ca6949 No.16356913
Despite your specific feelings on REmake 2, do you think it's popularity can be enough to get other developers to make Survival Horror games again?
5f0272 No.16356916
To make more? Sure. To make any worth a damn? Not a chance. The moment they smell money they lose all sense.
e13ed1 No.16356953
If there is a massive trend for it, yes. Will it be good? Doubtful. If they do it within the next 3 years, they'll try to go for some political twist like they were a dumb and young Shymalan.
2eaa45 No.16356981
Like >>16356953 said, there will be other developers trying to follow in their footsteps, but there aren't many devs out there who can make good games anymore.
36b018 No.16356987
if one success is enough to get devs on the bandwaggon then 1 failure is enough for them to scrap the idea forever
489935 No.16356996
79de92 No.16357002
>>16356913
I really do miss third person survival horror games like this. The genre has been going to shit ever since that low budget memeshit slenderman game popularized the first person camera. Resident Evil tried pulling that first person shit with RE7, but it just didn't work.
332485 No.16357016
How would EA pozz it up? Tranny zombies?
b92bfb No.16357018
>>16356913
What do you think Friday Night Freddie Nights was?
2eaa45 No.16357024
>>16357016
Strong sassy black afro womyn fighting against the true monster, the patriarchy
cfe663 No.16357025
It was a competent remake, despite it not being as scary as the 1998 classic.
5f0272 No.16357043
>>16357025
You kidding? Goblin Claire is the stuff of nightmares.
c14bd7 No.16357070
>>16356936
I still believe.
625b95 No.16357099
>4-7 hours long
>made just shy of a quarter of a BILLION dollars in 3 months
Uhh, yeah, probably.
a3520f No.16357124
>>16357002
Wasn't amnesia that made fps horror popular among normalfags? At least all the popular gaming youtubers put videos of it non-stop back when it was new and hip, like pewdiepie and markiplier.
ca6949 No.16357130
>>16356987
Not true. Look at all of the shitty Overwatch and Fornite clones despite the hundreds of failures.
228474 No.16357134
>>16357040
>>16357024
Hell naw, nigga, I ain't bouta let some zambie mofugga eat my black ass, nuh-huh
>wins awards for best performance and best story
5f0272 No.16357324
>>16357130
I'm pretty sure he means on a studio by studio basis.
d929ab No.16357345
A want a game like Dead Space again.
1ccbc8 No.16357360
>>16357002
>I really do miss third person survival horror games like this.
RE4 clones? That's not saying their bad games, but I'm tired of "over the shoulder" horror games (Though not nearly compared to how tired I am of first-person horror games). What happened to the other different brands of third-person gameplay?
491a7b No.16357373
>>16356913
Don't think that one game is enough, but maybe after REmake 3 comes out.
>>16356936
Holy shit, I remember seeing this like 5 years ago. What the fuck happened?
b6f035 No.16357392
>>16357124
>Wasn't amnesia that made fps horror popular among normalfags?
It made fps horror popular "to watch" among normalfags. It was inadvertently the start of streamer-oriented games. Some people bought it for gamer-creed or trying to be streamers themselves, but who knows how many actually finished it or played it out of actual genuine enjoyment.
602701 No.16357434
>>16356913
> do you think it's popularity can be enough to get other developers to make Survival Horror games again?
No because RE2 remake is not survival horror it is action horror, So even if it did inspire copycats they would be making a different genre to the og resident evil games.
0ebed0 No.16357435
>>16356936
I was just thinking about this game a couple of days ago. Always wondered what the hell went on behind the scenes.
491a7b No.16357463
>>16357434
So Dead Space is also only action horror?
7f6ff4 No.16357464
491a7b No.16357470
>>16357464
What differentiates Survival Horror from Action Horror?
7f6ff4 No.16357476
>>16357470
Typically survival horror depends less on you actually fighting, whereas action makes you a capable fighter.
e1e4f5 No.16357480
>>16357470
In action horror you don't run out of bullets. In survival horror you can.
7f6ff4 No.16357486
>>16357480
A difficulty setting shouldn't be able to make a game a different genre.
441fb5 No.16357487
>>16357470
The gameplay.
Survival is about managing limited resources.
Action is about fighting quickly and skillfully.
5f0272 No.16357491
>>16357480
Nice fake filename fellow oldfag.
491a7b No.16357495
>>16357476
>>16357487
>>16357480
You can run out of bullets and resources in REmake 2.
1ccbc8 No.16357513
>>16357470
>Survival horror
<Adventure game with horror elements
>Action horror
<Action game with horror elements
441fb5 No.16357517
>>16357495
You can run out of bullets in a lot of games.
Do you have to consider whether picking up an item is worth the risk of losing health and ammo in the process? Is there a limited amount of ammo and medicine to be found, to a point where you might actually run out of them if you're not careful? That's a survival game.
491a7b No.16357554
>>16357517
Then REmake 2 is a survival horror game.
eeaa87 No.16357614
>>16357554
I'd say yes to this point indeed. In fact, resource wise it's even tougher than the original RE2, since in that one the knife doesn't break - so you always have at least one final resource in case you run out of bullets (then again the game throws a LOT of bullets at you and there's also the keyconfig ammo cheat).
RE2make on the other hand has very 'dynamic' health for most enemies (so each zombie takes a random amount of shots to fully kill), it doesn't have an infinite knife out of the box (it's an unlockable), and unlike Dead Space you don't have an infinite broken as fuck 'boot to head' melee attack, either. So if you break the last knife you had and waste all your bullets, it's time to run until you can find more resources. Also, DS (like RE4) has 'adaptable enemy drops', in which the game tends to give you stuff you may need from enemies that you kill. DS in particular starts giving you specific weapon ammo after you buy said weapon. RE2 doesn't have enemy drops so there's a completely fixed amount of resources available.
