. They treated the game like a job. Everything had to be done flawlessly in the most efficient manner possible. Any fucking around or joking and you'd get kicked out of a group or the group would just disband. Sometimes groups would just disband if you stated that you were new. Basically, it was just full of assholes who took the game too seriously. FFXIV has a much more chill player base, for whatever reason. There's still assholes, but a lot less by comparison.

>>16601910

>>16601899

Like take the newest 24 man raids in FFXIV. They are pretty hard the first couple times you clear them as new content. People are expected to wipe a few times. And most players are accepting of this, though they may not be super shy about voicing their frustration after a few wipes. But they'll usually at least give it 3 or 4 tries before quitting the group. In WoW it was more like one, or two tries, at most, then everyone bailed.

>>16601899

>Are DPS players in WoW total brainlets like in FFXIV?

DPS are bad in every MMO. They think the DPS role is the easiest, which implies that they are unwilling to put forth very much effort. I personally like playing healer, because having a bad healer really sucks ass.

>>16601930

And dungeon queues are real quick when you're a healer. It's not boring if you try to DPS while you heal.

>>16601930

>>16601936

The thing is DPS can get quite hard at times, as they receive much of the burden when dealing with mechanics, the dps checks and enrage timers can be quite strict at times, and having to dodge means many times that they have to learn fights to compensate for the inevitable loss of up time and DPS (melee having to disengage, mages having to stop, casting, transition phases etc). There is a pretty good reason so many new skill for DPS are about maintaining their DPS when there is any kind of downtime. Also. agree. A bad Tank Healer in dungeons can mean a failed run, while bad DPS are, at most, carried by both the tank and healer. Healer DPS was a good way to separate average healers from good ones, and balancing healing and offense was specially great for SCH. Yoshi keep saying that healers should only heal, and yet in the last Live Letter, while showcasing the Trust system, Urianger was basically spamming the fuck out of his damage spells (which sadly make him better than the majority of PUG healers). Seeing as the changes won't suffice, I think the real reason is to encourage new players to play healer, as it will be seem as simpler, and maybe, for the trust system AI to not shit the bed.

>>16601958

I have at least one 70 for every variation of all the roles in the game. I've been playing on and off since the 1.0 version of the game. But having a bad healer seems to be the worst possible situation. And it feels like I see bad healers a little more commonly than bad tanks. Bad DPS are fairly common.

>>16601930

>>16601899

I've encountered more retarded tanks then DPS/Healers in this game compared to wow, a lot of tanks seem to think using their cool downs is optional and positioning enemies in stupid ways.

>>16601980

Yeah, this is my experience too. Dps that do less damage that the tank, that do not use AoE, nor Goad, Manashift, Diversion (not that they need them considering their low dps) or any other support skills. Tanks that doesn't hold aggro nor use CD and Healers that cannot heal and do not use DPS are far less common.

>>16601997

>I've encountered more retarded tanks then DPS/Healers in this game compared to wow

Perhaps. I just have a really critical eye for healing since I do it a lot. I can tell a good healer from a bad healer pretty easily. I may be a little too judgemental of them.

I don't tank nearly as often. I just don't like tanking very much. So I don't scrutinize them as much. They only ever get on my nerves when they can't be bothered to step out of AoE. Otherwise, I can usually heal through just about anything.

>>16601997

ive been getting a lot of stone vigil lately and its depressing sometimes. lots of tanks wearing gear 20 levels lower pulling big and bitching at the healer when the mobs assblast them. i really feel bad for healers sometimes.

>>16602147

I just did the weeb mansion ending in Yojimbo as RDM and had a PLD in shield stance with a name like 'artass lichekinge' who couldn't hold aggro over me, for the last half of yojimbo i tanked and healer through it myself. RDM may not be dps king but its king of retard insurance.

>>16601151

The lack of build customization is what kills it for me.

>>16602453

>I thought Yoshi said 14 million active subscriptions

There are 14 million accounts, but of course active accounts do not reach that amount. Recently, we had the peak of 1.009.000 active accounts, during what was supposed to be the "low season" before the expansion, which is quite surprising.

Also share the experience somehow. While I know there is quite a lot of faggots, (one FC called "Make Eorzea Gay again") was announcing itself on shout channels, the reactions of the players seemed more negative that of acceptance, even on my FC. Quite curious.

>>16601391

>FFXIV: Sub when you want, leave when you want

Nevermind all the timegated bullshit like the weekly capped currency, drop caps,and levequest limits that turn the game into a job you only get to play once per week after hitting endgame while still being forced to pay for the entire month that will go largely to waste.

>>16602479

i havent capped tomestones this entire expansion. not a single week. With 4 classes in 385-390 gear with 400 being the dungeon gear in lvl.73 dungeons thats fine.

>>16602479

>he doesn't know about crafted gear

It's BiS for a number of jobs and the Eureka weapons, which require quite a bit of time and dedication, and BiS for many classes too. There's only nothing to do if you're one of the sock-shitters that think the only thing that matters is end-game raiding.

>>16602471

>Also share the experience somehow. While I know there is quite a lot of faggots, (one FC called "Make Eorzea Gay again") was announcing itself on shout channels, the reactions of the players seemed more negative that of acceptance, even on my FC. Quite curious.

I was most recently heartened by the backlash against constant calls for bunny-boi's and hrothgirls on the official forums. For every post shouting about how "we want male Viera/female Hrothgar!" there was another defending the decision for the gender split, and many of those were calling out the demands for bunny-bois as exactly what they were; a desire by the degenerate furry community to be catered too because they're fucking degenerates who will never be satisfied until everyone accepts their bullshit and calls them normal. It was quite heartening. There's been an uptick in shitlordery both in and out of game ever since the new "behavioral guidelines" BS came out.

>>16602638

Shit, that too. I didn't care at the beginning about the gender split, didn't mind it that much. Yeah, having it means more customization, but it wasn't the end of the world. Vieras had always be females on the main games and Hroghtgar compensated as the male only. But after so many annoying fagots couldn't shut up about them, now I hope SE just never implement them. Seeing how many people of the community spoke against their protest is great.

>>16602674

>>16602638

the fags definitely overplayed their hand with the bunni-boi shit. i was surprised to see that even on mateus the general community was making fun of the fags.

>>16603535

>the fags definitely overplayed their hand

For real, I wanted to play a bunnie boi myself. After the fags went full turbo sperg as is tradition at this point I rethought my position and felt they were better left out.

>>16602674

Is it true that there's some kind of Lalafel-exclusive village in Shadowbringers as well? I'm all for exclusive content breaking up some of the monotony of MMOs. Even the blue mage is kind of a step in the right direction imo, in that we now have limited jobs as a possibility. There are lots of job concepts like a dodge-tank that can't really otherwise be implemented because realistically all jobs of a certain role have to be interchangeable.

>>16602674

>>16602638

I have zero investment in this shit and Final Fantasy in general, but isnt the deal with the Viera that they cant fucking stand the opposite gender of their own race and stay as far the hell away from each other except to reproduce and pick up any male children when they are born?

Why would there be bunny boys?

>>16603624

I don't know if it is that they can't stand each other. It's just what they do. There are some animals in nature that behave this way. It is kinda of surprising that you see female viera NPCs that leave the woods to live with everyone else but no males doing the same. At any rate it'd be weird seeing them both together in FFXIV.

>>16603624

>>16603656

The female Viera live in villages. The males live in solitude, venturing into the villages only for breeding or to pick up any young males to teach them how to hunt and shit.

>>16603713

Aah I see, I assumed they had their own male-only village elsewhere. Maybe they don't come to live among the settled folk because they prefer gay bun-on-bun romance in hinterlands.

>>16603750

>>16603713

absolutely based. now i want a bunnyboy actually

https://archive.fo/pUOdG

WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING THIS FUCKING GANE YOU GODDAMN TRAITORS

>>16603594

It's more that it's a dwarf lalafells village that accommodate their small size. Lalafells can go inside the houses but no other races, however they can look through the windows to see what's going on inside.

>>16601645

It makes sense, most faerie lore is based on celtic myth.

>>16604107

>>16604110

You may jest, but it seems like in The First, they may actually be banned from the cities, seeing as they are a beast tribe and all.

>>16604252

The dwarves maybe, but dwarves are never seen without their helmet and beard, so they'll be like "What the fuck is this? Well it doesn't look like it's made out of marble so it's probably fine."

