84fea8 No.16159835
Its such a grind trying to put together some gold for membership bonds. Anyone got any tips on how to make a tonne of gold?
16424d No.16159841
>>16159835
Use a bot. Runescape was always a shit-tier grindfest it's just you were too underage to notice the first time around. Only good thing about the game was the music.
e6cea1 No.16159859
>>16159835
Buy a month of membership, farm herbs and do slayer. Sell your herbs and slay loot. That or stop being a poorfag and just buy a yearly membership.
t. Faggot with 11k hours in Runescape
9ec2e3 No.16159862
>>16159843
>posting something from an NTR and borderline BLACKED artist
c1e54d No.16159866
e6cea1 No.16159880
>>16159859
Also, level up your Magic and Fishing skills you fucking noob.
84fea8 No.16159957
>>16159880
I've been doing mining, is fishing just more lucrative at the moment? And why magic?
e6cea1 No.16160075
>>16159957
Fishing is a great starter skill since it allots you the ability to use higher level foods as well as giving you the ability to train cooking alongside it. Magic is great to train at low-mid levels since it lets you to use powerful range/melee elemental attacks as well as teleportation spells for quests and general skill training.
49cc83 No.16160110
>Supporting nuJagex
Unironically kill yourself.
142cf1 No.16160116
>>16160110
trying a bit too hard there friend
e6cea1 No.16160135
>>16160110
Nu-Jagex? You mean Mod Wolf? The community has completely ostracised him for trying to hamfist identity politics into OSRS.
84fea8 No.16160156
>>16160135
Lol what event was this?
e6cea1 No.16160161
>>16160156
It was the anti-pride event riot. Gif related.
8e17ae No.16160179
gay shit is irrelevant when there's GE and the economy and game is ruined
25fcb1 No.16160184
>>16160135
>that pic
That riot was the most fun I've ever had on OSRS. Shortly after the riot I sold everything of value I had and gambled all my gold on dragon impling boxes before unsubscribing my membership and stopped playing. Haven't touched it since but I imagine I haven't missed anything of value anyway
e6cea1 No.16160189
>>16160179
What exactly about the GE has "ruined" rs? The only thing that changed is that the main hub for trading moved from Falador to Varrock.
>gay shit is irrelevant
Don't pretend that the Mod Wolf incident effected you normalfag fair weather "fans" in the slightest. You stupid niggers would ignore Runescape completely as a "dead game" if it weren't for us fighting against that faggot. Choke on a fat nigger cock you retarded poser.
ad0eac No.16160196
>>16160075
>magic
>powerful
Just raise melee, its cheaper and more reliable. Magic costs money and is only good for teleport and alch. Cooking is a money sink. Fishing isnt profitable, just buy food..
Also this cant be osrs because its clearly not open source, nor did membership bonds exist in classic
e6cea1 No.16160203
>>16160196
Melee is the default combat skill since it requires little much than a dragon longsword or scimmy if you complete Monkey Madness and rune/granite armor to train. It's not stupid to train melee, but if you've got gp to spare then it's smart to spend it on Magic since it's a long range attack as well as a means of quick travel and alternative skill training.
>Cooking is a money sink
Not if you catch your own fish
>Fishing isnt profitable
You've clearly never caught Monkfish and Sharks. The afk gp/exp is tasty.
>just buy food
Fucking noob.
ad0eac No.16160218
>>16160203
>botting your fishing to 65 before you do combat
>POWERFUL LONG RANGE ATTACKS
Magic isnt any stronger than melee unless you get barrows set and paper thin defense with ancients. Meme skill. Its only good for skilling
d93a45 No.16160222
All things said, is there any plausible reason not to use a bot for the retarded act of running to a bank every three minutes because your inventory is full of shit? I do remember grinding woodcutting many years back. Fucking hell…
(Also and good bots? I once looked around but (((subscription model))) was all I found
>>16160196
>just buy food..
There is but one thing you should ever guy in Runescape: a gf
e6cea1 No.16160223
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>>16160218
Being able to safe space melee damage > pray protecting melee.
>Meme skill
I didn't know we were talking about Firemaking.
e1cdfc No.16160254
Reminder that this game is only going to get worse with Jagex being the fucking idiots they are;
>Follow every single step leading up to eoc with powercreep everywhere
>Ruin the Wilderness and pvp in general
>Allow 3rd party clients to run your game and make money off you because Jagex is too afraid to go against r****t
>"Community" is now not only full of n*rmalfags from r****t, it is run by them
>Democracy
>Sodomite pride
>Zeah full of useless boring content and horrible "memes" instead of classical rs humor from 2006
>Slayer turned into a meme skill
>Nothing looks like it belongs, especially Zeah
Jump ship while you can
480587 No.16160268
>>16160189
Is this bait? I can't tell because the single-mother spawns on their tablets that are what's left of the runescape playerbase actually believe this. There is a clear and fundamental difference, psychologically, between the process of trading directly with someone that has human tendencies and a trading mediator algorithm that involves no 'human' interaction, and this has social implications far removed from the process of trading itself. Because of its simplicity and ease of use it becomes the path of least resistance and most players switch to using it almost exclusively to the point where even the players that are willing to actively ignore it can't play without it as there isn't enough of them to make traditional trading feasible.
Lower-mid/mid-high tier drops and produce become cheap, trivial and no longer worth killing or skilling for. It's a form of power creep, except it's sudden. Even preparing to go on a quest now involves standing at the ge and ticking off a list on the wiki.
You gullable niggers think the pride event was a failure or something? It did what it was meant to do in the first place: put runescape back into the public spotlight shortly before the mobile release with the help of the hate-click advertising machine and the reddit rioters that gave them all the ammo they needed instead of voting with their mother's wallet.
And the funny thing is the preceeding wall of text is just one problem. >>16160110 see this handy chart for more and kys.
ad0eac No.16160289
>>16160223
After playing Haven and Hearth, I realized that Firemaking wouldve been better as a general Survival skill. As it is its too niche. Oh well,i put lots of time into RS and moved on. I wonder if I still have all my shit in the new game
e6cea1 No.16160292
>>16160268
Nigger, the only sugar mama I got my subscriptions from was Prizerebel from stumblebum chumps on Youtube back in the day of referral based point bonuses. Not that I'd expect a kiddie like you to understand that with your age of immediate gratification android devices.
>Lower-mid/mid-high tier drops and produce become cheap, trivial and no longer worth killing or skilling for
Bull-fucking-shit. As a player that's obtained 120 Slayer before Slayer became an elite skill I know for a fact that killing elite monsters offers lower GP per hour than doing gathering skills for monsters that would drop ores and/or raw fish. The only reason Slayer was preferred over gathering skills was because it offered overall better Exp per hour due to the fact that you'd get exp in 3-4 skills at once and most players aiming for a high total exp would gladly eat the gp.
256e13 No.16160300
Currently mining and smithing in RS3 are extremely AFK and make around 500-750k an hour, which is pretty good for being AFK. If you get the smelting gauntlets, you can just smith gold/cannonballs for 2-3 minutes of afk time, and you never have to run to the bank. Do this for a few hours every day while multitasking something else and you'll be able to sustain a bond.
0030ee No.16160321
>>16160189
Becausee GE lead to inflation of items. ANd don't fucking lie. a cape that can be bought for 12gp from the clothing store in varrok can be sold for 200 GP or so on the GE.
d9321a No.16160330
ITT:GE babbies cant comprehend the damage it has done. There is a reason why all MMOs today suck.
ad0eac No.16160338
>>16160292
I thought slayer was decent money at the very least. Gave me something to do while herbs grew. Also let me stockpile summoning charms
Remember how awful and unbalanced that was? Something like 40 summon to get 10 minutes of +2 firemaking and woodcutting? Or how many extra clicks you needed for the few extra inventory slot summons and how shit they were before being buffed?
Fuck, remember dungeoneering?
>Heres this cool longsword you only need level 40 dg to use
>But you need like 85 levels in it before you have enough tokens. Well have fun!
ad0eac No.16160341
>>16160321
You cost on the ge comes from the players time to purchase and list it. What are you going to complain that convenience stores arent selling items at manufacturer cost?
a2a867 No.16160348
>>16160338
Dungeoneering was a neat idea regardless
>A skill that makes every other skill useful in some way or another
>A skill that isn't completely AFK shit and cannot be cheesed with dumping assloads of money into it
>A skill that actually requires you to interact with other human beings in the game, and play to their strengths and weaknesses
Outside of leveling it being incredibly slow and a garbage launch state it was a very neat idea.
bfc703 No.16160371
JUDEN RAUS FUCK YOU MARK
GET THESE RUNE SCAPE AND WOLD UH WHOACWAAAFT THREADS OFF THIS BOARD
8835db No.16160381
>>16160330
I always hear about the damage that GE did but nobody ever explains what the damage was. Can you explain? I was with Runescape during it's golden years but I was too spaghetti to ever try trading.
a5330f No.16160391
>>16160381
We could explain it a million times but you retards always come back in the next thread with "LOL GE IS GOOD YOU JUST HATE IT BECAUSE NOSTALGIA"
256e13 No.16160405
>>16160391
Just play ironman then?
8835db No.16160409
>>16160391
Honestly I wonder why none of you ever say anything about trade limits because that was the breaking point for me specifically. I remember almost getting free shit from a nice guy and it didn't go through because Fagex was scared of bots or whatever.
a5330f No.16160416
>>16160405
I'm going to assume nobody is actually THIS retarded and you're just baiting.
>>16160409
Trade limits are a byproduct of GE-based economy.
a2a867 No.16160421
>>16160409
I honestly forgot trade limits were a thing mainly because of how reliant the game was on the GE
0030ee No.16160426
>>16160341
>Can buy shit from clothing store at 12gp
>Sell on GE for 212gp
>Somehow not inflation
>>16160409
The trade limit thing was ass, Killed drop parties
256e13 No.16160434
>>16160426
>Can get gold ore for free
>Sell on GE for 300 gp
>OMG INFLATION
That's not how it works dumbass
d93a45 No.16160453
>Old School Bonds are in-game items, tradable to fellow players and redeemable for membership
If you want to complain about inflation, complain about this.
480587 No.16160582
>>16160254
>Allow 3rd party clients to run your game and make money off you because Jagex is too afraid to go against r****t
What, apart from threat of legal action could be done about 3rd party clients? And wasn't osbuddy made by an ex-jagex staffer?
>Slayer turned into a meme skill
been out of the loop a while. how?
0030ee No.16160707
>>16160434
>selling is the same as buying
>faggot poster playing RS3, where prices on GE have heavily inflated MORE than OSRS
Minor things like capes and fishing rods sohuldn't be this heavily inflated on the GE due to shops selling an infinite supply of them and across multiple servers. They should MAYBE be 30gp (slight markup for profit). you seem to be literally retarded
256e13 No.16160724
>>16160707
Trees and rocks provide an infinite amount of logs and ores, when you figure out why people pay money for these maybe you'll be less retarded.
293d58 No.16160730
>>16160381
Muh social interaction basically, even though when I played OSRS pre-GE it was a lot of standing around and spamming. There was a website where people were posting offers but half the time I messaged them in game I would get a response like "sold out already, forgot to edit my post lol".
>>16160189
Has there been a pride event since then? I haven't heard of one, and I know the OSRS team got a lot of heat for it.
