/v/ - Video Games

Game companies in general are dropping hard at the market. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why.

>>16543464

They'll fully convert to a toystore to save themselves. I guarantee it. Especially with Xbox going full digital with the next console.

>>16543487

Full prices reproduction NES carts with scratched labels, you say? We'll get on it!

>>16543481

People said the same thing about Toys R' Us and analyst are now realizing the void that left in the toy market.

>>16543487

Haven't they already did that with Funko Pops? If there is a physical store left that hasn't been axed by online or digital stores, they'd have to lump many entertainment products together because I think the age of singular focused stores might be coming to an end.

>i paid 60 bucks for that game what do you mean youll give me 3 dollars for it

>i paid 20 bucks for that stock what do you mean youll give me 5 dollars for it

Needs to drop harder tbh

>>16543501

Didn't some fag see that and buy up toys R us and put it back on the menu?

>>16543464

firesale when?

It's not so much the move to digital only that's killing game stop as it is their reputation for selling you SHIT condition games, and creating artificial rarity by destroying physical games, boxes, and manuals if they can't sell them. Whatever's the case, the lack of physical media is just another reason to add to why i won't be buying a PS5 or Xbone too.

>>16543509

At this point i don't even know if i'd want to buy anything from them. Last time i bought clearance shit from them half the discs didn't work, one was a PAL game somehow, and another was in pieces.

>>16543521

It might be better to grab whatever is still kind of good in a liquidation sale before they go belly-up and just break and smash all the games like gamestop is known to do.

>>16543487

That's a terrible idea and would just sink the company faster.

Becoming a toy store won't save them, look at Toys R Us going bankrupt and closing/selling just about all their north America stores.

GameStop made most of their money from used game sales and those have been on serious decline the past five years.

Partly because its easier than ever to buy used games directly from other people online.

>>16543531

>Partly because its easier than ever to buy used games directly from other people online.

Oh yeah, and another thing is their used game prices are fucking SHIT, to the point where you have to go there during a sale just to get the same price for a game you'd get online.

>>16543531

That and they discontinued their best selling section of the used game market, PS2, despite their stores literally pleading for them not to because they'd go under without them.

I kind of wish they would go lik-sang and just import a bunch of cheap chinese parts and make up repair/refresh kits for consoles. The stores are there. They could hire somewhat competent repair people or send people to learn how to be authorized repair for current consoles. Some fixes they could do for you maybe. They would probably fuck that up some how though. It would be nice to walk in local and pick up a recap kit or replacement laser or cd/dvd drive.

Everything's digital anyways, it's called evolution and it happens. Nothing lasts forever

>>16543583

>the loss of physical copies that you the buyer actually own is evolution

Okay, kike.

>>16543464

BUY NOW BUY WNOW

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>>16543628

I think there's some behind the scenes fuckery going on to undervalue the market for some massive buyout or something. Perhaps not as a whole but I can see some big publisher getting bought out by Tencent in the next 2 or 3 years if things keep going in this direction.

>>16543583

The issue that is the most controversial that stains digital products is Steam.

Who changed the licenses they sold CD's are licenses and if you broke the license agreement you could be imprisoned and fined with that CD taken from you

A CD is a consumer license, Steam is a renters license.

Steam went and changed to a renter license aka a service not a distributor, the legal issue is that if you refused to accept those conditions you couldn't play your games which is illegal.

But they got away with it because government was ignoring the video game industry for years.

When you have a physical CD, that CD comes with conditions, for example having a movie and showing it at a festival would violate terms of the license unless you received permission from the company. But, other then that you can do what ever you want with the movie or video game

When its a renter's license there is no actual consumer license, you are receiving permission from the distributed to access the products of the creator/producer.

That's why steam is such shit, but as much as shit as GOG gets, they're selling you a consumer license.

>>16543516

Game stops have very little of value that is physical. Celebrate without worry.

>>16543624

Never forget sony execs in the EU bought their psp's from lik-sang right before fucking them.

>>16543698

Sure they do, and in fact - at least my local shop - they moved all their merch shit to the back corner so they could put the games out front in the open since apparently that's what people actually come to GameStop to buy, and not shitty "geek" merch.

Every few months they end up with a huge overstock of merch shit and start just giving the crap away with pre-orders or selling "grab bags" of mystery merch for like $10.

Now… they don't sell GOOD games, sure. But occasionally you can find a diamond in the rough in their 360/PS3 section.

I just bought Kingdom Hearts III for my nephew as a reward for saving up $300 to get an Xbox. Brand new for $30. Yeah, I know, but he's a kid and his mind is already made up. He's been desperate for an Xbox for a while now and Kingdom Hearts 3 was the first game poor little bastard was ever hyped for because Disney. It's going to be all I can do to get him to hold off for another week to take advantage of the inevitable E3 sales since he has camp next week and wants it before he leaves. But at the end of the day - it's his money. He worked for it, he saved it. I'll advise him as best I can, but I'm not going to tell him how to spend his own money.

It is fine that it dies, but it hasn't been a major player for some time so its death won't really hurt the companies who should also be dying

oh no wherever am I going to buy boxed steam keys now

>implying I actually buy steam keys

>>16543698

Have you been to one ever? They've always been both, but it's more like 15-20% merch, the rest is games. You don't need to lie to make a "point" you just need to have a point. Which you don't.

I wonder how much of it is everyone, even the most normal of normalfags, knowing their jewishness and hating them for it. Shit, it was like that 8 years ago when I was in high school.

>mfw I see a GameStop and a mom'n'pop game store operating next to each other, and the mom'n'pop has twice as many shoppers

This bodes ill. I may not like the store that much, but videogames should never make the leap to digital-only, because that will unlock the unholy kikery.

>>16543506

And look who the vice chairman of the new company is:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190217092548/https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/11/toys-r-us-executives-plot-retailers-comeback-with-tru-kids.html

>Its vice chairman will be Yehuda Shmidman, former CEO of Sequential Brands, the brand licensing company that runs labels like Martha Stewart Living and The Jessica Simpson Collection.

>>16543746

Where is that one anon going to go for his banking needs now?

haven't even walked into one for quite a while, kind of lost interest when they more or less stopped carrying pc games. I miss walking into a vidya store and just checking out all the video games giant fucking boxes it was like wall to wall all these games, to a child's eyes, infinite fun.

>>16543836

>Yehuda Shmidman

Oy vey.

>>16543586

>Implying that there can't be proper ownership of digital copies

Look like somebody doesn't know his rights

The only value i ever saw in gamestop was cheap used games, and now theyre used game prices are such shit it doesnt matter anymore. Youre only saving like 3 or 4 dollars to buy used. A new nintendo switch is 300, a used one is like 290, and i dont even get a discount on it for being a member. Fuck those kike assholes for killing eb games. I hope they rot in hell.

>>16543747

What the fuck are you talking about? Walk into a GameStop in many major city, at least 50% of the shit in there aren't games anymore.