>This themepark simulator again

Why are these threads still allowed?

>>16604469

can't*

>>16604469

You get it from the Square store.

https://square-enix-games.com/

>>16601151

The world isn't alive, the zones and cities are completely dead because everyone just afks or roleplays or takes pretty selfies in one city. If you're not into those things or house decoration, this game isn't for you. Oh, I mean, you can also raid ie do the same 4 fights for months and months until new 4 fights come out and then repeat the process. And the gameplay is about to get much more boring because they're significantly dumbing down combat classes.

Stay away from mmos dude, that's my advice.

>>16604484

That still gives no information about the starter edition containing Heavensward.

All it says is that it includes ARR, but that should be obvious.

>>16604516

>That still gives no information about the starter edition containing Heavensward.

Because it doesn't, you have to get the free copy of Heavensward from the store separately and they give you a key to unlock it.

>>16604535

Also if you plan on preordering Shadowbringers it also includes all previous expansions but they won't be unlocked until shadowbringers comes out.

>>16604539

I'll have some catching up to do so I don't see the point in buying this huge amount of content from the get go. From what I know I might even get bored halfway through ARR.

That's why I'm putting in the less amount of money as possible.

>>16604549

Smart move, anon. Try before you buy.

Fair warning though, ARR content is really dated at this point. You'll only really experience more challenging content in HW and beyond.

>>16604731

>HW

>SB

>challenging

>>16604869

All things relative, anon. SB > HW >>>>> ARR in terms of "challenge".

But you're right, they're all rather easy. ARR is just really much more brain dead, with fights boiling down to tank and spank all the way to 50.

>>16604506

The Lalafell is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a potato and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>16604888

>>16604869

Also doesn't help that any modicum of challenge has been nerfed because people complained. Titan HM and EX, Aurum Vale, The Vault. I'm surprised Barden's Mettle and The Burn hasn't been nerfed yet, even if they really aren't that hard (The Mettle hardest part are the first pull and the 2 chained pull before the second boss. The bosses are mostly a joke but the third one, and even then it just more damage. The Burn is easy except for the final boss who hits pretty hard and has quite punishing mechanics. Of course any average tank and healer will do it easily, but then many players are shit.) I wish that SE upped the difficulty of healing and tanking so the "heal only" healers that complaint about the playerbase demanding them to use their full kit would fail utterly, while the players that learned to optimize their healing while using DPS would adapt quickly. Loved how hard The Vault was to heal and each time the Mettle or Doma Castle appear when playing healer it fills me with joy.

On another topic, I'm quite content with the revelation of Lalafellls being Dwarves in the First. From day one I saw them as a strange mix of Hobbits and Dwarves (Planesfolk being dexterous farmers living in holes on the ground, Dunesfolk being ultra jews with an long story of conflicts arise from inner politics and a love for their traditions and families)

>>16605209

I mean that'll never happen, shit they don't even let you point out people's DPS. In the new EULA especially you can be banned for "trying to enforce a playstyle"

>>16601689

>>16603750

The lore states that male children are taught by a "master woods protector" or something like that. And that the training is brutal. The weaker males are killed in the process. Ensuring that only the strongest males survive, pass on their genes, and teach future generations.

>>16605262

Errr… I meant to reply to >>16603879 as well.

>>16605274

>So they aren't playable for lore reasons then

More like so they don't have to make so many new models for armor and stuff. But yeah, that's the official lore explanation.

>>16605281

The fact that they couldn't lift and revamp from XII coupled with the fact that they're going to be putting in headgear over time for the hrothgar and viera seems to point that way. The fact that Yoshi-P has already stated what male viera look like though ("Tall and elegant like elezen") shows that they have at least design documents if not tentative models. They're coming 6.0, same with female hrothgar and I don't mind. Yeah some faggots get what they want, but I think gender locked races is a bad thing in principle, and denying people freedom overall just because it upsets the people I dislike isn't something I'm really for.

>>16605306

I'm of the opposite opinion. I think they shouldn't have rolled over on the Roegadyn women or Miqo'te males. That set precedent that they are willing to bend if people bitch enough. They should have just put their foot down and said, nope, not gonna happen. End of discussion.

>>16605320

Loot is fundamentally cosmetic. It is what it is. Materia is there to help supplement stats for maximizing dps.

>>16605306

>but I think gender locked races is a bad thing in principle

Why? If a race is symbolized by sexy girls, why should they have to shoehorn in a male version?

>>16605320

Loot is there to mask the fact that your gameplay is incredibly stagnant.

>>16605320

Apart from "twinking" materia isn't that useful from what I remember. Seems like you get better equipment often enough that the investment of materia is lost too soon after you get it. You'd be better served getting the absolute best gear prior to the next expansion and then adding materia for the best results. I don't think you can get it back after you slot it or if you try to get it back I think it degrades or some shit like that.

Typical gear optimization treadmill bullshit.

>>16605404

You've got a lot of misinformation there…

Materia can now be removed. And it doesn't downgrade. It just has a chance to fail when you remove it. 40% chance of success with grade 6 (highest). 80% success with grade 5. 100% with grade 4 and below.

Materia is also level restricted in items. So you can't twink with it.

You are right that it is a waste of time to put materia in anything but the very best gear, because it makes little difference until grade 6.

>>16605422

Failed attempts of removing materia destroys it. But materia is dirt cheap anyways, now. So it doesn't really matter.

>>16605432

>I never messed with it, I just remember thinking "This seems like a waste."

It is, until the end game. It gives a decent DPS boost if you properly slot all your best end game gear with grade 6 materia. It's roughly the same gain as getting an additional piece of armor.

>>16605451

>It's roughly the same gain as getting an additional piece of armor.

Actually, more like half a piece of armor nowadays since stats have inflated in the expansion.

>>16605320

Pretty much. The vertical progression of the gear means that most of the time you will just aim for BiS. Is bullshit design so people that do not play games do not get confused and make mistakes. The good thing though is that at the end of the day what differentiates good from bad players is not so much gear as is execution and performance. Also materia is pretty good, not game changing, but it does help, specially when dealing with harder trials.

Don't worry though, SE seem even more keen to rob us of more choice next expansion by taking materia types and making crafted gear more irrelevant.

I hope you niggers have been stocking up on commercial survival and engineering manuals, cordials, lots of crystals, leve allowances and so on.

>>16605488

I mean, it has stats but when you look at loot as a whole, it can all be boiled down to your average item level of all your gear combined. That gives your characters raw effectiveness potential.

You still need to get level appropriate gear, because content is gated by your average item level. It's pretty common in MMOs to gate content this way. That way encounters can be tailored to be challenging to people who meet the minimum requirements.

But all gear is roughly the same in usefulness, because there are special procs or anything truly unique about any of it. That's why I say it's cosmetic. It's just a linearly scaling increase in average stats as item level increases.

>>16605488

>ants.jpg

>loot doesn't matter

I don't know where these niggers get the idea that loot doesn't matter. There's a big difference in a team running, say, Byakko EX with at-level gear vs. a team that's kitted out in ilvl 390+ stuff. We're talking a 33% faster kill time and the ability to cheese mechanics that would have wiped the raid at earlier ilvls. Loot follows a pretty standard MMO progression with the odd piece of crafted gear being BiS at certain tiers for certain classes thanks to penta-melding. This let's the min/max metafags have their fun squeezing every bit of stat out of their gear that they can without limiting people who don't give a shit from clearing 90% of what the game has to offer.

>>16605511

Also what this guy said.

>>16605432

The real challenge is playing through the awful filler MSQ arcs without letting your sub lapse

>>16605488

Why do you fixate in the idea of gear so much? Is vertical progression, yes, is shit. But you need gear to do the highest content. That position is retarded. Savage and Ultimate are some of the most fun and challenging fights, they are also practically useless as you can gear yourself through other means with less effort. If you play a game for the gear alone you are retarded Anon. The gear system is shit yes, but is not everything.

>>16605580

I'm not the anon you replied to. But at this point I mainly just play the game to see the rest of the MSQ. And because raids and primal fights are usually pretty fun. I don't give a shit about gear beyond meeting minimum ilvl.

>>16605609

I like the one that begins with the autist sitting on a bench thinking.

>>16605616

Yes. This one is perfect.

