bf5db7 No.16357078
I don't get it.
I'm bored out of my mind. Why is this game so highly regarded?
d3e68e No.16357090
Because shills got paid to, and even more people do it for free.
da302b No.16357114
>>16357078
what did you expect, and what do you want out of your games?
8614bb No.16357143
>>16357078
I was thinking of getting it, but it just seems like your average open world - rpg element - stealth - action - waypoint marker - crafting game that every other game is now. But oddly enough all the people here speak of the game favorably, saying that not only is this game good, but the devs are good too. But I haven't seen anyone actually explain what separates it from every other game in the same vein. Is it even worth picking up?
35e855 No.16357149
Same thing goes with Breath of the Wild. It's boring as fuck, but normalfaggots loved it. Why.
c4febc No.16357161
66a64b No.16357204
Watered down garbage made to appeal to the broadest demographic.
9317a3 No.16357212
>>16357078
it was up against Dragon Age 3. I think at this point we'll laud an okay game over the complete tripe
1a3531 No.16357221
>>16357078
It just isn't your bag, baby. I thought it was pretty good. I don't really like RPGs though, so It appealed to me since it was a simple action game with a little rpgish spice on top.
eaeedd No.16357227
52e86d No.16357235
Main quest sucks. Some of the side quests are really good along with the expansions.
1a3531 No.16357242
>>16357235
DLC was damn good. Heart of Stone in particular.
e93d56 No.16357251
>>16357149
>Same thing goes with Breath of the Wild.
No it doesn't.
3ffa4a No.16357265
>>16357078
Yeah, it's really a mediocre game. Combat is kinda crap, not much about it stands out, but it's kinda fun to romp through the wilds and hunt monsters, and many quests aren't bad either.
>>16357242
>>16357235
Expansions actually put thought into the world itself – everything tied into everything (most things actually had a minor quest tied to them) such as the murder plants ruining the vineyards, bandits having a main hideout, and there were often refferences to stuff in the places you visited, further tying things to the world itself. It was so much better than the randomly strewn points of interest in the main game that had no relevance to anything and were just there for the sake of being there. Had the main game took as much care in its world design as the Blood and Wine expansion, it'd be a pretty good RPG.
e93d56 No.16357279
>>16357274
Wind waker was a good game
5cfd16 No.16357283
>>16357143
>waypoint marker
There lies the element to kill nearly all open world RPGs. No other element can completely remove the sense of exploration and accomplishment.
61dea9 No.16357289
>>16357078
Pretty much what >>16357204 said. It also suffers from the worst aspects of open world and RPG gameplay. The combat is brain-dead simple (attack, counter/dodge, attack, use gimmick spell/bomb/oil that enemy is weak against to weaken/kill it, attack, use potion to heal or buff yourself, rinse and repeat), the exploration and quests are only good for finding crafting materials and items that are leveled (which end up being useless by the time you get to said level it requires since you find better gear later on (the various witcher school gear, which is the only worthwhile gear to use)), the crafting system has been gutted to hell from what it was in the first game ( instead of needing to get ingredients from the world to replenish your potion, bomb, and oil stock, you only need the materials once, then all you need afterwards is a strong alcohol when meditating. this makes autistic gathering of materials pointless when the game overloads you with gathering points). That's not including the graphical downgrade the game had during development that the devs vehemently denied until weeks after release. The only thing it has going for it or felt like most effort was put into is the side quests and other story parts. If they were going to put more effort into the story, they may as well have either made a movie or a visual novel with different outcomes rather than make a mediocre action game.
03a4cc No.16357296
Because it went for the open world meme
3d3b74 No.16357302
The gameplay is terrible, the enemies cheat, Geralt moves like a fridge on rollerskates, the world is generic fantasy world, the exploration is awful since shit pops in on your minimap when you're within ten miles of it, and you have bamham detective vision, the storyline is alright, I guess, but I'm not going to power through terrible everything else for some storyline. And worst of all, it's not even an RPG. You're always Geralt. You're either nice helpful Geralt, or emotionless Geralt. And worst of fucking all, the voice acting is terrible, and you basically have to play the game in Polish or Russian.
1af444 No.16357318
It took me three tries to get into it. Then i did the Bloody Barons Family Matters questline and it clicked for me. The main story is dull as dicks but the monster hunting side quests are some good medieval CSI bullshit i can get behind.
1af444 No.16357326
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16357318
This video in particular is what made me give the game a third chance.
36325b No.16357336
>>16357078
*slash* *slash* *spin-slash*
Yeah, ok. Third game in and they didn't improve on the combat at all.
Call it an RPG, you can only play as a Witcher. What?
Hype it as larger than TES: Skyrim, 4 years prior to release, play it and it's cut into 5~ instanced maps.
Beautiful landscapes I want to spend all day exploring, except the UI is console baby tier garbage, that ruins any hint at immersion.
Bioware tier relationships.
Mass Effect 3, tie-in questions to the previous game. Can't even read my save file or memory card eh? Wait, what are those?
Bored after the first area. Uninstalled 3 years ago and never felt the need to play again.
>mfw I can't force myself to play the most highly praised fantasy game in recent years when it has been my lifelong favorite genre of fiction.
776cd5 No.16357353
Just play Hearts of Stone and maybe Blood and Wine. The main quest was pretty trash, only the side stuff was good
bbc2c9 No.16357432
>>16357251
agreed, botw is a shitty ubisoft-tier open world grinder
e4c2da No.16357436
Witcher 3, hell all three games, are games that I shouldn't like as much as I do. They are all heavily flawed but they are also all fantastic, yet shouldn't be. I can't explain it. Other AAA games do the same things as Witcher 3 and I don't care for them but I can forgive all of Witcher 3's setbacks. Maybe I'm just a fanboy of the games.
