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>What's a game that gets harder?

>Except for a game that gets harder, that doesn't count!

>>16486569

>>What's a game that gets harder?

except that's not what he said you fucking retarded redditor, learn to read

Resident Evil 4 has an adaptive difficulty system that gets a little easier each time you game over. Seems like Capcom was experimenting a lot with that kind of thing

Left 4 Dead has adaptive difficulty. I think it spawns more zombies and spawns the stronger special zombies more often if you're progressing quickly and getting a lot of kills. I haven't played them much, so I'm not sure how it works.

Real life.

Touhou EoSD has dynamic difficulty which makes the bullet patterns get faster and faster if you don't die for some time.

>>16486559

Here you go. https://www.svg.com/138490/games-you-didnt-know-featured-dynamic-difficulty/

>>16486625

LLS and MS also have this.

>>16486612

ye, the director can be a fucking prick

>>16486583

>Resident Evil 4 has an adaptive difficulty system that gets a little easier each time you game over.

I've heard nuRE2 has some kind of adaptive difficulty too, that mainly determines the amount of ammo loot you get. If you're constantly running low on ammo the loot increases, if you have ammo to spare it decreases.

Sort of related, but I’ve heard demons souls gets harder when you die

>>16486559

Shmups usually.

>>16486990

Not only that, it also seems effects enemy health as well. Do too good? Zombies will start jerking around erratically and you'll have to dump the majority of a mag into their heads just to kill it. Oh, and they also flinch/stumble less often. I'd much rather they just cut that shit out and made ammo a little more scarce, because it would only annoy the shit out of me by drawing fights out longer.

>>16486604

>Resident Evil 4 follows similar to God Hand, Normal difficulty can scale up to professional

Please elaborate. I've done a no-death, no-upgrades run at both normal and professional difficulties and yet I felt that ammo drop rates and enemy HP are consistently more favorable on normal.

>>16487435

it's to actually encourage you to kneecap them more frequently and not outright fight them. it also helps to punish you if you're a retard who doesn't board up windows early on as zombies will just pour in like a leaky faucet.

>>16487603

I eventually did start kneecapping them and running by because it was becoming a pain in the ass to deal with. It never actually resulted in a game over far as I can remember, it just served to annoy the shit out of me and made the experience less enjoyable.

>>16486583

I hate that kind of shit, I don't want a game to get easier and easier until I win. Getting harder is more acceptable, but then what if it does get too hard it has to lower back down, which is stupid, or you hit a wall because you played too well.

>>16487760

How's Rabi Ribi do it?

>>16487760

>gold ST

>in those 7 minutes someone went through a section the fastest they ever have

Aces Wild has a God Hand styled difficulty meter where the better you play, the harder you hit, but the harder and more aggressive enemies become and enemies get a bigger chance to, on death, spawn a shitton of very low hp enemies that either let you go big on the score/meter or lose half of it.

>>16486617

wow dude… bro… that's so deep.

>>16486850

Technically factorio also does this with pollution increasing mutation rate for bugs.

>>16487890

It doesnt work that way. It just boosts speed of AI cars who are too far in the back. And no one drives slowly to make AI suck.

>>16487890

Need of Speed is guilty of this. In some areas I was able to do some insane stretches because of good handling and drifting, then all the AI just went on with 2x max speed high behind me through the curviest areas ever. Shit was disgusting.

>>16486559

>game gets harder the better you get

>garegga

That's not true brainlet, a good player will know how to suicide to reduce rank, it's easy to pull of a suicide, it's not hidden knowledge.

The better you get at shmups the more boring and easy they become, same with beat em ups like God Hand

Homeworld. The more units you end a level with the more enemies there are in the next one. Though it's easy to cheese by selling everything before ending the level

Crimzon Clover World Ignition has a mode where it gets more difficult as you play and don't get hit.

>>16487950

>the game doesn't get harder the better you do because you can avoid it by deliberately killing yourself

>accusing others of being "brainlets"

You're an absolute retard. If it doesn't count because you can avoid it by playing worse, then fucking no game with this kind of adaptive difficulty counts, according to your brain dead logic. Because you can just play worse so that the game doesn't raise the difficulty, right?

>>16488045

no you intentionally play worse to play better

F-Zero X

>>16488045

it's not "playing worse" , your skill doesn't diminish, you don't become a newb when you make a strategic sacrifice.

>>16487810

The bosses start to do less and less damage if you keep losing. I don't know if this still applies to the harder difficulties but those need to be unlocked to begin with.

>>16487892

That's me when starting out. I'm still bad at them though.

I don't know any games like OP wants, but I'm surprised nobody mentioned their peenus weenus of course.

If my memory serves me well, Demon souls' enemies get more harder to beat each time you die, and I don't know if this would count, L4D and it's clones spawn harder zombies the better you do.

