/v/ - Video Games

>>16202016

Bayo as a camro in smtV, yes. Dante/nero, ehh. I am cautios about dmcV

>>16202016

>>16202034

is the Bayo event over, or do I still have time?

>>16202055

It's over but.

DON'T PLAY THIS SHITTY GACHA GAME YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

PLAY A REAL SMT GAME, EMULATE KMT ON YOUR PHONE OR ANY OF THE SNES ONES

>>16202124

Emulating on the phone as opposed to playing a phone game, since i fucking hope nobody is trying to play this shit on their PC over a real game.

Also bayonetta was just another jewish gacha banner exclusive, like almost every single other demon released recently. They even stopped doing trial pulls on banners, so you HAVE to pay money to unlock banners.

I assume the mobile game is not translated, right?

Why is this such a meme? Dante was a cool addition to Nocturne

Not enough to make me return to this shitty gacha but pretty cool nonetheless.

>>16202034

>Bayo as a camro in smtV, yes

Fuck off.

I was happy for a moment before I realized it's a gacha.

>>16202496

HAHAHAHAHA

THE PRESS TURN ISN'T EVEN ACTUAL PRESS TURN YOU RETARD, SEGA COULDN'T EVEN CODE IT RIGHT

The game lacks any sort of real dungeon, the brand system completely ruins any sort of demon building because it boils it all down to pure RNG luck for getting good rolls, you can't recruit anything above 3 stars besides a ridiculously rare 4 star demon that shows up in the fucking RANDOMLY GENERATED GRINDING DUNGEON

The fusion system is dogshit and is literally just for making you grind for MAG, there's no inheritance besides the gacha archetype.

Transferring skills is a fucking cancer and a mess, if you want to use anything besides the basic tier skills you'll have to spend ridiculous amounts of MAG because for some fucking retarded reason skills can be leveled up to do more damage and it's just not worth using a higher tier skill that's lvl 1 over a lower MP cost one that's max level. Oh and let's not even talk about all the fucking GACHA EXCLUSIVE SKILLS, you seriously fucking dare mention the shitty fusion and skill system as a positive you shill.

Oh fucking GOOD LUCK using Ose and doing anywhere near decent in pvp besides killing people who stopped playing, the game is full of fucking broken gacha exclusives, Rama, Huang Di, Mother Harlot and fucking MASAKADO to name a few.

YOUR FUCKING JEWISH ASS SAYING THAT THIS FUCKING GAME, WHERE THE ENDGAME IS MAKING AN AUTOFARMING TEAM AND ROLLING FOR OP GACHA EXCLUSIVES FOR PVP, HAS THE BEST COMBAT IN SMT SINCE SJ IS THE ABSOLUTE MOST HILARIOUS THING I'VE READ TODAY

>>16202580

Nice caps lock.

>THE PRESS TURN ISN'T EVEN ACTUAL PRESS TURN YOU RETARD, SEGA COULDN'T EVEN CODE IT RIGHT

Citation needed, only difference I could find is reflect and drain doesn't eat all turns which just means the devs aren't temped to make fights made around needing to only use almighty or pierce to even hit them.

>the brand system completely ruins any sort of demon building because it boils it all down to pure RNG luck for getting good rolls

Only one that's actually hard to get is divine brands but those are more niche in demons that use that and irrelevant to the team I gave, most parties just get wards that give a hard DPS or HP bonus which can be easily gained to give the passives you want.

>The fusion system is dogshit and is literally just for making you grind for MAG, there's no inheritance besides the gacha archetype.

The game within the first week gives 5M magnetite which can make you 2 5 stars, or a massive pile of 4 stars, literally anything you want.

>transferring skills

The most common skills for transfer that are desirable can be obtained off a cheap 3 star which is endure off of Horkos, you get enough MAG to make him off of 2 fights in the dungeon and don't forget the 5M mag you can get first week playing.

Game will also frequently feed you red Magatama which is an instant level up to any skill bypassing the need to level up by remaking certain skills.

>you seriously fucking dare mention the shitty fusion and skill system as a positive you shill.

>Having less randomness where it could have easily scammed you out of much more here with it is a bad thing

>Oh fucking GOOD LUCK using Ose and doing anywhere near decent in pvp besides killing people who stopped playing, the game is full of fucking broken gacha exclusives, Rama, Huang Di, Mother Harlot and fucking MASAKADO to name a few.