On the flipside, Silent Hill doesn't sound like much of 'survival horror' if we go with the mechanics, since (in the main 3) you have infinite inventory space, and resources are really plentiful (yet still fixed, as there are no enemy drops). Besides, you have a selection of unbreakable melee weapons at your disposal. That aside, SH is however a lot more 'horror' than RE regardless - with a psychological emphasis compared to RE's gory emphasis.
I enjoyed RE2make, all things considered. Got S+ ranks on Hardcore difficulty all the way through, and had a blast finding optimal ways to bust the game and beat it as fast as I could (not in a speedrun min-maxing sense, though. Just enough so I had leeway in case shit went south in the S+ runs).
43d40e No.16357644
>>16357513
>with horror elements
At what point does horror elements become horror? Or X elements becomes the genre of X, for that matter.
441fb5 No.16357651
>>16357644
When it's the main focus.
The reason horror gets paired with other genres like survival or action is that horror isn't a mode of gameplay; it's a theme of visuals, sound, and story.
ca6949 No.16357710
>>16357470
Resource management is a lot more crucial and enemies are more threatening on average. Basically webm related describes what makes survival horror and regular horror different.
ca6949 No.16357795
>>16357565
>Walking similar
Kek, what? No it's not. It's no more a walking sim than the original RE 2 unless you think that is a walking sim as well.
62e07a No.16357866
>>16357345
I want dead space 4, that's more like 1 than the rest
e2158c No.16358027
>>16356913
>"survival horror"
RE games stop being survival horror with 4. Its just 3rd person shooter with horror elements, there's no survival aspect to it. Survival horror games is like Silent Hill, Clock Tower, Siren and Fatal Frame.
1e2c2c No.16358092
>>16356936
SOMA's been out for years though.
773490 No.16358280
>>16358027
RE2 put the survival horror back into the series.
3e1269 No.16358303
>>16358280
Is there any need to actually conserve resources or is it RE4 item confetti from dead enemies all over again?
3d0223 No.16358320
>>16358303
enemies don't drop anything, unless it's a knife you stuck in their face. i actually was expecting the RE2make to really fucking suck but it surprised me a lot, because even though it's got the over the shoulder cam we all associate with RE4 vis a vis cuhrazy backflips, it's also got the things we associate with resident evil: never enough ammo, never enough inventory space, never enough physical space to get maneuver around enemies
bc3a4f No.16358492
No. Developers don't know how to balance actual survivor and horror anymore. The best we're getting this generation is Until Dawn and there's almost no real combat in that game.
>My specific feels
Fuck you.
Pros
>Looks nice graphically.
Cons
>Original music is DLC.
>New Sherry looks like a rat, didn't stop the porn makers though.
>Game has no new unlocks like RE1 Remake did.
>No unlockables like RE4/RE5/RE6/RE7
>Punishes you for using what few unlockables it does has.
>Game gets reskinned 4th Survivor Modes as post release DLC.
>Not Mercenaries Mode or anything with real replay value.
>Weapons and enemies are missing.
>"Giant Spiders and Crows aren't realistic" said the director of RE2.
>A director of one of the least realistic horror games in existence said that.
>Stupid Infinite Ammo Unlock doesn't carry over to the main game, so you can never have an infinite Electric Gun.
>Combat is 2 steps forward, 10 steps back with the breakable knife and "random health" zombies.
>B-Campaign was literally tacked on at the last minute, adds more plot holes to the mess that is the story.
>Mr.X appearing in A-Campaign is a plot hole itself.
0478e6 No.16358765
>>16358492
Why are blue herbs still in the game with no spiders?
5a7e18 No.16358799
>>16358027
>>16357434
Did you fuckers even bother to look at some gameplay?
The game is harder than the original, enemies are tougher (not just the hp) and theres less resources.
5a7e18 No.16358809
>>16358765
The G embryos poison you, also a kind of zombie in the dlc.
72896d No.16358847
>>16356913
Of course not publishers will see that and start shitting out remakes of every popular game they have for a quick buck.
bb8f72 No.16358852
>RE2 remake is scarier than the original
>RE2 remake is harder than the original (headshots were instakills in that, Mr X was easily avoided, sewers were literally just 3 rooms)
But still people say RE2R is not survival horror. How fucking retarded can you guys get?
3e1269 No.16358863
>>16358492
>"Giant Spiders and Crows aren't realistic" said the director of RE2.
This was most likely because it is extremely awkward and unfun to use a controller to aim up or at small flying targets, especially fast ones.
7f4720 No.16358864
>>16356913
>do you think it's popularity can be enough to get other developers to make Survival Horror games again
no, fnortnight and 'what was that new game again' make much more money
3bbd7a No.16358916
>>16358852
>headshots were instakills in that
With the shotgun*
b7f606 No.16358965
>>16357392
I just saw the trailer and it really perked my interest. I always found that castle comfy as fuck. Pnumbra's still better though.
dda607 No.16359294
>>16358492
>dude at work is sperging over the game and asks me what I thought about it
>told him it was alright but pointed out all the missing content and neutered B campaign
>says I'm ridiculous for expecting so much
I really don't understand why criticism is dead these days.
625b95 No.16359319
>>16357345
>Dead Space 3 was all a nightmare, Issac's in a sanitarium, now Ellie has to deal with some necromorph bullshit outbreak on earth and deal with it before her mind goes batshit snooker loopy on her as well.
Bam, done.
ca6949 No.16359338
>>16358492
>The best we are going to get is Until Dawn
That's some shit opinion you have.
f6df0a No.16359346
>>16358799
>>16358852
I bet you're one of the fags who try to say that Metroid Prime is a platformer.
5a7e18 No.16359354
>>16358916
Handguns had headshots that were instakill too, it was a crit chance and chris had the highest.
