ef39e8 No.16358015
>Get the TF2 1.0.1.8 port to see if I may can host a gamenight for it
>Install one of my favorite classic community-made maps: cp_redfort
>Try it
>Looks like this
Fuck, is there anything I can do to still make it work? I really want to play this map in particular.
ef39e8 No.16358041
>>16358025
But TF2V is discord circlejerk garbage, it also adds non-stock weapons, pyro can airblast, all kinds of bullshit. I just want all stock without any of the bullshit added in later updates, the way the game was meant to be.
ef39e8 No.16358058
>>16358054
Still, playing it supports Discord faggots and I don't want to do that.
a3e7f1 No.16358087
>>16358025
Discord circlejerk that doesn't even attempt to recreate classic TF2
>Add current stats to older weapons
>Puts in post-mannconomy shit
>Adds shit that was never even in the fucking game like gunboats for Demoman
It's dogshit, now give OP a proper answer to his question, fag.
455a6b No.16358100
>>16358025
>TORpedo recommends discord circlejerk trash
like clockwork. Will be lurking this thread, interested in playing old TF2 myself.
455a6b No.16358109
>>16358106
You sound like someone who actually knows what they're talking about unlike our turbonigger over here, so ill ask, do you know if it's possible to setup the earliest-ish build of tf2 with bots? I'd like to play when gamenights aren't possible/go full gabe newell and regularly play against bots.
08bda0 No.16358131
>>16358087
>gunboats for demoman
Wouldn't that be a bit overpowered?
02db0e No.16358135
I miss the comfy day of orange box on the 360, and modded small community servers on pc back before the mannconomy
9ee96c No.16358293
>>16358135
>>16358015
>Believing in ‘2007 TF2 is best TF2’ rhetoric
Holy fuck i can’t believe there are people who are either too naive to believe in someone else’s nostalgia lense or they are too contrarian to even deny that.
>>16358025
>>16358054
>Tornigger shilling TF2V
How about no you fucking dip, you dumb lot got a second chance to make TF2C right and yet you blew it.
57133b No.16358322
I've been asking this over a few threads. What exactly changed in TF2 in between MvM and now?
I had quit because I needed a small break from the game, then my HDD failed and I couldn't be bothered redownloading all that shit again. Has something truly changed for the worse, or is it just more hats and shit?
57133b No.16358333
>>16358329
Depending on the weapon balances that doesn't sound particularly bad. I was usually indifferent to hats.
9bfbde No.16358354
>>16358106
>scream when things don't go your way
>people don't want to put up with your shit
>somehow the people who don't want to deal with you retards are the bad guys
The development of "community" for that shit is "gated" because you autists kept screeching because you couldn't treat every aspect of it how you wanted instead of trying to let those guys have a clean public face while you're allowed to run loose because "not our problem".
anon projects are always doomed to fail because everytime I've watched them come they always go because some retards chase them off for not doing everything the way THEY want. Doesn't help vintage shot itself in the foot with adding shit ONTOP of having the perpetually assmad autists from TF2C
>>16358087
Gunboats shit is leftover from TF2C and was THEIR doing.
>>16358293
Gotta agree, why add fucking mannconomy weapons and shit like the warrior's spirit? for fucks sake it was close to perfect they just had to add the shit from pre-mannconomy, remove the shitty tie-in weapons and be done.
57133b No.16358641
>20 gigs
Is it worth it? I want to rocket jump again. I want to force of nature people off cliffs again. I want to play a multiplayer FPS in the first place again.
86df02 No.16358706
2007 TF2 was pretty based, except for the glitches that team roomba and goroncity exploited and not being able to move your buildings after placing them, its pretty good. i dont get why its so hard to just get 2007 TF2 and make it run well with working multiplayer without runining it by adding tonnes of shit no one asked for giving yourself more work.
>>16358641
good luck, you'll either be in a team of retards against competent people or vice versa, community servers suck ass, strangely the furrypound and other meme name servers are the best way to experience TF2 nowadays.
ad766b No.16358750
>>16358706
>you'll either be in a team of retards against competent people or vice versa
Fairly sure this was always the case since the F2P update, but good players always had a habit of showing themselves eventually. Why do community servers suck now?
