/v/ - Video Games

not using gzdoom maybe

>>16444171

I have tried it on GLBoom too, even there it's still like 3FPS

>>16444172

according to the forum, PrBoom+ GLBoom+, Eternity, Doom Retro, Crispy Doom, and Doom Legacy. works well, what's your machine specs?

Anyone have the webm of the guy attempting to make a similar map in Doom 4 and being restricted to like six dozen revs?

>>16444180

Maybe that single-channel 8GBs of RAM is bottleknecking you

Revenants were a great addition to the monster pool. Archviles were a shit addition that does nothing but slow down gameplay to a crawl.

>>16444207

Pain Elementals are the only shit enemies, fuck them

>>16444184

same guy, don't have the webm though

>>16444286

>and WIndows by default shipts ones with bad support for it.

No, Windows does not, AMD does, since they depreciated Opengl support on their official drivers years ago in favor of pushing Vulkan. That's partially why OpenGL is faster on Nvidia shit even on GNU/Linux.

>>16444292

AMD's Windows drivers are a joke, period. I'm specifically saying that if you get the graphics drivers through Microsoft instead of NVIDIA, they will be gimped. Also his GPU is not AMD.

>>16444286

>Also check out The Revenant Problem and Revenant Bus

Oh lordy they are fucking amazing. That's some top-quality shit-wadding right there.

>>16444299

>Also his GPU is not AMD.

Shit you're right I saw the Ryzen and my brain got confused

>>16444286

>>16444240

Is this an engine limitation or is this just a SnapMap limitation? I could imagine its just a SnapMap limitation put in place to have consistency between PCs and consoles

>>16444306

>is this an engine limitation or is this just a snapmap limitation

probably both, considering there's only a couple dozen enemies in a single area at any one time in D44M

>>16444306

Probably an editor limitation but like I care when the real modding scene is with the original games and modern source ports, not pre-fab lego map makers.

>>16444306

NuDoom can actually handle more monsters but they hardcoded it low due to "muh overwhelming enemies" and some ai token shit.

>>16444316

>>16444312

Nobody even gives enough of a fuck about the game or the engine anyways to try and push any limits regardless. That's what I find the most sad about nuDoom is that usually people show a real interest in the inner workings of Id Tech engines but with Id Tech 6 its basically just a clone of Cry Engine with a command line interface tacked on to give it some illusion of a real legacy and no real scripting language. Its fucking boring. Usually a games engine forms a part of the games identity you know?

>>16444325

kinda sucks that Gen Z's will remember this disgrace with dogshit multiplayer and absolutely zero modding community as an actual Doom game

>>16444319

So NuDoom basically wanted to copy Serious Sam but take away what made Serious Sam fun in the first place?

Who the fuck hired these retards and why do people praise their garbage?

>>16444382

Wasn't Croteam originally making Doom 4? That's why it's so damn similar to Serious Sam in the first place.

>>16444398

>shipping a doom game with denuvo

And people have forgotten about it already, whilst the OG doom still goes strong, except for the tranny community

>>16444398

And they removed SnapMap outright in Doom Eternal because it's so shit.

>>16447329

This. nuDoom is merely a flavor-of-the-month "blockbuster" game that tried to rewrite history, but couldn't. nuDoom will be forgotten entirely in 10 years like Doom 3, but OG Doom will still be going strong. Or at least I hope so, because the trannies have fucking infested it.

>>16447353

If they do just emigrate to Quake, the community of quakedad mappers is immune to infiltration by trannies.

>>16447361

I've already more or less emigrated there, I had a severe Doom burnout. Maybe I'll even start mapping someday.

I'd like to see someone record this shit with 60FPS.

>The preview video was recorded with PrBoom+'s (actually GLBoom+) handy -viddump parameter, as mentioned above by Linguica.

>The end output message was "Timed 3227 gametics in 1897887 realtics = 0.1 frames per second". If my calculations are correct, this means the 92.2 seconds of footage took roughly 15 hours to render.

>>16444382

NuDoom can't even handle bluetooth headphones.

>>16447353

>Doom Eternal

I lost interest in that when I heard they were pushing it to games as a service streaming shit platforms

Fucking hell, the new RAGE doesn't even use Id Tech, it uses Unreal Engine. I feel like all of Carmacks legacy is just being shat on

>>16444306

>Is this an engine limitation or is this just a SnapMap limitation?