>>16605602

This right here is pretty much what I feel, fights throw at you interesting mechanics, and mastery of jobs relay quite a lot more on execution rather than stats. While they shit up the bed at times, the quality of the content is very stable, and there are pretty good moments. It's flawed as fuck, true, but the feeling of a party working perfectly in tandem and beating an hard fight is great. Playing your job the best as possible, optimizing and finding new strats is great. Doesn't hurt that despite being a fucking MMO, it actually feels more like a classic FF in the MSQ department. If you enjoy it, it can be quite pleasant experience. Add to this that there are narratives moments that mix with the gameplay and it does a pretty good work at keeping you engaged. If anything, the lack of importance of gear makes player individual skill shine even more.

Yet I wont lie, it is a double edge sword, as it means lack of customization and freedom of build. If anything may kill this game in the future, is SE obsession with forcing their players to play in a singular specific way. Things like CC, creative use of skills and more gear customization coupled with more varied content design is needed in my opinion.

>>16605643

The rotations, the fight presentation, and hell the presentation in general is really fucking great in XIV, way above basically any other MMO. A shame everything fucking else sucks.

>>16605643

>Things like CC, creative use of skills and more gear customization coupled with more varied content design is needed in my opinion.

I wouldn't count on this happening, ever.

>SE obsession with forcing their players to play in a singular specific way

This is what they will continue to do. Because it is too risky to do anything else.

But like you said, the game does a lot of things well, if you like the MSQ narrative. If you don't, then you're better off playing something different.

>>16605643

I wouldn't say that, a ton of fights share the exact same "don't stand in X" and only once you get to savage you begin to see anything even remotely deviating from that, and even then it's mostly they just start chaining them together.

>>16605657

>the rotations

>ShB is turning SCH into a 2 button DPS rotation

>>16605676

Healers aren't even supposed to DPS in the first place, so that's a terrible example…

>>16605690

What about DNC's rotation basically just "go down the keys in this order"

>>16605706

I wouldn't say MCH is fixed. It basically lost what even made it psuedo unique (even if it was completely fucking garbage that needed a rework). It's now just generic RDPS class that has a gun

>>16605690

Shit argument, even in the last Live Letter they showed the healer NPC of the Trust System going full DPS on the enemies. Even if we were not supposed to DPS, doing nothing on our downtime is retarded design, as we literally have no other thing to do as WHM or SCH. AST atleast have the card system, and that was simplified. Add that they nerf any instance that is even remotely hard to heal, and you have Healers being bored out of their minds with stupid long downtime.

>>16605676

I'd said they introduced plenty of unique mechanics while mixing old ones, at least on the later stages. Chaos while simple have quite a lot of well defined mechanics that make it enjoyable, and things like Midgasomr tether that you must past to you companions with the shield is pretty nice. Also I'll say using old mechanics in interesting or challenging ways and the homogenization of markers after HW was a great idea to allow a bit more of reactive gameplay while you progress through the raid. Then again, I started doing Savage relatively recently, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

>>16605706

Is DNC bad? seemed like interesting if somehow simple class with a DDR minigame to me. Agree on the GUN, is actually the tank I'm looking foward the most this expansion. More unique DPS rotation among tanks with quite a lot of utility.

>>16605718

>Shit argument

I only said what they are supposed to do. I always DPS when I heal, as much as I can manage while keeping the group up. But really the idea of having a healer DPS rotation is more than a little silly. Because the rotation would continually be broken and interrupted by healing. I'd rather just have something simple but effective to cast between heals.

>>16605715

It's a good counterpart to BRD. Instead of RNG shit and flowing procs, you instead have gun shootman that builds up resources that let you go ham on oGCDs or summon a mech to punch the shit out of someone respectively. The only thing unique about SB MCH is that it's fucking garbage.

>>16605718

You know current SB MCH and how when you don't have ammo your rotation is just pushing one button hoping a 50% RNG proc favors you so you can push the next button? That's all DNC has for a rotation. The (only two) DDR dances themselves are strong and will probably hard-lock DNC as a meta job, but it's just DPS increases.

>>16605746

Eh yeah, but it at least felt different over bard's "hit buttons". It was absolute trash, but you could've at least done something to it to sort of preserve some of the systems rather than "scrap everything but spellnames". Ammo would've worked if it wasn't your only way to force procs, like give ammo additional effects or something so it's a very hard burst over "please RNG help me"

>>16605770

That's effectively what the new heat system does now. You burn 50 of it to enter an 8 second burst phase whenever you want. You can even line things up so that you can maintain it for 16 seconds if you need to push a specific phase as hard as possible. Plus, with wildfire now ticking a flat amount off GCDs instead of raw damage, you no longer need to live inside the server cluster to actually play the job.

>>16605793

except they scrapped a ton for it is my issue

>>16605745

I think this is a miscommunication. "Not supposed to DPS" says "Shouldn't be throwing out DPS" when I think you mean "Are not expected to need to DPS." While I disagree with you on this, healers are, quite evidently, 'supposed' to be allowed to DPS.

>>16605745

> But really the idea of having a healer DPS rotation is more than a little silly. Because the rotation would continually be broken and interrupted by healing.

But that was what was fun about it, you had to use your oGCD spells and heals that maximize your DPS. Optimizing was all about creating downtime for more DPS. Also the issue lies too not so much in that we lost DPS rotation (which only happened to SCH), but in the fact that there isn't any interesting thing to do now on downtime. Instead of a moderately engaging DPS rotation that isn't too complex, we spam 1 spell and renovate 1 DoT. Thing is, it was a simple thing before, but you it was more stimulating that AST or WHM DPS. You technically didn't even focus to much in DPS if you didn't want to, it was an option. Many of us that enjoyed SCH from the beginning of ARR did so because of its kits, including its DoT based and more complex DPS rotation.

>I only said what they are supposed to do

Even the trust system's npc fucking dps. The squad healer dps. SCH had tons of attacks from day one. Even if you go through the FF saga, SCH almost every game used black and white magic while analyzing enemies weaknesses. In FFXIV, we had 6 year in which the SCH niche was established; a pet healer focused on shields and the most complex DPS rotation of the healers. And even if you say that SE dictates what it is supposed to do, this doesn't erase that it is a shit decision and a slap on the face. If at least hey gave us something, an interesting system focused on buffing/debuffing, more pet management (instead of less), interesting shit to do on our downtime it may have been fine, instead of fucking nothing.

>>16605746

>You know current SB MCH and how when you don't have ammo your rotation is just pushing one button hoping a 50% RNG proc favors you so you can push the next button? That's all DNC has for a rotation. The (only two) DDR dances themselves are strong and will probably hard-lock DNC as a meta job, but it's just DPS increases.

You know, this made me think that maybe it may have actually worked better as healer. Instead of a boring DPS rotation that is tacked in to not make it too hard, they could instead have an interesting healing kit and a game play focused on balancing buffing with healing with a very simple DPS kit.

>>16605810

>You know, this made me think that maybe it may have actually worked better as healer.

I've been asking for DNC to be a melee healer since day 1 but SE is gay

>>16605801

The only things they scrapped were ammo, and turning the old turrets into a baby bitch version of the mech to hold you over until 80. The former was gay and the latter was fire and forget. Do I agree that it would've been cooler if they added crazy ammo stuff for special effects etc.? Yeah. But what we're getting is still an objective upgrade over what we had.

>>16605865

Yeah it is, but it just feels super generic now. The ultimate attack thing is a whole other issue, but I'll reserve judgement on how much of a dumb idea they are until I see how much of your dps they account for.

>>16606020

probably just to clear the quest, lots of fresh 70's the past few months

>>16606020

>>16606141

Achievements and mounts. Also completion and entertainment, which seem pretty good enough reasons. Yet you are right about the system. Is pretty shit, and is like that to accommodate the casual player so he doesn't makes mistakes or becomes "confused" by the RPG elements.

>>16606020

Yeah but thats not really the selling point. In WoW its clearly that casinoesque dopamine rush chasing purple treadmill. People want the numbers bigger because it makes the virtual penis the big virtual penis.

The selling point for XIV is its an mmorpg that pulls off the single player job system that a lot of people love and is really one of two games that have done it well. You don't go 'boy i can't wait for the new expansion to grind out all my gear' like some neckbeard schlub playing destiny as an escape from the real world. You are going 'i wonder which jobs are going to be the ones that surprise me with how much fun i have this tie' like a weeb asshole chasing a system single player games run in fear from.

