45a8f9 No.16296752
Why of all the asscreeds to remaster they chose this one? I remember when it came out it was pretty meh, nothing really stood out and its pretty odd that they pull this one out of nowhere. Is jewbisoft™ too lazy to put in any thought into which games deserve remasters?
ef6457 No.16296794
>>16296752
Pretty sure this marxist historical revision and the other named Rogue played like dogshit on the PS3, alongside Fallout NV and others. In III's defense, it is the last time date wise that is interesting.
ccb868 No.16296803
>Have one game take place in the most beautiful city in the world, then switch it up mid-game for some bullshit backwards city, then the most stupid city in existence with one nice basilica
>Even by these standards, fuck it up by going burger
I have no words, man.
e79a85 No.16296809
Haythem was actually an interesting character it would have been better if he was the main character.
f8e50e No.16296847
>>16296809
But he is
t. baneposting pro
64ca0d No.16296864
Maybe they want to make Washington into a plumphf allegory?
bd98e1 No.16296888
The only reason they chose this over 2/Brotherhood is that the graphics are still just barely acceptable and they don't have to create new models/animations.
I still kind of enjoyed it.
I'd buy it if it had multiplayer. But it won't. Guess people who played it didn't fall for the microtransactions. I know I didn't.
e46d73 No.16296985
>>16296752
any game that lets me beat up limey fucks is fine by me.
6653ef No.16297010
>>16296864
Didn't they already do that by making shit dlc where Washington is some kind of dictator trying to rule the world?
8cfcbc No.16297124
>>16296752
>when it came out it was pretty meh
So it's by far the best asscreed game?
58b2e5 No.16297144
>>16296752
Perhaps it's because it feels more "feature complete". ACIII certainly has more going to it than the previous entries, even if most of the added features are mobile-tier, repetitive and wasted potential. At the very least, it feels like the closure of the trilogy because everything that came after was boring, overproduced trash.
45a8f9 No.16297179
>>16297124
I enjoyed brotherhood far more and imho its the best asscreed. Everything after is complete unplayable garbage. Also another aspect I enjoyed that was butchered after the ezio trilogy ended and doesnt get talked about a lot was the multiplayer. I have fond memories playing the multiplayer in brotherhood with friends way back, I dont think there were any other multiplayer modes in any other ac games, but I think that was one of the things that made me like ac bro even more over ac2.
b1b9c8 No.16297221
>>16296752
Look at it this way, what made the original bad? What is a remaster going to add? Probably better graphics and some useless features nobody needs. That's all you need to know, the remaster is going to suck.
That's the case with all the remasters. The originals missed something big, like… a better story or some shit like that and a remaster is not going to add that.
96e7b3 No.16297521
>>16297179
>black flag
>rogue
>origins or odyssey
don't get me wrong anon, i enjoyed brotherhood but the above games i listed have far superior gameplay. also unity was the last to have multiplayer iirc, though it was just co-op.
b1b9c8 No.16297547
>>16297521
Whats up with all these anons shilling modern ac? Pretty sure it was widely accepted that Black Flag is the last good AC, and also because half of the time you didnt play as an Assassin. How can you defend modern AC?
e78a65 No.16297567
Am I the only one that liked the first AC the best?
>>16297547
seriously, i don't understand how anyone defends modern AC
96e7b3 No.16297579
>>16297547
because the gameplay is better than it ever was. syndicate was the last game to use arkham combat. origins and odyssey have actual fighting, with weapon/gear stats, parrying, better engine/graphics, skill trees, shit /v/ loves in games for the most part. yes, the story is now marxist trash but nobody plays games for the story, that's what normalfags and reddittors do. black flag got a shitload of praise because the gameplay was pretty much the perfect pirate simulator.
d3bead No.16297591
Assassin's Creed III was the most ambitious game in the series. Too bad it didn't turn out all that well. The sailing in III remains much better compared to Black Flag, Rogue and Odyssey.
96e7b3 No.16297595
>>16297591
>The sailing in III remains much better compared to Black Flag, Rogue and Odyssey
wut
black flag took 3's ship shit and improved it twicefold, and rogue was a ctrl+v of that. odyssey is mostly the same but with a few restrictions because of leveled combat.
d3bead No.16297608
>>16297595
Assassin's Creed III had the best naval combat in the entire franchise and it's only gone downhill ever since Black Flag. Winds had significant impact on maneuverability and speed in III, more so than the following AC games with naval combat. You also had storms and rogue waves which drastically slowed down ships compared to the later games. Effectively utilizing different shot types (like chained shots) would chew up sails in III and could completely incapacitate a ship. Swivel guns in III could miss and you actually had to reload them, but Black Flag minimized player input in this regard. And in III you could destroy ships in a variety of ways. If you shot the bow of a ship in III you had a chance at exposing the enemy's powder storage, and targeting the powder storage would blow up the ship, but this was removed in IV. And then the ship crew in III was much more lively. Ubisoft actually took the time to animate people walking about on the deck or climbing on the rigging, adjusting the sails, or reloading the canons, when all of this stuff is removed in IV and Rogue.