>>16359346
Prove me wrong you double nigger, youre also replying to two different persons.
f6df0a No.16359361
>>16359354
>Prove me wrong
See :>>16357513
>>Survival horror
<<Adventure game with horror elements
>>Action horror
<<Action game with horror elements
So, REmake 2 is a third person shooter with horror elements. It's action horror.
bb8f72 No.16359378
>>16359361
Alright, we've established then that the original RE2 was also action horror.
f6df0a No.16359390
>>16359378
I wouldn't know because I haven't played RE2. That being said, everything that I've seen of it, as well as playing the original RE, it's an adventure game, not an action game.
5a7e18 No.16359395
>>16359390
>I wouldn't know because I haven't played RE2
Then fuck off.
The main aspect of the game is still administration of limited resources to escape a place, but with less resources this time around.
b7f606 No.16359397
>>16359378
Man I forgot how fucking retarded this board could be.
f6df0a No.16359399
>>16359395
That's a premise, that doesn't define if the game is action horror or survival horror. What does, however, is the gameplay.
5a7e18 No.16359403
>>16359399
> however, is the gameplay.
Thats the fucking gameplay you cunt.
If you run around like a faggot shooting everything you willl run out of resources and make the game unbeatable.
1d54fd No.16359438
The original Resident Evil 2 had bits and pieces of action strewn about, yes, but it still adheres to the same formula set in place with Resident Evil 1. You're still exploring a large spooky locale with a secret spookier lab underneath, deciding how best to appropriate your resources as you get closer and closer to the truth.
f6df0a No.16359439
>>16359403
>If you run around like a faggot shooting everything you willl run out of resources and make the game unbeatable.
That statement applies thousands of games.
Being smart and planning out how you will handle a situation isn't something that's unique horror.
bb8f72 No.16359446
>>16359390
>I wouldn't know because I haven't played RE2.
Oh what the fuck are you arguing about then for fucks sake. You went around shotgunning everything in RE2 like rambo.
>>16359438
Everything you just said applies to RE2R too for fucks sake. The only difference is they put the camera behind your shoulders so you can aim a bit easier and that remake is harder.
5a7e18 No.16359450
>>16359439
Then no resident evil game is survival horror, wich is odd seeing how the games coined the name of the genre, youre a massive retard and have played none of the games.
1d54fd No.16359455
>>16359446
Except, and I've said this in previous RE2 threads, the fixed camera placement was used to emphasize an atmosphere of horror. You don't get that in REmake2.
f6df0a No.16359462
>>16359450
>youre a massive retard and have played none of the games
I know all the people going on about "Muh ammo shortage" in the first game never had the brains to ever use the fucking knife, much less stab anything on the ground, or even get behind the zombies.
7cc8fb No.16359464
>>16358492
>Until Dawn
>Survival Horror
You're an absolute retard and your opinions are shit.
1d54fd No.16359470
>>16359462
The knife is only useful in Code Veronica. That's why it's hardly brought up.
5a7e18 No.16359479
>>16359462
>when you get good at the game you get better at the gsme you usd your wespon and resources better
No fucking way!
You havdng even played the games.
f6df0a No.16359492
>>16359470
Then I must have played a different game, or the Ultimate Director's Cut mod severely changed the knife stats.
>3-4 shots from pistol
>1 stab on the ground
<If still living…
>Slash 3 more times
>>16359479
>when you get good at the game
This was after the second hour, retard.
ON MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH!!!
7f4c17 No.16359512
ITT POOR FAGGOTS THAT DID NOT PLAY REMAKE2 AT ALL
7cc8fb No.16359518
>>16359470
>The knife is only useful in Code Veronica.
Incorrect, the knife is useful in every RE game. REmake 1 even has an achievement for beating the game with only the knife. That's why REmake 2 is a lot harder than the original, you can't kite enemies and the knife doesn't have an unlimited amount of uses anymore.
8080cd No.16359551
fuck RE2make i just want outbreak file 1 and 2 ported to PC with modding tools so we can add more levels, characters and weapons
625b95 No.16359760
>>16359551
Theres some rumours an Outbreak 3 is happening already with some stuff to at least suggest it
>RE7 includes files that are from books or newspaper articles written by outbreak characters that confirm they survived
>REmake 2's team specifically said they made more Raccoon City than what is used in game 'for another resident evil title'
>Monster Hunter World showed 4 player small scale online multiplayer is a money maker for them
>Late last year they updated all their games in japan to be easier to port but didn't bother with certain games 'because the remakes make it pointless' and those were RE1 and 2 obviously but also 3 and Outbreak as well
>The Resi ambassador program had a survey last year asking if an outbreak sequel is what the fans want.
It might not see the light of day, and could just be 3make but you never know.
8080cd No.16359834
>>16359760
its no secret they're working on RE3make since RE3 uses alot of RE2 assets. my biggest fear with an outbreak 3 it being nothing like the original 2, the original games are perfect. but im guessing RE3make will fuck up hard with nemesis, im sure of it
88bd61 No.16359836
>RE2 Thread
I'm trying to S on Hardcore Claire A to unlock the infinite SMG. I've picked up all of the extra pouches, the extra guns, and every bit of ammo along the way. I cleared out the library and the west hall, to make it easier for when Mr.X shows up, but I need to shave 20-30 minutes off of my time. I've read that people beat the sewers in 20 minutes, but how do people do this? G-monsters are fucking niggers when they decide to body Claire around and dogs are fucking cunts with how fast and resilient they are. Lickers are avoidable and zombies on staircases get to go at 2x normal charging speed, while Claire's fat ass seems to be holding her back. Are there any must skips in an S/S+ run and are there any must haves? I like the SMG for the G-fights, because the handguns don't do shit against his eyes. I've read that people just focus on knee-capping zombies, but that takes a fuck-load of ammo on hardcore. Is there a specific spot to hit?
>>16358863
Dogs are a big enough pain in the ass with the mouse, I can't imaging how much bs it would be to hit crows with a controller.