1af444 No.16357439
>>16357432
>The game was originally a Minish Cap sequel with tiny towns and shrinking mechanics but it was all scrapped "because the west wants skyrim"
I'm still mad.
084ac7 No.16357449
>>16357078
>I'm bored out of my mind. Why is this game so highly regarded?
I am trying to get thru the first one. Fantasy, in general, is so lame. Perhaps people like flushed out environments and tactical mouse clicks.
be080a No.16357455
I just wanna know why CDPR struggles with making good combat. It's some of the worst combat around. Even Bethshit is better and Bethshit is horrendous.
1af444 No.16357466
>>16357449
The first one is objective trash don't let anyone fool you on that one.
be080a No.16357479
>>16357466
Yeah. None of the Witcher games are good. TW1 is a joke with how long it is. The writing is painfully reddit too. Every scenario is hamfisted as fuck with every moral choice being spelled out to you as plainly as possible, they all go down the same way.
7b497a No.16357500
>>16357353
>The main quest was pretty trash
interestingly enough that's true for the books as well
the main line of books is fucking terrible, but the short story spin offs are amazing
9d75cc No.16357503
It's a fun game it is full of content it's story was great Depending on play style Lots of exploration Trees blew around water was pretty watery If you played the game and read all the in game lore it was really interesting if you took your time most Npcs had their roll to play if you like dark twisted fantasy it was great ….most importantly
It came out at a time where most games Just said fuck the player lets sell them a full priced game with no content and Charge them for Extras this game was great and has 400 hours of play time and did it without shady business practices it was a breath of fresh air and a memorable experience and takes skill and patience to master everything it has to offer the difficulty is all in the settings menu
You don't scratch the surface for 30 hours in
d53183 No.16357504
>>16357149
BoTW isn't even a real Zelda game. TES:Hyrule Edition.
da302b No.16357506
>OP is a one and done nigger
well well what a surprise
d53183 No.16357511
>>16357336
>call it an RPG
<you can only play as wizard
WUT
326055 No.16357542
>>16357149
BotW is a cool unfinished tech demo that isn't really great as a game but it does certain things much better than anything else which just makes you wish they had actually finished it. In that way (and others) it is very similar to Dragon's Dogma. They aren't amazing games, but they could and should have been.
The Witcher 3 on the other hand doesn't really do anything special, apparently people's standards have fallen so low that having above average graphics and tolerable writing is now considered a GOTY-tier accomplishment. And it's not like games now in general are any worse than older games, there's a lot of great indie games but RPGs now get excused for having awful gameplay and no roleplaying.
36325b No.16357728
>>16357511
The beginning of the watered down RPG? At least the spirit of RPGs were present in games like that and not some marketing ploy.
Witcher series as an RPG doesn't fit. It's a simple action/adventure game.
They didn't even figure out a decent combat system. Shit is as basic as an old arcade machine game. Hook up a 4 button controller and you could still beat this drek.
5e17c1 No.16357798
fb0c8a No.16357818
>>16357798
that's four words at most though.
5b4713 No.16357847
>>16357336
You can't make RPG on a video game.
An RPG by it's very nature is too fucking vast to be made by code monkey that HAVE to limit the scope of it. At best they can sort of give you a decent impression it's an RPG (but it's not) by being godly railroading masters (and the reason why most of those are old is because the guys that made them had proper GMing experience beforehand, and text based role playing could allow for a shitload of text).
The Witcher series to me is the proper compromise.
You don't get to choose. You play the pre-made char Geralt, with his extensive backstory, his decent skills from the get go and you do a quick pre-made campaign with him, like the kind you do to test a new game/system.
The only thing that really matter is the choices you make during the questing, those choices impact the world/campaign dynamically.
And that's it.
It's terribly dumbed down but it's the right amount design wise that a vidya should have, because more is gonna be the fucking Russian roulette.
The real problem of the Witcher is that the gameplay part which should be the bread and butter, with the story/choice/impact/exploration being the meaty bits of the game is MEH at best, it's not bad, but it's definitely not good either.
Imagine if the Witcher had some sort of Revengeance/DMC gameplay? Or maybe something more Soul-esque?
The same is true for Mass Effect, now Mass Effect series is a steaming pile of garbage but the best one, ME2, almost succeed at that core of story/choice/impact/exploration by giving side quests for side chars that are well written and interesting enough. Imagine if the gameplay wasn't baby-first TPS but something more along the lines of a decent FPS (or Vanquish if you like TPS).
Either would be fucking game of the millennium.
That's the insane part, they should embrace the Action in the Action-RPG concept more, while only retaining the DM/GM part of properly creating and building the campaign, setting and player interactions with it, rather than what the player does by filling character sheets and rolling dices.
36325b No.16357957
>>16357847
>changes his hair
>the Witcher series to me is the proper compromise
36325b No.16357987
>>16357847
Lets try from another angle.
Was the Witcher series something you could've sat down and watched as a film or tv series?
Yep. Oh hey, look. It started out as a book and netfucks is making a tv show out of it.
The choices you made in game any bit substantial enough to make it a different experience the next playthrough?
Not by any measurement I can think of.
Is it a game you can play over and over and get a different experience?