Definitely engine limitation, Doom 4 had similar Since it's hard coded it's essentially an engine limitation, even if you removed it I doubt you could get higher then the enemy totals Doom 4 can accomplish.

>>16447353

>Or at least I hope so, because the trannies have fucking infested it.

I only know that cyberdemon faggot who is so unbearable that not even the trannies at GDQ can stand him. What other trannies are there?

>>16444390

Wait, they were? What the fuck why didn't Bethesda let them develop it? Serious Sam with Demons would have been awesome.

>>16455491

<Use Linux

>Can't play games

<Use Windows 7

>Support ending soom

<Use mac

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not like he has much choice

>>16455515

>support ending soon

why does that matter? are there any new PC games coming out that are good?

has anyone here updated windows 7 since 2016?

>>16455518

>why does that matter? are there any new PC games coming out that are good?

I guess RDR2 will probably come out on PC like GTA V did.

Besides that, I guess Doom Eternal

>>16455515

Linux plays games you just have to git gud

>>16455594

Oh, yeah, of course! That Tux penguin snowboarding game, truly an unforgettable classic

>>16449413

It's actually being preserved, at least in my opinion. Personally I'm glad that they threw out everything and used some licensed dogshit because then Carmack can't possibly be associated with any failures in the future. MegaTextures were a mistake though

>>16455604

You retard gorilla nigger, Linux game support is better than it ever was. Even brand new games can run perfectly in Wine if they use Vulkan. I can play Mordhau in Wine with zero issues.

>>16455611

>Linux game support is better than it ever was.

Still not as good as windows

>>16455618

Thanks for shilling. 10 Indian rupees have been deposited to your account.

>>16455606

>MegaTextures were a mistake though

The concept seems good. It just wasn't the best implementation of it, like most things Carmack.

>>16455622

no

>>16455657

Yes, Vikram. It's time to get back to coding now. Wouldn't want your visa to expire now would we?

>>16455518

>why does that matter?

It's a much bigger problem because of driver support.

That said, I'll stick with it for as long as possible.

>>16455594

Most people are scared away by loonix because it doesn't work out the box like wangblows does and while I haven't played anything with it, every time I look at a linux thread I see people with issues and trying to find workarounds.

I can understand the passion for tinkering with technology, but I don't want any of that when it comes to vidya.

I want it to "just work."

>>16455669

no

>>16455669

no.

>>16455672

I won't bullshit you, it is difficult. Things may stop working seemingly randomly and it will be for a reason that you don't immediately understand (usually either lack of file organization, configuration or you made the mistake of updating a dependency maintained by a faggot) However I'm also a programmer so I'm used to dealing with that type of environmental shit. It has reached a "critical mass" point with me where using Windows 10 is less convenient than using Linux. It sounds like a faggy analogy but using a Linux setup is like tuning a custom sports car where Windows is like driving a Mustang off the lot. It's difficult to understand until you get to the point where you can fly through a CLI more efficiently than any GUI, reorganizing all of your files or searching through gigs of text files with a single line, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to learn to do that. I just hate it when Windows fags shit on anons like myself for using Linux when I didn't even really have a choice anyway because Win7 doesn't officially support my CPU architecture and I didn't want to bother with a pirated copy of an OS I don't like.

>>16455672

I won't bullshit you, it is difficult. Things may stop working seemingly randomly and it will be for a reason that you don't immediately understand (usually either lack of file organization, configuration or you made the mistake of updating a dependency maintained by a faggot) However I'm also a programmer so I'm used to dealing with that type of environmental shit. It has reached a "critical mass" point with me where using Windows 10 is less convenient than using Linux. It sounds like a faggy analogy but using a Linux setup is like tuning a custom sports car where Windows is like driving a Mustang off the lot. It's difficult to understand until you get to the point where you can fly through a CLI more efficiently than any GUI, reorganizing all of your files or searching through gigs of text files with a single line, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to learn to do that. I just hate it when Windows fags shit on anons like myself for using Linux when I didn't even really have a choice anyway because Win7 doesn't officially support my CPU architecture and I didn't want to bother with a pirated copy of an OS I don't like.

