f4d621 No.15786330
The crossbow is a contemptible, complicated contraption carried by cowardly curs and callous cads of conspicuously crass, cruel, and craven character.
Convince me to the contrary.
e6d606 No.15786365
>>15786330
It's not complicated but pretty much yeah
fbf2b2 No.15786415
Real men learn to use a bow.
Crossbows are for women and the French.
7409f0 No.15786422
Mad bowman upset because his several years of training is made obsolete by a mere slingshot.
lmao at ur life, how does it feel that my liege can arm a few peasants with crossbows and beat ur guys.
fbf2b2 No.15786440
>>15786422
>drastic penetration falloff
>terrible accuracy due to shitty bolt aerodynamics
>more costly to make
>much slower rate of fire
>requires no strength to use so longbowman (pulling 120lbs of drawweight) end up fucking shit up in CQC if it comes to that
Stay mad frenchy, Henry V whipped your shit at Agincourt
602378 No.15786441
Hey Pope Innocent, fuck any altar boys today?
602378 No.15786456
>>15786440
>>15786415
>muh longbows can penetrate plate armor
Henry won because Frenchmen are dumber than frogs and had their horses shot out from under them while slogging through mud. The longbow had its last moment of glory at Agincourt and it was an outmoded weapon even then.
7409f0 No.15786463
>>15786440
>longbows
>penetrating anything, let alone a virgin of high birth
LMAO, go fuck yourself with a bodkin you dirty limey
8a44a9 No.15786482
>>15786330
>>15786415
>>15786440
>t. assmad swadians.
That's what happens when you trespass on Rhodok soil.
34cb68 No.15786489
What's that? I can't hear you. No, really. I actually can't hear you.
a9e2a7 No.15786491
>>15786330
just use a real gun
3bdc03 No.15786534
>>15786482
Say that to my face and not on mountain and we’ll see what happens
b15ed7 No.15786551
>>15786491
>That gun
Lol, Breivick was such a patsy.
862dca No.15786563
>>15786551
The word you're looking for is pussy.
A patsy is another name for scapegoat.
a9a7a5 No.15786577
Longbow wank at this point has easily reached the same level as katana wank was a decade ago.
There's a reason why only poor and isolated countries didn't switch over to crossbows and then guns as fast as possible.
>>15786415
>the French
You mean those guys who fought off the bow-using English in the hundred years war?
Those ones?
d34e12 No.15786586
>>15786440
>>15786415
>Muh agincourt
>Muh longbow
You do know France won the hundred years war right ?
You do know you basically speak 33% french ?
You do know bows are shit weapons compared to throwing axes ?
Franks will beat saxons anyday anyway.
1cd629 No.15786609
>>15786551
>>15786563
Wait, it could also have been "pansy".
I forgot about that word; I must swear too much.
8a44a9 No.15786618
>>15786534
>And not on a mountain
What's the matter swaddie? Too fat to climb a little hill?
81ba89 No.15786625
>>15786563
>pasty
Pastiche*
15c8a7 No.15786634
>thinking bows and crossbows are any different from each other
All of your perceived superiority won't save you from death by flying rock.
81ba89 No.15786650
>>15786634
What's that one Incan(?) weapon that was basically a stick used to launch a javelin? The Axlatyl or something?
dd2447 No.15786654
>>15786650
Atl Atl, it was aztec i believe
15c8a7 No.15786663
>>15786650
Spear-chuckers weren't exclusive to the Americas, but I believe you're thinking of the atlatl design specifically.
1144f6 No.15786673
The crossbow in 007: Agent Under Fire on the GameCube was an incredibly satisfying high-risk high-reward instant kill weapon with a high skill floor.
ae8e33 No.15786696
>>15786650
True story, I played a medieval fantasy P&P RPG with an autistic GM that thought a travelling tinker with engineering knowledge wasn't able to figure out how to make an atlatl.
It's a fucking lever with a spear on it. That's it.
a299ba No.15786730
All these French loving pansy faggots in this thread.
You're either a long bow Englishman, or you're a boy loving Frenchman.
81ba89 No.15786741
>>15786730
>Hurr I want to have a deformed skeleton because all I did was wank my bow for 20 years before dying at the ripe old age of 30
15c8a7 No.15786743
>>15786696
I have a fascination with "primitive" weaponry. It takes a hell of a lot of intuition and ingenuity to create useful, durable tools out of raw or basic materials. There is a majestic complexity to their design, despite often being considered "simple".
81ba89 No.15786748
>>15786743
I wonder how they first discovered they could create rope and shit from fibre material
1144f6 No.15786761
Side question: What are some good Megabuster-style weapons? Megabuster-style defined as:
1) Directed energy weapon
2) Eminently features a charge-up function where you can spend time to build a more powerful and satisfying attack
3) Arm mount optional, but nice.