I can't remember if it was IV or Rogue which added the cartoonish ramming ability where you'd magically speed up. Pretty sure it was Rogue. I hate that Ubisoft casualized the sailing to appeal to a broader audience, much like they casualized the stealth in the Ezio series compared to the original Assassin's Creed. The only things the Ezio games had going for them were the multiplayer.
b1b9c8 No.16297609
>>16297579
>because the gameplay is better than it ever was
But the gameplay was never good. People didn't play AC for the combat or gameplay but for the story. They kind of raped the story in ACIII, and BF had almost nothing of the original story at all.
>nobody plays games for the story
What's wrong with playing games for the story? Half Life wouldn't be as popular as it is if it didn't have it's story. Deep lores and interesting stories make bad games good.
>skill trees, shit /v/ loves
The way you said that makes you sound like a outsider. But beside that, a skill tree alone is not enough, it has to be deep and good too. Borderlands 2 has a skill tree too, but that game still sucks because the skill tree is crap.
d3bead No.16297613
>>16297608
It also helped that the sailing in III was level based whereas in IV, Rogue and Odyssey it's all open world.
96e7b3 No.16297634
>>16297608
>when all of this stuff is removed in IV and Rogue
it's been a while since i've played 4 and rogue but i swear the crew had animations for that shit. i know they move about in origins/odyssey
>stealth
that's another thing, from unity and onward the games have actual stealth to them and not just shitty tailing missions where you hide in a crowd or behind a building
also everything you're talking about 3 having in ship combat is far more casualized than in later AC games. black flag and odyssey put a lot more depth into ship combat.
>>16297609
>outsider
not an outsider, i just don't post here often because the userbase is cancer, and so i don't speak the lingo as well as regulars.
>>16297613
odyssey has leveled ships and regions, combined with the same upgrades from 3 and onward make ship combat much more challenging, even with shit like ramming or weak spots to shoot
goddamn it, i know i sound like an immense shill, but it always pains me to see typical /v/irgins shitting on these games when they sound like they've played them for all of 15 minutes and haven't sunk hours to get a fuller experience. or even worse, they surf subreddits for shit to harp on. personally i hope they bring back multiplayer, an AC game with current combat and online would be some tight shit.
1f31d6 No.16297637
Since we're on the subject of AC, is anyone ever going to finish translating the manga?
1f31d6 No.16297641
>>16297634
>i just don't post here often because the userbase is cancer
Then, why are you here?
96e7b3 No.16297647
>>16297641
>implying you can leave
b1b9c8 No.16297651
>>16297641
>>16297634
I rarely post here for the exact same reason, and I must say that I am happier the further away I am from this place.
3de88b No.16297666
>>16297547
Black Flag isn't a good AC game. It's a good pirate game.
45a8f9 No.16297702
>>16297547
I dunno why anons here like to shill nu-asscreeds when the last decent one was black flag. From Unity on it completely soiled the whole franchise for me and the way they fucked with every aspect of it turning it into a completely different series just with the ac name on it. Makes my blood boil how people defend nu-ac that they view unity onward as "good" when that game and its successors raped the series into oblivion for me.
6c2cd2 No.16297739
>>16297702
asscreed was never good. at best, II and IV had some good ideas, which the rest of the series milked, but they were only ever mediocre at best. the stealth is and has always been shit. the same goes for the combat. the parkour was fun but pointless because those climbing mechanics were never used to give the player interesting gameplay scenarios beyond a few timed challenges here and there. the open world aspects sucked the most, nobody wants to collect 100 feathers or skin animals for weapons that don't do shit to alter the primary combat in any meaningful way. naval combat was a nice diversion from the shit tailing missions and garbage combat, but even that shit got old after a while. ubishit doesn't know how to make a game that has interesting gameplay mechanics that have lasting appeal. instead, they make half baked movies with shit gameplay that drains the soul.
good things about asscreed:
>puzzles
>assassin tombs
>parkour
shit things about asscreed:
every fucking thing else
96e7b3 No.16297770
>>16297739
parkour was at its height in 2, with climb jumping. they removed it after revelations iirc and since then it's been streamlined to hell. the only improvements in later games was less bugs with randomly connecting to shit you weren't looking at, and being able to climb more environmental shit, like cliffs.
715560 No.16297782
i don't even give a fuck about this franchise lmoa
f8e50e No.16297811
>>16297579
>arkham combat
It's bamham that uses asscreed combat
96e7b3 No.16297846
>>16297811
i know but the style of gameplay is generally referred to as arkham combat since the arkham series popularized the ever-loving hell out of it, as well as inspiring combat clones out the ass.
f8e50e No.16297893
>>16297846
Which series sold the most copies? I'm betting on asscreed
64ca0d No.16297898
>>16297651
>>16297634
Who'd have thought faggots with shit enough taste to ever like any Asscreed game get buttpained about this place. Back to resetera with you.