86df02 No.16358757
>>16358750
>why do community servers suck now
Most of them are trade, idle or achievement servers, the rest are just circlejerks with powertripping admins, meme maps, full of friendly heavies and other gay shit, but what makes it even worse is all the e-celeb and discord shit that goes on, the amount of fags getting asspained about le random crits is at a all time high, but no complaining when they get them ofcourse. doesnt help the fact that alot of people try to copy e-celebs like that dane faggot
ad766b No.16358762
>>16358757
Those servers used to be a rarity when I used to play. I take it with Discord that is no longer the case? Can't I just power through this shit if all I want to do is have fun playing regular payload matches?
>that dane faggot
Which one?
9560a2 No.16358772
>>16358641
Go for it, the game is still decent. Play on Valve servers for a normal experience and join another game if it's a bad match, community servers are pretty ass right now.
ef39e8 No.16358811
Sorry for taking so long, I was sleeping.
>>16358106
>cp_redfort uses materials and models not found in 2007 era TF2. You would have to pack ALL the new models into it.
Well fuck.
>Just download some old custom maps and/or play the stock ones.
I will download some 2007 custom maps but I wouldn't play the stock ones only, there's not variety between them in this version.
Speaking of maps, what should the map rotation be like in the case of stock maps? I'll put some community made ones in there to spice things up a little
38c0e3 No.16358824
>>16358293
Vanilla TF2 + Payload/Payload Races + a bunch of features released later on that didn't impact unlocks or other bizarre shit + MVM is the way to go
I still can't believe you can't play as the robots in the game despite there being RED skins for them, imo a cool TF2V mod would be to change bots' skins to the robot ones so you know who's a human and who isn't
>>16358762
Some Engineer spastic who thinks he's got the solution to every TF2 problem, but he makes some high quality content every once in a while and he's not too serious.
TF2 created way too many e-celebs
ef39e8 No.16358840
>>16358824
>Payload/Payload Races
>MVM
But those are dogshit, Payload is one of the most unfun modes I have ever played in an FPS, Payload Race just devolves into TDM and MVM gets boring after two minutes.
86df02 No.16358909
>>16358757
you know the guy that constantly complains about muh random crits and then gives his shit suggestions on how the game can be "fixed" to better suit competitive play?
Basically a reddit stooge that TF2 devs might take into consideration when updating the game runining it further
9ee96c No.16359206
>>16358824
>Vanilla TF2 + Payload/Payload Races + a bunch of features released later on that didn't impact unlocks or other bizarre shit + MVM is the way to go.
Aye, a man a culture ain’t cha? But yeah, it’s jarring that MvM has no fucking gamemode where you are in charge of attacking their base. It’s even easier to implement it too, since they are robots, they can just be set on pre-planned routes until someone gets spotted and then they all rush onto the attacker. This way, spy gets to have a more pivotal role in disabling the defenses.
>>16358840
You’re not wrong on Payload Race being dogshit, but i wish the community already made a superior version of Payload Race aka Balloon Race, but alas barely anyone is fucking playing them right now. Payload is alright though, it’s just Attack / Defense but the control point is moving.
>>16358762
Dane is what >>16358909 describes.
>e-celeb
>thinks his opinion have a higher value than anyone else’s
>virtue-signals his ‘totally balanced ideas’ becaus he plays engy alot
>his followers are just as worse as him
If that doesn’t describe anyone who follows a redditor then what else? He’s also of the same ilk as some other whiny TF2 jewtubers such as Funke who wants TF2 into the next e-sport sensation like Smash Bros Melee. The fact that some e-celeb that faked his death and came back to be shat on ‘for dying’ speaks volumes at how huge the faggotry that is TF2 ecelebs.
906626 No.16359267
>>16358041
>doesn't want Pyro to have airblast
>likes redfort
Shit taste mate.
2be6f0 No.16359333
>>16358333
They started pandering to gullible children that spend all day sucking eCeleb cock and complaining about any class that they don't 'main', so old ass weapons like the Ambassador and the Sandman got nerfed into the ground and Sniper as a class is next on the chopping block because "Pick classes bad! I should be able to stomp any server with my Medic butt-buddy because i'm a Soldier main!"