4786d5 No.16160870
>trying to grind gold for membership bonds
>is farming
>a member's skill
Genuine thing to consider, memebershit bonds are as kiked as keys in team fortress 2 it's objectively not sustainable nor worth the time and grind to actually trade for them.
e1cdfc No.16160895
>>16160582
>Meme bracelets to reduce or increase a tasks length by 25%
>Katacombs of Kourend so every task is burstable and makes money
>Cannon spots everywhere
>Extra boss rooms so theres little to no competition
All of this has moreso doubled the average xp of slayer, before it was a hard and worthless skill to train before reaching the higher levels so less people did it, but now theres so much focus on it and practically no reason not to, which adds to another point which is the economy being utterly fucked because they refuse to revert the death mechanics making items worthless and everything riskless
>What could they do about 3rd party clients other than legal action
They could get off their arse and make a functioning client themselves to start with, its completely unacceptable that their vanilla client runs worse than a 3rd party one with 50 different plugins attached to it
1334dd No.16160984
>>16159841
Abso-fucking-lutely this.
c792ad No.16161010
quit being a faggot and play /v/scape instead
1313f9 No.16161012
>>16161010
I thought they got hacked.
c792ad No.16161024
>>16161012
Yes, but think for one second about what the hackers could even do.
As long as you weren't a retard who used the same password and username that they used on other shit (on a server run by anons no less), they can't do anything to you.
Since then, security measures have been drastically changed, so a repeat of the incident should not be likely.
f6f393 No.16161047
>>16160189
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870
In short, it made the jews stronger. Never make the jews stronger or it will ruin everything.
c25dd0 No.16161051
>>16159835
play OSRS F2P and level up all your combat/gathering/crafting skills to 30~40
Access the 7-day membership trial
woodcut - fletch - fish like your life depends on it
make bond $$$ in less than 5 days
enjoy free OSRS
ALTERNATIVELY
do the same thing but screw the free trial and gib Jagex
11 FUCKING DOLLARYDOOS
for 1 month and make the money for bonds, never pay them again
16d29f No.16161373
>>16161300
Priest in Peril and, afterwards, Ghosts Ahoy! , are a good pair of beginner-member quest. the first gives you access to the morytania region and the latter gives you a permanent infinite-use teleport to the Ectofuntus, which is at the north-east part of the morytania region.
honestly. im fucking done playing this game. endgame content is just powercreep bullshit for streamers.
>>16159835
i could give you a bond if you want. i dont think i want to play this zombie game anymore. you can make enough money in 2 weeks to purchase another on your own.
a2a867 No.16161394
So how about that Recipe for Disaster?
I heard they made a sequel to it, how was it?
de71f1 No.16161420
>oh the grinds not that bad
>hit 90 magic and melee
>realise I'm not even halfway to 99 yet
16d29f No.16161440
>>16161420
you need 13.1 million experience to 99 a skill. level 92 happens at 6.5 million exp, its the halfway-there point
1313f9 No.16161469
>>16161420
>>16161440
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
16d29f No.16161494
>>16161469
dude. thats been how the game was since day 1. the final levels are supposed to be the toughest.
going from level 98 to 99 takes roughly the same exp it takes to go from lv1 to 71 roughly 1.07 million exp of course at level 98 you pretty much have all kinds of min-maxing options at your disposal to grind faster than you do at level 1, but its still tough. some skills are easier than others, cooking is probably the easiest 99 in the game, with agility, thieving, and runecrafting being the 3 hardest.
52dc8e No.16161519
>>16161469
The Gowers never thought anyone would be crazy enough to try it. That's why the highest level shit in Classic was no more than like level 60.
a5330f No.16161541
>>16161469
If you think endgame is the real game and levels are just a completely pointless obstacle to it, then you could play literally any other MMO.
a2a867 No.16161575
>>16161469
It gave it a lot of status even if the actual 99 level didn't add or change much about the skill. In fact if I recall correctly the last effective level was 95? Those skill capes were neat though.
First 99?
Firemaking.
>>16161570
>Old game
>Dragon Platebodies
16d29f No.16161583
>>16161575
i wasn't talking about classic specifically, more like the oldschool runescape that people remember dearly, you know, 2004-2006ish. face it most classic players are fucking dead now, RIP the MMO boomers
17e900 No.16161587
>>16161575
Runite armor was also added in an update. Adamant armor was the strongest melee armor when the game first launched.
a2a867 No.16161594
>>16161583
>think dragon plates were introduced in 2012 or something
>It's 2008
>It's been nearly a decade since I last played
17e900 No.16161603
>>16161583
>2004-2006ish
Barrows armor would have been the strongest armor then.
16d29f No.16161608
>>16161603
yeah so, getting smithing to 99 to make yourself a rune would have been absolutely pointless.
making rune armor need such high smithing was a mistake. it should have been like level 70-75 smithing, tops
a2a867 No.16161612
>>16161608
The problem is that until dungeoneering higher levels in most non combat skills were practically useless.
I think Agility was the only all around useful one because of shortcuts and stamina?
256e13 No.16161698
>>16161608
RS3 recently overhauled the skill, now making the entire rune set only requires level 50 smithing (and mining runite is level 50 mining).
>>16161420
>realize that after around level 30, you're only halfway to the currentlevel+7.
186441 No.16161901
If you're playing RS3, mining and smithing rework came out so new ores are good profit. Especially luminite if you're F2P.
If you're members & high level smithing make elder rune +4 into +5 and sell it because double xp is on and people wanna level up smithing for stupid prices because they wanna make masterwork armour.
If you're playing OSRS, learn to use abilities and play RS3 they make combat way more interesting holy shit you nostalgia goggles wearing fuck.
e9bd88 No.16161938
>>16161901
osrs isnt subjected to the mtx cancer like rs3 and gets regular content updates unlike rs3
186441 No.16162014
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>>16161938
>Regular content updates unlike RS3
What are you on about? What is this video?
Meanwhile OSRS has been busy fine-tuning their lacklustre raids content for the past two months. Deleting enemies because players say they're annoying, making raid bosses weaker & removing level requirements for content, yeah good regular content updates.
I won't deny that MTX is riddled in RS3 but it's completely optional, and you can happily ignore it forever.
c1e54d No.16162033
>>16161420
If you think about it the exp gets significantly faster when you're at that level because you can output more damage. It's still fucking horrible though.
a37b83 No.16162328
>be poorfag a couple months ago
>attempting to get bonds through telegrabbing zammy wines
>nice quiet spot, occasional bot on the first floor, but outgrabbing his wine once my stats are okay
>random nigger hops into my world, attempts to grab the wine
>NotTodayFag.webm
>"Hey man, we should share this world"
>Are you actually kidding me right now?
>Loses his another law rune to me because I'm a little quicker
>"C'mon man, there's no need for us to fight for this channel, I just bought 1k laws too"
>In most other cases I can usually allow for sharing a spot, but this guy was fucking with my profit margins, mooched into this channel after I had it down, and had the audacity to try being diplomatic after stealing it failed
>fed up with this subhuman's behavior, my inner Turbo-Kike kicks in
>"Say man, sharing is great and all, but I could actually let you have this channel all to yourself for say….180 law runes"
>"No way, I'll give you 100"
>During this exchange, I placed a glass of beer onto the table, even with me having to 2 click for wines, I was still faster
>"Make that 200, for trying to lowball me"
>"That's even more than your first offer, I'll give you 150 for bad begging"
>"Not only did you try to steal my channel, but you spit in my face by trying to make me share it after, make it 210"
>"I'll give you 180, final offer"
>the beer glass finally pops up for him about the same time a Wine jug does, I snag the jug, he gets the beer
>"Actually, make it 225, for stealing my beer"
>fed up with losing law runes and telegrabbing a beer the guy hands me my law runes plus one beer
>"Pleasure doing business with you! Have a wonderful day!"
It was peanuts in the long run but I think it was the principle of the matter. I actually do enjoy that I've spoken to more players in these last few months than I did playing WoW the last expansion I played. And most of it has been just fun banter and talking about life.
8648f8 No.16162869
You can buy crates of feathers from the port sarim fishing store until the price is more than 2gp per feather. Rinse and repeat. Sell for 3gp per feather at ge. You can world hop and your return profit depends on how much you invest. A good way to use your first 1mil gp.
580a8b No.16162953
Reminder we have a private /v/ server: https://vidyascape.org/
e5526b No.16163905
>Buy sara godsword for 41m
>It's lackluster and I still have to use guthans besides it
It's not useless or anything but I expected a bit more out of it, I could have spend the money on skilling but I still feel like im wasting money that way.
0b75b8 No.16163955
>>16162036
>dat id tho monica
a2a867 No.16165449
>>16161938
What be MTX?
What was the combat rebalance anyways? I don't think I played it before I quit.
e9bd88 No.16165561
>>16165449
mtx = microtransaction. the combat change was eoc, evolution of combat. its actually good now.
679fba No.16165705
>Played as a free member on and off when I was a kid
>Recently tried to get back into it, even got a few months membership to give it a real go
>It's still just none stop grinding that puts pre-big bang Maplestory to shame
I'll never understand the appeal of this game.
256e13 No.16165764
>>16165705
RS3 is basically the biggest idle MMORPG right now.
6701f9 No.16165866
>>16160156
One of the mods added in a gay pride event without putting it through a poll, like pretty much every OSRS update had to. It did not go over well and there were widespread riots with players walking around in desert robes and wielding nooses acting like KKK members. It got so bad that for a short time Jagex banned anyone just wearing the robes.
b0ca81 No.16166059
>>16165866
>one of the mods
Are you seriously this fucking dense? Yeah, some schmuck from QA concepted and modelled the 3D objects, drew the 2D, wrote the narative, wrote the code, and did all that in complete secret; no dev sessions, no testing, no flow diagrams, no rendezvous with the QA team, just pasted it into the code and reset the server one day when the entire staff was busy reading reddit memes.
And every single clickbait news writer just happened to be playing runescape that day? Fuck me if you can't see that for the obvious publicity stunt to bring attention to the then-impending mobile release.
0c0f6e No.16167343
>>16160980
It's 2019 and babies have the GE
a2a867 No.16167886
>>16159841
Always with this nigger tier thinking, I'm starting to think you idiots took up MMOs after the NCIS episodes about high scores
It's this what made Runescape die off after a while, you're playing an MMO primarily to interact with actual people and not watch your numbers go up through your bots. Fuck you and fuck everyone who used bots, the best part about Runescape was always and forever will be the interaction part and once that died down to a crawl because little babbies wanted an idle clicker and bawled their eyes out for an incredibly simple quest like Shield of Varrock the game started to go to shit. You can have all these fancy shmancy quests with garbage story lines rip Guthix but at the end of the day my fondest memories of runescapes were fucking around with people, playing Clan Wars, Wildy PvP "tactics" consisting of fucking around with people, Castle Wars, Barbarian hordes.
It breaks my heart to log in the game on dedicating minigame servers and seeing them completely deserted and empty because everyone else would rather go into their own tiny little instances to see their numbers go up. Which is why I don't doubt for a second JaGeX could break bank if they planned out a good sandbox-like singleplayer RPG, that's all people want anymore.
a5330f No.16167934
>>16167886
Same reason modern players defend GE to the death; it prevents that pesky player interaction from getting in the way of their grinding to 99 and killing bosses, and makes it trivial to get exact market price for all items so there's no need to trade with a real person who might be trying to haggle.
fe5965 No.16168064
>>16167886
If you want to interact with people, join a chatroom; if you wanna grind forever, play an MMO. If you like fucking with people and minigames then, i dunno, GTA5 sounds about right. Maybe if you're lucky someone will mix GTA online with medieval fantasy open world someday, and then cram it full of pay2win because companies only exist to make money and that's an excellent cash drain for the stupid. Alternatively, play minecraft, since i'm given to understand that has multiple game-mode servers everywhere.
a459aa No.16168124
>>16168064
Nah, you're a modern MMO babby. You grew up seeing all the copy pasted MMOs and that is your whole idea of the genre, it's like you only played oblivion and skyrim and think you know what a RPG is. The reason why you see people talk about player interaction so much is because it's what runescape used to have and what people hoped would come back when they released oldschool runescape.
fe5965 No.16168170
>>16168124
RPGs are about goals: story, levels, and character development. MMOs don't have character personality to develop and most people don't want to hear about some faggot's donutsteel anyhow, so it's story and levels; story is told through quests, so the only thing that's left is levels. Any player interaction is either shooting the shit mind-grind, talking to people to get help for your own stuff, or being so sick of grind that you turn the game into a 3d chatroom, which we have now with VR sets and also i guess had in text format by way of IRC. You wanna have interaction with a bunch of randos in a video game, maybe try playing one of those shitty survival games which are passe now, like Rust. Hell, maybe even SS13 would work, depending on what you want out of it.