>>16544185

This. At my local gamestop the walls are full of games, but all the other displays are things like Funko Pop's, Trading Cards, Comics, and even board games. It really changed from a game store to a hobbyist shop, but I doubt that will save them.

>>16543499

Who even buys that trash?

>>16544225

They'd rather throw away games than let you have them for a good price. I know a guy who used to work at gamestop and he told me they literally threw away all the PSP games new and used when they stopped stocking them in stores

>>16544225

If they sold Japanese PS1/PS2 games I'd actually go there. They'd probably mark them up to like 20 bucks though so maybe not.

>>16544233

This anon isn't making shit up. They also destroy retro games to keep the value of retro games high.They also destroy original boxes/packaging because they don't believe it has any value. Completely disregarding that the core audience for retro products are fucking collectors that want complete collections. The stories that have been shared from ex-gamestop employees is horrifying.

>>16544185

>>16544223

>My local gamestop (nyc btw) is more merchandise than games.

>Walk into a GameStop in many major city, at least 50% of the shit in there aren't games anymore.

>In the City

Seems to be the common thread. My store is the only one within 30 miles to the west, 50 miles to the East, and over a hundred miles either north or south. So they're servicing a much wider area and have to focus more on games, because if people are going to drive 20 minutes to get to a GameStop - they're not going there to buy a fucking Five Nights at Freddies bobblehead.

Aren't game stores still doing really well in the UK? Why don't they focus their efforts over there?

>>16544244

Europe has GAME, Gamestation and CExchange or something like that which already has the market cornered. Several years ago Gamestop made a move to buy GAME but it never happened. EB Games UK broke off from its parent company before Gamestop bought them and then slowly died out anyway.

>>16544244

lmao nobody uses gamestop here, they use CeX

they also sell tons of stupidly cheap ps2 games which is the main reason I go there

recently i bought mgs2, mgs3, gta3 and final fantasy 10 for less than £10 combined

>>16544256

here's a link if anybody is interested

https://uk.webuy.com/search?categoryIds=403&categoryName=playstation2-games

their most expensive ps2 game is simpsons hit & run, probably because it's popular

>>16544258

saved for later, thanks anon

>>16544225

Are there any major chains in America that sell retro games? I hate having to order them online.

>>16544276

I had the PS2 version of Half-Life, it was surprisingly playable for a console shooter and had some fun cheats like being able to play as one of those lightning alien fucks. Also higher poly counts in places and a couple of reflections.

>>16544282

>major chains

No. The absolute closest you could get to any kind of chain that may carry retro shit is Goodwill and it's hit or miss whether your local store will have anything at all.

>>16544258

>all those PS2 games being sold for the equivalent of less than 6 dollars

>we could have had something like this in America if game store CEOs were stupid kikes

OK, NOW I'M FUCKING MAD

>>16544287

God, this is a huge market that everybody is ignoring. I'm glad GameShit are going down.

>>16544287

Yeah what's the deal with that? Does Goodwill randomly move all the games to a different store? I usually have to check a couple stores to find used PS2 games because suddenly they don't have any games anymore.>>16544287

>>16544296

>we could have had something like this

It's called ebay.

>>16544276

>>16544296

CeX aren't stupid though, they do sell rare/really popular retro games at prices you'd expect

symphony of the night is almost £200

>>16544301

Redditards regularly troll goodwills to pick up absolutely anything and everything game related for them sweet upboats. Others do it so they can resell it on ebay because Goodwill under charges on everything so you can almost always turn a profit. You can also order things from their website but you will end up paying ebay prices because it's all auction style so it defeats the point.

>>16544296

Used old games are a godsend for comic book shops now, at least in my area. Comic sales have tanked and a lot of these store have to keep up minimum orders on shit books if they don't want to get blackballed by the publisher on those titles that do still sell - so they're forced to eat shit and pay for it out of their profits if they want to stay in business. They can get old games super cheap, and between the retro resurgence, collectors, and emulation - they're making enough to keep their doors open.

>>16544301

>>16544287

(((Volunteers))) are allowed to take just about whatever they want from the back room before it hits the shelf, since it was free anyways. So when Stacey comes by to drop off all those icky things Timmy didn't need after he heads to college Moishe, Tyrone and Pedro get free reign and it rarely reaches store shelves. Hence why you almost never see super rare games or toys on shelves. As games get more stupid expensive, they grab them to try to get a quick buck.

Also explains why in all my years going there I've not seen a single Transformer or TMNT figure, which should be statistically impossible

>>16544287

I have one like right around the corner from my house but I've never been inside. I didn't know they had games.

>>16544282

It's pretty much pointless to buy retro games unless you're a huge collectorfag. The hobby has been ruined by redditors that just collect the games but never play them. You're better off just buying the system and then getting a flash cart or modding the system to play games from a usb.

>>16544326

Ever seen that famous image of "Snow White and the 7 Clever Boys"? They're the same devs of this.

It's extremely rare. It's probably the rarest PS1 game that actually saw a commercial release. The insane cost comes from collectors looking to complete their collection. The PS1 has nowhere near as many ultra-rare games as the NES or SNES does, so the really rare ones stick out all the more because of it.

>>16544340

This can be blamed on game stores, ultimately. Most of them never bothered to stock old games so the prices became controlled by online scalpers.

Judging by what the Britanon ITT is saying, that's not a problem in Europe because their stores actually sell old games at set prices. This means people have no reason to buy from the scalpers.

>>16543516

/thread

>>16544216

Children. And people who want to show off "Nerd cred", or whatever you want to call it. Think those hipster vidya Jewtubers who take videos of themselves with merch decorating the background.

>>16543635

Why would Tencent buy GameStop when they have the Epic Games Store and mobile markets?

>>16544276

>Jesus Christ, Britanons. Do games rain from the sky over there?

All the local games and a lot of shit dumb eurofags bring with them when they come over. PC games are even better all at 50p each, maybe £1-2 if it's a 'big name' game like Half Life. Great if you want to pick up giant amounts of old physical PC games and you often get obscure slavshit.

>>16544313

Their pricing is almost exactly what you see on ebay. That does mean for stuff with no market like old PC shit you get their standard price of fucking nothing but don't go in expecting amazing deals on known games. They also used to do dodgy shit like print new covers for games with ruined ones, you can see the noticably lower resolution but they always stuck a disclaimer on the back of the reprint so if you check for that you're good. From what I've seen they abandoned that anyway when people started bitching.

>>16543721

>Game Crazy

I can still remember the days of being able to buy SNES games for $15-20 or less. I also remember playing Melee on the demo kiosk they had set up while my parents were looking for movies to rent. Sometimes I miss being a kid, I think everyone here does.

>>16544276

Deus Ex is also on PS2

>>16543583

Everything digital being pirated without anyone paying money to any company? Digital pirated copies that anyone will own and mass share without any permission from anyone or any company? Yes, it is the natural evolution. It is the best case scenario, and it is inevitable. There is nothing that anyone can do about it.

>nothing lasts forever

Even more reason to never pay for any of it then.