All I can think of at the moment are the Husk Gun from Killing Floor, the SPARTAN laser from Halo, and the Phoenix Samurai from 007: Nightfire. And I guess Samus' arm cannon.
fde2ba No.15786784
I heard that the chinese used crossbows also as some sort of light artillery, look at these, you had to use your feet and pull whit your arms to reload, what more can you tell me about this?
abb780 No.15786790
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>>15786440
>muh Agincourt
The English won Agincourt due to French incompetenc, not thanks to any inherit superiority of the longbow over the crossbow. To summarize if you don't want to watch the video
>Muddy field with forests on each side. No flanking the English line.
>French allow the English to advance until the longbows can fire on the French infantry but keep their own bowmen and crossbowmen back so they can't return fire.
>French cavalry charge the stakes the English are hiding behind and impale themselves.
>When the French infantry finally get off their asses, the field is muddy so it slows them to fuck while the English continue firing on them.
>When the French finally reach the English line, they're funneled into the center where the longbows keep firing away on at them in at short range until they run out of arrows.
a299ba No.15786801
>>15786741
This is why you're a boy loving French faggot.
I'd rather stand on my feet for those short 30 years, a free man standing tall than on my knees for eternity as a slave. Ironic you mention a deformed skeleton as the aliment as it's self-evident you lack of spine.
15c8a7 No.15786813
>>15786748
If you're referring to the material in image 3, that is not twine, but sinew. When correctly processed, it will shrink as it dries, acting as a natural bind.
e9a548 No.15786817
>1550
>not equipping your entire army with guns
f66e49 No.15786847
>>15786663
>>15786650
the australian aborigines had these as well
in fact it was the pinnacle of their weapons technology because they were so dumb they actually forgot how to make bows despite their ancestors bringing them over 30,000 years ago LOL
ae8e33 No.15786860
>>15786761
You forgot the plasma pistol from Halo and nuDoom. The Halo plasma pistol was more satisfying for that right hook melee animation though.
8a44a9 No.15786875
>>15786860
>>15786761
In wh40k space marine you can get a plasma pistol which can be charged up. The shot then sticks to target and explodes.
a9a7a5 No.15786878
>>15786801
It's like reading a lindybeige video.
>>15786817
That image is obviously fake, everyone knows the Japanese refused to use guns until the end of the 19th century.
Haven't you seen such high-quality and historically accurate films such as "the last samurai"?
c66355 No.15786934
>>15786878
The Japanese didn't use weapons at all, they were too dishonnabu. When they fought in wars they would just fight with their bare hands using kung fu. The katana was only a ceremonial weapon.
15c8a7 No.15786952
>>15786784
Crossbow-type weapons as artillery wasn't a terribly unique concept. The Romans and Greeks had similar contraptions (scorpio, ballista, gastraphetes, oxybeles, etc).
The Chinks did go a little crazy with their designs though.
8a44a9 No.15786954
>>15786934
Rittre did anyone know, they summoned the warrior spirit of their ancestors to do grorious battre against their enemies warriors spirits. Jojo's Bizzare Adventure is actually a re-enactment documentary.
378f52 No.15786966
Such faggotry in this thread
>Crossbows
>Bows
>Ballista
>Guns
>Bricks
>Spears
You fags so weak you can't just punch them to death?
4e21ab No.15787026
>Muh crossbows
>Muh oxybeles
>Muh scorpion
Make way for the Hwacha. Because a few rocket-powered arrows will probably hurt pretty bad.
1144f6 No.15787031
>>15787026
Have to give the gooks credit for inventing the MLRS.
8a44a9 No.15787052
>>15787026
It is not accurate, or very good. Mostly it is an anti-morale weapon because if you see all those arrows coming at you with the smoke and the fire and such you might break. Maybe it'd be ok at killing if the enemy was particularly fond of dense formations and didn't have good armor or shields but as is not really.
2ceadb No.15787097
>>15786482
Swadians use crossbows as well, infact Rhodoks probably picked their use up off of them.
4e21ab No.15787103
>>15787052
>Maybe it'd be ok at killing if the enemy was particularly fond of dense formations and didn't have good armor or shields but as is not really.
This was the precise case with the Japs that kept invading the Korean peninsula. For reference: In once instance, a Korean garrison of aprox. 3000 men held back a Japanese force number around 30,000. This entire bushido bullshit is not really all that helpful when your enemy doesn't give a shit about "honorabru combattu" and instead subjects you to bombardment from afar.
8a44a9 No.15787125
>>15787097
Except swadian crossbowmen are shit, so they probably tried to copy the Rhodoks when they realized that a slight incline disables their entire battle strategy.
