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Turn Based Tactics Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 16:07:19 67dfb1 No.16505209

I've been playing Invisible Inc it's Klei's second best game after MotN which is depressing to see that they're going all in with the Don't Starve type of game. I'd recommend a pirate because I can see how the flaws can turn off an anon. recently. It has a shitton of flaws but at its core it's a fun turn based stealth game with some of the most intense moments I've had in quite a while.

>Quantum reservoir mission

>turn 17(three turns until extraction), expert mode, no rewinds left

>looted the shit out of everything, just got to get to the teleporter and camp there

>have like three guards knocked out in the other direction, one with 8 armor that I'm dragging around like a ragdoll

>peek around a corner

>4 armor fucker coming my way

>most I've got is AP-3

>no power to tag and lower armor, and no time to set up a shock-trap(like five turns of cooldown), gotta get out now the guards are two turns away from waking up

>drag the 8-armor guard in front of a sofa

>use paralyzer on him so he doesn't fuck up everything

>hide on the other end of the sofa

>next turn, guard finds body, investigates

>cone of vision is perfect to make a run for the teleporter room

>gotta sprint because the Monst3r's a fucking nigger that I'm saddled with has unupgraded speed stats and he can't reach the teleporter sneaking

>sprint

>WHATS THAT- INVESTIGATING- DIDJU HEAR THAT

>three fucking guards coming my way next turn

>lay out my guys in the corners of the teleporter room and get ready

>first guard comes in, holds up one of my guys

>second guard comes in, it's another 8 armor fucker, holds up the nigger at gunpoint

>third guard is right around the corner

>turn 19

>fuck it, use the undetected agent to run around the room far enough to get the third guard hunting elsewhere, then back into the teleporter room

>can't do shit with the nigger or my waifu agent, one turn until any item going off cooldown

>turn 20

>Monst3r gets shot, good riddance

>my waifu gets shot, fuck

>Gladstone's bitching up a storm

>"Operator what the fuck are you doing you spent like 4k credits maxing out her stats and giving her good items and augments"

>"Operator don't shoot my pet nigger we need him to sell off stupid shit like accelerator chips"

>"We're coming up over your position now, and stop whining"

>wait what

>extraction is open

>get the fuck out of there with two agents down and a third held up at gunpoint

Went on to win that campaign because the last mission's layout was absurdly fucking stupid, both switches were at one end of the map, in the same room, with a small chokepoint room perfect for shocktraps and overwatch/ambush spam, so I knocked out most guards and let them run around investigating the ass end of the map for five turns while I hacked both switches and won.

Anyways, what are some good TBT games? I've played JA2, wasn't a big fan. Played the original X-COM and TFTD, was a big fan but shit like getting psyker'd from turn 1 was bullshit, tried Silent Storm and also wasn't a big fan, mainly because of Panzerkliens, Hard West I would have liked if it weren't the two-action model, Steamworld Heist was shittons of fun and is the only game where I actually liked the two action model, Halfway sucked and the Firaxis XCOM games were outright shit, with Long War being a massive improvement but still something I did not play for more than half a campaign I gave Divinity OS a shot and it just wasn't my type of game. I tried Mechanicus and Xenonauts, the former seemed overly flashy but nothing particularly interesting, and the latter was fun but for some reason I dropped it because the visuals were so bland, I can't particularly place my finger on why I thought so. Also both games had unbelievably tiny text meaning I couldn't read half the shit onscreen without giving myself migraines every playthrough.

Is Resonance of Fate any good? It seems flashy but it's a JRPG with a slightly more involved combat system than the normal and if The Last Remanent was anything to go by I really enjoy that sort of shit. What are some good original X-Com modes? I skimmed over X-Piratez and came to the conclusion that someone on the dev team has a roid-tier musclegrill fetish and wasn't afraid to let it show.

A good and fitting OST would be much appreciated too. Those sirens at the end-stages really gets me going.

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 16:44:09 67dfb1 No.16505339

Please respond.

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 16:47:10 222cf0 No.16505346

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>>16505209

>>16505339

Blog Post. Yawn.

Anon, you don't need /v/ to validate your fun for you

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 16:54:12 67dfb1 No.16505364

>>16505346

I'm asking for TBT recommendations and trying to get a discussion for TBTs since I'm sure anons have some good xcom stories to share. Not exactly a blog post.