38c0e3 No.16359368
>>16358840
The problem with Payload races is that they absolutely wanted to have intersections, which slow down the game a lot and even bug out the payloads frequently.
Payload as a mode is pretty good because it's like control points but you get to move around while getting healed and replenished instead of just standing still for ten seconds hoping no one else comes to you in the mean time.
MvM is terrible because of the bots and the absolutely broken mechanics of upgrading and getting money back. If they didn't integrate them physically in the game and just tiered them to basically assisting your team towards victory, you wouldn't need a dedicated Scout or Spy just to gather resources.
ad766b No.16359623
I guess I'm waiting until the end of the month to decide. Thank you for the recommendations, anons.
a3e7f1 No.16360050
>>16359267
>>doesn't want Pyro to have airblast
Airblast is bullshit and nothing good ever came out of it, it created puff n sting and the reserve shooter bullshit. Even with all stock it's still shit.
>>likes redfort
What is wrong with redfort?
ef39e8 No.16360059
>>16359368
>Payload as a mode is pretty good because it's like control points but you get to move around while getting healed and replenished instead of just standing still for ten seconds hoping no one else comes to you in the mean time.
I never really liked it, being on BLU in that mode is just suffering to me
dc7079 No.16360076
back in my day Team Fortress was a Quake mod that sucked in comparison to Threewave's CTF mod. and we didn't like it that way back then either.
ef39e8 No.16360086
>>16360076
>>16360076
>Threewave's CTF
Played that back in the day, still preferred TF
c58011 No.16360096
Figure out what props and textures are missing.
Add it to your materials and models folders, either as an addon in the addons/custom folder, or in your main folders.
>spudlet trying to play really out of date tf2 to impress other spudlets
>can't even troubleshoot missing models in source
c58011 No.16360115
Alternatively you stupid faggot
Why don't you decompile and retrofit the map in hammer, or is that too complicated for you?
ef39e8 No.16360134
>>16360096
>>16360115
Why are you so angry?
Thanks for the advice, though.
ad766b No.16360180
How bad is the eceleb faggotry though? I tried looking around for it and the worst I could find was some unfunny fuck going FUNNY CLASS STEREOTYPES except none of the videos were actually funny and they all wasted a minute for an intro that was a "disclaimer this is actually supposed to be comedy so if this hurts your fee fee don't be angry I respect you" shit.
There was some guy who made videos about why he likes a class coupled with some neat SFM videos.
>>16360059
I always found BLU more fun. There was something super satisfying about breaking through REDs defenses.
c58011 No.16360200
>>16360134
Because you are stupid
068ad5 No.16360206
>>16360134
don't mind him, he's a nu-TF2 queer
7ba13c No.16360241
>still no 2010 pre-Mannconomy TF2 available for download
>there was an old build of 2010 years ago when the update first shipped but it's fallen off the radar and can't be found since the Steam Forums were discontinued
a620e4 No.16360283
>>16360241
Why not just join/host a stock only server in regular ass tf2? inb4 muh game size
e2e75b No.16360324
>>16358087
>>16358041
>>16358100
>>16358293
Why not just play an older version of TF2V?
b10822 No.16360340
>>16360324
Wrong question. Right question would be "Why not just host a server in TF2V with stock enforced?" or "Why not just occupy a TF2V server and vote for stock only until everybody quits?"
e2e75b No.16360682
>>16360340
Are passwords allowed in TF2V?
Have a passworded server with stock only, simple as that I guess?
7ba13c No.16360804
>>16360283
because I don't want stock but I also don't want the rest of the bloat current TF2 has. Post-Engineer Update felt complete
f525bd No.16360946
455a6b No.16360985
>>16360283
>>16360324
>>16360340
whats with all the sudden vintage shilling? fuck off faggots if you knew what you were talking about you'd know why it was never an option
200fee No.16360993
I have been completely convinced by community mods like tf2c/v that the very reason valve doesn't update tf2 is because even the core audience doesn't know exactly what they want.
They tried with competitive because a very loud vocal minority scretched for it, but now that we got it everyone with a brain has come out of the wood work to complain about it.
tf2c and tf2v were supposed to be a tf2 that valve couldn't make, but instead of sticking with a clear goal they've decided to fuck over any clear design for memes, and when people complain they blame the audience for not getting the joke or something along those lines
They are scared of touching something like tf2 because it's a radioactive item they got, one wrong step and you'll set off nuclear winter.