Sex scenes? Nope. We have the internet for that
-if you didn't save-scum like in an erotic visual novel.
No. It's one laid out story with minimal deviation. I could slap the RPG brand on a certain brand of yogurt from my local store, and it would be more fitting, as it always seems to be a completely new experience.
Character options, roles and classes matter. From those comes near limitless experiences.
>I altered the hair of Geralt and shagged the redhead this game.
>Next game, I will get cornrows and try to get a threesome.
da302b No.16358099
>>16357987
>I could slap the RPG brand on a certain brand of yogurt from my local store, and it would be more fitting, as it always seems to be a completely new experience.
Yogurt company presents: The Vanilla Chronicles: A Peach Inquest into The Dairy Realm II: Revelations (Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry series!)
bf5db7 No.16358224
>>16357274
Wind Waker is one of the best games in existence.
bf5db7 No.16358232
>>16357506
Shut up retard.
The 3 episode rule for anime is as dumb as "just keep trying til it clicks" for games. If something isn't immediately engaging and drawing you in and making you want to continue, then fucking stop.
4260ae No.16358239
>>16357504
It felt more like an Ubisoft open world game, complete with radio tower climbing
f3e328 No.16358248
>>16357143
>>16357302
The game has a lot of flaws but UI elements are not one of them. If you complain about shit like waypoints and points of interests (question marks on the map) you didn't bother looking at the options menu. You can turn everything off.
Now if the game works well enough to give you directions on where you should go without the markers is another thing.
Using potions mid combat was also a stupid decision and using mods to fix it isn't the ideal solution but it does make the gameplay much more engaging. Couple that with mods that make dodging actually drain your stamina and you've got a decent action game on your hands.
The devs also made tons of mistakes with the skills, a skill might give a bonus for example but it never does. They never fixed this to my knowledge and I was wondering why most skills felt incredibly boring even though they sounded interesting by the description.
Again, mods fix all of that, it's not an excuse but it does make for a much better game than what we got.
788371 No.16358252
>>16357078
>Why is this game so highly regarded?
because reddit exist. Same question could be asked about (pic related) and the answer would be the same.
5babfd No.16358275
>>16357078
Not too difficult, gives the lowly casual audience everything they want, has a gigantic downgraded world they can explore and do fuck all, and mass marketing got it in the public sphere, has several questlines that make you "Tthink", like the last few games that did that, from Spider-Manlett to Red Dead Redemption 2. Really can't wait for the cancerous Cyberpunk 2077 bullshit takes.
52e86d No.16358283
>>16357265
Thinking back now, Novigrad was pretty good story wise. I wish they expanded it more, some of those characters were so good. Dijkstra is still my favorite. Gets me mad thinking of how much was glaze over story-wise.
79af18 No.16358304
b1721f No.16358315
Because the first two games attracted sincere fans, who talked about them a lot, and then normalfags wanted in but didn't actually understand anything about why people liked the first two games.
The first two games weren't my thing either but this same pattern happens all the damn time.
00719e No.16358353
you're retarded, the games is like 4-5 years old and it was a big deal because it's all console fags had that was like it.
16f384 No.16358423
>>16357078
Get the enhanced edition mod for it (just like the other two witcher games) and it significantly improves it.
91efd5 No.16358454
>>16357078
muh epic open world experience
people say HL2 ruined the industry but honestly I'd prefer a hundred linear shooters to 10 fuckhuge open world RPGS that all take 200 hours to beat
9091da No.16358465
>>16358248
Too bad the game is so shit that it wasn't designed to be played without waypoint markers, and as such, it's borderline unplayable without markers due to lazy dialogue design.
18b2d7 No.16358467
>>16357078
I assume people enjoy the massive amounts of content games like The Witcher provide. My problem is their lack of depth and/or anything interesting. The original Gothic might be clunky as fuck by today's standards but it's far more engaging that most open world RPGs now.
>>16358454
>people say HL2 ruined the industry
People who say that about HL2 are contrarian teenagers who were either never alive when the game came out or were too young to remember it.
The only actual HL2 clone I can think of is Sin: Episodes. Most games were ripping off Medal of Honor and Halo around that time, HL2 wasn't even the first story-focused FPS nor was it the first linear one. FEAR was also a linear FPS but you don't see people sperging over that anywhere near as much.
If I had that "these 14-year-olds tick me off" image I would post it
9aa801 No.16358480
>>16358467
>valvetard ODing on semen again
hl2 was trash and started the low-iq muh cinematic experience bullshit
c492c4 No.16358815
oh and reminder, since some anons started comparing this to skyrim and BOTW
91efd5 No.16358927
>>16358480
>>16358507
>HL2 was bad!
you guys are ignoring his entire point lmao he's saying it's not as influential as people lead on
112e81 No.16358983
>>16358248
> you didn't bother looking at the options menu. You can turn everything off.
It should have been off by default and the game designed with that in mind, Not the way they did it.
be080a No.16358988
>>16358927
It's not, cod is far more influential.
079373 No.16358991
>>16357078
Bored might be an overstatement, OP. The game isn't a godsent, but being bored with the amount of shit to do in that game sounds disingenuous
f0d527 No.16359010
>>16357149
At least Witcher 3 had shit in it's world. BotW was empty as fuck.
f0d527 No.16359012
>>16358252
That's a good point.
366d47 No.16359019
43ae2f No.16359022
>>16359010
>BotW was empty as fuck.