There's enough free defence teams around to get to gold easily which rewards you with the special skill transfers, saying a basic budget team in any game like this would be the absolute meta is false but it's good enough to get you through enough to get the good rewards out of it.

Also PvP is only PvP in the way that you're fighting other players teams, it's still the AI who wont think as smart as a player will so even teams of meta demons will play retarded, E.G. demons will use charge if they can and no other skill even if magic focused or ram into null physical.

You're also acting like I said all and not a majority, main game, brands of sin, Jack park, a gold rank PvP and Aura gate are all perfectly complete able with that party without spending literally anything, could even uninstall the game at that point and end there feeling you beat it.

>YOUR FUCKING JEWISH ASS SAYING THAT THIS FUCKING GAME, WHERE THE ENDGAME IS MAKING AN AUTOFARMING TEAM AND ROLLING FOR OP GACHA EXCLUSIVES FOR PVP, HAS THE BEST COMBAT IN SMT SINCE SJ IS THE ABSOLUTE MOST HILARIOUS THING I'VE READ TODAY

Literally name an SMT after SJ with better combat, SMT my MC has 600/200 Magic or Dexterity and will brain dead OTK even super bosses 4 and 4A?, oh wait those super bosses are DLC you buy extra LMAO, be pretty Jewish to expect a player to buy post game bosses on the cover of the box, oh wait they did that in 4.

>>16202703

>Citation needed

4 full turns, hit a weakness, 3 turns and 1 blinking, hit another, 2 turns and 2 blinkings, this is how press turn has always worked. But not in Dx2, you end up with 3 turns instead, which heavily changes the gameplay. Not to mention spells being unable to miss, with sukukaja only affecting physical attacks.

>Only one that's actually hard to get is divine brands but those are more niche in demons that use that and irrelevant to the team I gave,

Tertiary effects, in order to get a good brand you'll have to pray for the brand you get from the autofarming dungeon to have innate good terts at lvl 1 in order to have a CHANCE at rolling them into stronger terts to get a truly good brand. Oh and Divine is not fucking niche when 90% of demons benefit from it.

>The game within the first week gives 5M magnetite

Yes, of course a fucking gacha will give you free shit at the start, but it only gets you 1 and a half fusions of the low grade 4+4 5 stars, which are limited in use.

>The most common skills for transfer that are desirable can be obtained off a cheap 3 star which is endure off of Horkos, you get enough MAG to make him off of 2 fights in the dungeon and don't forget the 5M mag you can get first week playing.

Game will also frequently feed you red Magatama which is an instant level up to any skill bypassing the need to level up by remaking certain skills.

You barely get any red magatamas that are time locked per month, with the only alternative way to get them being giving SEGA ridiculous money, and unique demon skills have way higher priority than regular skills since there's no other way to upgrade them besides red magatamas and their effects are much greater, so you end up with Megido having way more use than megidola even on demons that can use megidola better simply because you have to fuse alilats to level it up. You also forgot about the huge amount of gacha exclusive skills.

>There's enough free defence teams around to get to gold easily which rewards you with the special skill transfers

You need diamond for the special skill transfers, can't you even shill the game right?

>Also PvP is only PvP in the way that you're fighting other players teams, it's still the AI who wont think as smart as a player will so even teams of meta demons will play retarded

Yeah just ignore the fact a single heca, one of the most common defense team demons around, will completely invalidate your budget team and he won't even need to do any damage to you because of defense support being a thing, and the meta demons don't need smart AI when a Huang Di can simply take his turn and use Yinlong to instakill your entire team because he has pierce, 50% crit rate on it, extra hit rate passive and ridiculous pattk because of the horrible brand system letting him have ridiculous phys attack % terts and hit rate %.