>>16543721

I still find it amusing when picking up a game that still has a GameCrazy sticker on the case. They come off with absolutely zero hassle, every time it's happened, instead of gunking the case (or worse, label or cover) up like Gamestop stickers do.

Also it took about ten years for anyone to actually buy the corner shop where the local Gamecrazy was. It's like they considered it cursed.

>>16544443

Did they even get much business, or be noticable from the street? The old Play'n'trade around where I live, in addition to some other problems that led to their closure (distribution, namely), was not allowed any sort of roadside advertising by ruling of the owner of the shopping complex, and the building angle in such a way you would only ever see them going east.

>>16543499

Pretty much any media store seems to act like they're required by law to have shelves full of funko pop at this point. Not that it excuses it or anything.

>>16544632

I'd honestly hoped that no one actually bought that shit, since the shelves for them at the multimedia places where I'm at never seem to have any noticeable holes in them, so to speak. Was talking with someone I know some states away about it though, and they said if that's what it looks like, they must be replacing whatever gets bought extremely quickly, because for whatever reason, soulless template trash like that is apparently quite popular amongst the normalfag masses, be it that they actually like how they look, or simply so they can signal their interests to others. I mean, I could maybe understand if it was a case where it's literally the only "extra" beyond the original material that a character might get, but if it's popular enough for funko, it's probably got other merchandise already. Possibly of a more tasteful sort, even. Hopefully these faggots tire of seeing them as well and they go the way of beanie babies (TY seems to be trying to make a come back with those of late though), but it's disgusting how much material and money is wasted on producing such shit to begin with.

At the very least, the best actually vidya focused store I know of around these parts only has a few preowned ones people have apparently traded in, and also has figmas and nendos and such in one of the display cases, so it kind of evens out, at least there.

The gamestops in my area almost always treated me like a king, and the very few times I've had incidences, the problems were dealt with promptly. I'm a little sad this is happening because online retailers are a shit replacement for them by far.

Plus their prices often beat out ebay (and the others aren't even close) for a lot of the games I look for

The trick is to never give anything to them. They'll make much more off your trade-ins and shit generally than your actual purchases.

The main thing I don't like is that they supposedly destroy cases and shit for games or something.

>>16544088 (HH)

That's just a cohencidence.

>>16544289

I recall someone ripped the Decay files and ported it to PC.

>>16544358

>>16544326

Holy shit, what a train wreck.

>>16544313

Symphony of the Night has also been on the rise in NA, reaching $60-100 locally where I am (formerly about $25 prior), both in light of Bloodstained and despite having a Greatest Hits print. I've heard PAL at least has had the excuse of it being shortprinted there, but I wouldn't call it a game worth eighty bong bucks, let alone two hundred.

>>16544358

>It's extremely rare. It's probably the rarest PS1 game that actually saw a commercial release. The insane cost comes from collectors looking to complete their collection.

Do some people have nothing better to do than buy shovelware simply because it's rare or they have holes in their shelf shelves room house? I'm aware the answer is apparently yes, considering what copies of one yearly sports title on the Gamecube (forget which exactly) somehow manages $80+ prices simply because the print for the system got dropped rather quickly. Really, the whole "full set" mentality, at least in regards to a physical, non-archival format, is a fucking stupid endeavor. There comes a point where such ceases to be impressive.

>>16544706

>The gamestops in my area almost always treated me like a king

What, were you their only customer or something? Regardless, they're a shit tier chain and personally a last resort when I can't find a game (one they actually have a chance of still stocking) elsewhere, and the only thing I'll give them credit for is that their website keeps track of which stores near your town are reporting having a copy of something. Actual experiences with the average employee haven't been too bad, but its their policies that make them bottom rung for me.

I'm not especially happy that as a company they've stuck around so long, but on the other hand they've been a vector for a number of generations to get even niche games into the local market (assuming someone cares to even preorder them), and I'm not going to be particularly thrilled if them going under results in that much more reason for publishers just go further into the digital only sphere. I mean, it's certainly not as if there aren't other places for physical copies to ship to, but Walmart, Target, and Best Buy (especially the latter two these days) have much less room to devote to such as a focus, and Gamestop's done their best to kill off and cannibalize their immediate competition that for some town, they're the only game focused places in town. Certainly what they did where I live, but I'm lucky that gridlock means that I can easily get to surrounding towns if I want to buy something.

>>16544358

>>16544326

Here is a genius business idea: develop crappy game on shoestring budget, print a few copies (because who the fuck is going to buy it?), hoard all the unsold copies for 20 years, then sell them off for insane prices to collectorfags.

>>16544242

>Seems to be the common thread.

Nope. I live in a small-ish town in bumfuck nowhere are i swear to god, at least 3/4th of the local store was covered in fucking pokemon cards and funkpops when i when in.

>>16544897

Who's Ed Sheeran?

>>16544918

>Who’s Ed Sheeran?

Flavor of the month pop singer #5384

>>16544284

>>16544289

It also has M+KB support, think the Dreamcast port does too. Pretty much one of the only times Gear box didn't fuck something up.

>>16544301

>Does Goodwill randomly move all the games to a different store?

Yes. These days all the good video games get sent to their shitty ebay clone shopgoodwill, and trust me, you will not find a good deal there.

>>16544897

Because the average western fan of something seems to expect low effort shit, and therefore is fine with low effort shit. Wouldn't shock me if some of those fags think anything like what Japan puts out as figures would be too weird simply due to the amount of detail involved.

I remember a thread a while back about the faggots apparently having the gall to considered themselves a persecuted group for their shit taste in merchandise.

>>16544301

Some years back, Goodwill opened a media and electronics branch on the east coast. Saw some pictures of it after it had been established, and from the looks of things they were charging online prices for anything worth a damn. Just saying that could also be a factor if they're just funneling them off to specific branches.

>>16544924

You will not find good quality from an online Goodwill vendor either. Once ordered a copy of Shadow Hearts: Covenant off one of their Amazon vendors since it was $15. Asked if it was complete and in good shape and the seller just dodged the questions. Got it anyhow on the off chance it was good, and everything but the discs were in tatters (the discs actually being not just workable, but in very good shape). Left a shitty review and got a replacement case, cover, and manual from ebay. Overall still spent under the average price for the game, but it was still a learning experience. Fuck Goodwill.

Good. Gamestop deserves nothing but death.

Who actually buys games from game stores? honestly it befuddles me.

Here in Bongland GAME already went bankrupt but then Gamestop bought them out and they only survived the last decade by 50% of shelf space being amiibos, skylanders and disney infinity.

But now that bubbles crashed and there are whole shelves with like a box of Magic cards or a 6 can of red bull on and nothing else. Even the shelves of funko pops are mostly, i shit you not, preowned funko pops. Thats their majority trade.

They have a tiny shelf of all the new releases and the rest of the store is about a shelf for preowned games of each system. Thats it.

The employees all look like people turned away from pawn shops like cash generators for looking groadier than the clientele. Gone are the days of luring in neckbeards with busty scene girls in a very tight polo shirt or a clean cut gavin to tell old ladies what their kids need for the 'best experience'.