0a8262 No.16297929
>>16296752
Wasn't it their best selling one? Could have swore it was. I also remember thinking it looked like it was going to be the best one yet but then I just stopped caring about the series anyways so last one I ever played was AC2.
Which of these games are worth playing and which aren't? Seems its really the same thing across most of the games. AC2 was nice fun but at this point I feel that these games may be pointless to get into if they are largely the same thing across all games.
3d218c No.16297930
The only ones I've actually enjoyed were Brotherhood and Revelations, because I didn't even play the singleplayer mode, but the competitive multiplayer was a shitload of fun. AC3 then tried to overcomplicate the whole deal, and basically killed the community, and while IV's multiplayer was much better, the damage was already done. But all the retards at ubisoft had to do was copy Shadow of Mordor, nemesis system and all and just slap a historical skin over it, and it would've sold shitloads.
6bcfef No.16297956
AC3 was the first assassin's creed game that REALLY got into the normalfag's line of sight when it came out due to a very strong marketing campaign. It's why they remember it "fondly" when it really is the shittiest assCreed game I've ever played (when I use to play them in High School).
Still feels too soon for a remaster, and it's honestly not worth one. The visuals were fine, but there were some annoying bugs like an upgrade towards the end where you can hold two pistols was fucked where you can only use one of them. Infuriating
0a8262 No.16297979
>>16297956
>AC3 was the first assassin's creed game that REALLY got into the normalfag's line of sight when it came out due to a very strong marketing campaign.
It escalated but I'm pretty positive that the previous games were also very popular and tons of normalfags were playing them. Especially since AC2 at the time was seen as a big upgrade from the first game yet still stuck to the roots of what the first game was about. I remember finding the first game disappointing due to how overhyped it was and I take blame for putting so much faith in it as well but AC2 despite being largely similar to a fault even did feel like a much better, more content rich game than the first one.
AC3 did definitely have a huge marketing campaign behind it though.
ca1885 No.16298007
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>>16296752
>Why of all the asscreeds to remaster they chose this one?
They already did a "remaster" of the Ezio trilogy.
3d218c No.16298021
>>16298007
>the remaster has worse shadows and lighting than the original
>they try to hide it by increasing the contrast
wew
lad
45a8f9 No.16298043
>>16297929
>Which of these games are worth playing and which aren't?
Ac 2, Brotherhood and Blackflag. These are the highest points the series have to offer, everything else can be ignored but if you wanna play the rest of the games play anything but Unity and onward.
3ba1f5 No.16298121
>tfw replayed fucking Unity after shilling for it
My God, it's so fucking bad and it needs a lot more fixes than I thought. The biggest problem is that none of it's "gameplay" is actually gameplay. The challenge doesn't exist in the mechanics, but in piecing together the information and formulating a plan that may or may not incorporate said mechanics. The parkour and environmental and social stealth are means to achieve that goal, but they are mistaken for being the gameplay because the scenarios aren't interesting or dynamic enough.
Speaking of parkour, it is only good for escaping and not for stealth. The system doesn't understand precision and gentleness, but it at least does things a little better. They should've used a more passive system like having the computer calculate a path based on a focal point.
Best AssCreed is Middle-Earth: Shadow of War. Don't bother even touching this franchise unless you're tossing it in a fire. Or if you ever want to try the actually fun online component, you can pick up the one that is still active. Ubisoft is dumb to not make a ftp version.
3ba1f5 No.16298143
>>16296752
Also, AssCreed III is probably the most ambitious AssCreed there is, so I have some respect for it. It tried to reinvent combat, the Brotherhood, economy, and stealth while adding a bunch of features like hunting, ship battles, and trading. It's bad, but it had vision even if it was almost all scrapped in subsequent releases.
45a8f9 No.16298158
One thing I will never understand why the devs changed desmonds fucking goofy face every game making it look more stupid with each sequel, and then they ditch his plotline just because.
>>16298143
>Also, AssCreed III is probably the most ambitious AssCreed there is, so I have some respect for it.
True, the hunting mechanics, tree climbing, and the ability to hang patrolling redcoats on a treebranch with a rope was all pretty fun.
3ba1f5 No.16298190
>>16298158
They clearly wanted to cast Nicolas Cage in the eventual movie.
000000 No.16298231
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>>16296752
Ass Creed 3 was probably the point where the series REALLY went downhill. Before that, the games were still basically shit (how the fuck is it possible that the older Prince of Persia games have parkour mechanics that blow ANY of the AC games out of the water?) but they had potential. AC3 is where Ubisoft firmly doubled down on simplifying everything to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Combat, which was already really fucking easy, was dumbed down to the extent where you could slice through two dozen enemies of all types in less than 10 seconds just by using three buttons (makes me wonder what the point is of all the different weapons with different stats when all of them can counter and chain kill and all firearms can one-shot most enemies anyway). And the open-world cancer that had been introduced with Brotherhood and Revelations just got worse with more pointless crap stuffed in there.