1063e4 No.16168178
>>16168124
>The reason why you see people talk about player interaction so much
What you want won't ever be a thing again. At least not in the foreseeable future and even then not in the same way we experienced; it goes without saying that many of us want to relive those moments in the now. You have to understand that games aren't being made to cater to our generation anymore. Developers are no longer the same basement dwellers, that were made fun of for being nerds and geeks, who programmed because they had a passion for it. The hobby is normalized and its hobbyists willingly open their arms in acceptance towards CURRENT YEAR ideology.
The sooner you acknowledge this the sooner you realize why you are here. Stop building castles in the sky.
6c0773 No.16168190
>>16168170
MMOs used to be all about interacting with people. There was lots of downtime between fights and adventures for people to sit and talk because your health didn't regen in 5 seconds flat. Hell SWG took this a few steps further and made it so you couldn't even fight your best unless you got dancer and doctor buffs first, meaning you had no choice and were forced to interact with other players. The point of all this is because MMOs were supposed to be 3D D&D.
Then hyperactive autistic faggots like you came along who wanted to eliminate all the little speedbumps in the way of their action, completely missing the point of the genre, and you turned MMOs into "shared world" trash. Together with a new generation of developers moulded by Bay Area soy, you couldn't figure out how to interact with real men so you collectively minmaxed all the interaction (read: fun) out of the game and turned it MMOs into solo games with dungeon queues.
EQ, DAoC, AC, SWG were the golden days. If you think modern MMOs are better you're a fucking chimp.
>>16167886
This anon knows what's up. Stop getting defensive about your 'tism and listen, and maybe you'll learn something.
be0349 No.16168218
>>16168190
End game raids are a valid focus. Getting together with 20+ other people to take on in-game challenges so difficult that less than .01% of the playerbase will ever manage to beat them at least while they are current content has both the social bit as well as a much more attractive core gameplay.
I'm not talking about the easy mode dungeons with randoms. I'm talking about the hardest of hardmode content that can only be done with groups of people who not only know what they are doing, but also know you well enough to know what you are doing as well, all with a sequence of progressively newer and even harder challenges to beat.
a5330f No.16168260
>>16168064
If you want to grind XP then play a JRPG or an idle game nigger. MMOs are multiplayer for a reason, and the reason isn't so you can grind XP alone.
05b677 No.16168275
>>16159835
Do fremmenik trials and fremminik isles as well as Royal trouble to get your kingdom going. Set it to herbs and Coal. Then get the varrock hard diary done for 60 cheap battlestaves per day and buy those from zaff's barrel and sell them or combine them with an air orb and alch them. Those two things should be able to sustain a bond. I sustain nearly two of them with a bit of slayer every two weeks
05b677 No.16168281
>>16168275
Make that hero's quest not fremennik isles. As well as throne of miscellania
a459aa No.16168295
>>16168275
Varrock hard isnt attainable that fast for someone just starting, medium is definitely easily done though.
05b677 No.16168302
>>16168295
That's true and the medium diary does allow for 30 battlestaves per day which isn't too bad and the reqs aren't that high either. Then as was said earlier herb runs running ranarrs is easy enough. I made my first green stack doing herb runs
fe5965 No.16168336
>>16168190
I started MMOs with Ragnarok Online; i'm no stranger to sitting around waiting for HP and SP to refill and shooting the shit in the downtime, but the major point of the game was killing monsters, getting loot, and gaining experience. If you had the money to spam potions or an acolyte either in your pocket or just sitting outside payon caves to heal you, you ignored all that talking bullshit and got to murdering. Even then, sitting around and forming a community was just a sideline to all kinds of gains, and you can't tell me that twenty-skill runescape is any different. 'Better' is a funny word, though: do you think cars are better than horses? Faster, more efficient, less maintenance, easier to control. As much as you like the feeling of a huge sweaty beast heaving under you, most people prefer cars because they're streamlined to be what's convenient. As much community building as might happen in an inconvenient MMO, people get frustrated with it, and i guarantee you lots of people playing Runescape made an effort to do as much as they could solo even over a decade ago. It's just inevitable; if you wanna blame anyone, blame the population that fell in love with WOW, one of the most convenient games of the era, and then moved on to new hotness after that lost it's flavor like MOBAs and battle royales, both of which are, in fact, convenient because they have contained matches rather than the randomness of meeting people in an open game and trying to get a gang together to do a low instance that nobody needs anymore and can't waste the time to do for a stranger. If you wanna blame anything, blame the fact that you're playing an old, dead game (which i am too atm tbh famalam im just not fucking being wistful about it) while damning the world around you for not having the same preferences as you for timesink grindathon MMOs that you recall fondly because if was your first internet communication, having somehow skipped right past usenets and IRC. Or, you know, maybe get in on Wurm or some other recruit thread the next time you see it and join other sad bastards in some shitawful inconvenience quest instead of moping about your electronic childhood sweetheart.
477613 No.16168366
>>16160110
Jagex is full of braindead slavs who listen to R*ddit. And of course, the R*dditors want easy baby funtime "quality of life" faggotry in their cookie clicker.
010243 No.16169175
>>16159843
>>16160110
This, why not roll your own server of the actual old RS?
5a572c No.16176983
>>16169175
>just run your own server
>just run your own board
>just run your own bank
>just run your own economy
>just run your own payment processor
>just run your own country
>just do it if you dont like the established ones lol what are you dumb?
05a48b No.16177120
>>16169175
How much would this cost?
ad0eac No.16177251
>>16168336
I prefer being under a huge sweaty beast actually
c792ad No.16177426
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16169175
>>16177120
there literally is one already called vscape
it even has double the normal XP rate so that getting to certain levels isn't a simply a matter of perseverance and autism
6550d6 No.16177512
>>16159835
just buy mems for a month and grind slayer and youll have good income, skilling sucks for money besides cancer shit like RC
010243 No.16177924
>>16176983
Yes, what's your point? Everything you listed after "board" isn't even comparable and you're just being retarded.
>>16177120
2.2$/day at worst. Significantly less if you host on a miniPC/laptop, at around 0.2$/day at worst.
>>16177426
I thought it was dead.
a2a867 No.16178025
>>16177512
>tfw runecrafting had a really fun minigame
>people stopped playing it
05a48b No.16178037
>>16177924
Thats dirt cheap. Fuck i dont know how but if somebody wants to do this I'd pay 20 bucks a month to play osrs if i can run around calling everyone niggers. Get two more guys and youre covering costs. I feel like theres gotta be a demographic for gaming nostalgia thats not only for the games themselves but for the unsjwness of eras bygone.
b41be6 No.16178119
>>16167886
Nostalgiafag casual, go back to playing Spyro the Dragon for the 100th time. You aren't 13 anymore, and that goes for the entire RS payerbase. The game has changed to accomadate this. You are trying to relive your childhood memories with a bunch of 20-somethings, and are shocked when they don't act like they did 10 years ago.
a2a867 No.16178136
>>16178119
Is playing Spyro an insult?
b41be6 No.16178157
>>16178136
being obsessed with muh childhood is the insult
010243 No.16178824
>>16178037
I'd host it for free, but my network goes to shit once I start torrenting or updating a bunch of software and I'd hate to provide a trash-tier service with a lot of down times.
There's the option of hosting the server on a VPS, but I'm not sure which providers allow hosting copyrighted games.
68781c No.16180986
>>16160135
I too remember the day r/osrs was so butthurt about a rainbow-colored scarf that they got themselves muted en masse throwing a riot about it.
0030ee No.16181037
>>16178824
You realize that's what /v/idya scape is right?
010243 No.16181244
>>16181037
No, I haven't played rs since 2010. I've already planned on setting up my own server in a few months so I don't really care about the /v/ server.
49eb22 No.16182168
I haven't played OSRS in over two years but I've never gotten around to cancelling my subscription fees.
bcecef No.16182246
>>16159862
Who is the artist?
bcecef No.16182279
>>16182246
I found it and I'm not seeing any BBC and only one NTR doujin?
7c255c No.16182332
>>16159835
farm runs are good
green dragons are still good
assuming you don't have very high stats so i wont suggest zulrah or something
716cf9 No.16182339
>>16159841
sea shanty 2 best music next to the login screen music
all other opinions discarded
186441 No.16185432
>>16160348
>can't be cheesed by dumping assloads of money into it
How naive you are anon. The jews just pay other players to do the dungeon floors for them, then afk until they can collect the xp at the end.
I hear the going rate is about 2mil per floor?
257831 No.16185470
Looks like the latest update completely fucked up the game, it's been live for about an hour now and they still havent said anything about a rollback. Instead they threaten to ban players. Latest update made the second most expensive item in game spawn right outside the farming guild.
186441 No.16185519
>>16185470
Oh I saw my clan talking about that. Good job 07 devs shitting the bed again.
257831 No.16185526
Also the pic is from some fag on reddit, quickest one I could find.
>>16185519
Cant get a single update without some game destroying shit in it, last one fucked over pures which was a bit funny at least.
186441 No.16185543
>>16185526
At least there's no mtx
1fe745 No.16185601
>>16185526
of course the redditor is on mobile.
3b7aa3 No.16185607
>they fucked up the game phenomonally to the point it's down and hasn't gotten back up
holy shit on top of that it's a massive fuckup too
c28d27 No.16185612
>>16181244
Why do you want to host your own so badly. Keep in mind /v/scape actually has more content and is more accurate than any other private server. It's not like WoW where you can just download a server off the internet and get something that is mostly working.
3b7aa3 No.16185616
>>16185612
I forgot my /v/scape password a long ass time ago
188da8 No.16185627
>>16177924
>I thought it was dead
If you are talking about the playerbase, it is more alive than any new server will be, unless someone has a perfect replica of the servers as they were in 2007. If you are talking about the hack, that's already been addressed in the thread.
257831 No.16185629
>Says they wont do a rollback
>Do a rollback anyway a few hours later
It's like they are intentionally trying to piss off as many people as possible. Is this the power of SJW fags in the team? Glad I could see them fucking this up like usual, there really is no point in playing the game for a few hours after an update.
186441 No.16185648
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16185629
It's really strange to see the difference between OSRS and RS3, have you watched some of the RS3 streams? They're top tier bants.
Give this a watch, they spend a good 80% of the time just ripping into each other, it's great.
Granted the RS3 team fucked up recently, adding a forced boss mechanic because people were killing this boss too fast, but forgot a line of code so it would trigger back to back and would wipe teams but they at least fixed it without too much fuss.
35e2b5 No.16185657
>>16185629
>Brendan Fraser already paid all of his alimony
At last he can unfuck his shit, poor guy.
a5330f No.16185663
>>16185648
>OSRS has bad devs, while RS3 has the bad version of the game
257831 No.16185671
>>16185648
My original character is still stuck in RS3, havent played it since way before the massive changes. All the bullshit on the screen and microtransactions completely puts me off though. Looking at the vid it looks like one of those MMOs copying WoW like Allods.
010243 No.16185710
>>16185612
>Why
Because of nostalgia and I want to play on my own server.
>has more content and is more accurate than any other private server.
Why didn't they publish the source code then? Are you telling me that the state of 2006-2010 version of RS servers is still as shit as it was 10 years ago?
a5330f No.16185720
>>16185671
>MMOs copying WoW
That's exactly what RS3 is, they're copying a lot of the popular concepts from all the other WoW-style MMOs and appealing to people who want boss raids and endgame content and have 0 patience. The entire F2P area feels like a huge bazaar of advertisements all competing for your attention at every corner, many of them being massive towers literally casting other places in their shadow and completely failing to fit into the world or leaving any breathing room between others like it, demigod-looking creatures standing in roadways, quests putting more and more focus on cutscenes, every piece of equipment is now more detailed and decorated than Armadyl armor used to be, etc. The comfiness level of the game has dropped to 0.
