9ed6eb No.15918590
It saddens me that when people talk about classic point-and-click adventure games, nobody ever mentions Torin's Passage.
6f73b3 No.15918610
I'll talk about your passage, anon-kun. ;)
9432d0 No.15918619
68692c No.15918622
>>15918590
people don't really talk about point-and-click games in general
322786 No.15918715
>>15918590
>classic point-and-click adventure games
d96d4b No.15920213
Wasn't Torin's Passage kind of shit, though? Nobody ever talks about Legend of Kyrandia - and hell, I didn't even know the series existed until years after adventure games died. Those were pretty good.
4651a1 No.15920240
>>15920213
I liked the second game more than the first.
5c0b1d No.15920260
>>15918622
Is that a Roger Rabbit knockoff?
9af575 No.15921722
>>15920260
>Is that a roger rabbit knockoff.
You Troglodyte, get out.
c4b8bd No.15925255
anyone try unavowed? it's apparently really good
4fdcb3 No.15925309
I bought Armikrog recently since it was only like $2 and it is way better than I thought it would be. Gorgeous looking clay world, good sense of humor, unique music and no moon logic puzzles. I'm confused as to why it has a mixed rating on Steam because I'm having alot of fun with it.
>>15918622
WHIP MY CREAM!
Toonstruck 2 fucking when?
>>15925255
It's by the same people who made Gemini Rue so there's a high chance of it being pretty good (though I haven't played any of their other games, maybe GR was a fluke)
e52856 No.15925334
Can't let that thread pass by without mentioning Discworld. My all time favorite.
349689 No.15925349
>>15925255
It's really funny how AGS games are so readable.
Polite sage.
c4b8bd No.15925392
>>15925349
what do you mean readable?
>>15925309
I really liked the blackwell series, so I have my hopes up for this one. GR was alright, but not the best from the guy if you ask me
4fdcb3 No.15929908
Here's my collection so far. Am I missing any good ones?
c4a29c No.15930000
>>15918590
Which King's Quest is the best and why is it 6?
>>15918622
I want to milk that cow.
344fba No.15930053
>>15918590
Never heard of it, might add it to my backlog.
>>15920213
Played the first two games, and honestly they were kinda of average, I don't know why they are so well remembered, but maybe it has something to do with the date they were released and how many P&C games existed up until that point.
I might as well mention my favorite series and that is Quest for Glory 1-4(5 is shit), it's a hybrid between and RPG and a Point and Click, you pick your class, your stats, you have to train them, kinda like in Elder Scrolls, every day you do to the in to eat and sleep(there is a day and night cycle), and depending on your class and stats you can solve puzzles in different ways, so for instance there is a shinning object in a bird's next, you can climb the tree and get the object(thief), you can throw a rock and knock the nest down(fighter) or you can cast telekinesis and bring the nest to you(wizard). The interface is the classic Sierra one(with the talk, see, touch, and so on). They also have a combat system and two's is actually quite good and has some depth to it, and the best part is that your stats and spells carry over, so if in the first game your max strength is 100, by the fifth one you would have 500 strength.
My favorite games in the series are 2(remake) and 4, but you should definitely play them in order, there is a remake for the first one, and a fan one for the second one.
>>15929908
Your missed QfG and >>15930000 (checked)
2b41f1 No.15930330
>>15930053
>5 is shit
Those are fighting words. I'll grant how it looked like shit and aged like, well, shit
344fba No.15930481
>>15930330
I will admit that I liked the fact that they not only continued the story but also gave closure to some of them such as the hippy and his tree gf from 2, and you can marry the girls you had met in the previous games, but that's about it, the interface was shit, the voice acting didn't hold a candle to IV's superb acting, the setting just didn't work. I understand that some of the greatest and strongest heroes are from ancient greece and this was the final power creep, but going from germany to arabia to africa to romania and then to greece, just doesn't work, plus starting the story with a tournament arc was even worse. I couldn't finish it and probably never will.
2b41f1 No.15930540
>>15930481
You never wore the jeweled crown of Silmaria upon a troubled brow? You never gave it up and rode off with Rakeesh into the Sunset because that's what real paladins do? Didn't finally get even with Bruno, solved the falcon meme and became the capo di tutti frutti and the guildmaster superior with Elsa or that harem QFG2 princess slut by your side? You didn't reform Katrina with tactically applied headpats or plowed Erana's garden? That's rather sad.
And it's not Greece - it's Atlantis.
c6dba7 No.15930565
>>15930000 (CHECKED)
>King's Quest VI is the best King's Quest
MY FUCKING NIGGER
d96d4b No.15931074
>>15930000
>Which King's Quest is the best and why is it 6?