I got every job to 70 and had fun doing so. I got my main RDM to around 390 and haven't have a problem with any content but i also can go 'hey i'm a bit bored so lets do this content as BRD because i can' and that is a way more interesting idea for me from an mmo over 'please drop a version of this rare thing!' because lets be real here and rip the band aid off: thats pretty much gachashit in games like WoW at this point. A chinese bugman screaming on twitch about getting his SSS++ platinum foil ship girl is no different than some rat faced social detritus on youtube screaming about his titanforge proc.

Here gear is just a number to get to new stuff. Thats all i want it to be, doesn't have to be for everyone but it also means gear isn't the be all end all like it is in games like most western mmorpgs where its a mad dash to the 10% of content at the end to get on a treadmill like a labrat who doesn't see the maze for the walls.

>>16606141

The only value gear ever has is its appearance, unless you're some Diablo nigger who like grinding for incremental upgrades.

>>16606178

So this game is just a social chat room where you play dress up with your doll and maybe if your one of the lucky few you can play house too.

>>16606178

>The only value gear ever has is its appearance

This. It's basically a game of dress up with glamours.

>>16606192

>if your one of the lucky few you can play house too

It's very easy to get a house. There are plenty now and the constantly open up over time. Especially a small plot. But even medium plots open up fairly often.

>>16606202

Plot Twist: its about who is the most dapper gentlemen, e-Thots leave!

>>16606202

>So glamour is endgame confirmed

It has been that way since damn near forever. It's not some new idea.

>>16606202

There is even a community to mod your outfits in FFXIV. Nude mods, etc.

>>16606174

>>16606178

While the game is not designed for any other kind of system, and what you said is actually right, gear can actually be used in a horizontal progression, where character could be build for different things and different gear would allow for different styles of game.

>>16606192

>>16606193

>>16606202

Why the fuck you jump to this conclusion? What about just beating the fucking game instead of focusing on getting gear? Really, that gear at the end of the day isn't really the main point of FF XIV. The fights itself are what are worth doing. The system could have been better but do not act as the glamour shit is the sole point. Shockingly, most people do fights because they find them fun, they challenge themselves to achieve maximum performance or do them with non conventional party composition.

>>16606261

>What are the most lore friendly races for races being added to the lore

Nigger what?

>>16606261

Viera/Vis are recluses that live i the woods, feral, xenophobic and violent and almost all women bar a few lonely studs that roam the wilds as nature guardians.

Ronso/Hrothgar are fiercly honour bound warriors but rather than usual 'muh honour tho' savages they are knights and engineers whos queen rules them as a alpha female with a male harem and a is a savant at military tactics. The Gunblade was their invention and staple weapon.

>>16606266

>>16606261

I'm just going to assume that you wound up meaning lore friendly jobs and go from there.

>Viera

>Closely connected to nature and the woods.

I'd say probably archer or conjurer.

>Hrothgar

>Noble savages (They live this way by choice, not due to lack of technology though)

Probably gunbreaker (which they invented) or warrior.

>>16606222

>What about just beating the fucking game instead of focusing on getting gear?

Dunno why you're spazzing out about this. Of course, I enjoy those other aspects of the game. But once you've completed them all, then all that is left is dress up.

>>16606178

But you do grind for incremental upgrades every couple of months when a new patch hits.

>>16606279

>I'm just going to assume that you wound up meaning lore friendly jobs and go from there.

Yea, i did. I'm just abit drunk atm is all.

>Viera archer or conjurer.

>Hrothgar gunbreaker or warrior.

So only starting jobs?

>>16606286

Different anon here, but I usually just grind enough to get to the minimum ilvl to do the new content a few times. Then maybe level up an alt for a bit until I get bored, then wait for the next major update.

>>16606294

Gunbreaker is unlocked at level 60, warrior is unlocked by taking marauder to level 30. Archer and conjurer are starting classes with Bard and White Mage basically just being the growth of them (at level 30 respectively for both) but not QUITE as lore friendly.

>>16606281

Because, unless I'm getting mixed up, some anons were implying on their criticism that the only value of doing content was to get gear. These lines in particular started this discussion.

>It’s a shame, cause I want to like the game but the garbage loot is killed it for me.

>Gear being worthless means that the content is utterly irrelevant. Loot is a basic concept yet xiv somehow even screws that up. Disappointing.

While they are right that the system is shit, I find it baffling that the value of the content is being judge mostly on the "loot", nor if is actually any fun. The typical "is all about glamour guise, tranny fantasy XIV" is also getting really old. Nothing wrong with farming shit for glamour and housing, anon, is just these strange extreme attitudes that are getting kind of tiring.

>>16606341

>these strange extreme attitudes that are getting kind of tiring

People just like to exaggerate.

>>16606294

>>16606306

Also it may be a bit complicated on the vieras part as there may be certain discrepancies on how they are portrayed on FF XIV compared to twelve, but I think >>16606279 has pretty much the gist of it. Also >>16606273 , wanted to point out that there is a Hrothgar tribe that actually choose to live in exile and abandon their queen.

>>16606279

>Hrothgar

>Probably gunbreaker (which they invented)

Wait what? I thought that was the empire

>>16606476

Different kind of gunblades over there. Theirs are swords that also function as guns, these are swords that have a trigger that fires a charge that causes the blade to vibrate increasing striking power.

>>16606491

>we could have had sweet garlean weapons, being taught how to use them by the Black Wolf himself

>instead we get nigger-tier vibroswords

Fucking Yoshi

>>16606597

In the last live letter they showed character slides and it said Thancred learned his gunblade techniques in the garlean empire wtf Yoshi

>>16606192

>>16606202

>>16606141

WoWnigger projects the insecurities he has towards his own game on to another game.

>>16606628

I think that's perfect for Thancred tbh. He'll have his own unique style of Garlean-influence Gunbreaker martial arts that will set him apart from the rest of the GNB's the world will have. You have to give the guy props; instead of moping over losing all of his aether from the Flow incident back in 2.0, he just keeps on trucking and finding new ways to be badass and useful. I have a personal theory that he was able to get away with spying on Zenos after Krile was kidnapped exactly because he has no aether and therefore Zenos couldn't detect him with his Resonance.

>>16607457

Stick with WAR because BIG FUCKING AXE, and getting ANGRY is more Guts like than being an edgelord.

>>16607457

We should get a Berserk crossover.

>>16601821

still better than WoW, playing with only 4 abilities from level 10 until level cap where you have 4-6 buttons to regularly press depending on class.

>>16602638

Maybe it's coz I play on the Australian/JP server but Novice Network is basically the same as /b2/ shit posting and can sometimes sound like /pol/

>>16605488

Gear grinding being obsolete was how it was in Ultima Online. Only WoWfags grind 24/7 for gear.

>>16607684

>Right? I think it works too, that and the big ass sword.

You'll particularly enjoy the story line from 30-50 of DRK.

>>16607684

It's weird how Raubahn is under Zenos and not Estinien. Makes me wonder if Raubahn would be stronger than Zenos if he had his other arm and was enraged, if that makes a difference.

>>16607457

Just make sure you tank better than WoW refugees. Watch tutorials on shit and you should be good

>>16607606

>WAR so far has always been the best tank in MT position

[Laughs in ARR launch]

Does anyone else ever just go into random people's apartments to see what it looks like?

>>16608565

All the damn time. If they have some sort of bath structure anywhere, I'll get naked, invite some FC mates in who also get naked, and we have a naked party in their house. The silent air of awkwardness when the owner gets home and we just all wave in unison never gets old. It's also a good way to increase the number of houses that are restricted to the public.

>>16608565

Constantly

>>16608667

Found the roegadyn.

>>16608702

Is it that obvious?

>>16608707

Yes. You probably wear a "Silly Headpiece", Emperor's new robe or south seas talisman and the coeurl print speedo dyed some sort of metallic color

Any examples of how FFXIV is pozzed? I was thinking about playing it.

>>16608723

Guys can wear the playboy bunny outfit. Boys can marry boys, girls can marry girls. There's a gay couple in one quest that never show up again. Honestly that's about all of it within the game itself. Otherwise they'll just do the same shit any normal company will do, you can't name yourself Faggot Mcfaggotson. You can't call people niggers in shout chat.