I pick up my phone, go to amazon or any other site depending on whats cheapest/most reliable and hit 'buy' and it shows up on the day of release at my door. If i'm even lazier i buy something digitally now and then if i know its something i'll be playing for a long time but dont care enough to have it in my physical collection. Theres no reason i'd go to one of those desperate, vampiric stores anymore. Who does?

>>16544989

The only times i ever shopped at gamestop was either when they had a clearance sale, or the occasional time i could find certain niche games for cheap(i.e. Solatorobo with CD for 30 bucks, Ys Oath of felghana complete for 10, Drill Dozer for 8 bucks)

Their used game prices suck ass and there is nothing this generation that aged well unless it was a remake or port from the prior generation.

>>16544225

They sell retro games online. You can buy the legend of zelda a link to the past for about $22. Quality of the shell and sticker not guarantied

>>16543698

>Have you been to one recently? They're like 50% "gamer/nerd culture" merch, gamestop doesn't sell games anymore.

The same happened to Blockbuster Videos, although the average /v/irgin can't even remember them.

>>16543836

>Yehuda

Fuck me, it's the kike equivalent of Christian! Never seen before, it sounds like a blasphemous insult.

>>16545014

>The same happened to Blockbuster Videos, although the average /v/irgin can't even remember them.

They're not even comparable. Think the most nerd shit any blockbuster i saw had, aside from video games, was some obscure trading cards(anyone here remember Zatch Bell TCG?)

>>16543747

> but it's more like 15-20% merch, the rest is games.

Strongly disagree, my local store is more like a 50/50 split

>>16544989

>Who actually buys games from game stores?

I do on occasion, just not usually at Fucking Gamestop. There's a small local chain in the surrounding towns that is all around better. They just don't tend to get games new at launch. And while inventory is hit or miss, multimedia places here can have stupid good prices from time to time. Only ever use Gamestop when I can't find a game anywhere else here for quite a while, like Pandora's Tower. I don't really have a good means to buy online at present, but even then, that one was apt to be more than $20 online by that point, even before shipping.

>>16545008

>Solatorobo with CD for 30 bucks

>Not having gotten it for $15 "new" in the bargain bin back in 2012 or so.

That was simultaneously both a good day and a bad experience with the staff there (I reckon the cashier was another anon who couldn't keep his attempts at console war shitposting to the internet). What's disgusting though is they can ask $50 cart only for it now and still be able to say they're cheaper than the competition by a good $20 or so.

>>16544956

They still have DS games, just that they've all been gutted down to cart only, ask increasingly high prices on any game that are worthwhile, and what's left is increasingly shovelware. What I find kind of odd though is that their 3DS section, whilst still somewhat cased, is quite barren, and while maybe my sample size is rather limited since I rarely bother with the place, I recall it always having been a lot smaller than their shelves worth of DS games back when its predacessor was current.

>>16544276

>Do games rain from the sky over there?

yes and no, loads of people sell their second hand games for didrt cheap but its always the same popular shit like san andreas, and the pricing for games is crazy, i seen resident evil 2 for PC going for £50, with all the other games being £1 or less, they're also doing away with all the old PS2/xbox/GC shit in favour of PS3/WII/360 shit and the new PS4/xbone stuff thats just the same price as any other store but with the smell of BO, piss and weed

>>16545020

You forget the food, anon

>>16545038

show us

>>16544989

back when I was living in bongistan I'd get new shit for 30 pound after a few days online and pick up used stuff when I'm running some errands anyway (cause it would've been cheaper than ordering it online + shipping and I can see the condition). remember picking up the bioshock 1 CE for 15 bucks at CEX new and other stuff.

game ways always expensive, gamestation was ok with slightly better stuff (like more ps2 games, game only had a some shovelware games), cex was kind of a dump but simply had the best prices - and they didn't try to push some shit on me every time I was in there.

kinda miss buying vidya in the uk.

>>16545106

sauce? Need to download as much porn as possible before the goverment makes me get a loicense for it in 9 days

>>16544454

>Gamestop

>big publisher

>>16545198

Say "aahhh"

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2637417

>>16544535

I remember going with my family to the media rental store down the street to pick a game and movie for the weekend while we waited for our pizza to finish next door.

I miss that store

I also miss my family

>>16543464

Something better will crop up in it's place. There's a reason why Gamestop was around so long and people will start to notice whatever hole it leaves in the market needs to be filled. Let's just hope it's successor doesn't just repeat all of it's mistakes

>>16544713

Yeah, decay is either a stand alone mod or someone put it sven coop, it’s def on pc now

>>16545320

But I hate americans and I dont live in England.

I'd rather take back rhodesia than move the JewSA

>>16543499

That's the story for one of their subsidiaries EB Games. I mean the smaller ones are generally about games, but if they're larger, expect to see hordes of shitty gaming merchandise, sometimes with its own floor space.

>blockbuster start to fail

<kikeflix and the lot pops up

>gamestop start to fail

<at the same time games streaming shows up

mmmmmm

>>16545213

Would Kara even have a vagina? She's a maid, not sexbot.

For those who've never played D:BH, sexbots are canon. You even go to a robot brothel at one point.

>>16543636

>licenses

Oh, nobody cares about those anon.

>cds are licenses and if you break them you can go to jail

If the CD is ripped then it is irrelevant. And only countries with (((anti piracy laws))) have imprisoned people over it.

Piracy has fixed so many issues.

>>16545465

>They really need to find a way to make physical copies on demand.

Console games are almost always made in such a way that there's some part of their manufacturing that requires specialist machinery so it's only profitable to do it in massive amounts to pay off the cost of that machinery. Like that disc wobble.

>>16545320

>first picture

Everybody knows that the military units with the best performance are those who are constantly set upon each other, don't trust anyone they are assigned with, and repeatedly tattle on each other. Who am I kidding, their army only exists to maintain the government's status against their own people.

>>16545347

It is cuck

>local retro game store just announces one day that they're closing for good

>no explanation why, but it's probably related to the retro gayming fad dying out

>they'd host fun events like trivia, smash, and mariokart/party tournaments, but only announce them on their facebook lterally two or three days prior, so nobody would get the word in time and it's usually just be me, the store owner and his kids, and maybe one other guy

it's a shame, the owner was a pretty nice guy (looked like David Draiman, piercings and all) but he would take any relatively expensive game that came through his shop and just throw it on his eBay page before any actual customers got a chance to see it (learned about this from a GameStop employee of all people who was trying to sell Mario Party 6 for $80, hue). He helped sponsor a local game convention a couple years back that did really well, only convention I've been to in over a decade and it was well worth it.

>>16545421

>Implying you can't pay for upgrades for your personal use bot

>Implying maidbots can't be sexbots too

>>16545465

>no explanation why, but it's probably related to the retro gayming fad dying out

>but he would take any relatively expensive game that came through his shop and just throw it on his eBay page before any actual customers got a chance to see it

>All of the good stuff was being sold for top dollar away from his store

>nobody would get the word in time and it's usually just be me, the store owner and his kids, and maybe one other guy

Seems more like his store closed because nobody wanted to be there, or had any reason to go for that matter.

