/v/ - Video Games

I played the Destiny 1 demo. It was shit even for what it was.

i got it for free and stopped playing after the tutorial. total garbage.

>>16546901

and now its going to be a confusing mess. Now in the f2p "first light" edition you start in the first mission of destiny 1, then finish it at the current max gear level of destiny 2, you can go to any location in destiny 2 but anything but the d2 story everyone hates remains paywalled. So its refined to nothing but the gear skinnerbox.

Poorfags with addictive personalities will love it for everyone else i think its just going to be another issue for bioware and anthem which nobody can complain about.

Except biodrones of course but they aren't really people so who cares.

>>16546907

>d2 story paywalled

I think you get base game, curse of Osiris and Warmind stories and everything else for free, but you gotta pay for Foreskin and everything after.

>>16546887

>Aside from Norma Reedus' "and nobody is going to stop us this time!" comments at the game awards is this one of the most bridge burning fuck you's a developer has said about their former publisher?

Well they kind of lost all the prestige they had built up with Halo under their tenure with Activision. If there was anything they were going to blame it would be Activision.

>>16546945

They had every right to talk shit too, Todd was so extremely salty that he denied them bonuses based on a Metacritic score, because they were one point short if memory serves.

>>16546907

>Now in the f2p "first light" edition you start in the first mission of destiny 1, then finish it at the current max gear level of destiny 2, you can go to any location in destiny 2 but anything but the d2 story everyone hates remains paywalled

What? Why would they give you max level gear if they wanted to make a skinnerbox?

>>16546952

>What? Why would they give you max level gear if they wanted to make a skinnerbox?

So you can "like play with your friends dude, it's what the game is all about". There's still a skinnerbox aspect, to getting weapons with perfect perk rolls, getting all of the exotic weapons, getting the cosmetic stuff, etc..

>>16546952

max right now, theres also a new expansion where they rerskin every existing dead villain in black as the 'nightmare' faction.

yes 6th times the charm with this one trope for them.

I was really excited about destiny 1 when it was announced cuz I was a halofag in my teens. But then i finally got around to playing it in my mid 20s and I couldn't get more than like 2 hours in. It felt like some retarded cross between mass effect and halo.

>>16546958

Oh, so it's not rare gear, it's just level scaled like Guild Wars 2 type shit. I guess that's better than having bullet sponge enemies in FPSes, but they should just remove the levels entirely.

>>16547009

I was hoping they'd nail the space western aesthetic, like Star Wars from another angle. Then the first gameplay videos dropped and I immediately lost all interest.

>>16547059

>it's not rare gear

No, it in fact is rare gear. You want to collect the unique exotic armor with the specific perks you want, and you want to collect weapons with specific perks and stat rolls on them, all of that stuff rolls randomly from any piece of gear that drops. It's not like Warframe or some shit where you spend 45 minutes farming rat shit to put together a gun which is always the same. It's all about minmaxing. But the actual levels don't really matter that much, as long as you're around the recommended level, you're going to be able to do the content, and if you're overlevel, you only get a little damage boost and a little bit of damage resistance. The game is a lot more shooter than RPG, but I guess they want to add more RPG elements in the next expansion.

>>16547080

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2977058/1/Halo_Halos_in_Space

It's a classic.

>>16546952

>Todd was so extremely salty that he denied them bonuses based on a Metacritic score, because they were one point short if memory serves

That's not something todd likely would have personally had a part in. That 100% would have been part of the original contract that obsidian signed with zenimax. Bonuses based on metacritic score are standard in the AAA industry, the most common threshold being 85%, and this is always something that is agreed-upon before development starts. The publisher does this because an 85%+ score guarantees sales in AAA, and because it's a difficult milestone to reach, meaning there's a good chance that they won't have to pay it out. The developer agrees because the bonus itself may be close to matching the salaried wage of the entire devteam.

It's a gamble for both sides, and in this specific case, obsidian lost by a single point. Had they won by a single point, I don't think any of you niggers would be white knighting zenimax and saying that obsidian ripped them off because they only BARELY met the threshold.

>>16547095

JOHN STALVERN WAITED

>>16546907

Speaking of Anthem, I hardly hear anyone talking about. Decided to check out what was going on and they seem to have gotten rid of their own roadmap. Also Cataclysm came out and it's about as disappointing as you'd expect. Remember those lightning and storms they showed in a preview? Well, the actual event looks more like a tropical drizzle. You might be able to see a tree swaying and some waves rising, but it could hardly be called a cataclysm unless they're talking about the game itself.

>>16547098

The entire practice is predatory as fuck and stupid. You want to motivate your devs to do well, and getting 84% and not getting jack shit is extremely demotivating. The minimum you could do is "reward tiers" for different score thresholds but that's still kinda shitty. The way I see it, if Zenimax wanted Obsidian to continue making games for them, they might have compromised out of good will, but they don't, so they didn't.