>You're also acting like I said all and not a majority,

Oh yes, sure is worth playing a game with a fucking retarded story of fighting the EBIL ACOLYTES who don't even have faces and have a youtuber preach about the internet to some eco terrorist for no reason. How about brands of sin, the dungeon made for you to create a team that autofarm it for you, why not play a fucking clicker game at that point instead of wasting phone battery? Jack Park while it has an okay idea with gimmicks, it never fucking changes even if it's reset every month. The Aura Gate is literally a randomly generated dungeon with absolutely no dungeon design or proper mechanics, there's no resource management with the MP system this trash has, damage floors are there to make walking slower and inhibit your grinding because you can't have encounters on them, since they're randomly generated and the dungeons are basically connected corridors you can't avoid them. How about the dark zones only being there to drain your dungeon stamina resource too, and that's it for the mechanics. There's a failed system called Gatekeepers which at first looked like FOEs, but they're just some "bosses" that sit on certain floors, have massive HP to require you and other players to fight it multiple times, 5 turns at a time with no real penalty for losing, like it's even possible to, and IF defeated, they'll give you a incredibly shitty reward. How about the floor bosses that become irrelevant so fast that they literally had to start having pierce on almost every boss after floor 40 to be relevant.

>Literally name an SMT after SJ with better combat, SMT my MC has 600/200 Magic or Dexterity and will brain dead OTK even super bosses 4 and 4A?, oh wait those super bosses are DLC you buy extra LMAO, be pretty Jewish to expect a player to buy post game bosses on the cover of the box, oh wait they did that in 4.

For all the flaws of IV and FINAL, even they were better than this mess, at least I could play the game, fight bosses and fuse without leaving a 3DS on overnight doing autogrinding to get gear to make my demons not trash.

And as bad as SMT story has gotten, even in the friendship route of FINAL, it's still nowhere as retarded as Dx2's amazing cast of:

Retard Airsoft Girl

Youtuber

Lesbian Slut

Chinese Hacker that doesn't shut up about horror movies

Taiwanese faggot who attempts to strip in every single cutscene he's in

"300 IQ" bitch Idol

Fat idolfag guy

Taoism fangirl

In their merry journey as a group of 1 dimensional characters fighting 1 dimensional evil guys in a plot that i can only describe as a shit bastardized version of soul hackers without any of it's good elements.

>>16202871

I like how you tried to make yourself not look retarded by calling it FINAL and yet you missed the colossal plot point of the DragonStream existing, meaning that Dx2 is a Devil Survivor spinoff and NOT a SMT proper spinoff.

Retard.

>>16202919

I like the name FINAL and I've used it since before Atlus USA decided to change it.

The Dragon Stream is based on Taoism, so both Devil Survivor and Dx2 ended up using it as a plot point, but sure, i'd love not to call this a SMT spinoff, it's just a SEGA cashgrab really, atlus isn't even involved.

gachaniggers get the rope

>>16202496

kill yourself shill

>>16202867

>Weaknesses

Yeah that change is odd but I doubt it's a programming error unless you have proof. Spells can't miss because phys just naturally hits much harder, which has been an ongoing battle to balance the 2 in the series.

>You need diamond for the special skill transfers, can't you even shill the game right?

My mistake, still win enough in pvp for the skill transfer normal and magatama's to fund any transfer you want + steam of extras

>Oh yes, sure is worth playing a game with a fucking retarded story

This applies to every SMT after SJ including the remake with how it changes the story.

Jack park is understandable but doing once to say you've done it is enough.

Aura gate hazards can be invalidated by making 2 demons that null damage panels and dark zones.

Gate keepers with the right one and a team of demons with 3-4 hit skills can get you a large sum of MAG but it's related to your contribution to beating it.

>For all the flaws of IV and FINAL, even they were better than this mess, at least I could play the game, fight bosses and fuse without leaving a 3DS on overnight doing auto grinding to get gear to make my demons not trash.

Now that's a lie, stats in that game were so under thought as soon as past the first "boss" you're one shotting every encounter with an AOE spell no questions asked, while playing paper boy going on boring treads through shit bland and empty locations devoid of activities or actual dungeon crawling till a plot important boss shots up to be OTK'd and repeat until you reach the damage gated final boss.

A story that actively invalidated the point of establishing multiple timelines by attempting to retcon every game into a YHVH wins one, literally actively damaging other games stories by existing and "playing" is hard to say when it's just using concentrate (can even stack a stronger concentrate on top of the first if you want even more retarded numbers) into Floral Gust or Glacial Blast (Or physical equivalents which are much stronger) to deal damage that makes Demi Fiend's focus + Crit Freikugel at level 255 look like a flacid dick slap but it also hits 2 to 4 times (8 if physical).