2b9d64 No.16361518
>>16360993
Deathmatch FPS's are all the same, it's just various forms of crack. pupg, battlefield, cod, tf2, same shit. The only good about them is mods, they're all terrible otherwise.
557e35 No.16361979
>>16360050
>Airblast is bullshit and nothing good ever came out of it
Wrong you fuckign nigger, Airblast means that Pyro could effectively (in theory) shut down soldiers and demos because the pyro could reflect their main source of damage back into them. Reflecting projectiles in of itself is no easy feat, as it requires precise timing and aiming to redirect projectiles. Think of it as ripostes in Bloodborne but you have to aim properly. This means that the pyro has a whole new dimension of gameplay mechanics to play with and extends the skill ceiling of the class.
>it created puff n sting and the reserve shooter bullshit.
That's the fault of the unlocks you shrimp-brained twat, while the Pyro can do knockback, the airblast itself does zero damage and there are barely any places that it could be abused by the Pyro.
>Even with all stock it's still shit.
I'd argue you're dumb gorilla nigger who likes clicking M1 and moving forward. No wonder you get bodied by soldiers and demos on a day to day basis.
4e127e No.16361982
>>16361979
>no escape.jpg
Have they made it clearer that Pyros can extinguish allies yet? I cannot count how many times I died from afterburn while a pyro waltzed away without a care in the world.
1531b2 No.16361986
>>16361979
>Reflecting projectiles in of itself is no easy feat, as it requires precise timing and aiming to redirect projectiles.
You have quite a bit of frames to deflect rockets bro, it's actually pretty forgiving. The only difficulty comes from having to do it in the heat of combat but its not really that precise.
381077 No.16362010
>>16361979
>it's like BB
Nah it's more like you're playing in shit covered molasses and when you commit and action you slip on a little bit of cum mixed with fruit punch.
TF2 is shit fuck you.
02db0e No.16362123
>>16358293
anon I miss those times because they were better, not because someone else does
86df02 No.16362245
>>16359206
some e-celeb faked their own death? wich one?
7deaf8 No.16362250
86df02 No.16362280
>>16362250
so a guy doesnt want to be doing his TF2 shit all the time and faggots sperg out? Typical of the nu-TF2 community and e-celebs to go apeshit and cause massive drama over nothing
ac6855 No.16362315
It’s kind of telling how even in spite of how bad post-Mannconomy TF2 got, people are still playing it over games like Overwatch.
Remember when OW was the TF2-killer? Now look at it. It’s bleeding players out the ass.
I feel that you can’t really replicate what made Team Fortress 2 so fucking great. There’s a reason why, even almost twelve years later when major updates have all but stopped, people are still playing it. TF2 had a personality and aesthetic and a general feel to it that no game has ever quite come close to.
05ba8e No.16362334
>>16362315
The real TF2 killer is Apex Legends. Get ready to see a TF2 update where they had a battle royale mode.
c4a464 No.16362360
>>16361982
>I cannot count how many times I died from afterburn while a pyro waltzed away without a care in the world.
I cannot count how many times I've seen a teammate die from afterburn because they were running away from me while I'm chasing after them and airblasting frantically like it's a fucking Benny Hill skit.
4e127e No.16362377
>>16362360
WOW FUCKING W+M2 PYRO I BET YOUR'RE ARE F2P UNINSTALL THIS GAME PAL
906626 No.16363866
>>16360050
>nothing good ever came out of it
Rocket-reflect jump is pretty cool, reflect in general creates a lot of amusing outcomes.
> it created puff n sting
No, using airblast during a puff n sting combo is entirely optional
> and the reserve shooter bullshit
Reserve shooter was bullshit so I'll give you that.
Question there would be what the fuck would you do with Pyro if you don't want him to have airblast? You couldn't possibly suggest bringing him back to his 2007 self where it is pretty much unanimously agreed that he was beyond useless. It's ridiculous enough that so many people complain about what has pretty much always been (bar a few broken weapons) one of the weakest classes in the game.