>>16546088

European leaders are going all-in with the assumption that the populace is sufficiently disarmed and pacified that any insurgency can be curbed with air superiority and a haphazard group tranny bashi-bazouk loyal only to a paycheck if even that. Worst part is that they might not be wrong.

>>16545320

>People who love their country are now "xtreme" and are not wanted in the MILITARY

Do those retards even have much of a military at this point, or do they all depend from the EU.

>>16545347

Lmao there are openly Neo-Nazi army units in the US. Holding contrary opinions means a court marshal for you, faggots.

>>16546501

No, there are brainwashed FBI good goys pretending to be openly Neo-Nazi army units in the US. Learn the difference, it may save your life.

>>16545320

>xrw

What kinds of white male would risk their life for this nu-Britain?

>>16546333

>Worst part is that they might not be wrong.

From the footage I have seen if even one bong finds his balls and sharpens a length of steel he could hold the entire fucking British police force hostage.

>>16546518

>caring about physical

>not just pirating always

>even entertaining the idea of purchasing a game

Top cuck

>>16545871

Now that is impressive!

>>16546535

>>16546559

I really don't want to have this long conversation, but how do you think game companies will make money to make more games if everyone pirated games? honestly,

I am not a sucker for micro transactions and tricks but I mean the idea of paying for the game and thats it, not any DLC or season pass, i really want an answer to the first question.

>>16546535

>>16546518

You're both either incredibly retarded or this is some powerful bait.

>>16544752

>were you their only customer or something

Nope. Hell I think at most I was above-average in terms of purchases but that's about it.

Which policies are you referring to?

And yes, its really unfortunate that every other retailer has basically thrown gaming under the bus. I managed to take advantage of Best Buy's GCU before they discontinued it, and thanks to their price matches with places like Gamestop I was able to get shit like sealed launch editions of Utawarerumono for 20 bucks and things like that

Its sad to see their selections shrinking with each day. Walmart was probably one of the worst since they used to carry both nice options and cheap options for PC such as a cheap AoE2 jewel case with the gold editions (basically included age of kings, conquerors, and AoE 1) for 10 bucks or less. I remember a looong time ago they used to have a reasonably robust selection. Hell, every retailer did. Now its all jokes compared to what they used to be.

Gamestop unfortunately did cannibalize smaller game stores and it was scummy of them. Now we're stuck with them though, and I don't have faith that whatever comes after will be better at this point since literally everywhere has gotten worse as well. Gamestop's own selections are shrinking too, and fuck their "collectible" shit and funko pops and whatever.

I'll still say this though, with what I've personally experienced with them, I was able to build a respectable Vita collection in large part because of them, and it was late in the Vita's life cycle when I first got my Vita. It was similar for my 3DS as well.

>>16546583

I think it’s not my fucking problem how they make money.

>>16546501

Tfw no open neo nazi army units patrolling the suburbs of long island and have to see armies of illegal mexicans looking for work and homeless junkies on the highway every work day

>>16546668

>what if video games just dropped mass production

Good

>>16546583

If everyone downloaded a copy it it would be down to if the game is good or not. If it's good, people would feel like buying it. If it's bad, then they'll just stop playing it.

Who ever downloaded a game, played it, disliked it, but kept playing it? Only those that put money in first feel compelled to "get their money's worth" out of a bad game.

>>16546695

you know what, I can understand this and I get it now. I would just hate to see a video game crash, i do dislike soulless cash grab games made by giant corporations, but some games that come out nowadays are alright, just by comparison seeing what humans like us can make which are shitty little indie walking sim games. i would much rather not let it be up to a few dudes making games that fucking suck.

some gold has came out of that though

>>16545320

Thanks for derailing the thread.

>>16546518

>physical games

I don't really want to go back to the bad old days of not being able to buy the games I want because EB Games decided it wasn't worth stocking niche PC games.

>>16546583

>how do you think game companies will make money to make more games if everyone pirated games?

Not them, but I'll give you the same answer I always give people who ask.

>A download service similar to a romsite, but for a flat fee and official. the idea is basically Spotify Premium, but without its retarded copy protection (that's easy to defeat anyway)

<would kill incentives for romsites (stable, fast download from official servers that won't become unavailable without notice, you're 'supporting the devs')

<get rid of storage constraints (just transfer games to/from another HDD)

if you HAVE to add jewry, you can require an account to 'activate' games and check server-side that the account has previously 'acquired' it from the store or has an active subscription, limit an account's active consoles and/or prevent accounts from using a game simultaneously on more than X consoles. when the service ends account checks are disabled and any game works. for further jewing add captchas to prevent automatization and download caps

>services (actual services, not (((SaaSS))) garbage) around the product

>goods that are actually excludable and rivalrous (like merchandise and goodies. hell, physical copies are considered goodies these days)

>patronage (works better for other mediums though)

>donations

>>16546885

>flat fee

I meant flat monthly fee obviously, not one-time

>>16546886

>You mean the Pre-Internet days before you could order niche shit directly from Japan. Those days aren't coming back, regardless of whether or not Physical media sticks around or if it's all replaced by digital.

Exactly. At this point the only real deterrents to physical games now is the forced scarcity (think Limited Run) that comes with the move to digital and/or impatience.

>>16545871

>the company apparently lied about profit

>investors weren't happy

Imagine waking up and seeing that this has happened to your money.

>>16547021

Not at all, especially now that they're trying to move shit into the cloud.

>>16545871

>graph's bottom is not zero

How I hate this misleading shit.

>>16547122

Nigger there is no stock that’d ever hit 0.

>>16547125

But that's how a graph is supposed to work.

>>16547128

No it’s not. You use axes that are the most informative to the viewer. A day trader will never expect a 0 at the bottom, and using a 0 end point will just waste space as you’ll never hit it.

>>16547128

You get delisted if you're consistently under a certain amount, 5 bucks i think.

You could see the writing on the wall as far back as a decade. The internet killed them in the exact same way it killed Blockbuster.

>>16546789

Online orders directly to the publisheres/devs and shipping exists. And middleman online stores that sell physical copies.

Kinda depressing tbh

That was my first job during highschool

This guy has been making videos for the past few weeks about his time as a manager there for 11 years. Unsurprisingly, it was very similar to Machinima. Everyone was getting cucked hard for years and constantly getting screamed at, and being the top rated in the company just meant you drew more unwanted attention from the suits. The straw that broke the camels back (according to this) was when the managers got their pay slashed. It caused everyone with experience turning a profit to leave, and everyone who filled their place got overwhelmed at left.

It's the typical corporate shit you see everywhere in games. The CEO left and they got the CEO for a restaurant chain or something to take over because, as far as the suits are concerned, it's still retail and the same thing. All that's left is retarded executives with no experience, store managers with no experience and massive loopholes in their trading system allowing people to basically suck money from the company.