They recently nerfed the fuck out of mining and smithing by letting you automine ores, making each ore node infinite, and you can carry an unknown amount of ore on you (at least hundreds), plus both anvils and furnaces now function as a connected second bank that stores ore and ingots. If you go online you'll see countless "XXxfaggot_1245 reached 99 in all skills" type announcements every day because skilling has become so easy.
I wanted to try it after I heard of the mining update but it's kind of painful seeing what the game has become, there's so much cancer jammed into everything that I couldn't list it all if I wanted to. There's some neat things in there though like more equipment/weapon types and dual wielding and significantly improved game client and stuff, but the game has fundamentally lost it's soul.
699c4a No.16186404
>>16185710
>Are you telling me that the state of 2006-2010 version of RS servers is still as shit as it was 10 years ago?
yes
>Why didn't they publish the source code then?
Why should they so long as their server's running? /v/scape's one weakness is its low amount of users, why should they do something that would only keep players away?
5a572c No.16186719
>>16185470
fucking lmao, they really made the twisted bow spawn on the ground? fucking ridiculous. these stupid SJW niggers are running the game into the ground even more than they did with RS3
010243 No.16186839
>>16186404
>Why should they so
Because server development has clearly not moved, releasing fixes publicly would improve the state of servers for the community as a whole. There's literally no reason to NOT release source. The way they started their own server is by taking sources from someone else and improving them. Not giving relevant patches back to the community is the equivalent of not seeding torrents, which just makes them look like trash.
>keep players away
It wouldn't. Anyone who wants to host a server will host it with the current shitty setups. They wouldn't lose users, they'd just save time for future server devs.
You seem to have a very childish view on development.
170c83 No.16187147
>>16185720
>every piece of equipment is now more detailed and decorated than Armadyl armor used to be, etc
This is what kills me the most. I gave it a free pass for dungoneering because it's all supposed to be ancient armors and the progression looked pretty decent, but there's no need for regular armors to look like chinese MMO endgame armors with how overdesigned they feel.
293d58 No.16187564
>>16185720
I checked out RS3 a few years ago and this is basically what I thought of it. I'm sure certain things are better, including combat, but everything from the artstyle to the MTX and focus on XP just puts me off.
>log in, stupid treasure chest icon appears each time to remind you to play the MTX minigame
>everyone's walking around in over-designed, over-the-top store outfits
There was also some summer event where you could click on sandcastles for XP, and I went from 1-70 in construction in like 20-25 hours without doing anything remotely related to the skill.
a0448f No.16187672
>>16186839
Sounds like you want open source solely becauseyou yourself can't program shit.
/v/idyascape would be fine if more people played, but pre-GE RS servers are going to suffer from lack of demand, mainly thanks to OSRS.
801df3 No.16187767
Are there any populated Runescape Classic private servers?
I enjoyed playing RSC and I have the itch to play again since Jagex killed the servers.
186441 No.16188216
>>16187564
Implying you'd want to do anything in construction anyway. It's a shit skill and needs a rework. Houses are nigh useless thanks to lodestones. Only thing good about them is aquariums for the passive fishing boosts and lecterns for various teletabs.
010243 No.16188995
>>16187672
No, because I don't want to waste time if I know that someone already fixed a thousand undisclosed bugs in a currently obscure game which already has open source servers. If (((/v/))) isn't giving back to the community then I don't give a shit about them.
d6dfec No.16189018
>>16162953
add lunars and item packs you retards
1095f5 No.16189058
>>16187767
There's RSCrevolution. It has custom updates like new quests and slayer and 100s of people on at any time.
But you know why? It has a GE, mobile client, exp multipliers, quests that give insane exp and makes updates based on poll results so it gets "Qol" patches on par with osrs. Oh and one of the (ex?) admins is a twink who shows off his asshole on chaturbate. If you play go ironman.
c792ad No.16189123
>>16189018
Lunar is pretty overdue. Personally I'm waiting on fairy rings
1095f5 No.16189376
>>16189123
>waiting on making the game even easier
>>r/ChurchOfTheBBC
d64124 No.16189481
>>16189376
>>>r/ChurchOfTheBBC
That's not actually a thing, is it?
Don't answer that.
0030ee No.16189503
>>16188995
>runescape
>obscure
ac9163 No.16189726
>>16189376
>directs me to reddit
>while both failing to crossmeme and reddit spacing
>>>/r4chan/
main reason I want it is because I never got to play the fairy quests back when I had membership in '08, I actually really want cold war and some others to be implemented too
801df3 No.16190102
>>16189058
I was hoping there were servers that just stuck to the original formula but I will probably at least check it out
29ec85 No.16190192
Quit not worth the time investment
I get addicted every couple of years and its such a waste of time
10 hours of grind for 1 hour of fun is not worth it
29ec85 No.16190248
>>16185629
They literally have a faggot mod
fd3528 No.16193050
can someone answer me this because I can't find a clear answer anywhere online and I dont want to make a reddit account to ask the fags there.
When you are doing clue scrolls, and it tells you do do X with certain items equipped, can you have OTHER things equipped along with the required items? I never thought anything of it till I just got the clue "have no jewelry equipped" implying that you may have other items besides the required ones.
if this is TRUE then im fucking retarded and have been handicapping myself for a long time.
6eb91c No.16193456
>>16193050
>can you have OTHER things equipped along with the required items?
Yes
83c476 No.16195296
>>16167886
>you're playing an MMO primarily to interact with actual people and not watch your numbers go up through your bots.
So it's a shitty chatroom.
8648f8 No.16195531
>new poll about removing the wilderness ditch and replace it with a toggable warning
>wont win because votes didnt hit 75 percent
>bring it up at populated GE
>EVERYONE thinks I'm insane for wanting to remove the wilderness ditch
>get called toxic because I mention all the stuff that was removed that took sway from player interaction
Theres a vocal minority in this game that actively hate the good things that used to make runescape one of the best mmos on the market.
63eb65 No.16197711
Hey guys. Let's talk about another unique mmo : Puzzle Pirates.
05b677 No.16197756
>>16195531
People hate pkers and everything to do with pvp because they went into the wilderness and died. This is the state of mmo communities these days. They're so fucking stupid that they'll go into a pvp area and get butthurt about pvp.
I guarantee if they removed the wilderness again it would be praised endlessly
6a9bb4 No.16197795
>>16195531
see
>>16195296
These people are the most profitable to cater to because they are the most numerous (read: "normalfag") and have a tendency to congregate in large groups even if they later shun player interaction for being "inconvenient". The are also complete comsumers and are sadisfied being dragged through an 'experience' rollercoaster rather than filling the gaps with their imagination, hence all modern mmos being story-driven hotkeymashers.
Which is why you get assholes like anon saying shit like "shitty chatroom". At the end of the day camping is just a "shitty house" with a "shitty heater" and a "shitty bed" to someone who values convenience over experience. The virtual D&D was never for everyone in fact it was made by and for a very neiche crowd.
c792ad No.16197864
>>16197711
is there a pp private server?
wouldn't mind trying that one out again
1dbd64 No.16197873
>>16197756
But anon instead of fighting poopyhead meanies in PvP you get spoooky ghosts in PvE!
231d81 No.16202457
>>16159835
buying runes and reselling them on ge has been making me decent money so far
btw anyone have a redpilled /comfy/ clan i can join? the one i'm in now is full of rick anfd morty fags.
dffee3 No.16202611
75853c No.16206523
You use a bot and play it like it's cookie clicker. The grind is some korean MMO level shit
c68798 No.16206531
>>16206198
This is what you support and perpetuate when you give jagex your money. Every runescape dev is so cucked they'd let tyrone's jizz drip into their mouths from the wife's cunt just to get a taste of it so you know these bitter aged whores in the "diversity team" call the shots there.
5d2919 No.16206536
>>16206198
And did they even bother to ask the playerbase if it was of interest, or did they learn their lesson about that with the gay parade?
256e13 No.16206551
>>16206531
It's OK I only spend money on those RS gold farming websites. It's usually cheaper to pay for membership buying RS gold -> bond than directly buying a bond anyways.
c68798 No.16207098
>>16206551
>Implying rsgold sites aren't owned by jagex or the very chinks they serve.
abf9ff No.16217666
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I wish that I could go back.
df8957 No.16219844
>>16206198
>bringing in women
>youownnothingoyim.png
Fugg. It was nice while it lasted.
36c514 No.16220651
>>16182168
>but I've never gotten around to cancelling my subscription fees.
This had better be bait nigga
186441 No.16220980
>>16207098
I never looked in on this, it was today right?
Is there a fag that when on reddit & caught this inevitable trashfire as it happened?
1b386f No.16221448
>>16220980
I quickly checked a bit, saw some faggots angry about them not answering questions and mostly the usual circlejerk of how awesome diversity is and some callbacks to the gay parade thing and those incels/neckbeards/alt righters "crying" and being "snowflakes" about it. Just pretty much exactly what you would expect from reddit. This is what I got from various threads about the topic, not the AMA itself. I cant find the actual AMA and the site is giving my eyes and computer cancer.
7b2c84 No.16225173
>OSRS
Man, that version of Runescape was horrible. I wish they had gone to 2010 - 2012 Runescape, like pre-eoc.
I miss being the people in wildy who would rush players with Korasi while wearing Elite void.
05b677 No.16225203
>>16221448
In the actual AMA about the lack of customer support in game and why the only people who ever get support are people who's reddit or twitter thread complaining about it get a bunch of upvotes because apparently the women are from the customer service department. So considering their customer service is run by a bunch of diversity hires it's no wonder that their customer service is complete dogshit.
They of course ignored the question completely
http://archive.is/3Cbxn
>>16225173
OSRS as it is now is closer to pre eoc 2010-2012 runescape than it is 2007
05b677 No.16225228
>>16225203
>In the actual AMA about the lack of customer support in game
The first part of my post accidentally got deleted I meant to say
The top question in the actual AMA was about the lack of customer support in game
60440b No.16225239
>>16225203
>>16225228
>Women in costumer support
>Only time costumers get noticed is if they post on social media
You can't make this shit up
a5330f No.16225255
>>16225203
>>16225239
What are the chances they are too stupid to understand how to use Jagex's internal tools for handling customer support?
abf9ff No.16225269
Why did they stop allowing people to sell holiday items? I remember getting the Scythe. Remember the female breast plates?
8648f8 No.16225302
>tfw need to train agility to level 70 before I can get to the meaty pve stuff
This is possibly the worst skill ever
7b2c84 No.16225304
>>16225239
Funny, I wanted to contact JSupport about me being permanently muted, and guess what? I tried the one on Twitter, and I was basically told to fuck off and make a new account, then I tried to see if they had any kind of support email I can contact. They fucking don't have one, wtf.
a5330f No.16225307
>>16225269
>Why did they stop allowing people to sell holiday items?
Probably so every holiday doesn't just turn into an autistic hoarding game where everyone makes 700 alt accounts to get as many as possible.
f75d81 No.16235412
>>16235256
Гиелинор је Србија
8648f8 No.16235899
>>16225307
>>16225269
You havent been able to trade scythes since ever, except Darkscape.
>>16225304
I was able to get my perm muted account unmuted by just appealing it in the account settings page.
643b83 No.16235921
>giving jagex money when you could be playing Project Gorgon
a5330f No.16235930
>>16235921
>project gorgon
Terraria is clearly a better use of your money
dc9989 No.16236147
>>16235930
Is there a better use of my time rather than money?
a5330f No.16236226
>>16236147
Something that isn't videogames.
05b677 No.16236273
>>16225255
I don't think jagex has internal tools for customer support. They've always been notoriously bad for customer support, there's people who give a shit in jagex but they're overshadowed by terrible management and support.