North America was also a piss-poor choice for a setting, there's nothing fucking there, no interesting ruins or catacombs or temples to explore, no cool ancient architecture like you could find in Damascus, Venice or Constantinople, just endless fields of boring grassland for miles around. To top that off, an entire HALF of the game's story is dedicated to following around Haytham and showing us the backstory of how he assembled the Templars. The problem is, this doesn't serve the main story in any fucking way and it doesn't come into play later at all. It's literally just pointless setup so you could see the game's antagonists for 20 minutes before killing them instead of the usual AC manner of introducing them 3 minutes before you plunge a blade in their throats. I enjoy Haytham's upper-class dickwad act as much as anyone but it doesn't change the fact that playing as him serves absolutely no purpose aside from Ubisoft going "Gotcha, bitch! You thought you were playing as an Assassin but you were actually a Templar all along!", which might have been interesting if they actually stuck with it for the whole game and the Templars were the protagonists.
Also, the remaster looks shit and gay. Ubisoft literally just copy-pasted the original models into a new engine, which is why Haytham's face looks like something an ogre shat out then shaped human features out of.
6ca4ce No.16298238
>>16297591
All AssCreeds are trash. All of them.
ca1885 No.16298252
>>16298231
> was dumbed down
I disagree, the combat was actually made a bit more complex in 3(still piss easy), by having strong enemies you couldn't counter, and instead had to stun with the use of a second button. The chain killing was introduced in Brotherhood, where you could kill 30 enemies with the press of the same button 30 times. Again, still piss easy, but it wasn't dumbed down.
000000 No.16298281
>>16298252
>I disagree, the combat was actually made a bit more complex in 3(still piss easy), by having strong enemies you couldn't counter, and instead had to stun with the use of a second button.
These kinds of enemies were also present in the older games and were introduced as far back as AC2 (might have even been in AC1, memory fails me there). Countering, while not super-tricky, also required precise timing in older games, from AC3 onward, you had a huge window of time for you to press E, at which point the game slowed down, giving you even MORE time to execute a kill or a stun or whatever. Countering was already OP but AC3 made it so easy that even a clinical moron with piss-poor motor skills could become an unstoppable killing machine.
000000 No.16298366
>>16296752
It is Ubishit, anon.
77650f No.16298392
>>16296803
also
>Lets do a story about native Americans, but use the dumb fuck nomadic barbarians living in fucking teepees instead of any of the places that would not only allow for parkour game play but were famous for being linked to all sorts of ancients astronauts type shit
They totally missed a huge opportunity by not doing something involving the aztec and conquistadors instead of the plains Indians.
7415b3 No.16298396
I unironically think the PSP asscreed was pretty fun.
fc7681 No.16298406
>>16298121
>The biggest problem is that none of it's "gameplay" is actually gameplay. The challenge doesn't exist in the mechanic
AssCreed games have no challenge. They're games for braindead normalfags that play themselves. They do nothing well, there is no stealth (or reason to be stealthy). The biggest draw would be navigating a historical setting, but Ubisoft shits that up every time with their Marxist politics and retarded overarching plot about ayys.
It's like they don't understand that AssCreed 1 was barely more than a tech demo, and the franchise has barely moved since, just adding more pointless clutter on top without ever fixing the core issues of the franchise.
000000 No.16298435
>>16298121
I'll say this for Unity, it's the only entry in the series which actually tried to be a stealth game. You can't get into huge fights without being overwhelmed and murdered in minutes and the assassinations are actually at least set up in such a way as to encourage being sneaky about it. It's still hugely flawed but it was a step in the right direction which they again botched with Syndicate and then completely disregarded with Origins onward.
61503e No.16298456
I've only played Assassins Creed 1 on the grounds that it would be the modern Sly Cooper and instead I got what's basically the mobile, open world version of Prince of Persia and I fucking hated it. Are any of the other games worth playing or are they more of the same?
>>16297010
I don't know if it's by pure luck or design but I've never come across a trump allegory in a video game yet.
fc7681 No.16298463
>>16298456
More of the same. The sequels barely attempt to fix the glaring flaws of the original (easy gameplay, shit combat, empty world with nothing to do), usually by throwing more retarded shit on top that ultimately boils down to the same. The most recent titles have "fixed" the combat by badly aping the Souls games.
As for the narrative, AC1 was the high point of the franchise. It's been a sharp nosedive ever since.
f8e50e No.16298488
>>16297956
Nigger AC1 got a whole page (maybe 2) on the FUCKING GAMESTOP ad catalog just before coming out
9c2c23 No.16298518
>>16297898
>get buttpained about this place
If you unironically enjoy this place you are probably a huge faggot. There is nothing good about /v/. The rts threads are boring, webm threads are gay, racing threads are basically always the same. There is nothing good to ever come out of this place. Unless of course you love gay shit like anime, but that makes you a huge faggot anyway.
fbb1af No.16298527
>>16298392
>plains Indians
They had impressive structures. Problem is there would be tons of speculation about their cosmetics and no excuse to put templars vs. jesus thing
37c8bf No.16298558
Isn't it the most succesful one sales-wise?