>What is wrong with redfort?
I remember 3rd control point being hell to attack. But really attack/defense sucks in general, things just tend to get really spammy when everyone is in the same place, just ends up being a question of the attacking team standing back until they have ubers which gets really tedious.
262242 No.16363892
>>16362360
that's kind of understandable as most pyro players won't do shit to save burning teammates, creating the scenario you described.
906626 No.16364063
>>16363892
Says a lot about them if they are too incompetent to hear the airblasting sound from behind them though. Chances are they're the same players who don't put people out when they are pyro, simply because they don't know that airblast can do that.
e2e75b No.16364086
>>16360985
I played tf2v with /v/ a few years ago and everyone was fine with it back then.
What happened?
Why cant we just play that specific version that everyone was fine with if you hate the current stuff about it?
Or are you guys just looking for more things to be mad about?
200fee No.16364099
>>16364086
I played tf2c with /v/ a few years ago and everyone was fine with it back then.
What happened?
Why cant we just play that specific version that everyone was fine with if you hate the current stuff about it?
Or are you guys just looking for more things to be mad about?
2be6f0 No.16364111
At least we can always laugh at Jason Grant.
243529 No.16364116
>>16363866
Even with shit like puff n sting pyro needed get up in your face to do things soldier and demoman could do at medium range. It's absurd how many people get assblasted over a close range class with shit range and subpar mobility being allowed to hit harder than a wet noodle at close range.
4e127e No.16365458
Why did people even bitch about the back burner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it give back-crits by trading off like twice the amount of ammo for airblasts and around 20% base damage? That weapon gave me some great pyro ambushing habits and as a nice bonus not many players expect a backburner pyro to airblast.
86df02 No.16365474
>>16364111
>generic weebfag making fun of a furfag for being degenerate
03bee6 No.16365505
>>16365474
All Furries are worse than most weebs. I'll take the lesser of two evils.
c83480 No.16365506
>>16358015
Looks fine to me, dood.
e025f0 No.16365513
>>16365474
Furries rape animals, goon.
963d2b No.16365514
>>16365505
What about human pups?
e025f0 No.16365522
>>16365514
>son commits suicide after dad dies
4e127e No.16365557
>>16365514
>His mothers eyes
LOL?
e025f0 No.16365563
>>16365557
>After the funeral services
>"Are we really doing this"
86df02 No.16365614
>>16365505
i'll take neither
>>16365513
I dont care about animals or your whataboutism
e025f0 No.16365749
>>16365614
>your whataboutism
You started with the comparison, goon.
86df02 No.16365812
>>16365749
Whataboutism and comparrisons are 2 different things you stupit nigger, and i didnt make a comparrison, a weebfag shouldnt shit on a furfag for being a degenerate when he himself is also a degenerate, its irony, not a comparrison you illeterate nigger
ac2b4b No.16365825
>>16365514
>do this shit right after the funeral
9bfbde No.16366065
>>16360324
Just leech off TF2V the project is open source still. At least they didn't fuck THAT up.
https://github.com/bachingo/TF2Vintage
Just strip out the gay shit
8692cf No.16366196
>>16360993
could be that competitive mode is shit trying to aim at the extreme smash-level fags like pick related that think only they their own autistic banlist version is truly "competitive". the bigger majority of ppl probably just wanted a more structured progression with a shitty bar to grind to have a number on your account like OW (because how else do people now how MLG PR0 you are?).
the other reason for not meaningful updates is that technically the game is fucking mess, but due to the huge amount of hats and shit and all the money people have in the game they can't even update it to source2 since they would have to port it all over, and that's such a huge undertaking they don't even know where to start.
I just want a fucking proper tfc port, fuck hats and everything that came afterwards
>>16362334
>Apex Legends
>killing anything but itself
86df02 No.16366201
>>16366196
>censored names
Why do they always do this?
a4a24d No.16366236
>>16365812
>stupit
>comparrisons
>didnt
>i
>shouldnt
>its
<illeterate
86df02 No.16366436
>>16366236
i knew it, putting more mistakes in your writing and using shit grammer makes people read your post more, than proper grammar!
ef39e8 No.16369822
>>16360115
Alright I decompiled, how do I 'retrofit'?