For example the other week one of the devs in OSRS fucked up and accidentally started spawning the best bow in the game (which goes for over a billion gold) just on the ground and so they were forced to do a rollback and a lot of people died and lost items.
Mod Ash one of the original devs of the game who now works on OSRS responded to over 800 people on twitter trying to help them out. This guy who isn't customer support but one of the core devs spent countless hours of his off work time trying to sort out player's problems and their shitty customer support instead gets praised just because they have a cunt. It's really dumb jagex's management is retarded. I think the only reason the game is a success at all is because of a few extremely dedicated and talented people who take on all the responsibility while the rest of the company jacks themselves off. You always hear about the 80/20 thing where 20 percent of people take on 80 percent of the work but at jagex I think it's 95/5 where 5 percent of people take on 95 percent of the work
56b02d No.16236700
Runescape is gay, play Dofus instead.
a5330f No.16236732
>>16236273
The only reason Runescape is relevant is because the original developers made something very good. Current Jagex is just riding on that success, both teams failing miserably at properly taking care of it which is why it seems like there's a bunch of literal monkeys running the OSRS team and why RS3 completely misses the point of what made Runescape good and drifts further and further from it every day.
477613 No.16238387
>>16195531
That's because modern Slayerscape is about making life easier for PvM babies. They hate PKers and they actively vote against good updates just to spite the guy who took their addy long and mithril med eight years ago; of course if you put it to a vote "remove PKing from the game" they'd be up in arms. May as well be removed, trying to find someone in the wildy outside of a bounty hunter world is nigh impossible.
The wilderness is the only place a PvM baby will ever die and LOSE their items. If you die anywhere else you have an hour to get your shit back or if you fight a boss you just pay 100k to get it back from an NPC. There is zero risk in this game outside of PvP. The only times I see people die is from AFKing.
Maybe it's just a modern "efficiency now, fun never" videogame mindset. Back in the day I'd get a slayer task for greater demons and only knew where they were because of a time when I got lured into the wilderness. Nowadays, it's go to this specific spot, setup your cannon, and afk. Don't even get me started on the fucking Nightmare Zone, a "minigame" designed to be AFKed and it's more efficient combat exp than anything else in the entire fucking game.
6c2f8b No.16242925
>>16236700
>play Dofus instead
Man I love the animated series, I even backed the Wakfu kickstarter, but even I know the actual game is dogshit
186441 No.16243118
>>16238387
That's really weird that a death in OSRS costs around 100k, as a death in PvM in RS3 can be fairly frequent against higher tier bosses, talking death being about 2 seconds away at any point in time if you don't play well and death costs range from about 300-600k in cheapest budget gear to 6 mil or more if you're looking to be more efficient, and if you don't pay you have about 5 minutes at most to get back to your grave.
Generally just better to pay for it though as if you go to your grave you lose a bunch of item charges, and then you have to pay to repair your weapons/armour or it just degrades to dust.
4cf298 No.16244623
>>16236732
>>>16236273
>The only reason Runescape is relevant is because the original developers made something very good. Current Jagex is just riding on that success, both teams failing miserably at properly taking care of it which is why it seems like there's a bunch of literal monkeys running the OSRS team and why RS3 completely misses the point of what made Runescape good and drifts further and further from it every day.
>
I played way too much osrs chasing the fun of 2006 and 2011
Its not the same
Still kinda fun but such a waste of time
So many better games with less time investment
461130 No.16244671
I play ironman mode (pic is a years worth of grind) and it's sorta fun, wouldn't recommend it to anyone though for 4 big reasons.
1. The updates have brought it too close to pre-eoc in just about every way
2. the community is too reddit and twitter based, you practically need to go to reddit to follow updates and they've unofficially shipped off their customer support to the subreddit.
3. bonds allowed the 3rd world BRs and venezuelans into what used to be a fairly anglo centric game on top of being micro transactions that somehow no one considers micro transactions.
4. the reddit-tard community is on the brink of voting in a new absolute shit tier skill because apparently what was meant to be a legacy version of the game needs to evolve constantly for fear of losing players.
3f72ab No.16244835
>>16242925
Dofus is infinitely better than Wakfu, is not dogshit at all.
477613 No.16247864
>>16243118
>osrs is easier than rs3
can't make this shit up
ac235e No.16247892
>>16244671
the game went downhill when the first poll came out and people actually voted against the classic game tbh. i played an ironman as well though which is fun. as much as i love ironman though it ruined the game by making everyone even more antisocial.
i miss the really old osrs where people still sold stuff in west varrock. i also played the projectrs06 private server before osrs came out and i think that's where west varrock trading came from, besides proximity to where the ge used to be. there's really nothing like trying to buy items in no-ge runescape by reading tons of scrolling/flashing text from randoms until you get a good price. a unique experience that's buried in the rubble of the voting system.
11d75a No.16247903
>>16159835
the grind is the funnest thing.
8cb4df No.16248303
I think OSRS is headed in the same direction as RS3. They released Zulrah and fucked with the price of resources and then they added Raids 1 & 2 which made gold completely worthless. Is this not the same shit that happened to RS3 where everything but a few activities are dead content? Skilling for GP is already dead besides black chins. Not to mention every slayer creature ever drops more death runes and manta rays than you can use up. Tell the team to stop hiring new retarded content developers.
692869 No.16248336
>>16248303
Any game is fucked the moment they decide to listen to players instead of making decisions based on their own vision for the game. That said the amount of developers in the world who'd have valid visions for old school Runescape can be counted with 1 hand by an amputee.
There's only 2 solutions, either a fan effort to develop a private server, or an indie spiritual sequel.
e16417 No.16248344
>>16248336
minecrafta says hi cuck
692869 No.16248348
>>16248344
Mods are not even remotely the same thing.
e16417 No.16248360
>>16248348
>guy makes mod
>minecraft community says they want the mod
>notch puts it in
<not the same thing dude
k
692869 No.16248381
>>16248360
What are you even arguing here? Runescape 3 and OSRS are really popular, most people probably like the cancer that the developers shove in, that doesn't mean they're good decisions nor that they make the game better. Otherwise you'll have to agree that Fortnite is currently the best game in the world.
The same goes for your shitty lego game, in fact it's even worse because the only reason it's relevant in the first place is because mods, not because of what Notch or Mojang adds into it.
b0844d No.16248384
>>16248336
>option A
already pretty much done
>option B
I don't think something can emulate the feeling of real RS in the heyday. Any attempt at making a new MMO will have a better chance of if it focuses oon looking forward. I've had an idea for a roughly RS-inspired killer MMO for a while now but I've been keeping a lot of details secret because I know just how much potential it has. No idea how to actually go about finding some team to make it, though.
63ae8f No.16248409
>>16248381
>Runescape 3 and OSRS are really popular
>most people probably like the cancer that the developers shove in, that doesn't mean they're good decisions
Pick one you stupid nigger. The object of a business is to make money.
477613 No.16248411
>>16248303
They did this because they're too lazy/incompetent to stop botters from woodcutting yews. It's harder to write a script for Zulrah than it is to download an autoclicker for coal mining.
b0844d No.16248420
>>16248360
With Minecraft it's bit different since changes aren't as unilateral and permanent as an MMO. Players might love the idea of getting tons of rare runes dropped from a new slayer creature in the short term, but is that good for the long term heath of the game? With Minecraft, players can still mod out official changes they don't like or use a previous version of the game. With Runescape that's not possible, at least not with the official servers. Te best you can do is patch the game again later, but the damage has already been done, you can't take fairly acquired items out of the game without giving them something, and just like that the game's economy is permanently warped.
692869 No.16248421
>>16248384
>already pretty much done
/v/scape or whatever isn't actively developed, that's the primarily reason I'm not interested personally. I already saw and did it all a decade ago during the lifetime of original RS2, along with all the things that were added afterwards that OSRS doesn't have.
>Any attempt at making a new MMO will have a better chance of if it focuses oon looking forward
Yeah that's what I meant, the spirit behind it can be translated to a new game and merged with new concepts.
>>16248409
We're not talking about business, we're talking about good games.
a5330f No.16248535
>>16248384
>I've had an idea for a roughly RS-inspired killer MMO for a while now
>how to actually go about finding some team to make it
That's my dream, to make an MMO. Or if it fails then at least release the engine in hopes of helping other indie devs make MMOs. I've got a long way to go before I can make something like that though, but based on my dev experience so far I actually don't think it's as hard as it sounds as long as you start small like RS classic, so maybe it'll happen one of these years…
8cb4df No.16248593
>>16248336
I think the issue is bigger than just the players and shitty developers. Mod Kieren has mentioned TWICE that the optimal drop table would be one spicy & expensive item plus some other shit to cover the supply cost. Yet hydra, revs, current zulrah, vorkath and every slayer creature ever shits out constant 1m gp/h in alchables and they still hire more shitty content developers. It's obvious the chinks hold great power over this game and will please cancerous reddit kiddies until the game is fucking dead
>>16248411
It's funny because they admitted that was the case with Zulrah's drop table shitting out pure essence and flax, now they've extended the same philosophy to literally every gathering skill besides hunter.
64c947 No.16248782
>>16248336
And don't you think the reason why they went with the drop table that enables algorithm whoring "1.7M per hour EXP at ZULRAH??" youtube videos because want to appeal to the LCD, in other words listen to the players.
>>16248336
What vision? Jagex is a subsidiary of Zhongji Holding ltd and everyone from the original team has been gone so long and replaced so many times it may as well be renamed.
be0ecc No.16248825
>>16248593
>2019 cuckchan cap
Just leave
8cb4df No.16248871
>>16248825
and where do you get your runescape shitposts from? Reddit?
c25dd0 No.16250244
>training Agility in the wilderness course with 4 other players
>getting pretty good exp
>out of nowhere some kid with a runite crossbow and possibly bronze bolts starts sniping at people
>can't run away
>someone completed the course only to get killed by a dragon scimmy
>fucking PKer had the audacity to say some reddit tier shit while killing all of us
>"take a breather and relax"
I vote against all PvP updates just to spite you motherfuckers
I don't care if PKing has always been a part of OSRS
You fucking pieces of shit can get bent and enjoy the last days of your outdated and dying content
FUCK YOU
186441 No.16250264
>>16250244
>Getting so mad at being PKed that you attempt to crash the game with no survivors
a37b83 No.16250285
>>16248384
>killer mmo
Reminds me of that one guy who was talking about a friend who would lure other players as a girl and would kill them, apparently had a bounty on them from being so notorious . Details are a bit fuzzy sadly, but anything that brings hardcore pvp back is a win in my book. Good luck to you anon
05b677 No.16250315
>>16248871
>and where do you get your runescape shitposts from? Reddit?
>using either
Holy fucking shit you're a cancerous faggot
293d58 No.16250352
>>16165705
>>16190192
I like the world/music/concept of the game, but the grind is pretty ridiculous. I actually logged in recently and quickly remembered why I don't play anymore.
>>16250244
>getting mad that someone killed you in the wilderness
68e796 No.16250393
>>16250244
Wild was great when they put PKing into Bounty Hunter only
e8251b No.16250428
>>16250264
i dont think this lady is laughing
186441 No.16250458
>>16250428
I'm positive she is.
e6cea1 No.16250540
>>16250244
Guess I'm going to have to PK you and your noobie buddies this weekend.
5ceb63 No.16250860
>Be overleveled as fuck
>Decide to finally do fight caves
>Clear all waves easily
>Die to offscreen Jad hit
>Still over an hour wasted
Fuck, I realized I didnt even know what sound to look out for.
11d75a No.16251009
>>16250244
I was always scared of the Wildi, I've never been there.
a2c6df No.16251084
>>16160321
>Becausee GE lead to inflation of items
Was there even a way to correctly value items before the GE?