>>16608667

I once walked into 4 people sitting in my bath in my apartment. Wonder if that was you guys.

>>16608688

It's only rude if you jerk off on their bed.

>>16608714

You got the Roe part right, but the outfit right now for SAM consists of the Kinna Blade with Pagos top and Thavnairain trousers, the puffy MC hammer pants, not the whoreish fishnet-wannabes the summer sandals and the Ivalice SAM headpiece from Orbonne. Whatever those are called.

Worth noting that I'm a femRoe too, because almost every male Roe I know has at least one outfit similar to what you're describing.

>>16608736

>Faggot McFaggotson

We used to have a Roe male named Maximus Testicles. Ever since 2.0 he had that name, and the last time I saw him a month or so ago he still had it. I can only assume he would tell anyone who complained that his name is pronounced Test-uh-cleez.

>>16608723

Aside from what the other anon said, not that bad. There's a lot of adult stuff in the background. Local NPC's that, once you get close enough to them, will make a comment that reveals they're whores trying to get a mark. And in at least one case, the whores are actually thieves who are trying to rob some other NPCs. The front-facing stuff is pretty standard theme park sanitary, but there's lots of detail deeper in the game that will surprise you.

>>16608743

If it was on Levi, then probably yes. If the group consisted of an amazonian femRoe, a cute Elezen and two potato's then I apologize in advance. I've been trying to get the potato's to race change to something more acceptable but they're stubborn.

>>16608751

Oh no it was Balmung. And they were all lizard girls so they were probably trannies. I should clean that bathtub.

>>16608736

I said nigger in shout chat once in Limsa. Never got a warning for it. Guess I was lucky.

>>16608770

I got banned for calling the retards running Labyrinth a bunch of niggers because they couldn't understand years-old mechanics

>>16608887

If you're the faggot I think you are, you did a bit more than just calling them niggers once. You were pushing HARD to get banned.

>>16609081

What can I say? They were a special breed of stupid and I would know, I'm not particularly bright myself

>>16609171

No, there was an anon in a previous thread that intentionally went out of his way to get banned to test the new TOS/GM responses. That's who the other anon is referring to, I think.

I've just started playing the Ivalice raid for the first time. I always assumed we were just flying to the continent of XII, but then all the Tactics stuff and alternate history business hit me. Really interesting what they've done, but I suppose it's par for the course for FF–even games in the same "series" like Type Zero, XII and XV are not in the same world. I kinda dig it, it does make writing my Viera's backstory a lot easier. Sometimes referencing characters with entirely different roles, like Ashe and Rasler being twin siblings and Ba'Gamnan being an army captain is a bit confusing, but making montblanc a gutless coward was amusing.

>>16609572

>Not simply appreciating your Viera's backstory

>>16609572

If you're playing a viera then the backstory should already be written.

A short story consisting of two words, dat ass

>>16609739

That's a backside anon.

>>16609924

>the white man's burden.png

In case anyone missed the Shadowbringers login screen.

>>16608751

>asking the master race to get a race change

Truly these are dark times

>>16611593

>>16611629

I don't know how blizzard thinks some shitty new zone with the same boring world quests and even more rep grinds is going to compete with an entire expansion pack, the best part is it was finished months ago but they held it back just to release it right before shadowbringers, they are fucking delusional if they think this will effect XIV in any way.

I wonder how many subs they lost this week alone?

>>16611655

From datamined numbers of active WoW subscriptions vs the official report from E3 of FFXIV, they've been dethroned.

Tryna get this Hydatos weapon before ShB…fuck Eureka

Eurofag here, what's a good server to play on?

inb4 it doesn't fucking matter because everything is instanced and shared between servers like all modern mmos.

>>16611681

No king lives forever.

>>16617419

Yeah you can visit other worlds but certain actions such as housing and free companies are locked off. You can't visit other regions though.

I'm playing on Louisoix and it seems fine, I'm still only using the free trial though so it's not like I have much of an experience, EU servers have the lowest population, so if you're running DPS expect some queue time.

I think you can always data transfer to other regions if you have a standard account, so there's also that.

>>16611655

>I wonder how many subs they lost this week alone?

Currently WoW subs have increased by a small margin due to them locking Classic behind a subscription and advertising it through e-celebs who stream. The company is aware of it's dying population and they're desperately trying to get more active players on retail, which the product has currently reached an all time low and since 8.2 being Naga/ Mecha-gnomed focused with some changes to the core game, like how mounts work and shit. They're pretty much wishing to get back some of the players they lost with this patch. So, you'll be seeing them advertise this patch more as the days go on.

>>16617419

>what's a good server to play on?

depends on which datacenter you're talking about.

>Crystal.

Balmung/Diabolos.

>Primal.

Leviathan/Behemoth.

>Aether.

Gilgamesh/Cactuar.

>Chaos.

Ragnarok/Moogle.

>Light.

Shiva/Odin

>Gaia.

Bahamut/Fenrir.

>Elemental.

Tonberry.

>Mana.

Chocobo

>>16617492

>>16617606

I ended up going Twintania because apparently it's a 3 day old server and it gives XP boost.

>>16617606

>Cactuar still congested

Fucking damn it. And it won't unlock anytime soon I assume, not until Crystal is full with the new wave of players coming this expansion at least.

>>16610818

That's not going to be annoying every time I get disconnected.

>>16619688

Probably the right choice, if you want to play with anyone from other servers you can always just visit them.

>Convince three friends to play

>Casually leveling through stormblood so I'm ready for shadowbringers release

>Get invited by some mass recruit FC

>Despite having 100 people logged in its the same 5-10 people in chat every time I'm online

>No one does anything together other than these active people

>Coincidentally most of them are officers

>One day the FC leader creates a whole channel on discord leaving up screenshots of a dude just trying to get some e-puss

>It was the one guy in the FC who helped me with anything

>The girl(?) tries to bait him into buying her a 56 mil house in-game

>He clearly was not going to do it, but he goes deep anyways

>It was left up as "an example of abuse" despite no screenshot containing her denying him or telling him to stop

>Don't really give a fuck because I'm just there for the buffs and free shit they raffle I could sell

>However, one man with an insatiable thirst for justice does not let this slide

>After learning the truth behind the matter he takes it out on the FC

>Naturally these people think they did no wrong and their arguments hinge around "it was decided by a vote" and "it's the stance of this guilds authority"

>Happens the night of the finale for game of thrones, which he spoils ingame and on discord for all to see

>The typical active FC members start to screech and one of them calls an officer, waking them up, to kick him and delete the messages

>They tried to blacklist him from all FCs by posting about it in the Hunt and FC general discords

If you're out there, I know you're here because of the niggle joke. I just want you to know they are still crying about you a month later

Anyone on light DC wants to be my friend? I'm lonely and I suck at socializing. No lewd.

>>16631309

Name?

>>16620567

>>16625676

FFXIV is a weeb game and as such attracts the SJWeebs that get riled up over stuff like that.

>>16631331

Kali Mekhara on Phoenix Feel free to add me to run roulettes in Shb or just hang out.

>look at official forums

>see male viera megathreads

Male Vieras are going to the the high elves of FFXIV aren't they?

>>16601899

Shinryu is a pretty big casual wall. I remember seeing people complaining that he was too hard for a mandatory story boss.

Just curious, how many of your party died to the opening tidal wave? It's my favorite part since usually a couple or more people aren't prepared for it.

>>16631552

Didnt watch a guide so yes that happened

>>16631552

When i was playing through Stormblood the first time, i thought the first Kami fight against the Lord of Revel was the first big casual wall. Mainly because it was the first MSQ fight I can think of in which you had to basically know what the boss was going to do before he did it and start moving before the telegraphs show up.

>>16608751

>There's a lot of adult stuff in the background.

The sexual obsession several non-potato NPCs have towards Tataru Taru is distrubing. Especially the Garlean officer at Casstum Centri when she is imprisoned.

>>16631363

I just saw one of the threads, what an absolute shitshow. These fucking faggots should be considered clinically insane, it's ridiculous.

But if male Viera ever get added, then yes, even worst than high elves.