>>16488390

dyin in non-hollow form in da various worlds did dat, if u stayed in hollow form by killin yo-self in da citadel u could maintain white world tendency

>>16487476

here ur bideo monica :-DDDDDDDD

>>16486559

Pretty much any multiplayer game. The higher on the ladder you are, the stiffer the competition.

>>16486559

Any PvP game with matchmaking forcing 50-50 winrate.

Sinner Sacrifice for Redemption makes you level down every time you fight a boss

haven't played it myself but what I saw at PAX looked pretty cool, the soulslike thread also has some info on it

Also in demons souls game was supposed to be harder the more you die in human form. The worse you play the game the harder it gets, same with ds2 to some extent.

Probably gonna trigger some autist with this, but Rimworld does it really well.

It's a game about building up a colony and managing it's chores, supplies and residents while you fortify it against invasions and try to get ahead of whatever problem might come in the future.

The game let's you pick a difficulty to work with, but it's more of a range, where things get harder the better you're doing.

Whenever the game decides to trigger an invasion, it checks the supplies in your colony as well as how many dudes you have and your past history when dealing with invasions, spawning harder enemies if you've managed to somehow kill everyone from the last raid without having any of your colonists downed in combat.

It's not a perfect system, and there's mods that make the algorythm take far more things into account (so frail old colonists or bed-ridden ones don't count as much, for instance) but overall it's an interesting way to do scaling difficulty.

It also upsets a lot of players that scumsave like crazy, making sure they never lose anyone in any battle and then end up fighting against mechatronic abominations or super powered raiders with mortars.

>>16486583

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>>16488566

Ironic, because I found the game to be easier on professional since I kept getting shit drops in normal even though I was playing good.

>>16489104

It's not a contest, anon.

>>16488390

>L4D and it's clones spawn harder zombies the better you do

Left4Dead changes the spawns for both zombies and supplies according to how well you're doing.

If you barely lose HP on a stage, the next one will see some medkits replaced by pills and some pills removed alltogether.

If you're having no problem killing special zombies, more will spawn and sooner, which includes Tanks as well. You can easily end up with 2 Tanks on the same round if you're doing that good and take your time.

Conversely, if you're doing poorly, more medkits will spawn, the Tier 2 weapons will show up sooner as well and special zombies are more spaced.

>>16488151

Git gud at sonic drops to break s1.

Past that it's just reaction time and clean building.

Is it possible to play God Hand in 60fps or does it break the physics?

Polite sage for off-topic.

>>16490019

If the tick rate stays at 30 it should be okay. If it's tied to framerate (it probably is) then you'd have to cut all the values in half to compensate.

>>16488083

Except a measure of skill is not fucking dying you retard, in fact when its the main one used to determine difficulty scaling that should be a fucking given

>Gets harder the better you play

It doesn't.

God Hand gets harder the LONGER you play, because 'being bad' means to die and the game is over. It's a shit system that forces you to use the grovel move constantly, unless you want to die at max. Only single mother kids get excited at strict difficulty settings, because they imagine it's like having a dad.

>>16491108

What are you, a fucking casual that does not want to improve? Go play some more Candy Crush.

>>16491075

Depends on your metrics. A big video game exception is speedrunning where death warping is a common tactic, and I think RE4 also uses it to shorten a boss fight. This could also apply to say Magic Carpet as a way to get back to your castle quickly either because it's under threat or to recharge your mana. Even in professional sports, the meta game can occasionally allow for fouls or other play that would normally be counter to doing it correctly, but could ultimately make or break the game if played right, particularly in relation to match time.

With shmups though, surviving is the beginner metric. Scoring is the advanced. Whether intentional deaths can allow better scoring potential and if it's harder to pull off is the deciding factor of whether it's casual or not to do, but most shmups heavily penalize deaths score-wise, and will not allow continuing past a certain point without a 1cc.

Also while not exactly difficulty scaling, Raptor's got its own interesting way of rewarding good play and really punishing sloppy play via its balancing act of killing as many ships as possible but without taking a lot of damage. For the first episode or two it's about acquiring the best weapons quickly, but in the third it's an endurance of averaging ~3 phase shields expended per stage since that's about as much cash as you get for clearing one. Getting hit by a laser burns a hole in your pocket, and if you get dragged down to losing the twin laser, it's game over.

>>16491108

It's more that its definition of "good" is far too forgiving. The gauge rises easily but doesn't fall easily, and so the difficulty curve goes all over the place. Item luck plays a part too unless you're a 10/10 player. Really, if the rate of change wasn't so quick you could probably take grovel out entirely.

>>16491108

It's easier on higher difficulties because you get to kick their asses more often by counterattacking with an uppercut

>>16487435

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>>16487619

I think they might have toned this down in later patches though. On release you would get a head pop when the planets aligned and the red moon hanged low but recently I've noticed getting head pops much more frequently.

>>16490019

It will unless you change the n values like in Killer is Dead.