Also, how does a marketplace cause inflation when it's inevitable to happen since theres going to be an endless amount of people, grinding materials, to sell them for varying prices. All it did was make it easier to get stuff without having to filter through a shit-ton of chat spam to find what you want, deal with people trying to scam, dealing with dumb asses who say they're trading something and say "offer" and you give a reasonable price and they say "No" and then log off.
Here's the real problem GE caused: It made getting various skills way too easy. Now you can just sit there, casting high alch, or fletch, or do herblore shit, sell your stuff, buy more, and just do it endlessly. That shit is fucking boring.
Also, does anyone else remember when getting herbs was a gamble? You couldn't find out what it was unless you tried cleaning it and then you'd get a "Needs X level to clean" so people would say they're selling ranarr herbs but end up being guam because there was no fucking way to check?
11d75a No.16251119
>>16251084
>Was there even a way to correctly value items before the GE?
The price was usually set by the free market, meaning anyone could set a price.
These were the average street prices everyone went by.
477613 No.16251129
>>16160189
Prices are set by Jagex and Jagex are protectionist faggots who are afraid of merch clans crashing twisted bows to 1gp.
05b677 No.16251242
>>16160321
The GE didn't lead to the inflation of items, items not leaving the game or exchanging hands without fucking gold did.
Due to constant DDoS attacks Jagex changed the way the game functioned so that when you died your items lasted on the ground for 40 minutes and were NEVER available to other people to pick up.
Nearly every single death in game is a safe death nobody ever loses items except to pvp.
There's no more lucking out to someone dying near you due to negligence and you profiting from someone's mistake, there's no more items just disappearing on the ground due to no one claiming them.
PvMer banks NEVER lose value and only ever grow. That's leading to far more item inflation than anything else in game
ba6c29 No.16251623
>RS3 has all the great quests from 2001-2011 but they're buried underneath garbage lore additions/retcons
>world map is completely cluttered because Jagex refuses to actually expand it beyond a few mediocre islands
>OSRS introduces Zeah which is great in concept but the execution was completely botched
>every House has to get its own rework starting with Hosidius
>nearly all the content added is ezmode shit like Wintertodt and Farming Guild that trivialize Firemaking and Farming
>both games focus on PvM to an absurd degree rather than quests or in OSRS's case finishing the original world map
>every instance of "RuneScape" as a location was changed to "Gielinor" because Jagex doesn't want people to think OSRS is the 'real' RuneScape
>no vanilla private servers that don't have boosted exp rates or aren't missing content
it just ain't right
ff739c No.16251659
>>16251623
yeah, this. exactly how I feel about it… yet, whemever I expressed those same details, I am usually (by OSRS players), to just step out of my nostalgia bubble, etc..
it sucks man, especially since I find myself craving RS every now and again like an addiction
ff739c No.16251660
>>16251659
usually told* apologies
9745f2 No.16251704
>>16162328
I enjoyed this story anon
709018 No.16252170
>Try fight caves again
>Huge fucking slog
>Finally know what sound to look out for
>The moment the healers spawn jad stops making sounds
186441 No.16252872
>>16252170
Watch his front legs, they'll tell you more than any sound. The only reason to listen for a sound is in the event of him spawning somewhere you can't see him but he can hit you.
709018 No.16254028
>>16252872
Yea I try to watch the legs since my hearing is shit anyway but I was too focused on the healers and not that familiar with the blowpipe range so I ran into his melee trying to get the last one. Ill get it next time, just have to bring myself to sit through the waves without falling asleep. I also cant believe how good the blowpipe is, back then all we had was the crystal bow.
7cbaba No.16254040
>>16252170
>tfw you finally finish fight caves
I was so overprepared for the experience because I seldom tried. I ended with half my food and pots left, having done the conservative method of slowly healing every wave for 3 hours. Worth the firecape? Maybe, but I stopped playing shortly afterwards.
709018 No.16254112
>>16254040
Same shit here man, put on my ranged gear and brought guthans, sara godsword, couple of sharks and the rest prayer pots. I always end up postponing stuff like the lava cape and the fighter torso. Might end up just getting the tassets instead but im going to have to do barbarian assault one day anyway because of the diaries.
7cbaba No.16254342
>>16254112
I just can't bring myself to grind hard like others do. I mean, I've gotten a pretty skilled up account with everything above 70 but nothing above 87. It's just such a hassle to do, and I've got no one to do it with anyways. The last thing I was roll my two free chests and get a lucky arma godsword and lucky chaotic off hand claws. RS3 if it wasn't obvious by now.
709018 No.16254378
>>16254342
My original character is still stuck in RS3, never bothered to play it after I quit so many years ago. It's almost a different game now so I might give it a try sometime in the future, how "dead" is RS3?
>I just can't bring myself to grind hard like others do
I have the same thing, I see people do their entire agility grind to full graceful outfit/70 agility and I cant even be bothered to do more than 20 laps even though levelling everything is now so much easier than I was used to. I always go back to slayer and even that isnt "high" for someone with my playtime. It just feels weird in this game, normally im always one of those faggots who maxes characters and grinds obscene amounts of shit but I somehow lost that spark in runescape. I still enjoy playing it but I feel like a casual.
b4dbd6 No.16259586
>>16162328
Underrated story, thanks for sharing it
8d5de2 No.16259600
>>16251623
>Firemaking
Fuck firemaking. It was a worthless, time sink trainwreck of a skill that people remember because it's usually their first 99.
t. first 99 firemaking
b4dbd6 No.16259631
>>16159835
I've been playing RS on and off since 2003. What are all the ways that players can have fun? Starting with the obvious,
>Grinding. Watching my numbers goes up was fun/fulfilling as a kid, but I'm disillusioned as an adult and no longer find it fulfilling. I guess I can see why other people still do, but there's just no entertainment in it for me
>Minigames, but they mostly just boil down to 'click dude until his HP numbers run out. Repeat for next dude.' This isn't nearly as much fun for me now as, say, Castle Wars was for me in 2004
>PvP, same as the above more or less, just with more risk & reward involved
>PvE. See grinding, optionally with more risk & reward if you do bossing
>Fashionscape. Requires a certain mindset though. You either have to constantly stay invested in caring about what your character looks like, or fool yourself into thinking that people notice what your character looks like, they mirin', and that's somehow fun
>Questing was never really fun for me, it was always just a means to finish an incomplete quest or work toward some goal that was beneficial to grinding
>Roleplaying sounds like it could make for some fun times in theory, but in practice it always seems either cringy, or other people are too stupid/confused to play along, or they type about as fast as a fucking sloth, etc.
>Giving away free shit to noobs was sort of fun, but what do you really get out of it besides "Ty" a third of the time, crickets chirping another third of the time, and "Sry no english" + other misc. responses the rest of the time? I'm also not sure how I feel about enabling others to keep playing these shitty grindfest MMOs when I should be encouraging them to quit and play better games
Although I keep coming back to RS every now and then, I haven't had fun with it in many years. Haven't touched it in a couple of years either. When it comes to having real fun with the game, all I'm left with is the idea of niche shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0PyYr90fuM&t=3m34s
Minus getting people killed, 'cause ruining other peoples' day ain't fun for me either.
Improving my PoH used to be one of the most enjoyable things in the game for me when I was a teenager, but if I were to get invested in OSRS, to what end would I be investing large amounts of time and effort into my house? What could I do with mine that hasn't already been done a thousand times before, and what would make it entertaining?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what are some niche ways to have tangible, exciting fun in either OSRS or RS3?
57f006 No.16261507
>>16160110
What you wanted was fucking annoying chat spam and 11 year olds asking female characters to be their 'gf'. You're the real fag here.
8d5de2 No.16267044
>>16266372
>that rune
I'm puking here
04b620 No.16267048
Been playing on my phone at work, I'm surprised that OSRS runs as well as it does, and it's free now too
e6cea1 No.16267235
>>16267198
That's Crondis, the goddess of love and earthly delights. After Crondis was corrupted by an evil force she demanded that her followers horde and bestow all of the desert's pleasures to her. It's implied that any followers that disobeyed were eaten.
1f008f No.16267239
>>16267189
It really bothers me how badly everything fits together. It's something I've noticed in pretty much all of RS3, it's as if they give some interns projects like "make a ship" or "make a tower", then they make it as detailed and cool looking as possible while having no context of where in the world it is and what's around it.
I mean look at that wizard's tower, you have a very detailed and elaborate and posh marble tower with futuristic diagonal support pillars and mystical alien-like lamps… in the middle of a swamp with a shitty ass molding tree in front of it.
This is a large part of why the world feels so soulless.
04b620 No.16268412
What level should you grind your shit to when you're on tutorial island
322e22 No.16268430
>>16268412
just complete the task and move on.
ba6c29 No.16268465
>>16268412
Tutorial Island skills cap at Level 3
64c947 No.16268847
Be honest here. How many of you would play on a private server if it was a no-bs serious 2004-6 server with all the content?
8d5de2 No.16269154
>>16268847
I don't know. I don't feel like I have the time or patience for a game like runescape anymore.
e19233 No.16269534
>>16267239
If you could give the Runescape map the Cataclysm treatment what would you change?
4f9453 No.16269545
64c947 No.16269578
>>16269545
I can't speak for runescape 3 as I think anything after 2007 is cancer but I guess it applies. I'd keep the towns and landmarks the same size but make the areas and wilderness 10x the size and up the danger factor in them.
>>16269534
69 :')
a5330f No.16273492
>>16269534
>overhaul the map
Sounded fun so I gave it a try. I wish there was a map editor so you could change the actual game world. Summary of some of the more relevant changes:
- removed those massive gay god event spots that look completely hideous and don't fit the world at all. If you really need them then put them out somewhere more obscure.
- removed grand exchange and created a larger market in the middle of Varrock instead. The functionality can be at the middle of the market, instead of tucked in some corner, I never liked the original placement of GE, I never liked GE period.
- moved clan camp to where GE was, below falador is a very somber and comfy foresty location and I hate how Jagex tries to ruin it by filling it with huge event shit
- on the note of huge ugly event shit; restored the forest behind Lumbridge, I have fond memories of exploring it and being confused by the house and training attack levels on goblins, it's one of the best casual forest areas in my opinion.
- made the main road in draynor village go through a bit of the village instead of curving around on the outside
- rearranged the lumbridge swamp. The corruption is another thing that just looks out of place and makes another otherwise interesting location look gamified, so I tried to put it aside. I also created a whole new extended swamp, and moved the abyssal portal thing there. The new swamp could have medium/high level monsters and stuff.
- wizard's tower should be less futuristic, though I can't convey it on the map properly. Maybe it could be made of some fancy and/or slightly magical wood.
- split al kharid into 2 styles, the bright sand clashes horribly with the grassy area next to it, so I thought it might be nice to have a sort of transitional desert area, some kind of red desert or wasteland or crag or something. Honestly I'd like to redo the whole left border area of al kharid but I'm not sure what to put there. Maybe some huge farm area with mobs and skilling?
- changed the shape of duel arena so it fits into al kharid in a more interesting way (thought it would be cool if you could see and go into it from the city).
- swapped the locations of mage training area and digsite. Mage training area doesn't fit the original location at all, but an archeological area would fit a desert environment well I think, plus there's a mining area right next to it.
- left of falador seems like a shady place so I moved makeover mage next to the mage training area instead. He could be in wizards tower or Rimmington or east falador as well, but I think mage training area could use some other stuff around it. Also for the same reason I like the idea of swapping melzar's maze and crafting guild, plus crafting guild's mining is similar to the mining site. I also like the idea of moving the whole Rimmingon a little left, gives more breathing space for things and makes Rimmington feel more special. I heavily considered adding a bank there, but it feels wrong. Maybe there should be one in the crafting guild.
- expanded Ice Mountain range and put monastery there, I think it suits it. Moved the school/cockroach place to edgeville while I was at it, it doesn't make much sense in the barbarian village.