No it wasn't, you whiny fuck. An open world game that actually feels empty is Shadow of the Colossus.
bf5db7 No.16359048
>>16358991
>but being bored with the amount of shit to do in that game sounds disingenuous
When none of the content actually feels engaging, fun or worthwhile then no, I don't think I'm being disingenuous.
It's like coloring by numbers, I never felt like I was the one solving these quests. It was like I was being led by the hand through a funfair by the owner.
bf5db7 No.16359050
>>16359022
> An open world game that actually feels empty is Shadow of the Colossus.
Is that a joke?
Because SotC was empty on purpose. It was there solely to set the tone.
73c99a No.16359055
The same reason people loved Ocarina of Time. Because muh open world exploration.
27373d No.16359067
>>16357078
>I don't get it.
>I'm bored out of my mind
same, my guess it's the casual open world bait again
43ae2f No.16359079
>>16359050
I just hate it when anons misapply the word Empty when open world examples like SotC exist. And yet, some anons keep acting like BotW is as "empty" as SotC is. Despite there being plenty of side quests and other things to do in BotW to keep players occupied.
366d47 No.16359087
>>16359055
As well as Contra 3 The Alien Wars and Tetris Attack. Open world bullshit.
bf5db7 No.16359097
>>16359079
I haven't played BotW but when I describe an open world as "empty", like AC Oddyssey, then I mean "Yeah it's full of shit but it's all so pointless, uninteresting and poorly designed busywork that it might as well not be there". It might as well be called empty because of how there's no value to the content.
a54888 No.16359112
>call it an RPG
<you can only play as a dragonborn
<no actual classes
<game encourages you to min-max/max-max your character through the minimalistic, tacticasualcool UI
>also call it an action
<put one hundred Draugr Corridors to make the "on-rail cabinet shooter" experience come to life
<completely fails since it's a low-budget 2004 game on a technical level
>sells like cum cakes solely on the predecessors fame, modfags i.e. onanists and vicious lies
WUT
43ae2f No.16359118
>>16359097
> full of content = "empty"
Ok. Gotcha. Makes perfect sense there, bud.
Oh wait. No, it doesn't, because that's fucking retarded. Even if it's full of (in your opinion) "uninteresting" content, the word Empty still doesn't apply here, you stupid imbecile.
91efd5 No.16359119
>>16359112
modern RPGs are more or less adventure games with stats
bf5db7 No.16359126
>>16359118
I think if the majority of well informed people who play games agree it's worthless content, then it's worthless content. The opinions of plebs don't matter to me.
a54888 No.16359128
bf5db7 No.16359135
>>16359125
If you can get your point across in one sentence, what's the point of typing out a paragraph?
Stop being autistic.
91efd5 No.16359137
>>16359125
>template threads
I don't think you know what template thread is.
43ae2f No.16359146
>>16359126
It's not even a Fucking opinion, you redefining kike. It's an objective fact that Full =/= Empty
bf5db7 No.16359147
>>16359141
>OH MY GOD YOU CAN'T USE THE FIRST IMAGE OF A GAME ON GOOGLE
Literally what in the everloving fuck are you on?
It's a picture of the game's box art. So what if it's the first google result retard? Who the fuck cares?
bf5db7 No.16359149
>>16359146
Words can have various meanings depending on context retard.
43ae2f No.16359174
>>16359149
There's no debate on what the "context" is over what these basic antonyms are, moron.
bf5db7 No.16359183
>>16359174
You're right, there is no debate.
You're wrong, end of debate.
16dbb2 No.16359185
>>16359022
>Here's a game with a shitload of mountains, grassland and no side quests or enemies, and your weapons are constantly breaking
ur a faget
366d47 No.16359197
>>16359185
>I suck nigger cocks daily
wow
16dbb2 No.16359207
>>16359197
But anon, I am a nigger.
bf5db7 No.16359208
>>16359197
Why are you crying so hard?
Can't you accept that busywork is artificial content?
cc73d0 No.16359247
>>16359207
No you're not, I know because I'm you but on a dynamic IP.
366d47 No.16359271
>>16359208
why are you such a gaylord, gaylord
91efd5 No.16359279
>>16359271
ain't nothing wrong with sucking a little bit of penis bruh
dff52f No.16359283
>>16357078
I had the same question about this thing. One of the most boring games I've ever played.
But I guess normalfags love spending 10 minutes tapping A to get anywhere while they ride through an empty desert and then doing a mission that's 80% cutscene and 20% crouching behind rocks.
7a03be No.16360195
>>16357078
because people with actual attention spans can get into the story
bf5db7 No.16360321
>>16360195
I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas over 5 playthroughs, attention span isn't the issue.
From the admittedly little I played of Witcher 3, it was so dull. Yeah, yeah "the good stuff happens 70 hours in!". I know, I know. I'd rather play games that are compelling from minute 1, not 70 hours in. Story alone can't carry a game either, and Witcher's combat was Asscreed tier mash attack, occasionally dodge and use spells now and again for slightly more damage. On top of which, everything is designed around following the UI bombarding you with every little step of what to do on your journey.
It's just a boring game, it demands nothing of the player and although I can tell there's something worthwhile underneath it all it's just so mindnumbingly dull to get to it that any fun is outweighed by hours of chores and a feeling of the game being a fucking job you don't get paid to do.
It's like they had this good idea for a game, they hashed it all out, got all their ideas down on paper and said "RIGHT. How do we make it so even an actual honest to god down syndrome child can beat the game". And they just fucked it all up because MONEY, we need ALL THE MONEY. Some isn't good enough, we need it all.
d63141 No.16360341
>>16357078
>Why is this game so highly regarded?