Fuck your alacrity demon let me post

>>16455672

I won't bullshit you, it is difficult. Things may stop working seemingly randomly and it will be for a reason that you don't immediately understand (usually either lack of file organization, configuration or you made the mistake of updating a dependency maintained by a faggot) However I'm also a programmer so I'm used to dealing with that type of environmental shit. It has reached a "critical mass" point with me where using Windows 10 is less convenient than using Linux. It sounds like a faggy analogy but using a Linux setup is like tuning a custom sports car where Windows is like driving a Mustang off the lot. It's difficult to understand until you get to the point where you can fly through a CLI more efficiently than any GUI, reorganizing all of your files or searching through gigs of text files with a single line, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to learn to do that. I just hate it when Windows fags shit on anons like myself for using Linux when I didn't even really have a choice anyway because Win7 doesn't officially support my CPU architecture and I didn't want to bother with a pirated copy of an OS I don't like.

>>16455672

I won't bullshit you, it is difficult. Things may stop working seemingly randomly and it will be for a reason that you don't immediately understand (usually either lack of file organization, configuration or you made the mistake of updating a dependency maintained by a faggot) However I'm also a programmer so I'm used to dealing with that type of environmental shit. It has reached a "critical mass" point with me where using Windows 10 is less convenient than using Linux. It sounds like a faggy analogy but using a Linux setup is like tuning a custom sports car where Windows is like driving a Mustang off the lot. It's difficult to understand until you get to the point where you can fly through a CLI more efficiently than any GUI, reorganizing all of your files or searching through gigs of text files with a single line, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to learn to do that. I just hate it when Windows fags shit on anons like myself for using Linux when I didn't even really have a choice anyway because Win7 doesn't officially support my CPU architecture and I didn't want to bother with a pirated copy of an OS I don't like

>>16455672

Linux, from my unfortunate yet unavoidable experience since I refuse to use Win10, seemed to needlessly make things that are perfectly normal in Win7 difficult for no real reason. Seems like it's just a Dwarf Fortress thing, where you're so invested and consumed by the autism that you cannot imagine it any differently.

>>16455669

no.

>>16455714

There are good reasons, they just all happen to involve use cases you will probably never encounter as an average user. The one thing that is easier is updating your software though.

>>16455714

Out of interest, would you mind elaborating on those things that are made difficult for no reason?

I made the switch a while ago and while I also ran into problems I never found that it was due to something being done for no reason at all.

>>16455739

>>16455755

Yeah, installing programs in general seems like it could be easier, though if it's something that's not in one of those software managers, it's hit or miss. I had Mint and if I just wanted something from the internet with no native Mint build, occasionally the Ubuntu one would work, other times it needed workarounds. It did piss me off, though, that there is no real "executable" format. So with some programs, they'll have ten files with the gear icon, no filename and fuck knows which one the launcher is. Getting them to have an icon, too, required a workaround. I just want to have a setup where my most used programs are on my taskbar like Win7.

What I never understood were the severe file restrictions on any system files and directories. Needed to edit some settings, which in Windows is just opening a notepad and changing numbers, and it was an extra process on Mint. The defense I saw from Linuxfags was "well, you shouldn't be messing around with that anyway!", an excuse I'd expect to see from Windowsfags. I'd get it if Linux was trying to appeal more to people who were trying to switch, but why copy arbitrary restrictions from Win10 of all things, while not copying the good, convenient things?

>>16455515

><Use Linux

>>Can't play games

If you're retarded maybe.

>>16455594

>>16455611

>>16455618

Last time I tried running Windows games on Wine about 2 years ago, they worked, but ran like dogshit compared to Windows. Tried updating / changing drivers and messing with Linux / Wine settings, and only made it worse.

Considering the pace that freedumb software advances, I doubt things have significantly improved since then.

>>16455793

Try again, you're in for a surprise nigger.

>>16455795

Forgot, that's mostly due to proton, better opensource drivers, kernel shit and dxvk. dxvk is like holy water with a tad of crack in it. It's hard to compare it with the shit you had from 2 years ago.

>>16455611

>linux game support is better than it ever was

>stlil has to emulate windows.

yeah, naw.

>>16455774

I see, well the concept of managing programs is indeed quite a bit different though I don't really understand this in the case of mint aka a debain based distro since .deb files are the most common stand alone downloads you can find.

Btw the exe version on Linux is an ELF(executable, linkable file), granted this is the file type and not an extension ala .so for libraries. Desktop files are probably what you are looking for, they sorta act like shortcuts on windows.

Maybe trying something arch based with KDE could provide what you are looking for.