>>16358492
They can still add free dlc and I would have liked at least a new spider boss. It could have been used for B campaign's G3 replacement. Place it near NEST's main elevator shaft and have it take place while A campaign is fighting G3.
>>16359760
I've heard that REmake3 is already being made, but that it's being outsourced. There were a ton of Outbreak hints throughout REmake2, so I wouldn't be surprised if we at least get an Outbreak anthology.
3d0223 No.16359840
>>16359834
>fuck up hard with Nemesis
How? Mr. X is already Nemesis Lite and they did a good job with him. All they need to do is reuse Mr. X, make him faster and more aggressive, and record "STARS" then they're good to go
1e6ab9 No.16359843
>>16359760
After all of Capcom's effort to create a brand new RPD and parts of Raccoon City, I have a hard time believing they wouldn't reuse those assets in order to remake 3 or make another Outbreak. Even the behavior Mr. X following you around can be reused for Nemesis.
88bd61 No.16359927
>>16359834
I'm hoping they expand on what Nemesis was doing during Jill's downtime. His entire goal was to eliminate STARS, but did he have a secondary objective? There were a lot more people still alive during the first day of RE3 too, so perhaps we'll get to run into more survivors. Something neat that they could do is to add survivors that Jill can save. If they're saved, they'll drop some goodies for Jill to pick up later in the game along with like a note either thanking their savior or as a journal that shows what they went through during the early days of the Outbreak. It could be a nice reward for those that explore, for those that need more ammo and for those that want more lore.
>>16359840
I forgot that Nemesis can run. It had better be possible to put him down like in RE3 or else that would be some major BS to constantly deal with a Mr.X that sprints and fires rockets. Having said that, I think they would change the rocket dodges in RE3. Either Jill gets the ability to dodge outside of those cutscenes or the rockets get toned down. They were silly slow in RE3, so I'm expecting them to go fast like real rockets in REmake3.
>>16359843
I want more survivor interactions for Jill. She ran into a lot of them while she was running around. I'm also hoping Brad gets a bit more then just getting face fucked by Nemesis. Richard got more screen-time, so why can't Brad?
8080cd No.16359959
>>16359840
Mr.x following you around is a nice touch, but if they make nemisis constantly follow you around too, then that would suck, he can run, has a rocket launcher, has a tentacle transformation and most importantly he can die, i just hope they stick with the general feel of how nemesis was in RE3 instead of being another Mr.x but with a rocket launcher, i dont see how they can modernise him without it being unfun unless they bring in the dodge mechanic again. they'll probably fuck with mercenaries too
bc3a4f No.16359966
>>16359338
>>16359464
It's the only real horror game on the market that isn't OOOGABOOGA JUMP SCARES and SPOOKYMAN FOLLOWINGME bullshit.
Don't blame me, blame developers who completely forgot what atmosphere is. You can fire up Kuon and be creeped the fuck out before you even press start. The music, the design, the characters? Everything is in perfect balance for a chilling horror game experience. I fired up Zombi expecting it to be a hardcore, no bullshit surviving against zombies game. ( Woe is me for believing the internet that it was) Halfway through zombies gain magic powers, you're forced into heavily scripted situations and shit, but the game is still perma-death. Granted the game is easy as shit my expectations were dashed to shit.
Pardon my hyperbolic spastic reaction but fuck, the direction horror games went really percolates my coffee. And I have to blame fucking Streamers for speeding up the death of the horror genre. Nobody plays horror games for the experience anymore, it's all about getting views on Twitch or Youtube of some retard jumping and screaming. You can't experience horror fourth hand. Watching someone else enjoy the ambiance does nothing for you, you're just getting their reaction.
Anyway, fuck. I miss real horror games. The Soyboys at Sony forgot Until Dawn and Siren remake / Siren Rerelease existed so they haven't had a chance to ruin those games yet. Until Dawn is only mentioned because it has permadeath. Like Obscure, one of the best co-op horror games to ever come into existence with one of the best soundtracks since Silent Hill 2.
Knowing that your choices or failures can effect the game permanently adds an extra layer of tension- but expecting that from modern developers is going to drive me insane.
>There will never be a Rule of Rose re-release.
>There will never be a Kuon remaster.
>There will never be a Haunting Grounds re-release.
>Fatal Frame is dead and cucked.
I'll be in the corner cuddling my horror games as the world burns down around me.
>>16359464
Thank you. <3
625b95 No.16359970
>>16359966
Zombi was half good. Then that electro one shows up, you expect a massive paradigm shift but then it gets forgotten and never referenced again.
8080cd No.16360044
>>16359966
Why dont we just make our own horror games? but with gameplay and no pretentious bullshit?
88bd61 No.16360071
>>16359966
It sounds like you're into Clock Tower-esque games, but those games were big on a big bad chasing you around.
>co-op
>horror
Pick only one.
>>16360044
Go for it. It would probably be easier to make a game out of those "Choose your own adventure" Goosebump stories though. The camp one with zombies would be awesome.
bb8f72 No.16360209
So RE2 remake isn't survival horror but until dawn, a 'choose your own adventure' game is?
8327fc No.16360221
6e12c0 No.16360235
>No tank controls
>No fixed camera
>Survival game
Kill yourself, OP.
43d40e No.16360264
>>16360235
>tank controls and fixed camera are required for horror
Who died and made you fucking king of the zombies?
bc3a4f No.16360265
>>16360044
I am actually.
My current money making project is a shitty mobile game with very few adverts and a single 1 dollar micro transaction.
The logic is, if the game is fun and the transaction is reasonable, people will give me their shekels willingly.
Once I get the funding I need, I'll upgrade my computer to "Not shitting itself when running Unity" tier and finish working on my own horror game.
I made a beta that I'm absolutely not proud of in RPG maker. Once I get my horror game off the ground, I'm coming back here so everyone can laugh at me and call me a faggot.