2d08ff No.16373569
Tell me more horror stories about TF2 competitive mode. I've been watching some nigger's stream highlights and I'm relishing in how asshurt people seem to get at consistent sniper headshots and how he wasn't using the kosher META items. This is exactly what I fucking fear is going to happen with any game and of course it's the match making shitshow that makes it happen.
why is captcha fucking up again? I'm sick of this shit
86df02 No.16375249
>>16373569
>why is captcha fucking up again? I'm sick of this shit
CIA niggers running their operation at maximum, along with the JIDF shitposting everything to oblivion
ef39e8 No.16377910
OP here, I am now busy setting up the server, I have given up on cp_redfort but installed a couple other maps instead like cp_frontline and ctf_convoy.
ef39e8 No.16377917
Okay, ran into some trouble. SteamCMD says I that my internet is not working. I am pretty sure this is because I'm using a VPN. Is there any way to get around this? Is the VPN I use just shit? I use SafeIP.
710612 No.16377999
>>16365474
Worse part is he was a trapfag who only liked traps. Normal men where too gay for him, especially BEARS. Shota link was his favorite!
3ead9b No.16378011
>>16364111
Why did we stop playing TF2C? The deathmatch mode was fun as shit
710612 No.16378028
>>16378011
It's been discussed to death a million times.
3ead9b No.16378039
>>16378028
I know the devs are pretty big dickeads, but that doesn't ruin my enjoyment. Gabe being a greedy jew faggot doesn't make me suddenly hate Half-Life
400360 No.16378043
Why won't Valve just make an official classic mode
fuck
3ead9b No.16378048
>>16378043
They will fuck it up somehow
6ab9a7 No.16378323
>>16378048
How could they possibly fuck it up?
400360 No.16378602
>>16378323
>killstreaks and cosmetics still allowed
>changes like the Pyro's airblast at the Demo nerfs still apply
>basically acts like a stock weapon mode
e742fe No.16381449
I've got to be honest, I'm still really itching to play TF2 and I have no idea what has changed in the past 8 years.
>>16378602
Killstreaks? Was that something post MvM? Did it give any bonuses or was it just more to the IS DOMINATING/FISH KILL type of thing?
4de92d No.16381818
>>16381449
>I'm still really itching to play TF2 and I have no idea what has changed in the past 8 years.
know that feel, installed it again and was greeted by a main-menu that rivals the AOL interface from the mid-90s, complete with it's speed.
e742fe No.16381961
>>16381818
Okay, but a menu isn't exactly reason enough to not want to play TF2. What else?
2a341c No.16382048
>>16358019
you forgot to sage
21dadf No.16382069
>>16381449
Killstreaks are a property on an item you have equipped that add a visual effect to you once you have enough kills in one life, and the intensity of the effect goes up every 5 kills until about 20.
A similar feature would be the Demoman's eye-glow as he acquires more heads.
21dadf No.16382153
>>16382069
Forgot to mention it only applies to weapons and kills made with that weapon. You can have up to 3 going at once but to become maximum cancer requires 20 kills with each of those weapons.
e742fe No.16382156
>>16382069
Cosemetics never bothered me. Are there any outright terrible gameplay changes, or should I take the plunge?
21dadf No.16382292
>>16382156
I haven't played in years since around the time killstreaks were added, the most I know of is that they added Matchmaking and community servers are more or less dead except for shit like skial and furrypound.
400360 No.16382665
>>16382292
I've heard community servers are dead now, what happened to them?
400360 No.16382668
Hey, do you guys want to be annoyed by Valve's incompetence?
Of course you do
VNN just broke a story that Adult Swim had a deal with Valve to to produce a 12-episode season of a TF2 show. Valve was also planning a full TF2 movie.
Considering [as] were the ones who approached Valve, Valve assumed they had a lot of the authority on this deal. The deal had a lot of guides on what [as] accepts and a lot of hard deadlines for Valve. One such rule was an 11-minute run time for each episode with room for a 4-minute ad break in-between.
Valve, either through hubris or genuine ignorance of how television works, ignored all of this and made a continuous 20-minute pilot episode with no ad spaces instead.