I'd like to enhance Falador somehow, it doesn't have many meaningful points of interest in and around it compared to Varrock. I'd also like to expand port sarim just a little, but not sure how to go about it. I thought about moving Port Sarim left all the way to the left to the south west of Falador, and flipping most of Falador so that the south entrance is on the left side, that would make it feel like Falador is a combo with Port Sarim. I also thought of combining Falador and Port Sarim and redesigning the entire south Asgarnia. Port Sarim is pretty distracting when you're in draynor village because the increased draw distance makes all the huge ass boats bulge out into the tiny lake.
But on the other hand Falador and Port Sarim have distinct styles and feels, and there's a high likelihood that as a new player you'll wander into Port Sarim before Falador, and I kinda don't want to lose that. Having Port Sarim at the left does sound interesting though.
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c29fd1 No.16276877
>>16251119
>cooked items more expensive than raw
What the fuck is this shit?
d6b61e No.16277021
>>16269154
This pretty much. I have put in a disgusting amount of hours into /v/scape though and its probably as close to the original as we'll get but I just have zero desire to come back to either that or OSRS. Even a perfect, fully functional 04-06 server means hundreds of hours of grind all over again and I bet plenty of people would join that kind of server, play for a month and quit.
3fd5ac No.16277042
>>16276877
More like why is it the other way around in modern Runescape, when it's normal for processed items to be worth more than raw goods in any economy.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ever came to light that cooked food being less expensive than raw food helps contribute to the exclusive focus on PvM and raiding content at the expense of everything else. As PvM requires the lowest amount of startup capital by far and has very low upkeep costs which would all be the partial result of undervalued cooked food items.
2f7f92 No.16277194
>>16160321
>GE.
>Not the “Print Money” spell.
The Runescape economy became permanent shenanigans at the moment High Alchemy became profitable.
ae14ec No.16277382
>>16267239
They aren't building a world anymore. Everything has to be big, everything has to be EPIC. Of course it doesn't fit together, everything is designed as one grand set piece to be the next WoWkiller or whatever gets their investors moist. I could ramble on for hours about the removal of highs and lows into endless visual noise or soulless assembly line design, but it's true of the whole game industry, and industrialized media as a whole. It has been for some time. You can blame it on a team size too big for everyone to understand the world or the bigger corporate structure of the new Jagex, but either way it all comes down to blasting the player with as much shiny garbage as possible in the hopes that it opens up their wallet.
c68798 No.16277513
>>16277194
Alchemy should be limited to low to mid-tier metal items and never give less gold than selling to shops
b6d6d7 No.16278592
ten years ago, when some idiot in my dorm was playing everquest, i told him runescape would last longer
e19233 No.16279391
>>16273492
I agree with you on a lot of points but it feels hard to give up those world event areas.
Considering that players voted to not remove Tuska's corpse from the map, I doubt it would be a popular move. They could make them more appropriate to the world, though.
Put some more animals in lumbridge crater. A handful of rabbits is not enough to make me think that the area is entirely natural. Some growing trees. King worm & frog spawns.
Yeah, Falador and Port sarim are too cramped. Considering that the player-owned ports area is supposed to be in Port sarim, the only thing keeping it from being put there is how cramped the world map is.
Remove glowy magic from Armadyl's tower (it isn't needed anymore) and turn it into a normal looking tower. Move the Air Altar to the top of the tower, because it makes more sense than on the ground.
Also it would make the most sense to put the Grand Exchange into Ardougne Market.
186441 No.16280069
>>16279391
>Also it would make the most sense to put the Grand Exchange into Ardougne Market.
You're forgetting non-members exist and wouldn't have a grand exchange if that happened.
186441 No.16280075
The fact of the matter is the map isn't going to see a rework on these scales because it's too much effort.
Jagex have got their hands full patching up all the shoddy holes still left behind from eoc.
b8f104 No.16280303
>>16160075
>it allots you the ability to use higher level foods
Just buy those on GE with money made from tanning.
c29fd1 No.16280503
>>16277042
I thought raw items were always more expensive because of muh leveling.
a5330f No.16280711
>>16279391
I don't mind the event areas and god towers and whatever in theory, but the problem I have is that they're kind of just half assedly slapped where ever there was empty space, and the 2 most memorable early game natural forests are essentially removed for their sake.
Armadyl tower could be placed in some kind of island or mountain or penisula, perhaps in the process of redesigning Port Sarim. Bandos crater or whatever can be around where it is, but only if you also redesign the entire west side of the ice mountain up to goblin village so it's a more rocky area.
I don't like the lumbridge crater at all, it's something you'd expect to see in Tirannwn, not squashed in between halloween town and farms and a swamp and a fucking jail, the location is just completely wrong. The goblin road was perfect fit for that location as far as I'm concerned. The crater would probably work in the large empty forest east or south east of Varrock though, there isn't really anything interesting or memorable in there, plus along with the proposed new mage training area you could make the forest look slightly more magical. A second proposition is to redesign the transition area between the farms and the desert, and put the crater there.
Maybe all that messes up some epic lore, but as far as I'm concerned that's much less important than the feel of the game world itself. If you want to do some event then you should do it in a suitable location and make sure the aftermath won't leave a hideous mark for the rest of time.
>Move the Air Altar to the top of the tower, because it makes more sense than on the ground
Sounds good as a concept, but in game it would probably end up quite far from a bank, and it would be annoying to go up/down the "floors" over and over. It also doesn't make sense for an ancient altar to be on top of a constructed tower, but if it was a floating island it would be neat. I'm also concerned of the prospect of the first runecrafting altar being in such a special and obscure location, while the others are just in some random forests that you can run into by accident.
e19233 No.16282953
>>16280711
The transition between Lumbridge and Al-Kharid always felt too abrupt to me. Shouldn't it gradually get drier and drier as you move east?
e19233 No.16282966
>>16282953
This is not okay.
186441 No.16282967
>>16282953
There's a swamp directly to the east of al karid, not sure irl logic was what the gowers had in mind when making the map?
e19233 No.16282980
>>16282967
Crandor was Green in Runescape Classic.
The Wilderness was Brown in Runescape Classic.
Zanaris was Gray in Runescape Classic.
ba6c29 No.16283011
>>16282980
to be fair, Zanaris was meant to be an underground kingdom in RSC and not the otherworldly realm between realms that it was in RS2 (or the dumbass moon retcon in RS3). That's why the exit in the market leads to Al-Kharid, it geographically matches where the location would be underground
a5330f No.16283081
>>16282953
>>16282966
>>16282967
The whole desert is kind of in the wrong place, there's a wet biome on both sides. There's a lot of places in the map that look bad simply because of shortsightedly added new content, like how everything is rectangular due to being added to the edge of the previous map boundary.
How would you fix the desert though? Moving the entire Morytania sounds a bit excessive, aside that the only thing I can think of is putting the F2P swamp east of Lumbridge instead of south, and starting desert below Lumbridge/Draynor instead. But then the desert becomes a corner that nobody cares about since it's no longer along the path to other places. If you moved port sarim then the desert could surround the wizard's tower area and connect to the other side as well, that might be interesting.
ba6c29 No.16283192
>>16282953
>>16282966
>>16282967
>>16283081
I looked up the original DeviousMUD map to see if the desert originally made more sense and was moved around during development but judging from the pic it was always meant to border Lumby
e19233 No.16294274
>>16283192
Lol when they made that map all areas were on the same level, Andrew was just going to have caves on the surface
e19233 No.16297543
The idea of replacing RS3 wildy mechanics with 2x Death's office fee sounds good to me.
39de4c No.16301961
>>16297543
Pic related is so true and why osrs pking is fucking cancer, everyone holds a gmaul and combo specs after their initial spec, iirc u couldnt do that before but after they “nerfed” gmaul its just AGS spec into gmaul etc etc
39de4c No.16301976
fba1e0 No.16302486
>>16301961
They should really nerf it as an integrity change
adbb7f No.16302769
>>16162328
Now I imagine you as a hot slim milf with a thief mask jewing a rapper nigger wearing a cap. I wanna marry you. Your greentext is fucking gold.
8648f8 No.16304389
>tfw just completed recipe for disaster for the first time ever
This game has such fun quests that actually feel like adventures. I cant imagine doing some of these without guides.
100918 No.16304529
mod raven (rs3) is a subhuman nigger that has near single-handedly ruined everything in runescape, lorewise
>makes armadyl canon gay
>makes a tranny elf npc, in a game where you can pay peanuts for a full 100 percent gender change
>in the so called player owned farm, you can have two animals of the same sex "adopt a baby" instead of just breeding a male and a female the regular way the significantly lower breeding chance and lack of failure mitigation does not defend this
>puts an ingame prefix in the game that takes 169 (one hundred and sixty nine) days to get
>your only reward for this is a few lol xd so randumb dialogue options with quest npcs and a raven in the afterlife world that speaks swedish (homo-pushing bald fat faggot has a hardon for swedish. who would have thought)
>makes the player convince a seagull whose wife fucks another seagull to accept her apology
and thats just ravens stupidity. lets look at the playerbase
>poll in 2014 to decide the name of a new mob
>choices are gold, alchemical or celestial dragon
>the rs3 playerbase is infested with horsefuckers
>of course the celestial fucking dragon wins the poll
round 2
>ebay auction held by jagex, highest bidder gets to name a boss
>some absolute faggot throws 780 GBP in
>some OTHER faggot pays more than that (exact amount unknown)
>redditor faggot, not wanting to disappoint, names it Bossy McBossface
>but wait, theres more
>devs make it drop a weapon skin named Swordy McSwordface
surely you could just ignore all of this and just kill some monsters and bosses, right?
oh wait
>continuous 4 tick auto attack
>autistic way of damaging monsters by continously switching weapons and manually inputting autoattacks in between abilities
>extreme increase in dps
>this results in magic having substantially more dps than the other two combat styles
>devs want to fix this
>autistic redditors threaten to throw a collective tantrum if they fix it
>devs realize they cant even fully fix it anyway
>devs just make it so you cant do it continuously
>magic is still more useful than the other two styles ever will be
nevermind the fact that every input in rs3 takes 0.6 seconds to register, due to the almost 20 year old game engine. devs refuse to fix it because "it would mean rewriting the entire game", which apparently is too much for the imported bangalore pajeet "programmers" to do
tl;dr fuck rs3
osrs isnt much better
279087 No.16304716
>>16304529
> takes 0.6 seconds to register
why did they make it that way anyway?
a5330f No.16304789
>>16304529
Runescape needs a reboot that doesn't carry any of the baggage of RS3 nor old school Runescape nor the current developers. I wish there was a private server that developed the game into a new direction.
>>16304716
Doing it that way is much easier both in terms of development and in terms of network traffic, you don't need to track movement/aiming nor adjust for differences between what the player sees and what the server sees. Gotta remember that Runescape was started by 2 guys from their mom's house.
e6cea1 No.16305635
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>>16304789
>I wish there was a private server that developed the game into a new direction.
Darkscape was fun for a while, too bad is was unpolished and never got the backing it so well deserved. The game would have been perfect if the combat was balanced better.
c68798 No.16307112
>>16304789
>Doing it that way is much easier both in terms of development and in terms of network traffic, you don't need to track movement/aiming nor adjust for differences between what the player sees and what the server sees.
I'm fairly new into game dev, moreso when it comes to networking but isn't doing it the other way basically updating and rendering certain things client side and then checking with the server to see if the action was legal else revert?
a5330f No.16307476
>>16307112
Basically yes, but it can get complicated in certain situations. The server should ideally be a little bit flexible and try to determine whether your given action is within a range of possibility, otherwise you'll get a lot more rubberbanding. For example if you spam your movement keys and use abilities and stuff and maybe there's even a lag spike mixed in, the server needs to be able to figure out if the location you claim to be in is possible and if you weren't in the middle of some animation during each given action. And that's not yet accounting how players see other players because that adds another layer of disconnection.