It's well written, the visuals are great, everything from animations to art direction is a pleasure to behind, the content isn't nearly as dull as in other open world games such as the ones shat out by Ubisoft or Bethseda. The soundtrack is great. That's pretty much it.
The first and second game were actually better games, but as far as open world games go The Witcher 3 was brilliant. Now if you want true boredom check out say Dragon Age Inquisition which incorporates mobile and MMO mechanics into a singleplayer game. Or just about any Rockstar or Ubishit game.
With that said the open world RPG genre isn't for everyone, if you don't like exploring a landmass then it just isn't fun for you. Much better of with linear games, even though some retards use linear as a shorthand for a game being bad.
d63141 No.16360345
>>16360321
>I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas
Why do you enjoy complete trash?
d32843 No.16360350
>>16360321
>the good stuff happens 70 hours in
No one's ever used that argument for a Witcher game. As with most all Witcher media, the main storyline is the weakest of the lot, as Hearts of Stone handily proved. Combat in these games has generally been shit (W1 was using a heavily modified Aurora, and W2 tried to emulate Souls). Rest of your post is just subjective crap that, along with the OP, boils down to 'it didn't click for me'. Games are eminently interactive - if playing the THIRD game in a series made you dislike it, there's no way a wall of text will make you like it again.
Normally I'd decry this a shit thread and ask you to fuck off back to wherever you came from, but this board is already down the shitter, so I'd say newfags making threads like this are just a symptom of the infestation.
bf5db7 No.16360362
>>16360345
>Why do you enjoy complete trash?
It's a great game, whats your problem with it?
bf5db7 No.16360377
>>16360350
>Normally I'd decry this a shit thread and ask you to fuck off back to wherever you came from, but this board is already down the shitter, so I'd say newfags making threads like this are just a symptom of the infestation.
People who cry about newfags and "the good old days" are boring, thin skinned, whiny faggots.
It's pathetic and annoying to read your whining. If you think the board is shit or you think it's been flooded with new people, just keep it to yourself. You just come off as a little gaylord.
d63141 No.16360393
>>16360362
Just about everything, from how the gamebryo engine handles basic things to how guns feel, to writing and so on. It's much better than Bethesda's offerings for sure, but everything about the game was still awful. Conversations just for a start is terrible when you zoom into the face of an ugly model with no animations spouting dialogue at you. The combat was absolutely shit, as in all gamebryo games. The map you get to explore is pretty empty and there's very rarely anything interesting to find.
New Vegas is basically a push W to go foward simulator where you encounter gays and zany oh so random people on your way to your quest marker. You can join either the obviously evil legionaries, the good goyim, Walt Disney or stay independent. You shoot with really ankward guns at enemies that barely even register hits.
I will admit there are some few neat areas. Like that vauld overtaken by moss or mould or whatever, some of the DLC was pretty neat conceptually. But all in all? Talk about a shitheap and a snoozefest. Fallout should never have switched from the isometric perspective to first person. It's an ugly, slow and clunky game with little to no payoff, depending on where you stumble.
be080a No.16360395
>>16360393
Never even played New Vegas but this is an awful post and you seriously need to work on your argumentation, you said literally nothing in all 3 paragraphs. What the fuck?
f21e55 No.16360397
>>16360377
>just lemme take over goyim, dont fight back
d63141 No.16360401
>>16360395
>Weapons are shit
>Combat is shit
>Dialogue is shit
>World design is shit
>Engine is shit
>Assests are shit
<Soundtrack is neat
<DLC is neat
There, happy?
f21e55 No.16360406
>>16360401
>>16360393
>>16360345
>>16360341
>witcher is great
>nv is shit
I love both games and this smells of false-flag.
472466 No.16360417
I think that a large part of why Witcher III was as popular as it was, was because it was a pretty seamless experience. It added to the ímmersion and immersion is one of the main things you want to get right in a video game like this because you can ignore so much if you're invested.
d63141 No.16360419
>>16360406
Why would you need to false-flag not liking a shitty game? Some people like janky games of poor quality, but think that they has some redeeming features, some don't. I just don't think New Vegas has any redeeming qualities. The writing just isn't that great, in contrast to Fallout 3 maybe it seemed good, but on its own I just don't think it's everything it's cracked up to be.
bf5db7 No.16360420
>>16360393
>Conversations just for a start is terrible when you zoom into the face of an ugly model with no animations spouting dialogue at you.
It has basic animations for talking, but nobody will disagree that the game looks like hot shit. Which sometimes helps the atmosphere but most of the time just looks like hot shit.
>The combat was absolutely shit, as in all gamebryo games.
It's serviceable once you get some perks/levels under your belt. Not good, but it works well enough to do what you wanna do generally.
>The map you get to explore is pretty empty and there's very rarely anything interesting to find.
True but the story path the game lays out for you leads you to some cool areas and interesting NPC's. And you're free to do quests whenever you feel like so it's not 100% linear. There's some interesting stuff you don't have to do to beat the game, there's plenty of useless areas too that're a waste of time but it's usually pretty easy to tell what's worthwhile and what isn't.
>New Vegas is basically a push W to go foward simulator where you encounter gays and zany oh so random people on your way to your quest marker. You can join either the obviously evil legionaries,
If you actually talk to their leader you'll find they have a plan, beliefs, a system, traditions, history. They're not just brutal slavers, there's more beneath the surface.
the good goyim,
NCR aren't one dimensional either, plenty of fucked up shit goes on in the NCR.