I’m Vic Plasterson on Goblin. I’m not the best player but I’m not the worst either. Haven’t hit my nose to the grindstone to learn EX fights and the endgame stuff cause I don’t have any friends to play with. My FC doesn’t really talk to me when I type things, they might have me on ignore I do get drunk and say things in the novice network so maybe that’s why? SCH has been my class forever. Way better story than WHM though I haven’t done the 60+ quests for a full comparison. People bitching about how they gotta heal more in Shadowniggers but half the roulettes I do get tanks pulling tons of mobs and not blowing any CDs and being in DPS stance so I do plenty of healing already so I don’t think I’ll have much trouble. Sucks about Selene just being a skin, I rocked her and her 3% speed buff spell because she looked awesome. Been mostly putting together Blue Mage Spell learning groups for the primals, still haven’t learned one! 31/49 spells. You meet a lot of nice people who are just there to help, it’s a nice change of pace from all the dickheads in wow who bitch if things aren’t super quick and perfect. The Carnival is new and fun. You get to use all your neat spells and their abilities are all just super handy. Can be a little tough at times but easy once you get your strategy down with the right spells. I’m just excitedly waiting for the expansion. Won’t bother leveling another class cause they all change with the expansion so learning them is kinda useless at the moment.

>>16632827

Are you 12? Or just autistic? Or both?

>>16632921

maybe but at least i'm not a nigger

>>16632837

Thanks

>>16632827

>People bitching about how they gotta heal more in Shadowniggers

Wrong. People are complaining that both the kits of SCH and AST has been gutted and simplified. SCH, which has teh most complex DPS rotation now is the same as AST which is the same as WHM. AST card system instead of being balanced has been simplified, so instead of 6 different cards with different effects, now we have 6 cards with the same effect, but that give you 3 different seals that you use to access an stronger buff. If anything, DPSing is easier than ever now in ShB so more people will DPS, and probably a bunch of veteran healers will switch to dancer after having their classes made less fun. WHM is better, but sadly it hasn't received neither of the thing that were more demanded by the players, support spells like buffs, and oGCD heals, so they may or may not still be the less desired healer despite SE efforts to balance the three.

>>16633009

You forgot to mention in everything they've shown off healing is just as easy as it always was. That entire rumor was started by them giving tanks a 15% DR buff as a passive and then claiming "oh enemies do more damage, but it evens out to % wise being the same as all the other content

>>16633358

Is that a walrus?

>>16620567

This man deserves several beers. The good shit too. At least 8% ABV stuff.

>>16631350

SJWeebs are ironically both the thirstiest and sluttiest people on earth, and they're easy as sin to set off.

It's great.

>>16634171

That's not ironic.

>>16634234

it's like rain

>Shadowniggers in 3 days

So, what's everyone's bike-stealing plan for when we become the Niggest Warrior?

>>16635080

What's 8.2? WoW?

>>16634682

Being the biggest dickest gunslanga and coke trafficker

>>16635080

Shadowbringers is putting WoWfags on suicide watch.

>>16635080

That's pretty dumb for sure, but you'd be blind to not see that FFXIV is repeating the same mistakes WoW made.

>>16634682

Finishing Stormblood a second time on the server my friend is on, because playing alone was shit and MMOs are trash without friends.

>>16636643

A little of wanting a fresh start and a little of not wanting to spend the money to server transfer. Besides it was fun playing with a friend from the start.

>>16636643

I'm talking about homogenization more than anything else. Healers specifically in SB are getting massive shafts when it comes to complexity, same with tanks solidifying as blue DPS even if no one even touched the damn tank stance because the game has completely stagnated as far as bosses go. They neutered a lot of Raid wide dps increases to basically make way for dancer, who is an incredibly simple class.

SB was awful as far as raiding goes with all of omega being a nostalgia wank fest as opposed to just the large fights. 24 mans have always been banking on nostalgia, and you can't say 1.0 had good raids, because 1.0 was awful. So it's only from 2.0-3.0 and then 4.0 was shit raid wise.

Story is a complete clusterfuck, with a massive amount of filler still that needs to either be trimmed. ShB is introducing too wide of an area increase to not be considered a shitshow lore wise. It's basically at this point they can pull infinite expansions out because "it's juts a different shard" which while not as lazy as the WoD expansion, still is the precursor to complete story collapse easily.

>>16636631

Are you on a preferred server? If so can i join.

>>16636669

>Game isn't even out yet so you shouldn't judge

I hope this isn't the case but random anons here usually tend to be more right than wrong.

>>16636730

>Toddposting

>ID: 2faec

in'shallah the meems™ are bleeding through the walls again

>>16634682

Bitches be clingin on ma motherfuckin big black sword, so imma have a Viera prostitute ring do nasty shit for gil while I sell coke on the side and haterape the living aether out of healsluts fo not healing dis dick enough when I'm tankin primals n shiet

>>16601151

The game is literally weeb tranny trash.

If you aren't

A) a woman

B) gay

C) an autistic weeb

then the game will be quite boring for you, because ultimately, the story is bad, like excessively bad and the combat is casual console kiddy shit.

Now, personally I play it because I am weeb trash so I enjoy shitty stories with ridiculous voice acting, I find it funny and I erp all the time and mod so the game suits me very well

but if you were looking for a videogame instead of basically second life with a final fantasy backdrop well then…the game just doesn't offer much.

It's far too limited by being a shitty console game

>>16636669

Worst thing they could do is homogenize the classes which they seem to be doing.

Shit I really hated when they added in "Role" actions in place of cross job skills; worse in every way and also killed a lot of uniqueness of classes.

This is racist towards shadows.

>>16637189

The entire game is about coddling shadows and how the light is the enemy.

>>16637164

>>16636977

I mean, I'm not wrong, get real

No one die before Friday.

>>16601174

>the game picks up in HW

lol no it doesn't, the jobs don't get fun to play until you hit 70 unironically

too bad stormblood sucks

>>16637422

Nigga not all the servers here are full of erp faggots, if you deliberatly search and go to servers full of that shit its on you not anyone else.

>>16637511

>Samurai

>Red Mage

>Not fun

Get out of here

>>16637595

I'm not saying erp is a bad thing but unironically recommending the game to someone based on "the combat" is a joke, it's a console game and the actual fights are highly mediocre

and frankly, it's a jrpg, it's a final fantasy game so if you don't have a really high tolerance for cheesy stories, you will hate the game. It's just a fact, ffxiv is niche

also

>RDM

boring as piss

>SAM

lmao so you're just a fucking retard, both of those jobs are awful to play, if you wanted to point out actually fun jobs you could've said SMN or BRD or even DRG

>Queue dungeon as war before the ToS update

>Arboretum

>Notice potato nigger as my healer, a sch

>Hit sprint and pull wall to wall

>Use cooldowns

>The potato trashcan is choking on her own spit

>Go into defiance, hit equilibrium

>12 seconds have passed without any healing

>No idea if the fairy is even summoned

>Die

>My corpse gets excog'd

>Respawn at the entrance

>Glance at the quit button, decide against it

>Grab my controller

>Play with the two thumbsticks, only need to move and use butcher's block/overpower

>The dungeon is so fucking slow that the Lalanigger resorts to tanking on her own

>Despite my best efforts, dungeon takes about 35 minutes

>Roll on some minion, get it with 99

>>16637207

The entire mmo is about coddling shitters and how skill is the enemy.

>>16637626

>Combat

Same as every other mmorpg

>it's a jrpg, it's a final fantasy game so if you don't have a really high tolerance for cheesy stories

its still manages to be better than other rpg's, Other's would have you believe after you've finished a mission you're a general or some shit but at the end of the day you're still a glorified errand boy. This one you're just a primal slayer plus you actually get some damn character development.

>actually fun jobs you could've said SMN or BRD or even DRG

Playing two op classes jesus no wonder you're complaing about combat.

>>16637680

Don't jinx this with your shit tier luck.

>>16637626

>it's a console game and the actual fights are highly mediocre

I enjoy the encounters in FFXIV so far. They feel more lively, violent and involving than anything I can remember from my WoW-raiding days. The story is absolute dog-shit garbage weaboo trash though. The end of ARR main story was so dull, drawn out and anti-climactic I actually had to boot up another game to pass the time from all the millions of shitty generic unskippable JRPG cutscenes. I hope it gets better in the expansions.

>>16620567

Sup lad, its Haku. The new FC I found is pretty good, and its members are all good people. If you want me to get you in, just PM me and I'll get you and your friends through the process.