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 17:02:07 7a2dd2 No.16505389

Any evidence of Klei being pozzed?

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 17:03:32 67dfb1 No.16505392

>>16505389

Probably. Haven't played much of don't starve or any of their later games.

They're Canadian I think so it's only a matter of time.

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 19:48:40 e0e8f6 No.16505806

>>16505389

Don't want to derail this thread. >>16486830

Anonymous 05/25/19 (Sat) 20:13:41 950473 No.16505871

Divinity: OS 1 and 2 might be up your alley if you enjoy rpg elements added to your turn based tactics.

I still haven't finished the second game but so far I prefer the first. Being able to respec relatively early on is better though.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 01:06:08 000000 No.16506668

>>16505209

The devs are leftists.

All their products are automatically shit.

>>16505346

>projecting this hard about validation

Redditor with the brain rotten by soy, as always.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 15:31:21 c7c060 No.16508317

bumpan. Is Resonance of Fate at least any good?

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 15:43:35 e7aa68 No.16508348

File: dacce71456344c9⋯.webm (3.35 MB, 854x480, 427:240, brazil is cancelled.webm)

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 15:53:26 7be8ff No.16508385

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>>16505209

fuck off shill. the alpha version of this was massively superior, but they turned it into disgusting mess that belongs in a trashcan just like you and your thread.

here's some of the highlights of their bullshit:

>orig: comfy, interconnected levels where you could run rings around enemies

<nu: linear hallways with only one route to the exit because fuck you

>orig: had two exits, one was harder to reach but gave you a better starting spot in the next level

<nutrash: has only one exit

>orig: you can punch guards in the head

<nu: you can only tase enemies and your taser has a 3-turn cooldown because fuck you

>orig: you could beat up or kill guards

<nu: a single guard can kill your entire team, ON YOUR TURN, without having to reload his fucking gun

>orig: guns had multiple bullets

<nu: EVERY GUN IS A FUCKING SINGLE-SHOT DERRINGER AND AMMO IS RARE AS FUCK

tl;dr fuck invisible stink and fuck you.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 16:23:10 c7c060 No.16508460

>>16508385

I haven't played it in early access, but you're fucking bullshitting in a few ways

>interconnected levels where you could run rings around enemies

Present in all but difficulty 1 levels. Every level where I knocked out guards I leave the doors to the dummy-already explored rooms opened so they can go run around in that area of the map giving me extra turns before they start breathing down my neck.

>two exits, one was harder to reach but gave you a better starting spot in the next level

This sounds great and is something I genuinely wanted while playing.

>punch guards in the head

Not remotely a good thing. The fact that tasers and weapons are on a cooldown means you can't just waltz into every room

>kill or beat up guards

You still can. Guards being lethal isn't a bad thing in the slightest

>guns being single shot

Bullshit.

>Ammo being rare

Accurate.

>Shill

Fuck you, dumbass. I recommend a pirate for the game because the flaws can turn one off. The random generation is mediocre at times and can result in missions that are impossible to win or impossible to lose(like spawning both the bank vault and the exit teleporter in adjacent rooms, which also happens to be the first room outside of your starting room). Lethal builds are impossible. Balance is a joke with items like "sets X agent stat to 3" augments, accelerator chips and econ chips being nothing but wastes of money and inventory space. Internationale's starting augment is so fucking good it makes every other agent look like shit by comparison. The fact that guards can't do the simple task of using keycard doors(there's a mod for it but that doesn't count) is a terrible oversight. Shock trap is absurdly good and is outright essential for later levels where guards spawn with 3+ armor that cannot be hacked. Executive terminal missions are a joke that exist solely to counteract certain mission types not spawning or too much of a mission type spawning. Cybernetic labs are pretty much suicide missions since nanofabs also offer good cybernetics without the risk of knocking out an agent for a few turns and alerting guards to a location. Executive suites feel like an afterthought since with high enough anarchy the loot you get from looting guards is enough to compensate for not accessing the innervault for vault missions. Detention centers are shit with the random chance of either getting fat amounts of dosh from rescuing a prisoner or getting saddled with a pack mule-pin machine third/fourth agent.

