/v/ - Video Games

>>15796439

>Game sells because it's good

>Certain (((people))) get dollar signs in their eyes

>Sequel has to do X, Y and Z to widen the audience

>Surely this will make it sell more

>Game loses what made it so good/enjoyable in the process

Normally i'm a sucker for open world but all that open world garbage the last decade completely burned me out.

>>15796503

>After they fixed the Arkham Knight on pc

Did they also fix the 30fps limit on pc?

>>15796439

What exactly did go wrong? It's the same fucking game times five after all.

>>15796439

>so terribly wrong with City

only contrarian faggots think Assylum is the best. they fixed combat and had a better overall story arc in City. cry harder

>>15796595

Network is a really good movie and everyone should watch it.

>>15796439

The entire Arkham series is good. Rich white male superhero in storylines with minimal poz shoved in your face? What's not to like? It sure beats that new Spider-Man game. No one wants to play as a nigger or feminist.

>>15796439

arham asylum was also trash. maybe you just got better taste?

>>15796595

How come those bigots made cat woman white?

>>15796439

>capeshit

I really liked city and despite the really dumb finale and joker twist I had a lot of fun with it. The side content centered around Riddler's saw bullshit, Bane, Hush, etc. Was all bamham as fuck.

Plus playing in the Batman Beyond suit was rad as hell.

Because they not only had a shitty open world in the same style of Ubisoft games, but also every single story eventually ended up with the shitties Batman-villain as the main bad guy.

How the hell did they not notice or fix the GIANT ARM problem with every single Batman model in every game?

They're all fun. I don't see how they ruined it with the sequels when the gameplay is a straight up improvement.

>>15797142

But that's where you're wrong, Arkham Knight is a straight up downgrade in a lot of areas, particularly level design and boss design.

>>15796439

>with City and onwards

But City is arguably the best in the series. I played Asylum, City and Knight again recently and City is an improvement compared to Asylum in every way.

>>15796439

No one cares about Batman but DC cucks. Arkham flopped compared to sales of spider-man. Just like how Wonder Woman flopped. Thee no reason for Arkham to exist because of spider-man.

>>15797842

>>15796563

>fell for the open world meme

>and still constructs a map that somehow feels smaller than Asylum due to the shortage of decent indoor areas and dumb prop placement

>with a huge central area blocked off to the player because reasons

>godawful side missions

>440 FUCKING RIDDLER TROPHIES

>dumbest story in all four Arkham games

>plus it kicked off the "Joker must be the main villain in every Arkham game" shtick

>main plot is too fucking short and ends abruptly

>combat gets downright ridiculous once you balloon the "Batman vs. 8 guys" setup into "Batman vs. 20+ guys" and Batman starts hopping around the screen like a rabbit on meth

I could keep going but a lot of the cancer that was in later Arkham games was spawned by City.

>>15797142

They could have been better. Gameplay is okay, not good, but not bad either. Story was just slightly above average, but then again you can't except more from mainstream games.

One day, I hope to see a capeshit game set that is as vivid and charming as 1940s Superman.

>>15797994

Spider-Man PS4 is a lot more approachable than any game in the Arkham series.

>>15798258

I disagree. Most of the enhancements in the sequels were just to aid in navigation, and while Batman might have a larger utility belt, the enemy variability and AI has remained consistent with each release. The biggest difference between Asylum and the rest is how they're directed and the world design, and Asylum's approach lends itself more to a cohesive narrative.

>>15798337

>Most of the enhancements in the sequels were just to aid in navigation,

True. Makes me wonder what City and Knight would have been like if you could only grapple and walk instead of zip-gliding.

>the enemy variability and AI has remained consistent with each release.

I wouldn't agree with this at all. They mix up enemy types plenty in City. Knight only really added new stealth section enemies though.

>The biggest difference between Asylum and the rest is how they're directed and the world design, and Asylum's approach lends itself more to a cohesive narrative.

In-terms of side missions interrupting the narrative, yeah. But a cerealized story shouldn't be a videogame's selling point, otherwise you get Stranger Things/God of Soy clones. What is supposed to be a games selling point is what you can do in the game with your character. I.E. how much fun you can have, not whatever actors on the screen are doing.

Also, If you really think about it, Asylum's narrative wasn't really what you would call "cohesive" anyways. People just think its more cohesive/better because it's the first one they were exposed to. Video game story's are never truly cohesive because of the way games are designed.

Direction and world design are also fine IMO. You could say the atmosphere is different but that's more a matter of taste.

city was the best game in the series.

>>15798226

>tfw 80+ years of animation technology can't compete with this

>>15798448

>I wouldn't agree with this at all. They mix up enemy types plenty in City. Knight only really added new stealth section enemies though.

When I talk about enemy variety, I don't mean composition, but enemy types. I don't recall City adding any new enemies, unless the shielded ones were introduced in that version. The reason why I brought this up is to show that the series, or at least what I have played of it, has hardly evolved in the most important aspects.

>In-terms of side missions interrupting the narrative, yeah. But a cerealized story shouldn't be a videogame's selling point, otherwise you get Stranger Things/God of Soy clones. What is supposed to be a games selling point is what you can do in the game with your character. I.E. how much fun you can have, not whatever actors on the screen are doing.

I agree with your sentiment, and this is why I think Asylum is the better game. City didn't introduce enough new gameplay components to make it any more fun than Asylum, and I suspect that Knight suffers from the same situation. It really just comes down to how the direction of each game makes the player feel, and Asylum just sells it better.

>>15798470

Shocking, isn't it?

>>15796439

They made the mistake of listening to the fans instead of sticking to their initial vision

>People wanted an open world

<they made a boring map too big for the story (City, Knight).

>People wanted the batmobile even though the vehicle didn't fit with the story/universe (I'm not talking about the design)

<they added a batmobile and the entire Arkham Knight game was based around that shitty vehicle.

>>15796664

>No one wants to play as a nigger

Counterexample: San Andreas.

What people don't want is to play as a sanitized nigger.

>>15796793

all the female characters got worse as the series went on. Poison Ivy especially got hit hard, god she is so ugly in Arkham Knight.

>solid ass Metroidvania

<dude open world lmao

>>15798618

One of my friends had a DVD with some of the old Superman cartoons on it, but I think it was specifically the non-Fleischer episodes because I don't remember them looking this good.

>>15799586

You right.

>>15798682

Nope. Still don't.

Maybe demoman or Lewis I could handle, but give me soldier or Bill any day.

>>15798470

Wow it still holds up today it's actually bretty good. If you show that to anyone today and they'll vehemontly say it's shit compared to todays animation. I can't find the pic of an animator or artist saying todays art and animation is shit and there's need to teach how to properly animate and draw something like that.

>>15800261

Watching the Fleischer shorts I couldn't bother sitting through the propaganda with shit like a nazi satanist controlling niggers, it just looked like they dumped a whole bunch of money and american talent onto kiked films, it's just kind of pitiful.

>>15796439

The open world meme

>>15797994

Spiderman was a mediocre game.

>No one cares about the most popular super hero of all time

>>15796439

normalfags like muh open world

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