37c8bf No.16298559
>>16296888
they already remastered Ezio-collection 2 years ago.
96e7b3 No.16300398
>>16298435
try odyssey anon, you will get shiprekt if you try to just run into a crowd of enemies, even if they're the same level as you or just a little bit higher. you're on the money about syndicate though.
7fca59 No.16300422
only thing changed seems to be the lighting and volumetric fog
instead of gray filter its brown filter now, oh good they finally reached 2013 again
0850e8 No.16300477
>"Should we remaster the one game everyone loves?"
>"Nah lets remaster the one everyone hates"
Bravo Ubisoft.
a7b895 No.16300487
>>16296752
>Why of all the asscreeds to remaster they chose this one?
They've already "remastered" the Ezio games and Rogue.
96e7b3 No.16300491
>>16300477
black flag is on current gen consoles and thus is not in need of a remaster. the graphics also still hold up.
9c2c23 No.16300617
They need to work on their multiplayer, that shit was pretty fun in brotherhood. But it becomes boring once people figure out all the op content, like being invulnerable on certain spots, or the fucking pistol that can kill people miles away.
b082c6 No.16300624
>>16297637
It's already been translated officially. I am going to upload the volumes later but I'm having some troubles today on my end. Maybe tomorrow in the share thread.
d2cc04 No.16300701
just give me the brotherhood + III multiplayer more fleshed out and its own game for like $5-10
i remember Wanted being pretty good for MP
0ac7f4 No.16301716
Unity is so goddamn underrated. The animations for everything were the most cohesive in the series by a county mile. The controls for parkour were actually intuitive and seamless instead of just getting awkwardly sucked from one surface onto another. The co-op was engaging and super fun. The story is as passable as any other entry, some others being far worse. Yet it ignored like an unwanted stepchild. Never understood that.
3d218c No.16301721
>>16300617
>pistol
Yeah, but bipping people with the pistol gave you the minimal 100 points on a kill, so it was practically worthless. Smokebomb+poison was the real game killing cancer, because if you had both off cooldown, you could get absolutely fucking free 700-1100 point kills.
3ba1f5 No.16301751
>>16301716
Unity is underrated in relation to the other AssCreeds, but it is a garbage game. The main story is terrible, and far worse than anything else. It does have a considerable amount of side content, however. The murder mysteries, riddles, and heists are where the game really does its best. Never tried the coop because I pirated it, but it seems like it'd be fun.
9bfb3d No.16301754
>>16300477
>"Let's also remaster Liberation twice while we're at it."
>( Liberation HD & Liberation Remastered )
fba5f5 No.16301795
>>16300617
Is it me, or does her outfit seems like something out of a JRPG?
45a8f9 No.16301829
>>16301751
Coop was buggy as shit like most of the game but playing any game with a friend can make even a shit game seem better than what it really is.
0ac7f4 No.16301863
>>16301751
The side content made up for what the main narrative lacked in comparison to the best in the series (and I use the term best in a highly relative sense). The controls and animation was still top-tier and far above anything else in the series, especially the two newest entries where your character feels like a weightless, awkward mess with no impact or effect on the environment. The above anon mentions the co-op as buggy - perhaps at launch it was and/or stayed that way for consoles, but on PC it played just fine, and I logged a good few hundred hours. It's an underrated game. A 9 or 10/10? God no. But underrated.
45a8f9 No.16301903
>>16301863
I didnt play the game way after when the bugs were/if? ironed out but from what I remember unity was by far the most buggiest pos ive ever played in a videogame to this day. The game was infamous for its bugs.
3ba1f5 No.16301971
>>16301903
Only bug I've really experienced is that some characters lost their hair, but that was only for a single sequence. Unity doesn't really have many bugs at this point and the performance seems to be a lot better. It still has some awful pop-in, but that's it.
>>16301863
>The controls and animation was still top-tier and far above anything else in the series
Far above anything else in the series? Yes. Top-tier? Far from it. The parkour works well enough with movement, but not for stealth. Nevertheless, it really could've been a great game and it's maddening how much wasted potential it has.
d822a2 No.16301985
Got it for Christmas whatever year it came out and still haven't played it. Was going to after I beat Revelations but never have after 2 attempts. Fell asleep both times since it was so boring.
9bfb3d No.16302008
>>16297591
They already made a Rogue remaster and an AC2/Brotherhood/Revelations remaster. All I need now is a Black Flag remaster to complete the set.
96e7b3 No.16302901
>>16301754
liberation hd was hardly a remaster, they just gave it higher resolution and as an excuse to resell it for pc/consoles. this time it's an ackshual remaster.
>>16301903
unity still has bugs but it's in a much more playable state now.