As for the permission stuff: This might seem annoying but it's made as a very clear line between what a user can and cannot do and that you have to knowingly elevate your priviliges to change important stuff.

>>16455811

It can be a comfy thing right up until you have to deal with your data as root or whole disks

>>16444164

Anybody got that collection of Madness Combat sounds? I seem to have misplaced the ZIP

>>16455774

I don't know what software you're installing, but every piece of software I've seen has a readme that at least tells you basic usage. If it doesn't have that, by all means please uninstall it; the maintainer is probably a lazy asshole.

>>16455793

Works on my machine :^)

In all seriousness, it depends entirely on the game. It could be as simple as checking a box in winecfg that will solve all your problems or you could end up doing shit like move graphics libraries from other games that work in Wine to make the other game work. Like I said, it isn't easy, I won't lie, but it is a free, stable and powerful OS.

>>16455808

"Wine is not an emulator" is not just a meme. It is literally an API.

>>16455594

>mute_anime_girl.png

>>16456232

>most monsters ever spawned at once

most active monsters*

>>16456232

Actually, no. Croteam was originally working on Doom 4 before the later teams; The reason they look so similar to DOOM enemies is because they ARE intended to be them. They had to be retooled for Serious Sam, so Croteam, not wanting to waste the work, recycled their unnamed military shooter and their DOOM 4 project into SS3.

>>16456232

>(using Tricks and Traps as reference).

And that's where you went wrong. Play MAP10, MAP16 or MAP18. Faggot

>>16456346

Hes probably using DXVK or something similar to that. It works amazingly well (For GNU/Linux) from my experience.

>>16455802

I admit Proton and dxvk look like pretty good advancements. I might take another look at it soon, then. Just a question, all I read about Proton seems to be associated with Steam/Steam Play, can I use it with pirated games?

>>16455985

>Works on my machine :^) (…)

I thought I had been clear on my previous post, most games worked without problems, the problem was the performance. They ran like shit compared to running natively on Windows, like half the fps or worse, or with massive occasional stuttering / frame drops that didn't happen on Windows.

demo recording retards

>>16456535

Playing back a demo recording aint gonna make it run any smoother, pal.

>>16444180

How do I obtain 800 gb of ram?

>>16456599

Use an SSD as swap space

>>16456573

you can set a demo to record to a video file at a designated framerate retardo

>>16455692

Honestly I really wish I could do something like Linux, but i'm so used to windows, that i'm scared I might fuck something up worse and then like brick my computer, I've seen of things in linux and thought some of the features, it's just I kind of want just something to work right away, plus so much of my stuff is windows only that I wouldn't know what to do when it comes to getting that to run.

>>16456677

look into linux mint. its ez mode linux and looks like w7

>>16456515

And my point was that I almost never have performance issues. My experience with Wine games is generally it works or it doesn't, and maybe 15% of the time it works with annoying issues that I have to troubleshoot, usually sound issues that involve me switching to ALSA.

>>16444382

>Who the fuck hired these retards and why do people praise their garbage?

Gameplay features are so lacking these days that taking a couple of steps in the right direction earns a 10/10 GOTYAY rating. You're going to see this happen every so often as the trend to scale back gameplay means that when reintroducing gameplay, that gives that gameplay novelty. This is the cycle of intentional mediocrity.

>>16456606

>Putting a framerate limit is gonna change the performance and make it run smooth

Based retard

>>16455515

Actually Win7 support isn't ending, didn't you get the memo? You'll have to pay though.

>>16455515

Just because support is ending doesn't mean it's useless. just means you can't call up paki support lines.

>>16455611

If you have to run an emulator to play a windows game properly then it's probably not worth the effort.

>>16457586

Yeah if you export a demo it literally does that. It's how devs do all kinds of things that aren't possible in real time.

>>16458052

Good thing Wine is not an emulator.

>>16456232

>There's a reason why the most monsters ever spawned at once in the original were less than 20

Max number of sprites was 128 and given the power of hardware the game would slow to a crawl before that limit was ever reached with enemy spawns. You're over glorifying the AI processes to determine what to do anyways, it's how object entities are handled by the engine which leads to severe issues if it's not done correctly.

>>16444180

Fuck. Was planning to upgrade from a FX-6300 to a Ryzen 3. Is it good still?

>>16463172

get at least 2nd gen ryzen, keep in mind intel is literally fucked right now.

>>16463175

Which one? The 2300?