In any case the way Runescape does it is just significantly simpler, the client just requests the action from the server and then applies it when/if successful, the server has absolute rule in regards to what happens and what players see. It also has an advantage in that everything is in sync and things happen in the same order for everyone.
698205 No.16308874
>>16180986
Why do faggots like you even use 8/v/? Like what's the point? Do you think you're going to convince people that degeneracy and pozz in video games is a good thing? That it shouldn't be avoided and derided like the plague?
5e4ecc No.16308950
>>16180986
>butthurt about a rainbow colored scarf
I can't wait to dump you fags out of a helicopter. See how butthurt you are about a bit of water.
2296cd No.16309018
>>16301961
>We need to make updates that cater exclusively to the already established professional pking community
>Why aren't more people PKing I don't get it
>perhaps we need more PKer exclusive poll questions
>No we're not gonna nerf Gmaul lol
>>16308874
A lot of normalfags and actual discord trannies loves OSRS and their mental illness eventually leads them here, that's your answer
4d2df4 No.16309059
>>16309018
>professional pking community
lolwat
>Try to hop on the esport train with deadman mode
>Fuck up EVERY SINGLE TIME
They just fucked up again, everyone in deadman mode just got oneshot. This is what happens with diversity hires.
5e4ecc No.16309073
>>16309059
I love watching deadman mode shit. They just fuck up every single time in a spectacular way. This time, clans completely own a multicombat choke point. Anyone walks in and they get fucked destroyed. The quest is required for completing later quests and for access to the best combat prayer in the game. So only members of this clan have access to it.The clan also loads up their favorites with max PVP gear, and kill everyone else in the qualifier. They basically own the tournament. Just look at pic related.
Fagex's response? Banning a solo streamer for running two accounts at once. He could have just accepted donations and instantly got max gear, but decided he'd have one account sit at the GE and skill while his other trained.
4d2df4 No.16309101
>>16309073
No worries, they just got gassed and instakilled. Jagex even managed to fuck up so hard they can't do a rollback. I'm sure that streamer is happy he didn't invest any time in this
5e4ecc No.16309115
>>16309101
> I'm sure that streamer is happy he didn't invest any time in this
He no lifed for like 3 straight days. That's like 48 hours.
Here's a non-comprehensive list of fagex fuckups for anyone interested.
>added coin pouches to thieving
>accidentally made it so dropped stacks give max cash stacks
>roll back
>slightly buff the farming guild
>game designer accidentally drops the most expensive item on the game, worth billions, on the ground
>respawns every 30 seconds
>in every world
>jagex refuses to rollback and responds by placing a fucking BUSH around the TB so people can't access it
>except people are also stuck inside the TB and can pick up full inventories
>economy destoryed
>they finally change their mind and rollback half a day
>the rollback deletes shitloads of items from players
>jagex does nothing
I don't know where else to start with their constant fuckery. They are by far the worst company I've ever seen. They have no customer support, and their female employees just respond to popular reddit threads. Here's another one
>players complain about losing their items
>bank disappears
>security questions given out
>credit card information stolen
>Jmod "smackdown" disproves them
>month later, their fire a moderator for stealing items from players and coverting it up
>refund some of the players
here's another
>jagex fucks up the DMM tourney by leaving an exploit in
>technically two winners
>they payout to one of them
>one of their programmers willingly pays the $10k prize pool for the other one
I have more stories about their fuckups if anyone cares.
2296cd No.16309129
>>16309115
OSRS has at most 5 years remaining before it turns into what RS3 currently is.
>I have more stories about their fuckups if anyone cares.
Just look at every single skilling, slayer and zeah update that's been added. The amount of shitty ideas come to fruition is off the chart. But I wouldn't mind reading some other spicy fuck up stories if you have them.
b19fa3 No.16309152
>>16309115
wew. I thought their worst fuckup yet had been that gay pride bullshit they tried to shove down everyone's throats.
5e4ecc No.16309167
>>16309129
The password system has been defunct since the day it came out. Special characters are disallowed, and the passwords aren't actually case sensitive. You can log in using either one.
c68798 No.16309240
>>16309129
I remember thinking back in the day how slayer was such a missed opportinuty but regardless I still loved the skill, at least I did back in 07. How did they fuck up slayer in os?
05b677 No.16309287
>>16309240
It's too OP and basically the number one money making method and completely devalues any sort of skilling because high level slayer tasks and slayer bosses drop tons of resources
100918 No.16309312
>>16309129
>spicy fuckup stories
you got it chief. these are rs3 stories though
>Mod Pi, responsible for designing most, if not all of the EoC combat system, develops Bounty Hunter for RS3
>no real problem with how it worked
>decent rewards (upgrade sets for armor sets that actually make them relevant, okay weapons. rune pouches (that function exactly as the osrs equivalent) etc)
>releases in 2016
>devs fail to realize that nobody pvps in rs3 anymore, 99 percent of it was killed after the release of eoc
>absolutely nobody plays the game
>players just farm emblem tiers for points for rewards off of eachother
>devs make it so the chance of an emblem upgrade on a kill is significantly lowered
>players just make bots that farm the rewards instead
>supply of bounty hunter rewards is massively inflated as a result
>this shit continues until march 2019 when they finally shut bounty hunter down and redistribute the rewards across shitty pvm content
>months prior to this, redditors write long bawposts about getting skulltricked for money/other expensive shit in the wilderness
>they are so pathetic that they start collective upvote-fueled efforts to literally remove pvp in the wilderness
only time can tell where that will lead
fuckup number 2:
>elven clan cape dupe bug
>worked exactly like the crucible dupe
>though not as destructive as the crucible dupe, it was still bad
>dupe 28 elven clan capes worth 1m each
>die in the wilderness to an alt
>wow 28m
>repeat
fuckup number 3:
>rs3 looks at deadman mode and sees the viewercount that it pulls
>not wanting to be outdone, they create their own event
>Dimension of the Damned
>create your own weapons, armor and food and survive against a zombie horde while "the miasma" gets closer and closer to a chokepoint
>barely anyone gives a shit
>a handful of players participate because why the fuck not
>finals get delayed by a week
>when it starts, the game is already put in an "endgame state"
>miasma in a place where it wasnt supposed to be
>tons of players immediately die
>devs admit their screwup
>as a consolation, devs give the top 1000 players an in game pet that was only supposed to go to the top 50
ba6c29 No.16309383
>>16304529
>>redditor faggot, not wanting to disappoint, names it Bossy McBossface
I thought you were joking but it's actually fucking real, not only that but it's a reskin of an existing boss model as well
c68798 No.16309396
>>16309383
what the FUCK is THAT?
ba6c29 No.16309406
>>16309396
it's supposed to be the re-design for this guy, you fight him in Holy Grail
c68798 No.16309438
>>16309406
Is that what they turned the black knight titan into? Fuck that's depressing. All the quirkyness and charm ripped out like a 3rd world abortion.
100918 No.16309496
>>16309438
you can swap between the old model and the new model
e19233 No.16309509
>>16309438
You can toggle between the two models
c68798 No.16309543
>>16309438
Like from a prompt during the quest? They're not even pretending the game has any immersion anymore are they? It's like 'Hey we removed what made our game unique to appease our slant-eyed overlords but you can toggle midgame so don't unsub just yet'.
>>16309509
nice orc you got there
ba6c29 No.16309577
>>16309543
>we could've had those lizardmen
>instead we got pic related
at least the mammoths kept their old models
0161f3 No.16310000
Another fuckup:
>jagex accidentally give people def exp, ruining 1 def pures
>promises to give it back
>only advertises it on twitter, not ingame or officially, so many players miss out on it
>they reset some defense levels
>fucks up reset the def level of the wrong accounts
>later fix it
>accidentally give someone 70 million exp instead of 7 million
>shoots up to the top of the leaderboards
>they fix that too
My favorite fuckup
>guy dies to a glitch in RS3
>manually give him his items back
>instead of giving him a one (1) archer ring, they give him several million archer rings instead
>he dumps them all on the market
>best ring in the game is suddenly dirt cheap
>5 years pass
>archer ring still hasn't slightly recovered
>jagex made a new policy of not returning items because of their fuckup
There's a similar fuckup where they massively buffed a useless item for no particular reason, and one of their devs happened to have tons of them stockpiled. Not nearly as bad as that other mod that stole billions of GP from users and probably leaked credit card info, but still bad.
0161f3 No.16310009
Their latest and possibly most egregious fuckup so far
>host a tournament with a $20,000 prize pool
>make autists play 16 hours a day for a week
>1v1 tournaments start
>accidentally release toxic gas into the arena
>literally gas all their players to death (pic related)
>lowers everyone's stats and destroys all the gear they've accumulated over the week
>half the players can't log back in anymore
>announce on an unverified twitter account that players have 5 minutes to log back in
>finish the tournament without half the players
>boost people's stats to 94, gives everyone the same default gear
>one guys teleports back to lumbridge out of the tournament
>a mod tracks him down and gasses him too
>he's disqualified
ba6c29 No.16310138
>>16310009
they also had to delay the "final hour" multiple times to the point where it lasted four hours total, and the guy who won the final ended up winning through a glitch that restored his health and prayer back to full before the fight ended
477613 No.16310749
>>16310009
Wtf? How, why, what?
5d2919 No.16310776
>>16310009
>a mod tracks him down and gasses him too
For what purpose? Was that gear only meant for use in the tournament, or did the mod have autism and wanted to make sure the job was finished with a full set of dead players?
100918 No.16310924
>>16310000 (checked)
>the archer ring dupe
fuck, how could I forget about that?
something similar happened to the mages book.
>supplies of mages book somehow explodes in quantity
>price drops from 500k to 30k
>devs claim that its not caused by a glitch or a dupe
>manually removes mages books from players that bought mages books in bulk
5540d4 No.16311172
>>16309129
The biggest fuckup you'll ever need is the amazing launch day of dungeoneering.
I will never see a game glitch out so badly as much as that day.
5540d4 No.16311185
>>16310000
>There's a similar fuckup where they massively buffed a useless item for no particular reason, and one of their devs happened to have tons of them stockpiled
Oh yeah, the rock gloves or something? I remember that shitstorm
100918 No.16311412
>>16311185
the rock climbing boots that shot from 500gp to 76k each
i dont know anything about a dev having a stockpile of them but i wouldnt doubt it for a second
5540d4 No.16311529
>>16311412
I'm fairly sure the devs, or a friend of theirs had a stockpile of at least 1k boots.
ba6c29 No.16311871
>>16310776
The gear itself was nothing special, but because the guy left the main tournament area he had to be taken out as that was against the rules
477613 No.16312479
>>16311871
>Don't want to get gassed by Mod Hitler
>Flee to Palebridge
>Get gassed anyway
e19233 No.16312498
>>16311412
Mod Jack said he wasn't sure why Jagex had been silent about this controversy.
111ca1 No.16312830
>>16178119
>go back to playing Spyro the Dragon for the 100th time
Brenton is that you
e19233 No.16313737
Human Trafficking confirmed
e19233 No.16314567
>meanwhile in real Runescape
100918 No.16319714
>>16309312
addendum to number 2: the bug was introduced with the release of prifddinas in late 2014 and the bug remained in the game for a couple of months or so. for a fucking DUPE BUG to remain in a MMORPG for "a couple of months" is absolutely fucking horrendous
>>16309115
>They have no customer support,
their "customer support" works as such that you post your issue on plebbit, and depending on whether it gets upboated or not, you may or may not get help with your issue.
Tweeting your issue to a mod may work, assuming you have sucked his dick first. Don't bother if you're tweeting a female jmod, theyre not going to care about you since there are too many beta orbiters trying to get to their pussy by telling them how brave and amazing they are.
forget about using the actual ticket submission system, if you by some miracle actually find it in the first place; your ticket with either be dismissed by the most retarded bot, read by a quality assurance monkey that most likely does not know english, or just be completely ignored.
ba6c29 No.16324458
>add a Mimic boss
>give 2-3 warnings before the player can fight it
>make it instanced