27b912 No.16302906
>>16302008
I hope you pirated that set, anon. Because you deserve the rope if you willingly give money to Ubishit in CY+4
96e7b3 No.16302922
>>16302008
>>16297591
ranked according to gameplay and gameplay alone, so don't get upsetti spaghetti
d3bead No.16303283
>>16297634
>it's been a while since i've played 4 and rogue but i swear the crew had animations for that shit
Then it's time to revisit the Kenway saga and you'll see. In III you had crew members running above and below decks to distribute cannonballs. The canons recoiled when you fired them in III and the gunners had to reposition them and reload.
>i know they move about in origins/odyssey
The crews in Origins and Odyssey stand about as though they were laymen. They only move when you command them to fire a volley of arrows and aside from bracing they never react to anything. Even if you ram into a ship the archers don't fall over. Crew in the Kenway games could fall over in reaction to heavy winds/storms and combat. Even when you command someone to unfurl the sails or lower speeds in Origins and Odyssey there isn't anyone standing by the main mast of the ship to adjust the rigging.
>odyssey has leveled ships and regions, combined with the same upgrades from 3 and onward make ship combat much more challenging, even with shit like ramming or weak spots to shoot
When I say that III's naval was level based and IV/Rogue/Odyssey is open world I mean that III had individual levels/missions which loaded separately from the open world, much like the two or three Aya naval missions in Origins. Just because the games from III onward supposedly build upon the naval combat by including similar upgrades doesn't make the naval combat more challenging. Again, I'll reiterate. Different shot types in Assassin's Creed III had a distinct purpose as ships had more variable damage points. You could use chain shots to target sails and completely destroy the rigging, bringing the ship to a standstill, whereas in IV or Rogue it doesn't really matter if you use chain shot or round shot as you'll end up with similar results to cripple a ship no matter what. Black Flag and Rogue forced you to fire chain shots from the bow chaser whereas in III you could fire chain shots from the broadside canons. There were so many useful shot types in III that had a purpose, like the grapeshot which could take care of groups of small ships instantly, or the heated shot which you could use to start hull fires on enemy ships to kill off enemy infantry on larger ships with ease.
IV, Rogue, Origins and Odyssey all have worse naval combat that's more arcadey and less realistic compared to the naval combat seen in III. Ships all move faster in the later games while waves, wind direction and wind speed had more significant impact on your maneuverability in III. Sail a square rigged ship directly into the wind in IV or Rogue and there are no repercussions. Reload times for the canons in III were much longer and with the wind you had to consider your position to get an advantage over the enemy. The only good improvement that Ubisoft added to the core naval combat after III were the seamless boarding actions. Resource clutter/grinding for materials in an unrealistically populated sea, projectile paths, mortar spam in IV and Rogue, all nonsense.
465455 No.16303298
Having played the first few Ass Creed games, I don't see what people like in them. They're all so fucking repetitive and bad.
c72729 No.16303302
>people on /v/ are acting like there are any good Assassin's Creed games
NO
I DO NOT ACCEPT THIS
THIS IS A TERRIBLE FUCKING SERIES AND YOU HAVE AWFUL TASTE
603a45 No.16303308
>>16302922
>gameplay and gameplay alone
What's your favorite fetish? cuckolding?
bc60cb No.16303323
>>16302922
>Odyssey
The Dark Souls of AssCreeds.
603a45 No.16303327
>>16301721
But nobody get's the full points when everyone plays like total retards. ACIII was the last AassCreed I have played online, and even that one is pretty old. I don't remember everything that well anymore, but remember in one of them Everyone would just camp on the same rooftop. They could then shot everyone who came near that rooftop down or stun them before they even got up there. I honestly only enjoyed their multiplayer in the early days of brotherhood when nobody knew how it worked and people actually hid in crowds and tried to sneak around.
89052b No.16303346
>>16297591
Garbage list, only thing I agree with is BF being god tier and Syndicate being trash. Unity tried to improve the combat but instead made it even worse, Rogue was fantastic, Asscreed 1 was an okay proof of concept, AC III had a few interesting ideas but was only enjoyable post game, AC II had a fantastic atmosphere and an amazing soundtrack, Origins was okay too but they ruined the climbing, haven't played Odyssey but it looks like it's just a straight copy of Origins, Brotherhood was II but better in absolutely every way except for the atmosphere, Revelations wasn't a bad game, Turkey looked great.
603a45 No.16303361
>>16303346
>Unity tried to improve
why do you even touch AC after BF? It was already clear that the devs are left leaning in the early versions. ACIII was total cancer because of the devs political believes and it got only worse in Black Flag. The only thing that made bf good was it's gameplay.
bea87e No.16303370
>>16296752
This was the first Asscreed I couldn't force myself to finish. Everything about it was dogshit. I tried Black Fag afterwards but got bored a few hours in and dropped it as well (don't know what you faggots see in it). I tried Rouge and actually finished it (writing was less pozzed since you were supposed to be the bad guy), but it was still painfully mediocre in every way. Haven't bothered with any asscreed since.