>>16547110

Its the lawbreakers of the year.

>>16547110

I'm pretty sure Bioware went "Well, we're trying to make the game better, but if you're never satisfied, I guess we'll just stop" or had a similar bitchfit and pretty much gave up on that game.

>>16547098

Hey Todd. Your games suck ass.

>>16546921

If nothing else, I'll download the free version and see if I can play it on Linux via Wine+DXVK/Proton.

>>16547115

Lawbreakers was worse. This actually made $$$.

>>16547112

>The entire practice is predatory as fuck

Sure, just like (((usury))).

>You want to motivate your devs to do well, and getting 84% and not getting jack shit is extremely demotivating

They aren't "their" devs though. I guarantee BGS get preferential treatment, because BGS are their devs, but Obsidian is a private studio that does contract work. Well, they were a private studio at that point, now they're owned by Microsoft. There's no more loyalty there than there is from you for a plumber you hired.

>>16547154

Got the sequel? That shield part gets me every time.

well ackshually it's going to be """"""""""""""""""""""free"""""""""""""""""""""

as in you only get all the previous dlcs and maybe some areas from the new expansions but the rest of the stuff you gotta pony up, they just want normalfags to buy the new DLC because you can't get new players by telling them "hey goy you need atleast 200$ to play everything" also people that bought the game on release get BTFO'd

>>16547154

I don't get this kind of humor anymore.

So instead of setting up a proper f2p-p2p player market economy they lock already unpopular game behind freemium? I'm gonna enjoy watching it burn

The game is fucking shit, was always shit, will always be shit. The gun play was passable, that's all it had going for it

I dunno, I watched the "vidoc" and they didn't seriously dunk on activision or anything. The only real attack I heard was something to do with save sharing, which could be more of a sony thing than an activision thing.

>>16546887

Well it makes a ton of sense considering that entry into the game costs over 100 dollars. Might as well make the base game free and sell all the expansions for about 40 bucks

>>16546887

Where's the video?

>>16547362

[visibly confused mmorpg developers]

>>16546887

Sauce on the whole thing?

>consider playing Destiny 2

>ever

The game has no appeal to it though. It takes place in space fantasy but doesnt take advantage of it. Many mechanical possibilities you could implement and introduce but instead they stuck with the same generic shit you see in every other shooter. At least Warframe "tries" to be unique even though they have a shit ton of problems themselves.

>>16547487

Reread the thread. Take a second and think.

>>16547579

Shit, that's what happens when you're sleep deprived I guess.

My bad OP

Hopefully both companies implode on each other.

>>16546903

I got it for free and never even played it.

>>16546907

It's not just the base games. You get also the first two expansions. Then there's the paid part that includes Forsaken and the new expansion (I think). They are also ditching annual pass. Now you buy individual seasons (if you buy the game you get the current season for free).

>>16547431

What? Destiny lore and universe is far more interesting than Warframe's. The game oozes art, from the soundtrack to world design. All that Warframe has going for it is METAL FLESH and increasingly overdesigned ninjas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYfe9caNqfA

>>16547771

Price of the expansions

>>16547771

those are the new expansions that you need to buy the rest of the game is free, like i said they want to bait people into buying it because normalfags don't need to buy the old expansions+season pass anymore

>>16547757

I wish there was an archive of those forums. What's still up looks like it's had anything older than maybe 2013 deleted.

>>16547732

>They are also ditching annual pass. Now you buy individual seasons

oh boy, now I can buy the annual pass in 3-4 parts each which together will cost even more for content that is equally shit since bungie has none of manpower and resources activision provided anymore.

can't wait!

>The game oozes art, from the soundtrack to world design.

so you only played destiny 1?

>>16546887

>shitty buy to play warframe forced to go f2p

wow who could've seen this coming?

>>16548202

>No real skill trees, gear progression is cancer

Well, that's what they're trying to un-fuck with the latest expansion, but I'm not really gonna hope for anything until I see it.

>>16548550

Back to your skinnerbox

>>16546901

I played a bit of vanilla on my friends ps4

Good shooting and enemies but no content

Then i bought the taken king

Was one of the better games ive played and came out during a gaming drought

Rise of iron was meh and they nerfed everything

Vanilla d2 had a good campaign but was shit got it for free tho

Bought forsaken to play with my friend across the country

Was as good as the taken king

Honestly it really mightve been activision sabotaging them

Theyre still nigs

But the complete versions of these games are great

>>16548202

Compared to every other aaa game im willing to pay like 40 bucks a year to play halo mmo in space

The microtransactions are ignorable and it actually plays like a videogame

Its a good fuck around game

>>16550530

>the game is good when you buy all the DLC expansions and anual pass

ok gooldberg