Give me a few minutes and I'll post some of the enemy designs I came up with for the horror game. That said, doing everything by yourself on a busy schedule is absolutely mind rending. I can see why those japanese indie developers only make one or two games then burn themselves out.
>>16360071
Try out Obscure. The game actually made Co-op work. Normally, you control two characters at a time. When you plug in another controller, a second player can assist in enemy combat a lot easier than the ai would.
The issue was, the ai would waste flashlight power. With two people, you can have one person aim the flashlight to weaken the enemies and the other player can engage in combat or one person can do the shitty puzzle while the other defends from attacks.
6e12c0 No.16360299
>>16360264
>Implying it would be good otherwise
REshit 2 is shit.
bc3a4f No.16360304
>>16360265
I also realize I can't post most of this stuff without applying watermarks.
Converting my drawings into workable sprites was the death of me. I want to do it in 3D, but I don't want it to be cheesy.
2a5c63 No.16360309
>>16360235
>a game can't be survival horror without specific controls and a specific camera
6e12c0 No.16360313
>>16360309
Name a good survival horror that doesn't have those elemets.
1e6ab9 No.16360337
>>16360313
Haunting Ground.
9ad14f No.16360351
>>16360304
noice concept,
I'll call you a faggot once you get the shit together.
>mobile shit to fund real game
This is not uncommon to be honest, knew a gamedev(programmer) that wanted to work on real shit but was stuck with Mobile garbage. I tried to encourage him to stick with it for cash till other opportunists arose but he was getting mad bummed about it.
5a7e18 No.16360353
>>16360299
Did you even play it?
88bd61 No.16360355
>>16360304
That looks pretty neat. It reminds me of a 19th century prostitute. The ghoul being on her tippy-toes is a bit funny as well.
>>16360309
I agree with this. There is more to horror than tank controls and a specific fixed camera.
1ccbc8 No.16360365
>>16360313
The Clock Tower series seems popular. There was also Sweet Home. It's Indie pixelshit, but there's Lone Survivor. There are all those Amnesia clones, and the other first-person horror games (Of the non-shooter variety) that came before it like Echo Night: Beyond. Does Koudelka count since half of it's gameplay is full 3d SRPG? Also, I remember ''Corpse Party being pretty popular.
bc3a4f No.16360390
>>16360355
>>16360355
>It reminds me of a 19th century prostitute
Holy shit. Someone got it on first glance. I had to change her design several times, she was far too sexual.
8080cd No.16360399
>>16360071
i would but im making something else, and i have to think of a good horror setting
>>16360265
Cool, hope it turns out well
>I'm coming back here so everyone can laugh at me and call me a faggot.
only if it falls for the traps that every other RPG maker horror game has
>>16360313
i dont think those are exclusive to survival horror but that both the mechanics and survival horror genre died around the same time 3D started to get good
2a98d9 No.16360409
>>16357392
Amensia wasn't bad, I enjoyed it for what it was. Penumbra made me feel more alone though.
6e12c0 No.16360415
>>16360353
Yes, it's shit.
>>16360365
Alright, I'll concede Clock Tower and even Eternal Darkness.
0187b3 No.16360424
99b07e No.16360666
>>16359966
Fuck off you damn retard
0187b3 No.16361469
>>16357614
>>16357554
This is also all wrong.
>>16357016
Go all the way and make Claire a Castizo.
594ad4 No.16361535
>>16360390
I know read more Loomis is a meme regarding draw fags, but dude, you need to learn the basics. Like anatomy and how to build an undersketch as a foundation. I don't want to say you're out right tracing shit but…let me just say you aren't using references properly. The good thing is that working on the basics of how how the body is formed and how the pieces fit together in 3-d space is going to REALLY help you when you go to turn your concepts in sprites/rigs. And you clear have awesome ideas and will be able to 0retty share them. Yeah, dude, you have potential to really get gud but if you keep working on your flawed foundation you're doing yourself no favours. And what I'm saying has nothing to do with the twisting and stretching of the bodies into monsters, it's that you don't understand on a fundamental level how joints work and stuff like that. Hope to catch you in the draw threads!
e7eff2 No.16361621
>>16359966
my nigga
>really want to play kuon
>ps2 emulation has ghosting issues
>regular copies are 150+
why god why
886a46 No.16361681
>>16361621
Just tried it on OPL, works perfectly with mode1 enabled.
aa0fe2 No.16362349
>>16359836
>I'm trying to S on Hardcore Claire A
Man, I'm trying to get A right now on Hardcore Claire A, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right, if I just reached NEST at 2:20 hours will I make it? I'm assuming I got time to spare until I hit the 4 hour mark, but this is the first time I tried to sort of speedrun this game so I might be wrong.
8080cd No.16362487
>>16360304
>watermarks
Do people still steal other peoples art?
>>16361621
cant you just get a USB with the game and some software to enable you to play the game?
7ab773 No.16362799
Reminder that the muh immershun faggots caused the series to devolve into an Outlast clone, and only the valiant efforts of jap gamers (who actually love RE4-6) were able to bring it back to Remake 2 greatness.
Do not trust retrokids and artsy pretenders who want RE to be a horror movie, instead of simply a videogame about blasting biohazards.
7ab773 No.16362807
>>16360264
>where did you learn that RE should be a slow slog between scripted cinematics
From Jimquisition, Joystiq and HG101.
5a7e18 No.16362854
>>16362799
>faggots caused the series to devolve into an Outlast clone
Literally never happened.
90f50e No.16362878
>>16356913
>Despite your specific feelings on REmake 2
What? There are people her that don't like it? It's just a great game. Best RE game ever, really. Captured the spirit of the series while drastically improving the gameplay and graphics.
118a46 No.16362953
i really dont get survival horror as a genre. to me, if i want a game with added tension around limited resources and poor odds, then i'll just go with a very realistic game like a tactical shooter or something.
i dont get the appeal. who wants to be the helpless idiot in a cliche horror movie?