Dx2 is bad in the story department but it's not actively trying to ruin the rest of the series bad like modern atlus writers are where everything from old art and series story points have to be actively damaged for these new people to feel like they did anything.

Final is in all states a retards game that legit makes Persona 3 through 5 look like hard core experiences by making the player have to be literally retarded not to how broken the mechanics are and easy to exploit but then still has the balls to ask you to pay for DLC containing the actual post game which you can still OTK anyway.

And this is a product with a price tag on, on top.

Dx2 you can play from beginning to end without feeling like the game practically played itself the entire time and not pretending the game wasn't designed by nu-Atlus retards who will certainly make SMTV in the same way to ensure it's an absolute pile of dog shit too.

>>16202871

Don't pretend you can't describe everyone in 4A the same way.

Retard childhood friend girl

Lesbian slut

Smug Retard A

Smug Retard B now with legs

Yandere loli

Twink who wants to be gangster

Ghost Skeleton who tells you how to feel

>>16203109

The changes to press turn do alter the system significantly, and the magic change removes a sukukaja strategy. It was also something that was probably needed because again, brand system is retarded and you could RNG a whole set of brands with 10%+ evade terts and become immortal.

SMT stories never got retarded enough to have the plain good guys versus bad guys dichotomy Dx2 has, even the "split" that was promised in chapter 7 only resulted in a bad ending.

Being able to invalidate the hazards is true, but that's not the point, the hazards do not contribute to dungeon crawling, they are only there as drains to your time and stamina resource while farming and serve no use for it's design.

GK only give a rather small amount of MAG even at high contribution, and the first place prize is only a bunch of divine brands that aren't even 6*, it's barely worth it to fight the 46-50 GK if you find it, but it's nowhere near worth hunting them down outside of events that arbitrarily award you for fighting GKs x amount of times, which doesn't fix their shitty design.

SMT IV/FINAL had a ton of flaws and the stat system was retarded, but a lot of what you're mentioning is bullshit or only applies to IV's broken mess. You mention DLC exclusive moves IV had which i won't defend, but they do not impact the main game, but FINAL did a decent job of balancing as much as it could with the bad stat system, and you won't one shot bosses in FINAL as long as you're playing on War at least. Also timeline faggotry is retarded, each game is it's own thing if not a direct sequel like I -> II was, the Amala Universe bullshit is just an excuse for crossovers like the diamond realm DLC.

Also in DX2 the game will LITERALLY PLAY ITSELF, it has an auto mode and stages simply for you to grind automatically, the game is designed by SEGA jews who want to make people gacha for their ridiculous gacha exclusives, must I mention the just released Alternative Abbadon gacha exclusive that auto-dekajas and auto-debilitates each boss? Auto skills and the buff system being inspired by modern persona too of course.

And as a matter of fact, the cast of FINAL is better just because you can kill them at least. And I seriously wish i could describe the cast of Dx2 in another way, but the game itself flanderizes them so much from the start it's ridiculous.

>>16203205

>133 saves

I haven't really played REmake 2 but isn't that excessive?

>>16203280

My guess is he examined the fuck out of every little detail.

>>16203273

Fuck Dx2 now seeing this 4/4FA defence is where all my energy is going now since you can't be this ignorant with that games mechanics while pushing them ass passable.

>But a lot of what you're mentioning is bullshit or only applies to IV's broken mess

No, Concentrate + Glacial blast and Floral gust or Charge + Myraid arrows, Myst rush requires no DLC and is definitely in final and much worse in that game.

>but FINAL did a decent job of balancing as much as it could with the bad stat system

It did fucking nothing past a smirk change which should have never been a problem in the first place, how about making a game without damage calculations that retarded. Skills still have a majority of the DPS off stat instead of skill for their damage so just using weak or mid tier random hit spells like breaths or Floral gust will always deal neglectfully less higher tier regular skills and then during bosses it's like hitting them multiple times over making them being "weaker" worthless when each hit is landing for 2K-3K over a single 3.5K thanks to your MC's retarded high inflated stats.