Corporation variety is limited. They all field the same daemons and mainframe devices(with one exception) and the art-styles for the corps are virtually identical, even with the super high tech Omni-corp. Play long enough and you'll realize FTM and Plastech are the least risk-highest reward corps to go up against, FTM because rushing to find the router/scanner devices isn't nearly enough risk to counterbalance getting at least an additional 1K credits per FTM mission, and Plastech because they field the most amount of guards which can be pick pocketed for more credits and items and do not field annoying drones with through cover scanners that can only be pickpocketed for power or in rate instances, accelerator/buster chips.

The extended campaign Contingency plan means executive suite missions can be a death sentence if you've got a shitton of guards you can't go through breathing down your neck, but you still haven't recovered the redundant battery. Not recovering the battery should have incurred an overall remaining hour length penalty, not outright end the campaign.

But for all of these flaws, I found the game very fun. Body too long.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 16:28:52 a7ff7b No.16508481

>>16508317

It's amazeballs. It's also not really turn-based. I mean, nominally, you take a turn then the enemy takes a turn, etc, but it's much more of an Action RPG. Think of it as a John Woo Simulator with JRPG menus and stats.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 16:35:14 c7c060 No.16508503

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>>16508460

I still like the game. I love the alarm level structure and how it mounts increasing pressure on the player to force them to leave or risk losing everything for higher rewards instead of instant failing you for taking too long(which is why I hate the secondary objective for the extended campaign).

I love the enemy AI outside of their interaction with locked doors and how they do not alert fellow guards in visual sight when hunting or wake up knocked out guards(although I can see why that choice in particular was made). How they investigate noises and peculiarities in their vision and how they sweep their vision over the investigation point. How they can be fooled by knocking them out and then leaving a door to an already explored area to have them investigate that part of the map. I like the music and how it increases with intensity over alarm levels. I like the stealth system and how for a relatively simple turn based game it goes with an AP system instead of sticking you with a two action system. I like the premise a lot and I enjoy the hacking minigame that's all built around resource mangement and risk taking. I wish the daemons mechanic were better implemented(especially with the order mechanic I think was introduced in contingency plan). I love the gameplay and how intense it comes, and how it comes due to how much of a threat any guard, from the shittiest level 1 unarmored guard to the 8 armor 360 peripheral vision guard who constantly throws scanning grenades and flashbangs at you can be.

>Shill

I'll upload this pirated most recent build that I've always been playing if it means someone else plays the game and enjoyed it as much as I did. Can you really fault me? The only other stealth systems in turn based games I can think of were Silent Storms, which was fine but slowed gameplay down to a crawl since it arguably wasn't the main focus of the game. There's XCOM 2 which I found exceeding awful and unfun just as I found everything else in XCOM 2 exceeding awful and unfun. Then there's Hard West(if you can even call the setup phase that) which was just one big joke and I'm a big fan of stealth, although so far it's been done better in strategy and tactics in real time games like Shadow Tactics than turn based.

I can fully understand someone not enjoying the game. I completely acknowledge the game is flawed and Contingency plan added more problems than fixed them. But in spite of these flaws at the core I really enjoyed the game and I hoped someone would recommend some game of a similar style that I missed that's better or comparable.

Anonymous 05/26/19 (Sun) 16:51:15 654179 No.16508547

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>>16508481

>amazeballs

Anonymous 05/27/19 (Mon) 06:50:40 c7c060 No.16511003

What about Phantom Doctorine or that furry XCOM game, eden or whatever?

Anonymous 05/27/19 (Mon) 07:21:07 d59f9f No.16511078

>>16508348

What the fuck?

t. Brazilian

Anonymous 05/27/19 (Mon) 07:54:22 1873e2 No.16511120

>>16511003

>Phantom Doctrine

It was okay, nothing new though it's just X-Com with Stealth and you can play as CIA, KGBand (((Mossad))). And the game is Mutant Year Zero Road to Eden, it was pretty average I guess, the furfaggotry plotline of creating mutants and Sweden ruining everything in the story, literally, was pretty serviceable.

Anonymous 05/27/19 (Mon) 20:26:20 7fcab3 No.16512573

>>16511120

How deep was the stealth though? Can I as the CIA or KGB shoah Israel and Mossad agents?

Anonymous 05/27/19 (Mon) 21:16:14 ce72b4 No.16512726

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