5a7e18 No.16363014
>>16362953
>who wants to be the helpless idiot in a cliche horror movie?
You arent, your characters can defend themeselves, but you have to mnage your resources or you will become the idiot (like the people that die ingame.
c4cf7d No.16363157
God dammit Leon, just fuck my sister already. Just one quick pump. It'll only take five minutes and then you can go. I'll raise the child myself if I have to. I'll even make her wear a red dress and call you "Reon." You must do it, Leon. The Redfield bloodline must continue!
0187b3 No.16363307
>>16363157
Why doesn't Chris create his own heir?
5a7e18 No.16363316
>>16363307
Capcom syndrome, they must remain asexual.
8da7ed No.16363317
>>16363307
Because they won't let him fuck Jill.
6c0781 No.16363333
This thread gave me flashbacks to when a friend of mine said Resident Evil is an action series. I died a little inside then.
>>16360044
I want to someday, but I only have actual concrete plans for a platformer and fighting game at the moment.
c4cf7d No.16363336
>>16363307
>>16363317
Are you insane? I could never ever have feelings for or be attracted to Jill or any other woman. It would be impossible for me to have sex with her. The only way is for you to fuck my sister. You have to, Leon, for the Redfield bloodline!
ebf850 No.16363341
>>16363317
So just headcanon it like most fandoms do.
0187b3 No.16363346
>>16363316
>no way fag
I would have plowed the President's Daughter thoroughly after putting up with all that bullshit and getting cucked by the Bitch in the Red Dress again. Leon is a fag. Capcom is retarded, you can't contain a man who punches boulders, Jill should have 5 kids by now.
I also don't have yellow fever and Claire has a nice ass.
8da7ed No.16363353
>>16363341
>headcanon it
No.
5a7e18 No.16363358
>>16363346
>Jill should have 5 kids by now.
The sad part is that she would probably be ok with that.
ebf850 No.16363478
>>16363346
Leon and Claire flirted in REmake 2 so along the line of the remake timeline, they might hook up.
0187b3 No.16363504
>>16363478
They did no such thing. Also Jesus Christ how terrifying.
4f2fcf No.16363519
>>16362487
>>16361681
>>16361621
https://revive.today/ps2/freehdboot-tutorial/
this softmod method will require a network adapter+IDE interface HDD
There's also the freemcboot method but you'll have to buy a memory card and a swap disc, following older guides
f8e79e No.16363553
>>16363478
Leon has better prospects.
169455 No.16363728
>>16363504
Stop posting weird angles of nuclaire with her mouth open, she's bad as-is
b45b05 No.16363734
>>16363728
Anon please be respectful. Silent Hill fans are still in grief they have to get enjoyment through other means as their favourite series is forever dead.
8da7ed No.16363750
>>16363728
So was it due to the engine, the actress they based her on, or the artists being shit? I never bothered to look into it, but I'm mildly curious as to how they fucked it up so badly.
f6df0a No.16363760
>>16363750
>So was it due to the engine, the actress they based her on, or the artists being shit?
Why not all three? Also, DMC5 uses the same engine.
5a7e18 No.16363763
>>16363750
The actress is cute, is both the engine and artists.
92470b No.16363770
>>16363553
>black
>>16363763
Nope. The artists aren't to blame for being accurate to her unaltered appearance.
1e6ab9 No.16363790
>>16363341
The games would need actual children, who grow up and become new protagonists. Like Sherry from RE2 grew up in RE6, Jake from RE6 is Wesker's son, and Nero in DMC4 & 5.
>>16363750
Even in REmake, Julia Voth's face was slightly altered for use in game for Jill's face. I think her nose and chin were changed, but I can't recall specifics. So, they probably messed with Claire's face as well, but they did way too much.
5a7e18 No.16363935
>>16363928
But it isnt, it has combat,variety of wepons and items, that makes anything but a walking sim, you absolute moron.
2a5c63 No.16363953
>>16363782
That's an edit though. The real one was also posted back on release.
4ece32 No.16364262
Of all genres ressurrected by indieshits, I'm fairly impressed that fixed camera horror wasn't one of them, I mean, it's braindead easy to code, the gameplay is so simple that is barely a walking simulator, needs almost no testing (with this I'm implying that they would focus more on silent hill clones then RE clones), and you can resort to lazy low poly with a plausible excuse.
Shit, the only excuse to not making one of those myself is because the main focus of the genre is sound design followed by good visual art, the two things I suck at most.
Pic related it's only exception I know and it was never finished.
2af835 No.16364272
>remakes
>teaching devs to make new games
>not just telling devs they can make the same game over and over and people will continue to buy it
Reminder that this is how bethesda gets away with selling skyrim 100 times to the same person.
88bd61 No.16364351
>>16363307
With who? Everyone he gets close to seems to fucking die.
>>16363316
If RE2's ending gets retconned with REmake2, Leon may end up with Claire and raise Sherry.
>>16363317
Jill is used goods. She was getting plowed by Carlos back in RE3 and got plowed by Wesker after her fall.
>>16363750
She looks weird in a few scenes when her mouth is wide open and she's yelling. A lot of people do. She looks fine as is.
>>16362349
Everywhere I look, it looks like we're expected to get to nest by like 1:45 at the latest. I'm getting to nest by like 2:05, which means that I need to beat NEST and the final two G fights in less than 25 minutes, which I don't think is possible for me. I personally wish zombies didn't have steel kneecaps in Hardcore. The runs seem to be getting faster the more I do it, so I'm hoping I'm able to get the time down soon. Also, make sure to clear the library. It saves a lot of time when Mr. X is chasing you and you won't have to worry about zombies fucking you up while you're trying to move the book shelves. Killing the two zombies outside of the west office helps a lot too. It'll make it easier to navigate when the licker shows up and they won't fuck you up when Mr. X is chasing you on your way to get the jack handle.
d3f09e No.16364361
>>16364262
Tank control is outdated as fuck gramps, let it die.