None of this requires dlc

MC with Concentrate, Floral Gust, Glacial Blast, Fire Breath, shock, + 3 of WE

Party does maybe 300 a turn, MC deals 10K, what amazing balance that couldn't have been fixed in anyway like IDK, adding a fucking stat cap before 999, maybe put it where the star bar fucking ended

This sort of set up requires 0 DLC to make and physical again is worse since it gains damage off of 2 stats.

This also ignores demon

>and you won't one shot bosses in FINAL as long as you're playing on War at least.

>Telling lies

The very absolute minimum damage changes in war mode will do will make it two turns and even then only very select bosses like the giant CG snake (SMT4A is saved bros) every boss is designed around a retard putting 1 point in every stat every level not someone realising that's retarded and putting 4 or 5 in every stat every level, but in those select cases it'll trigger the cancer mid boss dialogue

>Also in DX2 the game will LITERALLY PLAY ITSELF, it has an auto mode and stages simply for you to grind automatically, the game is designed by SEGA jews who want to make people gacha for their ridiculous gacha exclusives, must I mention the just released Alternative Abbadon gacha exclusive that auto-dekajas and auto-debilitates each boss? Auto skills and the buff system being inspired by modern persona too of course.

Saves grinding when you want to burn energy but don't want to play, don't pretend atlus wouldn't straight up charge for the same thing if they had the idea of releasing alt art demons after 4 and 4A, Soul hackers 3DS is a complete fluke that defied all logic, probs due to them being too new att.

>And as a matter of fact, the cast of FINAL is better just because you can kill them at least. And I seriously wish i could describe the cast of Dx2 in another way, but the game itself flanderizes them so much from the start it's ridiculous.

>Wow I put up with these niggas for a 20 hour experience but for the last couple I don't have too in one of the endin routes, epic

>>16203439

I've never argued IV/FINAL had good mechanics, just that they aren't as bad as a fucking gachashit at least. Glad you're admitting that defending this trash isn't worth it.

>>16203439

Hey hold up there jackwagon, you can also just do a gun build and one shot every boss but YWHW because he has damage gates. Also you forgot to mention you get an innate pierce for the final dungeon on your MC for no reason.

That being said you're still the bigger faggot for supporting a gacha, even if the other guy has shit taste so bad he thinks any version of SMT4 is good.

>>16202016

>dante in smtv when he isn't even on nintendo platforms

Probably in the PS4 re-release.

>>16206324

In the re-release you will get some developer's waifu shoved into the plot.

grey haired long haired guy who inexplicably has muscles.

>Nier

>Witcher

>DMC

>MGS

I wish this trend would stop.

>>16207396

>muh tropes

>>16207396

>robot

>mutant

>half demon

>old man in exoskeleton

>"trend"

>>>/reddit/

>>16207396

>inexplicably

They just trained or something. Do you know what muscles are?

>>16207507

>a nameless NPC gets to have the classic 3d anime style face while all the main characters have to look like "real" people.

So they're ugly people in a world full of generic anime characters?

>>16202496

You forgot the part where the strongest demons all are gacha exclusive with quite possibly the worst rates I have ever seen in this sort of game.

>>16207668

but how much days till i can pirate it?

did they say the filsize of the game?

such an obvious shill thread

Even DmC looks better than this garbage.

>>16207375

Watching this makes me want a super sentai dmc made series, it would be fun.

>>16202496

>-Demons have 10 MP and start with all of it (start with 2/10 or 5/10 depending on first or second in PVP) and gain +3 every turn, this makes basic skills like zio/mazio viable at higher levels due to having a low spam able MP cost and can semi offset constant usage of dyne tier skills

Really I'm surprised more games don't copy this. It worked so well in FFTA2 (barring certain abuses).

>>16207668

its easier if you think of it as only 2 days seeing as we can actually get it on Friday.

>>16202703

>The game within the first week gives 5M magnetite

They're finally breaking down and handing out more mag? Because trying to farm for mag in this fucking game was a complete bitch to do. Do they really hand it out through some login reward or what? Because the only other 'source' of mag was those fucking mag boxes that were only available when you spent your free gems on them.

The gacha system is ass too; who the fuck thought it was a good idea to lock you out of what you want to roll unless you put in money to buy them? Doesn't help that the archetype system can fuck you out of some really good skills.

>>16211179

The mag doesn't matter. You can't fuse fiends/heros/whatever other OP gacha only demon they have added.

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