>Talk about a shitheap and a snoozefest. Fallout should never have switched from the isometric perspective to first person. It's an ugly, slow and clunky game with little to no payoff, depending on where you stumble.
It's not fair to compare Fallout 1 and 2 to the later Fallout games. They're completely different genre's from completely different developers. New Vegas wasn't made for the Fallout 1 and 2 fans, and you're free to bitch about that fact. But a lot of people liked New Vegas and it's an incredibly impressive game especially considering they made it in under 2 years with a shitty budget.
bf5db7 No.16360425
>>16360397
>Everyone's out to get me, I'm so important, RESIST RESIST RESIST
Reassess your own importance in the world
bbd3cb No.16360434
READ THE BOOKS, PLAY GAMES IN ORDER
bbd3cb No.16360436
>>16360434
AND IMPORT YOUR SAVES
13a62b No.16360445
>>16360434
>read the books
>that whine about male on female rape being bad and the literal next scene having girl on girl rape be depicted positively
da302b No.16360459
>>16360321
>From the admittedly little I played of Witcher 3, it was so dull. Yeah, yeah "the good stuff happens 70 hours in!". I know, I know. I'd rather play games that are compelling from minute 1, not 70 hours in.
Again, I want to know what you expected. From the beginning, the Witcher III puts the player into a smaller area that one will quickly depart from and into the larger region of Redanian countryside, where many more quests can be completed. This happens anywhere between 5 and 10 hours, maybe less, and all the while the player is given new quests to complete. Meanwhile, in Fallout New Vegas, one is expected to go on a fucking detour just to get to New Vegas proper, and by the time you get there you're already around 15 hours in. In both games, the sidequests make up for downtime between major plot points, so what are you bitching about?
>Story alone can't carry a game either, and Witcher's combat was Asscreed tier mash attack
Oh, yeah, as opposed to FNV's stellar fps gameplay, right? Give me a fucking break. If you want to be charitable, you can argue that both games have flawed but functional combat mechanics that serve their purpose.
>It's just a boring game, it demands nothing of the player and although I can tell there's something worthwhile underneath it all it's just so mindnumbingly dull to get to it that any fun is outweighed by hours of chores and a feeling of the game being a fucking job you don't get paid to do.
Same could be said for bethesda's Fallout. FNV is just Obsidian's creative direction pasted on top of Betheshit gameplay, with some minor tweaks here and there.
>>16360420
>True but the story path the game lays out for you leads you to some cool areas and interesting NPC's. And you're free to do quests whenever you feel like so it's not 100% linear. There's some interesting stuff you don't have to do to beat the game, there's plenty of useless areas too that're a waste of time but it's usually pretty easy to tell what's worthwhile and what isn't.
Same applies to Witcher III
bf5db7 No.16360463
>>16360459
New Vegas had engaging writing, characters, world history and plot from second one. Witcher 3 didn't. New Vegas had a slow start too, sure. But it was still enjoyable to play through.
da302b No.16360559
>New Vegas had engaging writing, characters, world history and plot from second one. Witcher 3 didn't.
<he doesn't know about the tense political climate between the Northern Kingdoms
<he doesn't know about how this was instigated by the Lodge of Sorceresses who try to pit kings and armies against one another for their own personal benefit
<he doesn't know about the Conjunction of the Spheres, or why Witchers exist in the first place
<he doesn't know why Foltest and Demavend were assassinated
<he doesn't know bout Nilfgaardian Pride World Wide™
<he never joined the Order of the Flaming Rose and eradicated the elven menace
<he doesn't know about why Ciri is the best little halfbreed to ever exist
Sad.
Even if you never played the first two games or read any of the books, the Witcher III has plenty of sidequests that have nothing to do with the overall plot and can be consumed independent of any knowledge of the in-universe's continuity. Besides that, there are plenty of resources - books and NPCs alike - within the game that can shed light on some potential questions that may arise. If you didn't bother with any of this, then I can see why it appears as though there isn't any "engaging writing, characters, world history and plot", but that doesn't make the assertion any less false.
c21214 No.16361744
>>16358283
Radovid did nothing wronghe a gud boi
675cf3 No.16361764
>>16360321
>I enjoyed Fallout New Vegas over 5 playthroughs, attention span isn't the issue.
<Litterally "press x to freeze time" combat.
<UI is even worse than the witcher's
Everything you've said against the Witcher 3 is now completely delegitimatized.
I might have believed you if you had said you don't like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, or Witcher 3.
But that would mean you'd need some actual consistency. Now it's clear you are just baiting.
The fact of the matter is that Witcher 3 is a better Skyrim. That's all there is to it.
CDprojekt built a better mouse trap, and all the people who liked Skyrim showered them with fanfare for it.
Wasn't a big surprise, considering it came out 4 years after Skyrim. So they had plenty of time to perfect the game.
Personally I don't feel to strongly about these kinds of RPGs, but you're faggotry bothers me.
b311bb No.16361784
>>16360559
I wanna give that Triss my skeleton bone.
11a978 No.16361796
>>16361764
Why even bother typing this long just to mask the fact that you dont like his opinnion because he likes a game you dont?
Too pretentious to just post "you're gay"?
cb7b5e No.16361814
>>16357542
This, if the Shrines were done better and weren't shit copy pastes it would of been Fine
I bet all of the faggots saying the game is empty are City Faggots who have never been out bush
Honestly the "emptiness" was fine since the game handled movement pretty well, but they should of given more incentive to explore since once you have enough shrines for the master sword chasing them seems empty
675cf3 No.16361862
>>16361796
It's because he's baiting people you triple nigger.