I wasn't going to let those californian cunts and soyboys get away with such an injustice. He was the only one who helped me too, concidentally and hes the one that invited me to the new FC. Within the hour I joined the FC they PM'd the leader and accused me of racism, even sending them screenshots of the private chat I had with their officer who called me a gutless coward immediately after, kek

>>16637683

>complaining about jobs being op in pve game

lmfao

also fuck off BRD is fun as fuck, only brainlets plays retard shitter classes like SAM and retard mage

>>16637694

>they feel more lively

no, they don't all the stupid transitions and immunity phases are such a mood killer that it almost reminds me of warframe bosses, well of the few that didn't get one shot.

It's just awful

>I hope it gets better

you know, honestly it's still cheesy but the ShB stuff so far actually looks entertaining enough to not make me want to die this time around

>>16637810

All the final fantasy games are cheesy as shit, that doesn't make them bad by default, but it takes a special taste (being 14 years old) to unironically find the writing good.

>I really enjoy the fights much more than any other mmo

how, most of the fights are pure garbage. I like the ultimate raids and I do like some and I underline some savage fights but those are frankly once a week activities, everything else is really quite dull. I have never found any of the extreme primals to be anything other than annoying.

Housing is fun though, well at least to decorate, too bad the actual housing system is dogshit and makes it near impossible to get a new house or move

>>16637949

>he doesn't pvp

>plays BRD and calls other Brainlets shits on other fun classes

Nigga that is uncalled for.

>but it takes a special taste (being 14 years old) to unironically find the writing good.

What do you consider good writing?

>>16637972

It doesn't have to be good, it just has to be not completely awful, as is the case with final fantasy.

the divinity franchise, witcher, deus ex, baldurs gate. These games all of passable, to good writing and that's what makes them enjoyable, it enhances the game so even if the gameplay gets sluggish at times you're willing to forgive it because the story is enough to make you trod through.

The story in ffxiv is so bad, that it makes the game at many points feel like a straight up slog and chore to get through.

Having to go through the forced msq is bad enough but the post quests are truly awful.

At least in other mmos you can skip the shit story, you can't do that in xiv which is a big flaw. I guarantee if SE every became not retarded and just let people ignore the msq and level up and progress by doing literally anything else, the playerbase would quadruple

>>16637989

>the playerbase would quadruple

Why would we want that? The reason why WoWniggers are so hated is because they came from a game that's essentially the greater rift treadmill from D3 but done up in all purdy 3D graphics n' shiet. They have no patience, no willingness to put effort into anything. They just want to click on their menu and get warped to their dungeon until they hit level cap, where they then continue to click on a menu and warp into their dungeon, only this time it says "Mythic" next to it.

Keep that trash attitude out of here. Yes, the 2.0 MSQ can be a slog because they had to make up for 1.0, which meant tying a lot of loose ends and building up to 3.0. That's fine though. If someone can't hack it through the 2.0 MSQ or doesn't buy a skip then that's fine, they can gtfo and take their bullshit with them.

>>16638036

>Why would we want more players in our massively multiplayer online game

>hurr muh wow

Unironic mental illness, a required msq is a mistake, the story is bad and no, heavansward was hardly better and stormblood was almost as bad as arr. You can't take a real criticism and just say

>Oh well I know it's bad but I don't want more players in the game anyway

Kill yourself you absolute retard. Who the hell sits there, looks at a way by which the game could be tangibly improved and then just goes "nah, I want it to stay shitty" what the hell is wrong with you?

Should SE stop doing graphical updates too because it might attract people who enjoy pretty games you fucking retard? Kill yourself.

You should be allowed to play the videogame from level 1 all the way to max level without paying for boosts and without being forced to participate in a glorified visual novel.

>>16638105

Subjective opinions are subjective. You don't like the story and I rather enjoy it. You don't like it, gtfo. It's that simple.

As to "improvements" for the game, those are also subjective. Eliminating large chunks of the story simply because people have the attention span of a gnat isn't an improvement. I like my games to have integrity to their stories, not for shit to just get retconned because reasons like in WoW.

>You should be allowed to play the videogame from level 1 all the way to max level without paying for boosts and without being forced to participate in a glorified visual novel.

You already can, with the only unskippable stuff being CM and Praetorium. Everything else, literally every single cutscene is skippable. You can even set up an auto-skip confirmation where a single button lets you skip an entire cutscene. There is literally no reason to complain about cutscenes. If you don't want to watch them you have ample options in game to utilize in order to skip them.

>>16638181

>Eliminating large chunks of the story simply because people have the attention span of a gnat isn't an improvement.

Yeah, that's what PSO2 did and it just made me not want to start playing at all.

>>16638181

Just started the game a few days ago, story is fine, standard mmo quest setup, scenes are skippable. Writing and animation jesus christ…but the plot is fairly decent and the material and themes themselves are surprisingly hardcore. Tons of implied rape, murder, casual sexism everywhere despite the 'inclusivity' of it all, there's an escort mission where you escort an escort to her client…It's good if you are looking for an mmo, but everyone in the game is super anime.

If you can't put up with a story in an mmo just admit you are looking for a skinner box experience and we can all move on.

>>16638181

Where's the Story and artistic integrity of "OH YOU SAID EARTH CRYSTAL, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT FIRE CRYSTAL, NOW GO ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD MAP AGAIN" or the massively important MSQ quest of "oh you killed ultima weapon, now go get me 7 marlboro tentacles because we wanted to claim we added MSQ quests in the patch notes"

If there's music I am absolutely sick of hearing, it's this one.

>>16638286

Few spoilers here but on the topic of mature themes:

>be Alisaie

>finally get to really journey around with your twin bro and the WoL and do heroic shit finally

>oh fuq, the beastmen are summoning a primal again!

>pssh, it's just Titan, easy peasy

>oh wait, the kobolds sacrificed the parents of a young kobold right in front of the child's eyes in order to summon Titan again

>oh but wait, the elders of the kobold tribe didn't actually complete the summoning

>in truth, it was the intense wail of despair let loose by the young kobold upon finding out his parents had just perished right in front of him

>proceed to fight Titan (Hard) for the umpteenth time

>only this time his voice lines are a small child crying out in pain and rage for his lost parents

>kobold kid ends up mindbroken from the experience and in the care of the Maelstrom

>you and Alisaie visit him from on occasion in the story line

>as of the end of 4.0 he's still mindbroken

Yeah, there are some pretty fucked up things that go down in this game.

>>16638298

>story

>artistic integrity

I said story integrity nigger. As in a story being cohesive, making sense, and honoring where it came from as much as where it's going. Hell, the current team even used the 4.0 ALC quests to wrap up a loose end from 1.0. I like it when a game gives a damn about it's story, and I like it even more when the people who make the game give a damn about preserving sense in the story. They blew up the fucking world and included it in the reboot of the game for fuck's sake, turning it into THE major plot point around which almost everything revolved. If Blizzard had done something similar, at best we would have seen some bullshit with Medivh, a bit of handwaving about green jesus, and suddenly Deathwing is Neltharion again.

As for the quests itself, if you can't find even a little humor in the constant deflating of the WoL's ego that the game throws at you, then you need to stop taking shit so seriously all the time. Not only is it played for laughs, but it's done as a humanizing device; you're not just some heroic godslaying badass. You deliver food to the men, acquire provisions for camps, find rare medicinal ingredients, and occasionally fertilize fields of rice or grain with freshly picked dung. Because you're a hero of the people.

>>16638212

Seriously. I'll keep my story thanks. If it turns people off to the game, so be it, I'd rather those without patience or the ability to spend 5 minutes in a menu/on google to find out how to skip cutscenes to fuck right off.

>>16638300

Checked. And yes, that particular track just grates on my ears. Now this little beauty here, I could listen to it forever. That fucking bass line. In fact, all the Four Lord's Trial OST's are fucking lit.

5.0 preliminary patch notes niggers

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/d65aa2c282957d3d0fde9e8979c62bcebe5aa9f5

>>16638656

Fuck that stupid fucking kobold. It only exists to clumsily show Alisaie's development after she went MIA to scissor with some dumb cunt until BCoB. It's annoying since I don't give a shit about the kobold, and the game spends too much time convincing me that I should. Which is a non-zero amount.

However I do have to give them props for not simply shelving it and maintaining continuity.

>>16638708

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2016/short_stories/#sidestory_07

Never read it and don't know if it actually contains any implied yuri, but it's a side story of what she was did while absent during 2.0.