>and why is it 6?
Because Roberta Williams is a hack who was only popular because she had the most advertising because she was fucking the owner. King's Quest 6 is the game which had Jane Jensen working on it.
I did like KQIV though
78caae No.15932508
>>15930053
My nibba. First RPG (kind of) that I've ever played and most of the jokes flew over my 10 year old head (replaying 4 now is a fucking riot). You forgot to mention that you solve puzzles specific to you class but you always need a to do a fuckton of lateral thinking to beat the big bosses. It's never about stat grinding but outsmarting beings that are always leagues above you in terms of skill.
Love the games to death, especially because of how charming they are - no hidden agenda, no politial posturing, no fucking "trope" box to fill.
Just a set of classical fairy tales, a likeable protagonist, decisions that carry more weight than all of Mass Effect 3, a plethora of delicious waifus (still waiting for the mod to marry Gnome Ann) with 4 marriable ones (Katrina best gril) and a script that simply cannot be replicated today (seriously, go play 4 and tell me if there's any fucking writer our there that can pull off the tavern dialogue).
I would kill for a remake of QFG 5 with VGA and hand drawn graphics instead of what we got.
Finally, there's a number of games inspired by the Coles:
Heronie's quest
http://crystalshard.net/?g=16
Literally Quest for Glory 6 - no other way around it. Play it and love it. It's even free for fuck's sake.
Quest for Infamy
http://www.infamous-quests.com/home/games/quest-for-infamy/
A hit and miss, you can see way too many elements of modern game design in it and it tries to be edgy for the sake of it. Great musk though.
Hero-U - rogue to redemption
http://hero-u.com/
Made by the Coles as their comeback title. Fully crowdfunded and it shows. The combat is hit or miss, the dialogue's ok but - for a game made in fucking 2018 - it's surprisingly light hearted (you can chose to be an asshole) but there's no pretension of this story about to blow your mind now a hint of deep plots. Just train your skills, go on adventures and get the girl.
Mage's initiation - reign of the elements
(never ever)
c4b8bd No.15932626
pic related is severely underrated.
just don't play the dos version, or your eyes will bleed out
2b41f1 No.15934044
>>15932508
>nibba
You trying to be cute or something? Nigger, don't type like you're emulating a whore too dumb to take that dick out of her mouth before she speaks.
>Quest for Infamy
Garbage. What's more you should be ashamed for talking about it in polite society. Empty zones, garbage combat, even more empty zones. Moonlogic puzzles up the ass, too.
>Hero-U
And here's where you really pissed me off. The game's fucking ape of Harry Potter, years in the making, with just enough current day SJW shit piled on to maybe sucker some tumblerites to buy it. Boring, lazy, let's make you walk the same corridor and do the same over and over to pad the lack of content design. And what's up with these crowdfunding cunts and empty zones?
>Great musk
>>>/furry/
0e10d8 No.15934092
>when the peak of the genre was a bunch of edutainment kids' games
b87b86 No.15934100
>>15932508
>nibba
The word you're looking for is 'nigger', nigger.
4183d2 No.15934159
>>15925255
Isn't it written by hamburger helper?
86bcca No.15934170
>>15918590
Oh sweet I never thought I'd see the day when I could talk about these games. If anyone here is looking for a GREAT point and click to play the curse of monkey island is fucking fantastic. Great music, fantastic hand drawn art, great voice acting and A+ jokes and writing. Seriously, everyone in this thread even mildly interested should play this game
86bcca No.15934186
>>15931074
The only reason Roberta was big because she was basically the only woman making PC games in the 1980s. The PC gaming market was almost entirely male back then. If you look at some of the 90s game she worked on they were fucking awful. Phantasmagoria full of FMV bullshit and Roberta living out her fantasies of making out with attractive men by stuffing her games full of shirtless dudes in love
86bcca No.15934208
>>15934200
How and why do you think me talking about how I love a game is bait? Is it that rare to see a person say they love a game on /v/ that you think I'm trolling?
f47eff No.15934213
>>15934208
perhaps because Curse of Monkey Island just didn't quite live up to the promises of the planned Monkey Island III: The Secret Revealed or Your Money Back
86bcca No.15934216
>>15934213
Yeah it was the first monkey island made without Ron Gilbert so it was never going to fit in the timeline perfectly but the jokes and gameplay make up for it easily. People play monkey island for the jokes not the lore
344fba No.15934222
>>15934208
>How and why do you think me talking about how I love a game is bait?