0187b3 No.16364399
>>16363953
It never ceases to amuse me.
>>16364351
Obviously Jill as she can't die either. Dude needs to fucking retire and put some babies in something. Jill didn't fuck Carlos, though Wesker probably raped her. Rebecca?
8da7ed No.16364503
>>16364351
>She looks fine as is.
Good one anon.
>>16364399
>put some babies in Jill
But Capcom says this is not allowed.
1aed79 No.16364540
5a7e18 No.16365237
>>16364351
>Jill is used goods
Well of course, shes 45 by now, even though it turns out she didnt have a boyfriend by 3 (the guy in the picture was a relative, now a doggo).
>She was getting plowed by Carlos back in RE3
No.
>and got plowed by Wesker after her fall
Maybe, mindfucked for sure
72aec7 No.16365241
How does Capcom feel when all it takes for a successful RE game is the same old gameplay, but in 3rd person and nice grafix?
Why can't they recognize this 10 years ago?
856d44 No.16365442
>>16363728
>>16364399
>>16363504
Why do I find Claire cute? I'm not even American.
067271 No.16365455
>>16357025
>despite it not being as scary as the 1998 classic.
I suspect we're just all 30 now and the franchise was never scary to an adult
853786 No.16366015
>>16365237
>Jill is 45
>Cat lady Jill
She had her chance to settle down and start a normal life like Rebecca. I wonder if she's even still alive? Wesker fucker her up for sure or else she would have been in RE6. Chris is still at it by RE7, so it would make sense as his work may be the only thing he has left
>No
Yes. Rebecca probably would have ended up with Billy had she not left to go explore the mansion in RE1. It doesn't help that Billy probably died in those woods. They were full of zombies, dogs and other monsters and Billy had only his feet to travel
>Maybe, mindfucked for sure
Wesker hated Chris. Fucking Jill, literally and figuratively would have been right up his alley.
>>16365455
It was terrifying as a small child, but the series stopped being scary by CV.
0187b3 No.16366202
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>>16366015
I never felt any real chemistry between Jill and Carlos. OG Barry and Jill had more chance of a romance.
And of course she's alive, the only good thing that can come storywise from some of these retcons that will likely come with this sort of reboot of the series is this whole shitty post CV timeline being erased.
>stopped being scary by CV
I'd argue that Outbreak had some good moments and RE4 had 4 and we all know why.
8b8f65 No.16366359
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>16366202
I lump Outbreak in with 2 and 3. CV was just odd, storywise. I'm hoping they do Remake3 then Outbreak, and then retcon everything afterwards. CV could then be remade as a Chris game and then let Claire raise Sherry in peace with Leon. He really needs to get over his yellow fever
Reanimators were fun enemies, because they would pop up in small rooms and had to be killed in a precise way.
>>16362349
Vid related should help. I've heard that knife damage is tied to frame rate, so boosting that and lowering your graphics should help as well.
5a7e18 No.16366377
>>16366015
Jill hasnt showed up since 5 because capcom has an internal shipping war going on with chris and jill, the director of 6 was so against it that piers was created.
And no, jill going on a boat trip with carlos isnt canon, she fucked off to russia with barry and chris after 3.
>>16365442
Depends on the camera angle really, anons overplay it.
>>16366359
CV really needs a rewrite, and we need the "take down umbrella" game.
0187b3 No.16366402
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>>16366377
Make Steve less of a faggot or get rid of him. Also Capcom is totally going to rape a lot of good things in retcons if they do it so don't get your hopes up to high. Resident Evil 3 is the only classic trilogy game that I wouldn't give a shit about in OTS as it was originally a spin off anyway.
>>16366377
Quit defending nuClaire you faggot. It doesn't matter what angle it's at, as soon as she's in motion it's mortifying.
176cc8 No.16366408
>>16365455
Resident evil was never scary anyway except RE1 and REMAKE on gamecube. Those games had atmospheric horror. For the most part the "horror" element of Resident evil comes from the bosses popping up out of nowhere or enemies doing jumpscare shenanigans.
8b8f65 No.16366704
>>16366402
>Quit defending nuClaire
She is cute and only looks poor in a couple of scenes where she's yelling.
>>16366377
>"take down umbrella" game
They could make it the new CV/4, where we get to follow Chris on his European adventure. It would be a good opportunity to wrap up all of the not-Umbrella agencies that Capcom has brought up over the years.
067271 No.16366974
>Jill meets a borderline shota in the Spencer Estate
>already infected, Jill can't bring herself to kill him
>she doesn't know he's one of the 1/100,000 who would get swole instead of going full zombie
>spry lad at first, blushes when he meets her
>stronger and more confident every time they meet
>shows up on the helipad with a spear from one of the many suits of armor
>impales tyrant, spearhead stuck in the accordion door to elevator pinning it in place for a rocket
after that
>hiding out in Jill's apartment
>nonstop T boosted boners, Jill insists she can't because she'd become a zombie
fast forward to August
>the T is free, they get separated
>meet him in the restaurant, roasting a hunter's legs
>split up when HBO bursts in
>meet up on the way back from the hospital
>takes turns with Carlos guarding her in the chapel
>separated by Showtime again when she wakes up
>meet again on the bridge, has a machete now
>fights a pack of hunters, promises to catch up in a few
>insists that the thermoberic missile will kill most of the zombies after Nicolai steals the helicopter and things aren't as bad as they seem
fast forward to remake 5
>Jill is not present
>off hand remark about her being a mother in dialog
this is a retcon I'd love to see
0187b3 No.16367322
>>16366704
She is ugly and only looks good on a situational basis using cam whore angles.
1e6ab9 No.16367739
>>16366974
What is this autism?