Gamestop is kill.

>>16546886

>You mean the Pre-Internet days before you could order niche shit directly from a country that makes crappy knockoffs of Western games and whose few original games are all dogshit.

Wow, we sure are missing out.

>>16547240

I feel ya.

I remember when EQ first came out. Buy the game, then pay a monthly fee? Don't do it folks! It will only encourage more of this shit! It sold well, MMORPGS weren't the only game to move to a pay-to-play monthly fee model. Still keep seeing threads of people crying when their favorite online-only pay-to-play game shuts down, apparently they still haven't figured out this is the fate of EVERY ONE OF THESE GAMES.

I remember when Steam came out. You don't actually get a physical copy to resell if you choose, and have to put up with some program running in the background of every game since you need it running to play? Don't do it, it will just encourage more of this shit! Everyone hopped on it because "DUDE CHEAP GAMES, I DON'T EVEN NEED TO CHANGE CDS BECAUSE I'M THAT FUCKING LAZY!!!" Fast forward to 2010 onwards when people are complaining about getting banned and having their entire game libraries taken away from them. Yet I still see people talking about online services like Steam as a GOOD thing. Yeah, having no rights and not being able to ever resell any of the shit you buy, along with being able to have it taken away from you at any given time is totally worth the games being cheap. Don't give me that "Muh large library to choose from" BS either, this is the fucking internet age, there is literally NO barriers from you getting any game you want. It's not like you are stuck walking to the only walmart in town that sells videogames.

I get fucking tired of being right.

>>16547222

Its misleading if you are unable to properly read a graph. I mean what do you think

"-3.05 (39.53%)" means ?

>>16547356

I will never get the whole

>This guy was CEO at a random company so he will do a great job being CEO of a company dealing with shit he knows absolutely nothing about.

I mean thats just asking for a disaster.

EAT SHIT GAMESTOP

>>16547356

>massive loopholes in their trading system allowing people to basically suck money from the company.

I want more info on this without having to sit through an hour of videos.

>>16547462

How about 21 minutes? I honestly find the levels of retardation amusing. People who are dumb enough to straight up admit they stole the games they're selling pull this shit off. I think one of the easy legal ones, is to just buy a bunch of new but broken games on ebay then sell them to gamestop, since gamestop doesn't check their disks. Considering they're hiring CEOs from fucking fast food companies I doubt this has been rectified yet.

>>16547616

Someone please post the version of the first image with the titles and names included.

>>16544216

vermin

Good riddance. Fuck gamecuck.

>>16543516

>mourning a company that destroys unsold game copies and has gimmicks for every pre-ordering of a game

What is there to mourn about? Gamestop dying won't be a heavy loss.

>>16547889

What the fuck brought them back up that much around January?

>>16547923

Second point was meant for >>16545465.

>>16547923

I still feel fortunate that I bought a copy of Xenoblade when it first came out and didn't have to pay the shitty scalper prices.I still haven't played it.

>>16547928

Buyout rumors

https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/345930/gamestop-gme-stock-rallies-more-than-17-on-buyout-hearsays

>>16547941

I got my copy about a month after it released due to having to wait on some money to come in. Had to buy from Gamestop since it was exclusive to them in the first place, as if NoA having no faith in a game they didn't even want to bring over selling adequately through any other retailer, and nowhere else I knew of had any preowned yet at that point. Difference being $5 at the time between preowned and new I opted for new (the employee of course kept pushing for preowned since Gamestop gets all the money on those), and the manual still wound up with shipping tears in it, because they just repurposed those multi-disc cases for it, minus the actual second disc flap.

>I still haven't played it.

I'd say I got my $50 of enjoyment from it though; not sure I'd be able to say the same if I paid $90, let alone the $120 or $200 that preowned and new copies respectively started seeing shortly there after until the reprint. At the same time though, it's not for everyone, especially if you don't like MMO-esque ability hot bars, cooldowns, and positioning focus in your JRPGs. Most of the sidequests suck and you can ignore them, but do the one for the portable gem furnace and one for town building.

>>16547120

>>16547643

>Not at all

But he's right. ISOs and ROMs are better than an aging disc or cartridge. (((Digital storefronts))), on the other hand…

>>16547356

>jewry and greed causes downfall of a business

color me impressed.

>>16548277

>Roms and isos

Well if we're talking about that, then there's really no point, since it only exists because of Physical media, and at the moment is still primarily used with shit like Flash carts and rewritable discs(physical media)

>>16547450

Friendly reminder the current, or maybe former, lead of marketing at Nintendo of America is the same guy who made the "Do the Dew" commercials.

>>16544632

While their saturation is annoying their total lack of function and being complete shit are the greatest offences they generate.

>>16544276

Keep in mind that PAL versions of older games are likely undesirable due to 50hz fuckery, thus driving the price down.

>>16544665

>Hopefully these faggots tire of seeing them as well and they go the way of beanie babies (TY seems to be trying to make a come back with those of late though)

Man, Beanie Babies went to shit so long ago, every time I see one of the new ones randomly at a super market or something it kind of stuns me as I'm reminded how ugly and generic their designs became after a few years. The originals were all so cute.

>>16546088

>>16545320

There is still no source to that XRW shit.

Some people hate gamestop for being jews but at least they sold used and physical copies of games.

>>16547846

It's 40 percent drop over a few days. That's more impactful and significant for investors than if it happened over a year, brainlet.

>>16548614

Doesn't that just mean their investors are subhuman cattle?

>>16548615

No, they reacted to news of the company lying about profits. Double digit changes in stock prices aren't uncommon after yearly or quarterly reports, if the company is doing far better or worse than expected.

>>16548552

Yeah, I'll admit to having been into the original beanie baby stuff when I was little (mom liked them as well), but there's this real lack of charm to the next generation from when I've seen them at super markets and other places. I haven't bothered to check, but I have to question if they even had a poem in the tags anymore. Probably not if you ask me, since that would require effort.

>>16548618

Isn't the timing convenient for the quarter though? That doesn't come off as slightly suspicious to you?

>>16544282

Look it up in your local area yourself. There's one 10 miles away from me that sells retro games (everything from PS2/original Xbox/Gamecube and down, basically). Not all of what they sell is in the store, some in a warehouse. They have a wall of NES and SNES games that are cheap but also pretty shit. Like 1-5 dollars for one of those. Useful for testing an old SNES (or for use as donor carts). All the good shit's locked up. No reproduction carts, of course. That's illegal.

>>16543731

Passing on your experience to the next generation is literally why you don't die after you fuck something. Don't let your knowledge go to waste and have him waste his money. Get him to buy KH3 and then pick him up a good game to go with it (on your dime if you must) from the budget range. There has to be some xbone $20 classics range right?

>>16546674

>not taking a train and being drunk all the time not just at night

what are you a faggot

>>16544282

Just small local ones (there's a chain here with maybe four shops, all in state), assuming they weren't independent to start with. Prices obviously vary depending on where you look, and most retro focused stores still open are more in it for the "if it's old, it's worth gold" aspect than actual interest in getting people fun games at a half decent price.