>>16638674

Notable things in the patch notes that I see so far

>job quests reduced in number

>each job has a unique job quest at level 80

>from 71 up until that quest at 80, there will be four "role" quests

>tank role, physical dps role, healer role and magical dps role

>Gunbreaker starts in New Gridania (X:11.5 Y:11.9)

>Dancer starts in Limsa ((X:9.8 Y:12.0)

>so log out near there if you want to jump on that ASAP

>QoL stuff and other minor changes, most of which anyone who has frequented these threads or watched the SE letter's will already know about

>standard suite of "old content has been updated with better echo/exp rewards etc"

>Trust system implemented

>70+ only

>Minfilia's job is Oracle of Light

>which apparently is a rogue

>bringing light to the world by stabbing shit I guess

>looks like can only be used after clearing the dungeon normally the first time

>Titania looks cute af

>PVP changes no one cares about

>some QoL stuff for hunts like a little notification when you're close to a personal hunt, or if you're near an S rank

>2.0 and 3.0 tank mounts can now fly

>bunch of crafting changes

>I don't craft, so I'm not sure what this all means

>couple of oft-used cross crafter actions were made baseline (Byregot's and Steady Hand II)

>new choco bardings, resembling GNB and DNC

>DNC one looks kinda cute

>perfect for if you think your sinful chocobo is haram for exposing her face to the world like a god damned whore

>party list updated to show a second bar on or above the main HP bar to indicate relative strength of a shield on that person

>can now set it so targets HP is displayed in 1/10's of a percent while under 1% health

>no more sting of 1% wipes

>now it's the sting of .1% wipes

>updates to FATE's

>get some kind of crystal or something from them, can be turned in to a local NPC for a reward

>interface for that screen looks similar to the aether current interface in some ways

On the one hand I understand what they're doing with the role quests. Certainly easier now that there are like 17 total jobs to make 4 distinct questlines with 17 cap stones instead of making 17 distinct questlines. It's the same content as we got in StB; 4 quests from 60 to 70, with the final quest being the level 70 one. I just wonder what it'll be if you level up another job of the same type.

But on the other hand, man I enjoyed the hell out of the StB job quests I did. Oh the ones I did WHM, AST, DRK, WAR, PLD, SAM, RDM and DRG I enjoyed them all to various degrees, with DRK and DRG more or less taking the cake in terms of pure story, and WAR being what amounted to the Hildibrand of job quests. Maybe the final capstone quest at 80 will be amazing, but I can't help but feel sad that there won't be unique lines for each job.

Then again, it sorta makes sense I suppose. If the jobs from Hydaelyn aren't present in the same way on the First, then it would be hard to find a way to incorporate those jobs into the First without it being hamfisted. Suddenly, every relevant job quest NPC has happened to find their way across space and time to the very place your character happens to be! What a co-inky-dink. So I can understand why SE went with this one. I'll remain optimistic about this.

>>16638656

>easily kill gods that threaten entire worlds

>Kill an entire invading force that's never known defeat

>duhh you're only a person still

>are actually tempered

It's complete disconnect, the WoL is just such an absurdly strong force the padding is awful and is just there to bloat subtime and claim they add MSQ quests in patch notes.

The only reason I'd play this game is for bunnygirl ass. I don't think I can muster up the dedication to commit however, so I'll just wish you guys good luck and happy grinding.

>>16638181

>I like the story

Cringe

>>16638656

>Story cohesion and integrity

>Final fantasy game

Uh…..

How come there's only like 4 or 5 good songs in this game while all the rest are total shit? Is the composer just a huge retard? I hope we get some good music with the nier automata crossover

>emptied armoury chest of all gear not equipped to a job

>empty inventory of all the trash

>dump all the main stat materia thats disappearing in 2 days into crit/det/dh materia the market demands

>Go to the abandoned part of limsa thats always empty and lighter on load in

>Strip

>Pop Fantasia

>Place order on just eat for mixed kebab and spicy salad wraps from local turkish/greek joint to be delivered before launch time

>Got 2 jugs of lovely tropical juice, a 12 pack of diet pepis and dr pepper respectively

>2 bags of walkers spicy mix ups

>3 shin cup BIGs

>2 pork 2 beef and 2 seafood cup noodles

>Fresh veg for a nice refreshing salad and my almond and raisin granola after the nightmare state is over

>Told friends im not playing with i have the flu

>Told family im basically going to be gone for the weekend

Its been many a year since i've gone full social detritus like this. I'm ready to crash and burn, bury me with my Dark Knight statue.

>>16639000

When you got a high sensitivity to metal its the only one that doesn't taste like blood and pennies.

>>16639174

I have and i prefer bottled pepsi but in bongland thats like $8 a bottle and fuuuck that. If i'm gonna splurge i'll import some plain, blueberry, orange or strawberry Ramune and get my Ken Sama on.

>>16639227

In the land of Amerifat it's only $2, What is with those prices? No ones gonna pay the cost of a small meal for a drink.

Is this some stupid tax to tackle obesity?

>>16639245

Gotta pay ur sugar loicense bruv innit

>>16639251

Diet pepsi it is then, guess ill have greek for lunch today too.

>>16639174

because xiv is terrible, that's why I think it's bad, if you want a good final fantasy story I point you to tactics

>game has so many cutscenes it's basically a glorified visual novel

>only like 5 cutscenes per expansion are voiced

why are japanese people obsessed with doing this? If you can't voice a scene, don't add it in, put the lore or whatever in an item description or something.

Dark souls did it right

>>16638745

You missed the best ones:

>The amount of glamours that can be stored in the Glamour Dresser has been increased from 200 to 400.

>The amount of glamour plates available has been increased from 10 to 15.

>>16640309

fug you're right.

>>16638796

Have you played the DRK quests yet? Especially the 60-70 stuff, but also some things from 30-50. It goes into the WoL as an actual person, with a lot of emphasis on people always needing help and the WoL putting aside what they want to "be the hero" and the toll this takes on the WoL. It goes into how the actions of the WoL have affected others, and how that in turn causes guilt and pain for the WoL, and how the WoL deals with it. It's easily the most humanizing questline the game has in terms of how it represents the repurcussions of what the WoL goes through.

>>16638989

>full social detritus

I admit I'm jelly. I could only nab a single day off.

>>16638745

I'd also add in the furniture preview setting. Now I can see what shit actually looks like in my house before placing it down, even what it looks like dyed.

>>16640530

Before buying it that is

>>16639607

It's kind of annoying sometimes, but if the alternative is less dialog then I'm fine with it. Voice acting was a pretty bad thing for RPGs in general, just compare Morrowind to Fallout 4.

>>16640402

>the WoL is an actual person

>who's only responses to situations are angry face, wacky face, upset face, nod, smile or draw weapon before someone else tells him what to do except when draw weapon happens but even then it's a 50/50.

Damn that's humanized as fuck, If I was a mute retard I could totally sympathize with his plight. Maybe they'll add in a long protracted "I'm sad" segment because we all know those are basically 10/10 GOTY writing, look at god of war!

>people actually play this pedophile wow ripoff

yikes

>>16640781

13 useless posts in this thread and you think we don't know they're all by you? Look at the newfag and laugh at his incompetence.

>>16640607

You are retarded. Spectacularly retarded. Here's why - your argument here is that the WoL is a "mute retard" and this is wrong because it ignores the literal dozens of times the PC is presented with the option to voice a response as the WoL. Yes, it's not "voiced" but your character clearly mouths words as they respond, just like other characters do. So the WoL is not a "mute retard" unless the "…" option is always chosen.

Since you believe that the WoL is a "mute retard" I can only assume you have only chosen the "…" response. Or else you haven't played the game. Or you have played, but you're intentionally misrepresenting things.

All three conclusions lead to the same point;

You're retarded.

>>16641025

I always love how retards who defend the game like it's gives out blowjobs when you resub will always fall back to "IT'S THE BEST GAME ONLY SCRUBS WHO HAVEN'T PLAYED IT DARE INSULT THE PERFECT STORY OF 'you killed 90 trillion primals including one who fucked with time, now are you ready for the true challenge? 14 generic bears!?'

>>16641502

what, how's that deeper, all I've seen is some retard claiming that bad quests are actually good because they're good, and you're just a vile nasty troll who dare insult yoshi-san's vision if you insult them