Also if anyone makes le ebin chart and places the first AC anywhere but the bottom, he is a certified retard who either didn't play it or forgot just how ridiculously SHIT the missions were. You kept doing the exact same shit over and over, as in completely gneeric bussywork like "eavesdrop for the tenth time on some random faggots on the street" before being allowed to finally take out the mark, which itself was a cakewalk. It didn't have anything the sequels didn't gameplay-wise; it is objectively shittier in every way imaginable except maybe the writing.
3ba1f5 No.16303384
>>16302922
Honestly, Rogue seemed to have slightly better gameplay that Black Flag. It also had very fluid parkour compared to the other games because of scripted sequences.
7d3cee No.16303390
Fuck Odyssey and everything about it. Especially it's "war" system being the biggest fucking bait i've experienced.
>played AC Brotherhood
>Liked how you can call in your assassins for help
>said assassins can actually fight and even die
>fast forward to Odyssey
>see some trailer footage of you partaking in a battlefield
>got flashbacks of Brotherhood and Dynasty Warriors 4
>watch a friend play the game
>find out that the battles are more like set pieces in almost every possible sense
One job. ONE FUCKING JOB AND THEY COULDNT EVEN DO THAT RIGHT. Thats not even mentioning their terrible "RPG" system.
465dd3 No.16303428
>>16302922
>gameplay and gameplay alone
>Origami and Oh-so-shitty anywhere near the top
>parkour that is actively WORSE than previous entries
>retarded combat which tries to ape Dark Souls without any understanding of what makes it work and which utterly destroyed the one thing AC fights had going for them, smooth and realistic combat animations
>utterly raping whatever was left intact of the lore set up by previous games
>godawful Arr-Pee-Gee system
>even more pointless collectibles everywhere
>Eagle Vision replaced with a literal magic eagle with absolutely no explanation of how anything works about this set up and making the act of synchronization into even more tedious bullshit
>not even pretending that it's a game about assassinations any more
Try not to choke on that Ubisoft cock down your throat, fag.
465dd3 No.16303443
>>16303384
Rogue is basically Black Flag sans the performance issues, with slightly more bugs, more memorable characters and a better story. For something that was literally just made as a last-second afterthought it's surprisingly way better than it has any right to be. Kind of the same deal with Revelations.
89052b No.16303552
>>16303428
The eagle was cool though.
45a8f9 No.16303868
>>16303443
I never played rogue, but ubi gimped it when they put it on last gen consoles right when unity was already released on next gen hardware.
622525 No.16303885
>>16303361
>gameplay means nothing next to politics
God damn it /pol/
abeb9f No.16303902
>>16302008
DIdn't play rouge but you're right.
>>16297591
You're wrong. Shoving Unity above 2 shows that.
>>16302922
You're OBJECTIVELY wrong. Oddessy is a fucking mess of mechanics and you can no longer stealth kill harder enemies with it's god awful RPG mechanics. End yourself.
>>16303390
Being able to go through some missions just by calling help may be pimp like but damn it I trained those assassins, I deserve to stroll the streets unmolested by guards and let my peons do the work for me.
>>16303428
You are corret.
96e7b3 No.16304182
>>16303428
>assassin's creed
>ever having smooth or realistic combat animations
>click to watch the man die
y'know i'm always okay with you guys shit-talking my series but at least don't sound like this fucking faggot when you do it
>>16303902
>you can no longer stealth kill harder enemies
it's called leveling up, silly. try playing the game for a bit longer than your average fap time.
f8e50e No.16304269
>>16303302
I played the first as it was the closest thing to a new PoP episode, then continued out of habit until I got burned out. I'm sure there are others like me here.
3ba1f5 No.16304277
So we've talked about all the ways that AssCreed is shit, but what do you want from an AssCreed?
>remake of the first game that incorporates portions of Southern Syria, Israel/Palestine, and parts of the Mediterranean like Cyprus
>greater emphasis on social stealth as well as introduction to some basic stealth mechanics like shadows and sound as well as some more complicated factor to consider like weather effects, time of day, that sort of thing
>scale back on a lot of the RPG mechanics Origins and even Unity introduced
>reintroduce the Brotherhood system seen in III
>make combat extremely difficult without assistance
>emphasis on dueling
>none of that trading or other BS
>non-linear missions
>has some version of the Nemesis system for both sides
f79f58 No.16304294
>>16297179
The ass creed's multiplayer was pretty much all the same shit but slightly improved.
>here's your target
>get him
>whoops he killed you instead
It's pretty fun though, especially with friends which is ironic given it's tiny multiplayer part of the game was 10 times better than the singleplayer.
with friends
Honestly though thinking back on asscreed the game was never really that great, I liked the tombs and puzzles and exploration in like maybe two areas but other than it's shit.
603a45 No.16304329
>>16303885
principles over everything else. You gonna play propaganda just because the gameplay is good?
a846d7 No.16304444
>>16302922
What's wrong with the first AC?
t. has yet to play a single Arse Creed game
f79f58 No.16304510
>>16304444
haven't played the first game in god knows how long but I assume it's the same issues most of them have
>repetitive
>stealth is retarded
>combat is piss easy and basically HEY THAT GUY IS ABOUT TO ATTACK SO HAVE THIS REALLY MASSIVE ICON TO TELL YOU TO BLOCK
>game essentially boils down to oh my family is dead, I must avenge them, then you go avenge them one by one and win the game
In the simplest terms possible, it's just a dull game but you can do parkour.