Because of some of your comments from your previous post
>Oh sweet I never thought I'd see the day when I could talk about these games.
We had plenty of threads about P&C adventure games, so either you are a newfag or a troll
Then talking about Monkey Island as if it's some obscure game, that nobody has heard of. Maybe this isn't what you wanted to convey, but it's how it felt to me.
2b41f1 No.15934233
>>15934222
You shouldn't be that quick to judge him to be baiting. Maybe he's underage? Retarded or possible brain damaged? A woman, even?
86bcca No.15934247
>>15934222
>Then talking about Monkey Island as if it's some obscure game, that nobody has heard of.
I never said that. I recently have been replaying it so I brought it up in this thread to anyone who hadn't played it. Monkey island is one of the most well known adventure game series and I just gave my thoughts on the game. It's amazing I have to explain this
252187 No.15934248
>>15934233
pic looks cool. which gaem?
d96d4b No.15934310
>>15934186
Maybe elsewhere in the industry, but Sierra was staffed full of women. Lori Cole, Jane Jensen, Christy Marx being headliners aside from Roberta - but their general staff, programmers, artists, QA, etc also quite a lot of women employed. And it's not because they were overtly progressive for the time, but it was a necessity. Oakhurst was a small town compared to where most tech companies HQ'd, so they didn't have a huge talent pool to select from and being out in the boonies didn't exactly draw the best talent. So their employees tended to take their work home with them, taught their spouses how to code or create art assets, etc - and brought them on to work. At the time, I think they were the largest or second largest employer in the town. It was a family centric company and close knit community.
1d0aad No.15934436
>>15934092
HP games really were the fucking bomb man
Putt Putt Travels Through Time will always be what I think of when someone dares utter "point and click" in my vicinity.
967381 No.15934568
For the sake of interest, has anyone here ever heard of Tony Tough? Not sure they actually marketed it outside of the EU.
Also, honorably mentions to Edna & Harvey: The Breakout
4651a1 No.15934687
>>15934568
Deadalic in oldschool good. Although I heard they did a couple of preachy ones.
967381 No.15934741
>>15934687
Closest thing about a preachy as far as Daedalic goes is A New Beginning, which basically is a dystopia where Earth is fucked due to man-made ecological disasters (including a second Chernobyl in the Amazon Rainforest, because why not build a NPP inside a fucking rain forest).
4fdcb3 No.15938319
>>15934247
>I never said that
The way you worded your post did come across that way, I thought you were trolling. Monkey Island is essentially THE Adventure game series so anyone who is into the genre has already played it and anyone who is just getting in to the genre would be aware of it immediately. It's like going into a Classic FPS thread and recommending DOOM.
c4b8bd No.15942250
>>15934159
I don't think so. where'd you hear that?
4183d2 No.15943035
>>15942250
https://www.please use archive.is/wadjet-eyes-next-game-is-a-supernatural-adventure-called-unavowed/
https://www.please use archive.is/unavoweds-first-teaser-sheds-light-on-a-supernatural-adventure-from-wadjet-eye/
4183d2 No.15943042
d96d4b No.15943242
So… legit question. Why aren't there more VNs that incorporate P&C Adventure mechanics? The two genres seem like they would be a perfect fit for some cross pollination. I'm not saying go full retard designer logic like putting scotch tape on a hole in a fence, use cucumber on cat, collect cathair from tape, use cathair to make fake mustache to fool anime girl into thinking you're someone else so she'll have sex with you. I'm not advocating the mechanics really get in the way of people's waifu fapping. VNs aren't games, and nobody benefits from pretending they are. I just think it could add a bit of context and could be another avenue by which to unlock scenarios/endings.
But now that I think about it… an anime Leisure Suit Larry type game with uncensored h-scenes could be decent as well if you just went the full adventure game route.
4183d2 No.15943272
>>15943242
Stuff like Phoenix Wright and Snatcher are pretty much point and click adventures but with menus instead of pointing and clicking.
64c187 No.15943291
>>15929908
Have you played Obduction or Quern? They're good
d96d4b No.15943310
>>15943272
Yeah, but they don't have tiddies.
156e0b No.15943590
>>15943242
There are a few.