>>16548654

>No reproduction carts, of course. That's illegal.

Tell that to a few of the worse local stores here. They sell reproduction carts, admittedly for fan-translated games we never got here, but they're still $50 per cart.

>>16544665

There are companies who make a living off of just selling funko pops. If you ever go to a comic book convention expect nothing but funko pops

>>16547356

Radioshack, Toys R Us, and Blockbuster were all the same. One day executives decide they can treat their managers like they treat cashiers, then wind up finding themselves with messy stores, stolen inventory, and customers being actually repelled. It only goes one way and by the time the people who made the decision realize their mistake, investors are breathing down their backs demanding to know where their money is and why sales are falling.

The service industry comparison is apt because over there managers are more readily tradeable because it's employees that really make things work. But even then it's just a slide down if there's no reason to stay.

>>16545142

PS4/Xbone pushed the price of games all up 10 quid and then the PC followed shortly after. Now Ubisoft games have added an extra 10 on top. These days thanks to digital releases games aren't even a bit cheaper on PC any more.

>>16543487

They should pivot to /tg/. It would be a total shift of audience but they didn't pivot towards digital distribution when they had the chance and this would allow them to utilize their retail outlets.

>>16548709

/tg/ is dying too. Unless you're selling Munchkin and Settlers of catan to normal fags you have no market. Social justice weenies have trashed all the major games and computer games have knee capped people getting involved.

/tg/ media is going to be dead within a decade or two. They will just sell over priced display pieces until 3D printing eats that market as well.

>>16548702

I have never been to a comic convention, so I wouldn't know. Sounds believable though.

>>16548720

I went to a local one with maybe 30 stands. I saw 1 comic book stool, 1 cheap chinese replica nerd shit store (think zelda shields) and then a wall of funko pops.

>>16548714

I don't think so, new games keep coming out all the time and you underestimate how many people appreciate a well designed and aesthetic rulebook, myself included. The thing about /tg/ is that you can't just crash someone else's game because they'd have to invite you to it first. Sure, people can screech online about representation, but the other key difference is that the barrier to entry for making /tg/ is extremely low compared to, say, video games. In fact I took video game design courses in college and one of the most common techniques for making a proof of concept was to make your game a board game first. So even if every single major publisher goes poz, and right now it's honestly not that bad – D&D was shit anyway and White Wolf being fags doesn't surprise me, they always had the fag emo teen crowd – other games will appear to take their place. All you need is one talented artist and one talented writer.

>>16548709

They dipped their toes into digital distribution, I think. They owned GameFly at one point, didn't they? And it bought out Direct2Drive. Then Direct2Drive became its own thing again later, and GameFly's dead.

>>16548732

CEOs are retards because the investors want someone who's more easily manipulated. Notice how business schools, or really any school at all now at this point, never require any hands on experience. It's just theoretical horseshit written by people who've never actually done anything.

>>16548733

You can crash other people's game. GW are in the process of doing it now, but I'm not going to write a huge post on why edition changes kill older game releases (people drop out tl;dr).

>It's not that bad

Do you not pay attention? The entire market is pozzed, you can't find a single one which isn't pushing stronk womyn and niggers at this point.

>/tg/ market is strong because I buy a book once a year

Isn't the /tg/ market. Buying (or pirating mostly) books isn't building up the userbase needed to support games stores and clubs, which are the inlet into the hobby.

>I went to game design college

Oh I appear to have wasted my time typing to the world's dumbest fuck.

>>16548678

This exactly. Get them what they want, show them good games too. Let them make the choice themselves. And tbh KH3 isn't a good example of the trash we're seeing. At least he didn't want the fucking rick and morty game.

>>16543731

See above. Also at least you're not like one of those idiots saying "My X will only play good games from NES." My father did that with Sega Genesis while literally everyone in school had N64 or PS and had pokemon on GB. I was a social outcast because of it. He got me a Nomad (after price drop). And while people look back and say "thats awesome" it wasn't awesome being 8 years old with no friends and made fun of.

>>16548744

I'm not sure why you're so defensive, but you take a strange position, lambasting me for not participating in the /tg/ community while also lambasting me for participating in the /agdg/ community in college.

Anyway, your blackpilling is pretty blatant, and nobody plays GW anymore except 40 year old men with nothing better to do with their disposable income. That's what I saw in the GW shop when I played 40k before realizing that I wouldn't be able to play it on my high school allowance. GW has been shit for ages.

My big question is how exactly you think that /tg/ is going to just up and disappear when a single enthusiast can design an entire game much more easily than a video game, and we've had great video games designed by single people. So what if every single person stopped buying minis? Who the fuck cares? Do you actually buy minis?

>>16548755

A good dad would've slit those faggot kids' throats.

>>16548756

>plays GW

I meant plays miniature games published by GW, of course

>>16548733

>All you need is one talented artist and one talented writer.

And reach, which is the major problem. Sure, you can sell a dozen copies to the handful of people that have friendgroups large and NEET enough to regularly play a variety of /tg/, but you need to reach a certain threshold of popularity to allow most interested people to find a regular group no more than one town over. There's a reason GW games are played so much, and that's the fact that anywhere with a GW store is guaranteed to have at least a couple people a week interested in a game. If you don't reach that threshold, your game is going to fail and your writer and artist are going to go back to working at Walmart.

>>16548756

>40 year old men with nothing better to do with their disposable income

That's a good target demographic if you don't hate money. The games haven't been great for a long while, but they're very much present in most towns which is something you can't say about a lot of other games.

>>16548714

/tg/ will merge with /lit/ as it's own form of literature, like adult choose-your-own-adventure books. Barnes and Noble is already there, about a fifth of their floorspace are toys now and half of that /tg/ type items, which unfortunately are put adjacent the funko pops which stare at the people eating in the Starbucks.

The SJWs there will never go away, but over time as bigger publishers get in and popular books/sets come out their influence will be reduced since they can't handle the stress of serious writing and don't want to commit to a serious company that can move the amount of product needed to make something mainstream.

>>16548759

He was close to really. I don't blame him at all, he tried hard and I appreciate his efforts. In the end we got a PS and I saved money to get future consoles. We played a lot of PS classics together, I guess we both discovered what was good and wasn't.

These days he's exactly like the 30 year old boomer meme. I hope I'm like him when I turn 60 too

>>16548763

>If you don't reach that threshold, your game is going to fail and your writer and artist are going to go back to working at Walmart.

>implying they aren't still working at Walmart all the way until they release splatbooks

You seem to be debating the current state of health of the /tg/ industry; the point I am trying to make is that it is almost irrelevant. Board games are staying fairly popular too, at least if my relatively frequent experiences with different groups of people with games like Betrayal at the House on the Hill and Eldritch Horror and Cosmic Encounters are worth anything. I've played each of those games with completely different groups of people. At one of my old jobs, we had board game night on Wednesdays where we'd play games like that (maybe not Cosmic Encounters). I've also been able to play deckbuilding games like Netrunner.