There's no possible way this faggot is saying he like Bethesda shit while still calling The Witcher 3 "boring with bad gameplay"
Also, you're gay.
675cf3 No.16361866
>>16361796
Also, you reak of 4cuck. But who am i kidding. This site is completely fucked. Don't know why I felt like coming back here today.
3f6041 No.16361934
>>16357818
You forgot to count "Six" and "words".
92b78f No.16362375
>>16360445
>>that whine about male on female rape being bad and the literal next scene having girl on girl rape be depicted positively
Guess I'll be reading them books now.
74c0f0 No.16362399
imagine actually enjoying soulless waste of time that is modern bethesda games (skyrim, Fallout 4) and getting bored at Witcher 3
you got to have mental problems to prefer empty environments to hand crafted worlds with interesting characters
2cc695 No.16362411
>>16361866
Yeah consider leaving and never coming back
3a6a6a No.16362638
>>16357078
I liked the second one, one of my favourite games actually. Why didn't they just stick with the pseudo-open world? Werked just fine for me.
d63141 No.16362869
>>16362638
It was still kind of pseudo-open world, even so, as can be seen by their sales going big means more customers. I agree though, the first game was the best imho, but the second wasn't bad at all either. They could have kept the scope and I'd still have been happy as a pig in mud.
d63141 No.16362908
>>16362886
t. Obshitian shill
5fc89e No.16362912
>>16362886
>Play fallout NV if you want a good RPG instead
*play geneforge if you want a good rpg
d63141 No.16363156
>>16362912
Now that's more like it. Geneforge was great.
63e741 No.16363193
>>16358467
Take it from someone who was there; after you got done throwing physics shit everywhere the game's linearity and first person cutscenes dragged it down. Too bad it only got worse with follow up episodes.
>>16358991
>godsent
Why are constant spelling mistakes like these a diamond dozen now? Godsent isn't even a word you stupid nigger
8540a7 No.16363196
>>16363156
>>16362912
Geneforge 1 and 2 were excellent, because they dealt with the moral implications of genetic engineering and what can happen when SHTF. 3-5 just felt like meandering storylines where oh no evil dragons and it missed that subtle oomph that made it really good. All the mechanics are basically the same (like Jeff uses the same suit of spells in basically every game he makes it seems) between them
The absolute worst thing about Geneforge is that the Exile/Avernum games lost their identity when they were ported to the engine
d11775 No.16363213
>>16357078
It was a story game with easy Batham combat. The perfect combination for the Skyrim generation.
Don't forget that Skyrim players genuinely think Skyrim is hard.
d63141 No.16363223
>>16363213
RPGs have never been hard, famalam.
91efd5 No.16363234
>>16363223
Now this is shitposting
d63141 No.16363241
>>16363234
It's just the truth, RPGs by virtue of their genre are always just based on higher numbers and not player skill, that's what makes them RPGs. If a boss beats your ass you can always just grind enough to defeat it.
d11775 No.16363243
>>16363223
Thatsthejoke.txt
569f02 No.16363245
>>16363223
>implying skyrim is an RPG
d63141 No.16363252
>>16363245
Being a shitty game doesn't mean it's not in the genre it's in. It's an ARPG, true, but it's still an RPG.
569f02 No.16363256
>>16363252
Scaling enemies disqualifies it as an RPG in my book, even if it technically still is.
342cf5 No.16363257
>>16357078
It's a great movie inside a godawful RPG, masqueraded behind great graphics. Watch it on jewtube, don't waste your time attempting to find any engaging gameplay.
d63141 No.16363328
>>16363256
That's like saying regenerating health disqualifies a shooter from being an FPS. It's casusal, yes, but it doesn't make any difference what so ever when it comes to genre.
1bc5b2 No.16363400
>>16357078
you mean you don't like b-tier fantasy novels in your vidya?
569f02 No.16363698
>>16363328
RPGs and shooters are two very different beasts, as evidenced by how badly they combine with one another. For one thing, RPGs are so much more complex that they are divided into a fuckton of different categories, while shooters are only really divided based on camera perspective and map design. To say every single RPG isn't difficult is retarded and you know it.
27c26f No.16363871
>>16357078
Anything remotely tolkien esque is absolutely loved by normalfags. Even garbage like The Witcher. In terms of gameplay, it's mediocre as fuck.
It's best to just avoid western orc/dragon rpgs like this.
9e3c7b No.16363909
I just bought it for 14 bucks on steam.
Its okay, not bad, its actually nothing special really.
I only played it for a few hours so far and exploring the second area is seeming pretty damn tedious also due to the fact that Roach is fucking retarded.
Combat is stupid simple, but the presentation of everything and the graphics are amazing.
The character writing is passable. Geralt and the old witcher is cool but I cant really be bothered to give a shit about Yennifer, she just seems like a massive bitch and a waste of time for any same man, no levels of muh dik is worth a woman that much of a pain in the ass.
I give the game a 6.5/10
Its "okay" but not really "enjoyable" and no where close to "stupid fun".
If you guys want a game with a white aryan dude with a sword going fucking bananas on monsters get any DMC game, NIOH instead or make a white haired dude in Monster Hunter.
5300e8 No.16363930
>>16363909
If its "ok but not enjoyable" shouldnt it be 5/10.