The higher-ups at [as] told Valve they needed to cut 9 minutes off the episode. Valve again ignored this and continued developing their 20-minute pilot. [as] kept telling them they literally could not afford to air their pilot in its current state. Valve continued ignoring them.
In fact, Valve ignored them for several months, missing every single deadline set out in their deal; never wavering on their oversized pilot.
By the time the season was meant to be announced and scheduled, Valve hadn't even finished the pilot. Even if they had, [as] wouldn't have been able to air it.
The higher-ups at [as], shocked at Valve's utter incompetence at completing even a single episode in time and under the agreed guidelines, cancelled the deal.
I'd like to remind you that even procrastinator extraordinaire Sam Hyde and his friends were able to get a season out for [as] in time, AND THAT INCLUDES AN ENTIRELY SCRAPPED SHOW THEY MADE BEFOREHAND WITH ITS OWN 11-MINUTE PILOT. Valve with its some 360 employees couldn't do this.
dcd4a0 No.16382712
>>16382668
>By the time the season was meant to be announced and scheduled, Valve hadn't even finished the pilot.
Valve Time is a very real thing, their flat management means nobody has any real accountability. They probably expected they could get it done "whenever" and it would be fine.
9e98b2 No.16382724
>>16382668
How does this company even function? They can't seem to finish a single one of their projects.
21dadf No.16382744
>>16382665
Matchmaking means every retard just queues for a match instead of looking for a server to join.
e742fe No.16382790
>>16382744
Yeah but doesn't that mean they'll just join any random server, like it used to be? I recall back in 2010, maybe earlier, there was some sort of "quick play" option that threw you in any server, sometimes it put you in those servers that immediately spawns bots the second you join a team, but it usually just placed you in mod-less servers. Or am I remembering this stuff wrong?
a620e4 No.16382802
>>16382790
Now you only get valve servers, which literally shut down and reset every game.
fa6b63 No.16382855
>>16362123
That was a time where everyone was new to the game and we hadn't yet figured out all of the bad shit that was lying beneath the surface of release TF2. That time, that community, that zeitgeist has come and passed and you can't bring it back by just reverting to an older patch, you need to get over it already.
fe1c59 No.16382939
>>16381961
the menu just brought back all the repressed memories what a technical clusterfuck the game still is and how shit the community has become (in part due to valve being retarded).
couldn't really bother with it afterwards.
>>16382724
> their projects.
which ones? half-cooked steam features that get abandoned right after release or games that only release if enough people care enough about it and/or are high enough in the food chain?
otoh they fund shit like proton, devs to improve linux gpu driver stack and vr, so I don't really care if they can't count to 3 or put a music player in steam with less features than realplayer
906626 No.16382941
>>16382668
We've known about the fallen through [as] deal for some time now. Expiration Date was supposed to have been an episode. Guess this might be the first time we're hearing about the exact details of Valve's incompetence though. We had already gathered that it was because they can't keep to a damn schedule.
400360 No.16382948
>>16382941
I know the deal itself has been public knowledge for years now, but the reason it was canned was unknown. Valve not being able to produce a single episode after months is nothing short of embarrassing.
e742fe No.16383102
>>16382941
>Expiration date
If burch wasn't the VA for pauling, and if Pauling had her original design, I'd like it more.
400360 No.16383176
>>16383102
She was actually one of the writers originally.
e742fe No.16383239
>>16383176
I don't really care, I despise her as a VA since she has the same exact voice every time.
906626 No.16385582
>>16382948
>but the reason it was canned was unknown
We've known that it was because of Valve's incompetence.
e839ed No.16386090
>>16385582
>We've known that it was because of Valve's incompetence.
We know more details than that. T
ons of former employees all say the same thing. The company is full of has-been's with gigantic ego's who only stay in the company to stroke their cock. These people are multi-millionaires and have more than enough money to retire, but refuse. They also pretty much control the company since they're buddy's with HR or whatever valve's equivalent is. They refuse to make any game because their ego's are too big to join someone else's project, and the system in place doesn't really reward you for making games anyways. They also try to recruit big names in the game industry and then shelve them just so they have something else to brag about. The only thing anyone there cares about anymore is their ego and how many shares/dosh they gain each year, and they go around trying to lure other successful people in. It's like the boomer virus incarnated.