837667 No.15943802
>>15943242
Because slideshow-tier VNs are easier to design and cheap to produce. A point-and-click VN would imply more CG background arts for example, and a proper script to allow more interactivity and travel freedom (instead of being on a rail with eventually a bunch of levers that send you to different routes)
I also suspect game development costs have also inflated in Japan, more or less in the same fashion it was in the West, and the otaku are just content with mediocrity thus discouraging that kind of ambitious project
d96d4b No.15943860
>>15943802
>Because slideshow-tier VNs are easier to design and cheap to produce. A point-and-click VN would imply more CG background arts for example, and a proper script to allow more interactivity and travel freedom (instead of being on a rail with eventually a bunch of levers that send you to different routes)
Yeah, but because they are so cheap to produce - the market is absolutely flooded with them. You'd think just putting in a LITTLE bit more effort would be worth it to make your game a bit more visible and unique in the market.
>and the otaku are just content with mediocrity
I think this is the strongest factor. You can feed an otaku shit all day long, and they'll eat it up… but if you imply their waifu is impure - they will rise up and burn your fucking house down.
837667 No.15943965
>>15943860
>You'd think just putting in a LITTLE bit more effort would be worth it to make your game a bit more visible and unique in the market.
There are some modern VNs that introduce actual gameplay parts like Utawarerumono, Net High, Eiyuu Senki, Evenicle, etc but yeah they're quite rare.
If possible, you should try Death Mark. Its a recent example (and first one in a while) of a point-and-click VN as you actually get to interact with the environments searching for clues. There is also its spiritual sequel "NG" which is Vita/moonrunes-only for now. Both were developed by Experience which is a dev group quite known for dungeon crawling games.
d3db26 No.15943982
>>15932508
>Made by the Coles from GamerGhazi who where openly anti Gamer Gate promote Bestiality and support Anita Sarkeesian
trash
156e0b No.15944170
>>15943965
>If possible, you should try Death Mark
Why are you recommending censored games?
e5fb55 No.15945082
>>15932508
>>15934044
>Hero-U
I got as far as the catacombs and my interest just vanished overnight. Anything interesting happen afterwards, or am I close enough to the end to force myself through it?
4ad52e No.15945712
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>>15930000
I haven't played that game in a long time. The only thing I remember about it are the gnomes and their goofy dialogue.
4122a6 No.15945826
Cognition is one of the few to add something to the genre in the last few years. It adds the possibility to see the past from items. Another, older, is Discworld Noir which allowed you to check/track smells while being a werewolf.
0e10d8 No.15945905
>>15943242
Zero Escape series and Danganronpa series
the thing is that once you add gameplay they aren't really vns anymore, they become adventure games, sometimes specifically mystery games
4fdcb3 No.15950593
Are there any good Japanese P&C Adventure games? I'd really like to see a Japanese take on the genre.
156e0b No.15950647
4fdcb3 No.15954557
>>15943590
>Policenauts has a translation patch and supports the Playstation Mouse
Trying to play P&C Adventure games with a controller is awkward and clumsy as fuck, not to mention slow as hell.
c4b8bd No.15959184
>>15943035
>>15943042
>former Dragon Age writer Jennifer Hepler is the story co-designer
oh man, I had no idea. the writing in wadjet eye games is usually pretty good. why the hell did they give her a job?
249ca0 No.15959202
>>15934213
It's the best game in the series though.
94cf97 No.15959215
>>15959204
fuck vegeta
real badass coming through
a40f79 No.15959410
>>15950593
Professor Layton?
2d9a4e No.15965050
>>15918590
You just started a thread about it and didn't even bother talking about it. Good job anon.
4fdcb3 No.15967936
>>15943242
Has anyone played Kara no Shojo? Is there some actual detective work needed or is it just fluff to make it stand out and look like it has gameplay aside from choices?
2cae4f No.15968005
>>15925255
Looks like SJW shit. Just look at that hideous stronk womyn who don't need no man.
0ef3b2 No.15968152
>>15945826
Broken Sword is awesome and was really a high point in the genre. Discworld Noir was neat but was so fucking buggy and weird that it reminded me of Blade Runner in that the world and design was clearly top-tier but the amount of fucky shit that could happen was all over the place leading to lots of accidental what the fuck moments
131799 No.15968278
>>15967936
Unlike Ace Attorney, you can fail the investigations and miss some critical clue. Only that you'll realize it hours later and now you're locked into a bad ending. It's mainly a VN though.
0e10d8 No.15968418
>>15954557
you need it for policenauts especially because it's a hybrid adventure and light gun game, the shoot out scenes are really hard using a controller
t.played it on PSP
4fdcb3 No.15976317
>>15968278
>you can fail the investigations and miss some critical clue. Only that you'll realize it hours later and now you're locked into a bad ending.
That's way better than I thought it would be. I'll definitely be checking it out now. Refusing to punish the player for fucking up like that just makes the interaction seem pointless to me.