88bd61 No.16369132
>>16367322
She's cute and only looks less-so when she's angry. Her cheeks puff up too much then.
169455 No.16369355
>>16365442
Lots of anons find monstergirls cute.
a1c8f7 No.16375193
>>16373834
at suiciding.
Is there an easy way to burn down G3? I can dodge his attacks easily enough, but he takes forever to kill with Claire. I only found 12 or so magnum rounds, so I'm curious if there are more that I could have found. Thanks to the video posted above, G monsters aren't that bad now. The clusterfuck of zombies around the rook can be a pain. I may have to skip getting the smg to get my time lower, which will suck as it's really nice to have. I'll get that S+ eventually, but it can be a real pain in the ass when rng isn't being helpful
066f0b No.16376986
>>16360365
>Echo Night Beyond
Mein neger. More shit like this, like the Fatal Frames, and like Demento.
5121f5 No.16376995
>>16356913
Outlast sold like 10 million units, survival horror is already extremely popular, that's even the reason why RE7 was first person, and shit.
88bd61 No.16378174
There are a number of ways to cheese the G fights, which save an assload of time. G2 can actually be downed in one use of the shipping crate if enough damage is done to him. G3 can be stun locked by Claire and burned to death by Leon. G4's life is based on how many times all of its eyes have been popped. This means that grenades are the way to beat it. It's crazy how much time and ammo can be saved once G's bs is better understood. Random deaths to zombies that decide to do something random is pretty bs.
>>16360365
Corpse Party for the Vita was neat.
c55da3 No.16379840
>RE2 question
How does Leon deal with lickers in hardcore? Claire can two shot them with flame rounds and stun-lock them in general, but Leon’s shotgun doesn’t even seem capable of stunning them.
a59449 No.16379880
>>16366974
Fuck off with your self insert fanfic.
7e0647 No.16379964
>>16379840
Use stun grenades on them. You don't even have to fight them. Its better not to anyways since you'll save yourself a shitload of ammo.
Alternatively you can just use the magnum to kill them in like 3 hits.
9118fc No.16381145
>>16379964
Thanks. I wanted to kill the ones that often get in the way when Mr. X shows up. They are the lickers outside the STARS office, the west hallway, and the armory. The one outside the armory isn’t too bad as I don’t spend that much time around him when I do have to return there. The one outside the STARS office is a pain in the ass as the hallway is long and Mr. X can be pretty fast. The same goes for the west hallway on the first floor, but there are also regular zombies that like to block up that hallway to hell as well. I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but it was really nice as Claire to just stun them while I was running with a grenade to the face if necessary. The only other lickers that I liked to kill were the pair that showed up in NEST and that’s because they loved to block me in and it was a pain in the ass when both were alive at the same time.
7e0647 No.16384242
>>16381145
Good luck. It would take too long to write all the little strategies I've come up with to beat the game below 2:30 on hardcore. Perhaps one day I'll make a chart about it.
Post back here if you do end up beating it underneath 2:30. Just remember. Aim for the kneecaps and just run by when they flinch don't bother with taking out their legs. Wastes too much ammo and time.
1e6ab9 No.16388090
>>16387696
Impressive for 5 months.
9118fc No.16388391
>>16384242
I beat Leon with an S+ rating at 2:21. I got to g3 with like 20 minutes left, so I had to play very aggressively. I unloaded my flamethrower into him and used my shotgun to pop his eyes. He went down really fast when I was being more aggressive. Super Tyrant killed me once, because he used his super charge when I was just outside of melee range. By the time my flash grenade went off, I was impaled. The second time through, G3 went down fast again and Super Tyrant fell as well. I weaved into melee range to bait his combo attacks and then I quickly moved back out of his range while circling him. I brought the magnum against him as I heard that staggering him 3 times drastically reduces the amount of time you need to spend dodging him. When he did his super charge this time, I was further away and I started chucking flash grenades. I think the first one went off a little early, but the second one stopped him before he could start running. I had the shield herbs on, so I was able to tank a few swings if necessary.
I for sure thought 20 minutes wasn’t going to be enough to beat it, but it was nice to be proven wrong. In retrospect, I fee that Claire really is the easier run. She doesn’t have to deal with Mr. X for as long. Her grenades will stun lock enemies and even G himself. She also doesn’t deal with as many dogs as Leon does. The dogs that she faces outside the orphanage really aren’t as bod as I thought they were, because they like to line up with Claire when they first start attacking and this lets you shoot them 4 times. The dogs Leon faces inside are running around like they’re on crack. I went through a lot of healing items on the prison escape, because I only brought one grenade and the fuckers would not stagger. The alligator is easy once you realize that it always follows a set pattern. Ada’s section is easy now that I know what to do before I need to do it. It’s hell when you’re looking for the right generator to light up the exit and Mr. X is on you as well. The licker outside the STARS office is a real pain in the ass as Leon. You can’t run and odds are that Mr. X is on you, so you’re going to take a truckload of damage as Leon can’t stagger them. The shotgun is amazing though. It just murders zombies when I need them dead and the ammo is pretty plentiful even on hardcore. G1 is a pain in the ass as Leon, but the rest are pretty simple.
It was fun getting the S+ with both Leon and Claire. It feels so good to shoot rockets down the throats of enemies. I absolutely murder every licker I see now with it now. I’m currently giving the extra modes a go. Going in blind has been pretty painful, but I’m sure I’ll figure out a good route for Hunk and friends. Mr.X can suck a bag of dicks though. He punched right into the plants while I was trying to stagger them
311257 No.16389000
Very likely, but I hope not. Most developers are shit and will only destroy the genre even further like the trendy locust they are.
7e0647 No.16389081
>>16388391
Congrats anon. Proud of ya
now do a no saves run :^)
adbd55 No.16407201
>>16356913
>RE2 sells 3 milion in a week
>DMC5 sells 2 million in a month
We never stood a chance, didn't we?