The side quest are pretty good and you could have multiple outcomes and the fantasy was based on more slavic mystic shit rather than tolkien shite.
Romping around doing the quests and listening to the music and enjoying the atmosphere of the world was quite enjoyable in my very own personal opinion.
9e3c7b No.16363947
>>16363930
Its only "okay" to me because its a pretty damn decent time waster, it wont fucking absorb me for days at a time like how a few other games manage to do but I can see myself actually coming back to play it now an then, $14 was a good price to spend on that game, DLC included.
Some of the sidequests are pretty neat, but not really that memorable, not like it even matters anyway, the music is gorgeous too.
Little Red is an absolute cutie pie. Too bad shes also a furfag.
I didnt see what was coming despite the obvious hint in her name
b604f3 No.16364525
>>16357326
That's literally the only questline in the entire game which stood out to me, and that I remember clearly months after playing.
fb0c8a No.16364528
>>16363947
>Little Red is an absolute cutie pie. Too bad shes also a furfag.
Tell me more.
b604f3 No.16364604
>>16364528
>>Little Red
It's nice that CDPR provided a game with representation for people who like to huff paint. Maybe that goes to explain it's popularity and high praise.
892191 No.16365024
Normalfags, and it gets shilled around here.
b49c7d No.16365186
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Fuck mods and jannies
e17b06 No.16365190
>>16357439
what the hell? why not make both then?
a54888 No.16365392
>>16363252
Empirically wrong and gay.
403aa9 No.16365410
Your mission is to empower 13th century women.
3073e0 No.16365412
>>16360463
>New Vegas had engaging writing, characters, world history and plot
5/10 because your bait thread succeeded
3b9228 No.16365419
>>16363252
It's not an RPG. There are only two quests with multiple endings (Civil War and Dark Brotherhood), no branching dialogue or story paths and no limitations placed on the player.
Skyrim is an adventure sandbox. The only RPG elements which exist in it, such as stats and character customisation, do so only because it is a sequel, and are utterly hollow—they're like the shadow of their real counterparts (compare faction apparel in Skyrim with New Vegas, for instance).
t. someone for whom Skyrim was their first "big game" and subsequently sunk >3000 hours into it
953079 No.16365427
>>16360463
>New Vegas had engaging writing, characters, world history and plot
But none of that's true because new vegas was absolute garbage.
f4f1f1 No.16365980
>>16365427
>people are still talking about new vegas
that archaic shit has been around for years. How old are you niggas?
cb7d01 No.16365981
>>16357143
It's a game where you press a button and the path to thegoal lights up
937cae No.16366001
>>16357143
In a tightly condensed nutshell, it's like Skyrim with better dialogue, more interesting NPCs and better environment design, but still has all the other same problems flavored slightly differently. I was able to beat the game and enjoy it for the dialogue (most of the stuff involving Ciri was shit though).
6cbf32 No.16366207
You have to be high AF to enjoy big boring open world games with tons of dialog from uninteresting characters about uninteresting things. Back when I smoked a ton of weed, games like this were fun
40e451 No.16367014
>>16365427
t. a fag that likes fallout 3
36325b No.16376220
>>16358239
That's the product they were copying, Ubisoft Open World or Nu-Open World. With no thought to how previous iterations were already very open. They even brought back the Water Temple frustrations for BotW. Proving they knew or learned next to nothing from the previous works.
Why was there no Hookshot for BotW, the largest Zelda world yet? Absurd, but that's our modern entertainment for you.
1af444 No.16376269
>>16364525
Imagine a whole game that was just being a middle ages monster hunter csi dude, going from town to town doing quests like these.
36325b No.16376273
>>16365419
akshully, for clarity
Yes, a hollow shadow, but TES games were technically a RPG, where Witcher is not. You can still experience different roles and experiences, though all as one Gary Stue being. It's most definitely fucking absurd garbage, but very loosely still a RPG.
80s-90s Tabletop: +40% alcohol Scotch whiskey
TES: Morrowind: 5% alcohol beer
TES: Skyrim: -5% low-alcohol beer
The Witcher 3: bottled water
something like that
dba4a0 No.16376284
>>16357078
it's a great game. you just need to allow yourself to be immersed in the games world.
c69913 No.16376301
>>16365410
>The virgin sterile witcher who respects women and probably has a small dick,
>The chad Wędrowycz who has a humongous cock he tucks in his shoes, kills succubi by bench pressing
36325b No.16386867
>>16361764
>>16361862
>>16361866
>Litterally "press x to freeze time" combat.
>literally
>The fact of the matter is that Witcher 3 is a better Skyrim.
>fact
Anon, no. At the very least, read some of what has been posted here.
>they had plenty of time to perfect the game.
>implying any sort of perfection
>these kinds of RPG
>implying witcher 3 is an RPG
>There's no possible way this faggot is saying he like Bethesda shit while still calling The Witcher 3 "boring with bad gameplay"
Obsidian Entertainment were the developers
>But who am i kidding. This site is completely fucked.
>site, not board
/v/ is pretty bad for dick sucking console faggotry, save for most of this thread.
>Don't know why I felt like coming back here today.
>felt
Low energy posting confirmed
Not only that, but you don't seem to understand the words you're using, nor the >>16361862 image and >>16361866 mp4.
>you're faggotry bothers me
>this faggot
>also, you're gay
>you triple nigger
>also, you reak of 4cuck
>Personally I don't feel to strongly about these kinds of RPGs
3 posts of assblasted aids ridden nonsense says otherwise.