44a0fb No.16304530
It's the game they directed towards ameripleb audience
>muh freedom
>muh stars and stripes
>I served in the military, i deserve discount on shit
177c82 No.16304538
>>16304444 (nice quads)
Let me go over its big points
>Parkour System
It's Brink's glorified sprint button. Hold down space, press a direction and watch Altair go. Don't worry little babby, he'll even jump for you. Not like there's anywhere important to go to anyways besides scaling large towers so you can reveal every mission and point of interest in the area, because why have an open world if you're not going to have a in game walk through pointing you to the parts where the devs actually gave a shit
>Story
You get to be cool assassin in crusades! Except the setup for every assassination is basically
<Tail man
<Tail man
<Do shitty side mission
<Go to mark's place
<Kill mark in plain sight
<Mark takes you into CINEMATIC MUH FEELS DIMENSION where gameplay is paused for at least 2 minutes because every bad guy is actually a good guy except they couldn't show it in game so they'll have them tell their life stories in their dying breaths
<Repeat until obvious betrayal
<Intercut with boring modern day parts where all you do is listen to two cutouts talk to each other
>CRUSADES SETTING! OPEN WORLD
I sure hope you like spending 5 minutes horse riding between towns in a barren desert!
Just play the Sly trilogy instead. It's got everything AC has, right down to the uber simplified controls for navigating an urban environment in a neat athletic way, except it's fun, it had a lot of good effort put into it, the missons aren't garbage and it has an actually compelling and interesting story at least the first two do compared to the snorefest that is AC1's.
The only thing I can say AC1 does over sly is that AC1 starts off in a harem, although it's ruined by a shitty white border screen effect.
177c82 No.16304543
>>16304538
Oh shit I forgot combat
Combat is basically prince of persia if you took away everything and left the counter attack, because the game is literally, honest to god
>Hold down RMB
>Get hit
>Press LMB
>Counter attack
>Repeat for whole game
If you're feeling fancy you can use the hidden blade which one shots with counter attacks, but you don't block when holding RMB so you might take damage.
5b7a9d No.16304592
>>16304530
>implying anybody liked ACIII
They demonized George Washington. You don't get more anti-American than that.
96e7b3 No.16304827
>>16304592
this, connor was an absolute asshole to georgie boy for no legitimate reason. nevermind the dlc, the main game fucked up big time on it. goddamn canadians.
>>16304444
as stated before in this thread, AC1, while fun, is realistically a tech demo/proof of concept, and AC2 does everything 1 does but far better. also pic related
89052b No.16304976
>>16304827
>AC3 Remastared isn't free for owners of the original and costs 40 bucks
Holy shit, imagine being this Jewish. Also pic related.
6c2cd2 No.16304977
so will asscreed 3 redux come with multiplayer support, or is it just the shitty singleplayer? also will it come with all the DLCs, or must you buy™ them separately?
2decb4 No.16304996
>>16304592
>slave owner
>being retarded
>muh tea tax reeeeee
He deserved it.
4bb956 No.16305044
>>16305035
I really wish this pic had some fucking citations, cause I'd very much like for it to be real.
af7219 No.16305048
>>16305044
Easy to verify, might consider adding them. Washington's section was in his 1796 Farewell Address
4bb956 No.16305053
>>16305048
Yeah, I don't think archive links or shit would be necessary, just the paper or speech in which they're said.
96e7b3 No.16305062
>>16304976
>AC3 Remastared isn't free for owners of the original
you get it for free if you bought the odyssey season pass
9bfb3d No.16305079
>>16305062
>buying season passes
Thanks for the tip
af7219 No.16305088
>>16305053
>>16305044
Didn't take much effort. Wasn't my OC anyways
8cce01 No.16305106
>>16305062
>free
<if you buy
d3bead No.16305288
>>16304977
No multiplayer in the remaster at all, like The Ezio Collection. Just singleplayer and all singleplayer Tyranny of King Washington DLCs. Plus Assassin's Creed Liberation.
I'm looking at some of the achievements/trophies and it looks like they also removed the achievement for finding all of the pivots. In the original version of Assassin's Creed III, you had to be online to find pivots in the singleplayer after you beat the campaign, then you'd run around the map looking for pivot points placed by other players. When you found a pivot you could unlock a new cheat (infinite ammo, unlimited health, ability to set the time of day, change seasons from summer to winter, remove reload animations etc). I wonder how they will handle the cheats in the remaster of III.
fb865a No.16305470
>>16305088
>the guy removed the part where Franklin didn't consider anyone non-anglo white
e78a65 No.16305518
>>16305461
im going to go ahead and put my full support behind this graphic. The most accurate one.