>>16489960

Fairly certain most of that is false. It was pre-release talk by valve but they ended up scrapping it. Medkits/pills/spawns/etc are entirely up to the mapmaker and your cvars to determine the spawn chance.

Source: was a competitive versus player and knew the ins and outs of expert/realism mode.

Which platformers have dynamic difficulty?

>>16491160

And on everything below Die you can spam sweep and never go for a counterhit, what's your point?

>>16491108

Lol look at this kotaku editor

>>16486697

what a garbage website

>>16491509

If you don't know the trick, maybe Tick-Tock Clock in SM64?

>>16486850

>check if openapoc is done yet

https://trello.com/c/ccBtFiKa/61-road-to-fully-playable-state

fug, but at least they are coming along nicely

IVAN for one

space invaders for another

>>16491513

it's faster to kill enemies by uppercutting them (when they're doing a string of attacks) or breaking their guard

>>16491160

I've never been able to do uppercuts well, is there some kind of trick? They come out way too slow to be of use.

>>16492869

Yes, FASTER for a competent player. That doesn't make Die easier than lower levels, which is what you said. Or are you gonna tell me that being unable to cheese crowd control with no skill at all makes the game easier?

>>16493255

You get a full height launch on counterhit even if it's not charged. The timing is basically the same as high side kick. There's not much point in trying to charge it unless a lone guy's taunting or something.

>>16493314

>There's not much point in trying to charge it

Forgot about the invincibility storing, that's a good reason to.

>>16493314

It takes way, way longer to get an uppercut out for me. I'm wondering if its some kind of PCSX2 input lag problem. I've never been able to escape grabs on level die either.

>>16493377

Some enemy attacks don't actually have a large enough window to do a charge punch even without charging, in theory. Enemies tend to move forward when attacking, so you can initialize charge punch while out-of-range but they'll end up in range during the window of opportunity if your zoning and timing is good. There's a lot of nuance to God Hand's combat system. Which isn't to say I'm actually good at the game, I'm pretty hopeless. Unfortunately I can't speak for emulator issues. I've only played it on PS2 and PS3.

>>16493377

if they're doing starting string of attacks, backflip the first hit, uppercut inbetween fourth and fifth (usually they do 4 swings and briefly pause and swing), then dash left to cancel the recovery or in case you mess up. do note: you can cancel most of your attacks by weaving your head or dashing to the side, weaving your head up and pressing triangle makes you do a leg sweep. Uppercuts are in general pretty useful in making enemies more aggressive, dealing way more damage and if you need to control the crowd, do a kick and knock them out of the way.

>>16495811

richter did not say that.

>>16491459

you realize this shit obviously doesnt apply in versus because it would be unfair, right?

>>16496166

>Does this happens in the original versions too?

In the original, the last few missions were impossible without bringing over captured ships.

>>16486559

Any porn game where the porn is the reward.

The dick sucking game

It's been mentioned, but Left 4 Dead's Director will alter everything from items types, item frequency, horde size, its choice of special infected, and when the Tank appears based on how well your team is doing and your playstyle. It's a good way of keeping subsequent runs fresh, and seriously high level players can game the Director itself.

Prey (the old one) has an adaptive difficulty setting you can toggle, and from what I've read it does things pretty similar to Left 4 Dead a couple of years before it came out. I like Prey, and the more I learn about it the more I like it.

>>16491509

The first few Crash Bandicoot and Spyro games, according to different websites.

>>16496274

Versus had randomized spawns (at least originally, not sure if its been changed by now, for competitive play you had server mods that forced things to be identical). Furthermore I'm also talking about Expert difficulty.

I suppose its possible that single player works on God Hand rules where the game is always at max difficulty on Expert while on easier difficulties it eases up if survivors are doing poorly. Never really played much on easier settings so I dunno.

Gundemonium has a system that lowers the difficulty when you get hit. it pisses me off to no end

Re2make

>>16509007

>How do you create good racing game AI?

The F-Zero way. Let the AI use advanced techniques, but sub-optimally. If the AI is decently adaptable, you'll have a fair challenge and weed out 90% of scrubs in one go.

>>16494275

I've done my KMS, I will never stop putting a guard breaker on slot 3/4 when I use a light multihit chain.

>>16486559

Resident Evil 4

>>16516507

Which F-Zero? because they're all bullshit, they either bump into you, have ridiculous amount of rubber banding and force you to be almost perfect at every corner.

>>16516839

GX doesn't have rubber-banding except for a few story races. I think X doesn't have it either, but it's been too long to say for sure. GX is definitely fair.

>>16489960

>>16497521

As mentioned in the >>16488566 video L4D director tries to estimate the player stress levels, Valve has an build of L4D2 that has bio-metric support (using pulse reader, skin conduvity sensing peripherals) that actually senses your actual stress level to provide an even more accurate reading of player stress.