But regardless, even if that industry somehow didn't exist, the amount of investment it takes to produce a board game is minimal. Even less for a card game, and less than that for a P&P RPG unless you want a very fancy rulebook, which as Lamentations of the Flame Princess has taught us can be fancy even in monochrome. The amount of capital and effort it takes for a guy who wants to make his own board, card game or RPG is simply not that great.

>>16548756

You have no clue what you're talking about and you talk like a queer. GW and WOTC are still the only /tg/ companies able to support a game store. Everything else is fringe. Every club plays a GW game and every store has MTG nights.

You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when you think some asshole releasing a PDF for 5 bucks is competition to these people

>Do you actually buy minis

Yes, as I'm a mini gamer and a model builder. I'm not some fag who hates himself so much he pretends he's a dwarf with other losers staring at their phone until it's their turn to play pretend.

>>16548791

>some asshole releasing a PDF for 5 bucks is competition to these people

Nobody said this.

>>16548764

Writing is where the SJWs are strongest. That's all they can do. Have you seen the latest star wars novels? If not check out /sw/ some time for some gems.

>>16548771

The board game bubble is the same bubble as the big bang theory one. Once Marvel and Star wars pops the bubble goes with it and right now that bubble is the only thing keeping it alive.

Do you know who plays tabletop games? Straight white men. Do you now who's losing their income and failing to launch the most? Straight white men. Your industry can't run on NEET bucks.

>Investment in a card game is minimal

And tell me why I wouldn't just make it digital and go for the heathstone market? Even WOTC have noticed paper card games are dying and want the digital market. Much easier to tap into the third world on smart phones than ship them product too.

>>16548797

That's literally his argument

>Heuh heuh it's so cheap and easy to make a larp it'll never die

>>16548804

So are you intentionally misreading everything or does that just come naturally?

>>16548809

you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I addressed his argument and I've seen faggots like him say this over and over

>Heuh heuh you can just like download a PDF and play with your friends

<Friends move away or get busy with life

<No longer a stream feeding the player pool

<Tables start dwindling

<Game has to pack up because only 2 guys are left

Yea bro just like buy a 5 bucks PDF. It'll keep the industry alive. Playing Flux at a pub is totally like investing hours in building and painting models or designing adventures right bro? chips and dip XD Did you see that new youtube E celeb's D&D game where they fight mysoginerds? XD

>>16548791

You're still not getting it or you are intentionally ignoring my point to make your argument seem more meritable. I don't care about WOTC or GW, as I have established numerous times in my earlier posts they make shit games and I don't play them. If you do, well you have shit taste and that's your problem alone. I also don't care about dismantling their companies because I don't pretend to be a crusader and I don't think that destroying the quarantine zone for dangerhairs and army list tournament autists is going to do the rest of the /tg/ industry any favors because those players have entrenched themselves in their respective games so firmly that they usually refuse to budge, much like Apple users. The industry does not hinge on these companies and the fact that you seem to watch their stock prices with bated breath shows me you enjoy these shit games or you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how a market dominated by enthusiasts with lots of free time works.

>>16548804

>Your industry can't run on NEET bucks.

Yes it can you fucking idiot, that is exactly what I've stated for the last 3 posts. Prove to me that it can't.

>>16549071

>>16549085

I already did explain but you're clinically retarded. You seem to think selling 10 pdfs and having it pirated is all the industry needs to stay alive. You're literally the autist living in his mothers basement pirating pdfs thinking he's at all relevant to the hobby.

>>16549117

And you seem to think "the industry" is literally 3 companies. Try to take a step back for a second and realize how stupid you sound. You would be laughed off this board in a second if you applied this argument to video games. "Guys, if you don't buy Microsoft and Sony games as much as possible, all indie games and unrelated AA studios will go under and there will be no more video games!" Totally fucking absurd.

>>16544258

cee ee ex sucks they just strongarmed the local market and now other shops that sell games shut down. Don't expect those cheap prices to last forever.

>>16549161

They pawn shops fueled by theft.

>>16547111

I know this feel all too well. It wasn't about being king shit head at the party who had a fan in his light up Xbox controller (lick my ass, Mike, it proved it's worth tenfold that night) but about having something that is cool. In 2019 AD everything is homogeneous, with the most crazy thing being the different shrink wrap you can buy for your 90 USD controller. Hell, we are actually regressing because they don't make shit light up anymore.

I miss the 90s, if only because there were more flavors of shit

>>16543531

Toys R Us Canada is a separate entity and wasn't affected by the same issues as Toys R Us in the US. All of the stores in my city are still open.

>>16548585

Never do that. I was considering being informative yet here you homosexual bullshit is.

>>16544284

>>16544276

Somewhat unrelated, but that reminds me of the PS2 port of Tribes 2, which had a radically different control scheme and very heavy autoaim but it worked extremely well for a console shooter. I bought it out of a bargain bin precisely because I was curious as to how bad it would be; Tribes was about the worst FPS game I could imagine porting to console due to the need for particularly fast and accurate turning to shoot people while skiing.

>>16549480

If we can sideline to talk about console ports of PC games that were pretty decent, the sims/the sims bustin out we're fantastic, and I wish some of the magic from those games made it into the actual PC version.

The urbz was fucking shit though, good Lord I regret renting it

>>16549100

>living in seattle

Nigger?

>>16543562

PS2 still going so strong? Dont you mean PS3?

>>16549799

I don't think /tg/ was ever meant to have mass market appeal, though. There was a time (70s and 80s specifically) when electronic entertainment was too young to be sophisticated and so /tg/ had a wider appeal because frankly, there wasn't that much else to do on a Saturday night except go to bars, concerts or watch a movie. That time has passed and now the lowest common denominator are satisfied with an oversaturation of overproduced TV/streaming series and terrible video games, so they left the hobby.

My position on this is the same as video games: If the massive amount of money carried by people with bad taste leaves the hobby, then the only people that will be left are those with decent or better taste. That's why I don't understand the concern for the state of the industry. If GW, WOTC, Fantasy Flight or White Wolf vanished, the demand for /tg/ among enthusiasts wouldn't go away and they would make their own games if they had to. Just look at the absurd amount of D&D retroclones made by grognards dissatisfied with modern D&D. I played a campaign in one called Labyrinth Lord not that long ago.

If you're a miniatures gamer, well frankly I can't really empathize with you that greatly. Painting miniatures abd designing terrain is cool and all, but I view that as an ancillary activity with a seperate appeal. In other words, you don't have to like painting minis to like 40k. And if you really need to, you can do it all digitally. I personally don't have the predisposed affection for physical objects that some people seem to have though. But even mini gamers have more options, for example Warmachines and Flames of War.

>>16548804

>And tell me why I wouldn't just make it digital and go for the heathstone market?

don't forget digital lets you reach a demographic that physically literally can't or won't buy into paper. why would I start a collection in bumfuck nowhere to play against?