15061a No.15787144
>>15786801
>he says this, as his menfolk are weak, effeminate and pathetic cuckolds, and his womenfolk are raped by shitskin invaders.
2ceadb No.15787150
>>15787125
Generally speaking that which breaks off the main deal tends to adopt whatever was left over, i.e everyone in the former second german empire used mausers.
a9a7a5 No.15787154
>>15787103
Bushido didn't exist during either invasion of Korea, it's an edo-period concept.
In the 1590's "honorabru combattu" consisted of pike and shot formations of ashigaru with samurai operating as elite units and officers.
The hwacha was a mediocre weapon to use on armies that outfitted their basic infantry with armor, unlike the koreans for instance.
727cd6 No.15787165
>>15786586
What language are you speaking now bitch?
e36bf3 No.15787170
>>15787154
>that neat little lead shot dispenser
Thats kind of a cool little way to store and dispenser their shots.
eb8668 No.15787184
when are games gonna let me use a pavise with the crossbow?
a299ba No.15787186
>>15787144
You just described every single white nation. Including the U.S.
15061a No.15787189
>>15787186
But I'm not in denial about what's happening, unlike the asshurt Anglokike I was replying to.
d34e12 No.15787222
>>15787184
Chivalry does it, you can also throw axes and knives aswell as javelins and use the sling, short bows and war bows, just dont say nigger or any racial slur in chat because you'll be banned by the cucknadian devs.
bfd60d No.15787294
>>15787222
You'll be banned for using ranged weapons, for people who pride themselves on their mouse skills they absolutely lose their shit when you're a bow user or god forbid use feints. Why do they hate that so much?
eb8668 No.15787336
>>15787294
because knightlets can't have their pride be tainted by getting shat on by a mere crossbow bolt
7652b0 No.15787396
4bcb6d No.15787426
Spears > every other weapon
Prove me wrong faggots
013fd6 No.15787431
Not one of you niggers appreciates a fine mace
8ee223 No.15787482
Find a more powerful personal weapon. I'll wait.
a9e2a7 No.15787501
>>15786784
they also used gunpowder, so there was exploding arrows
497105 No.15787512
>>15786878
>>15786817
How fucking good was it for the Japs. Some wogs and brtiburqas show up and sell you weapons that took hundreds of years to develop right off the boat.
56796e No.15787517
>>15787426
sure its easy to train and arm hundreds of soldiers with a long pointed stick but it doesn't make it interesting to see in media compared to more romantic weapons like swords
>>15787431
>tfw maxes and axes never fucking get good movesets in games
b1ad88 No.15787518
>>15787482
>XCOM
>1% hit chance even at point blank range
Even staring you to death works better.
9d09df No.15787568
>get sword
>fantastic, elaborate movesets with variety
>get spear
>poke
Monster Hunter and sorta Dark Souls are the only games off the top of my head where polearms are fun to use.
1ca9a9 No.15787602
>>15787517
Even as someone who usually sticks with swords, greatswords, and bows (bonus points if it ties to my heritage), I feel bad for Axe users. There's more versatility to them than most games give them credit for.
>>15787568
Indeed. On a somewhat related note, Dragon's Dogma could've made spears and axes more fun if Capcom bothered to add them in (and not just a copy of a greatsword in regards to axes and hammers)
dc14b7 No.15787760
>>15787184
mount and blade had a mod for that but they never managed to get the AI to also do it
bfd60d No.15787812
>>15787568
Well poking is the most easiest and most effective thing to do with a spear, it's basically varying degrees of mastered poking techniques. Plus I'm not sure how many moments of a PC getting wrecked as soon as the distance is closed past the head a player would enjoy.
d906ae No.15787859
070bc6 No.15787902
>>15787517
>>tfw maxes and axes never fucking get good movesets in games
I thought Dark Souls 2 had a legitimately decent moveset for them. Too bad the game sucked overall.
72e755 No.15788503
>>15786586
The only thing the french can beat is their dick to cuck porn.
e4dc06 No.15788527
>vidya weapons thread
>actually just medieval /k/ with shitflinging between the Anglos and the frogs
>not a single mention of shotguns in sight
I feel cheated.
a299ba No.15788528
>>15787189
You're in denial about everything in your life, that's why your go to response is to insult. It's projection from inside your unfulfilled life.
345081 No.15788538
>>15786330
I, too, enjoy wordplay my alliterate friend
fe9cf3 No.15788547
>>15787426
>>15787568
I like spears, lances and halberds the most, but there aren't many action games which have them or even have enough detail to combat to make them fun.
They can be good in RPGs at least.
Swords got really boring after so many years of seeing them.
8b6d7a No.15788600
>>15787222
>pick up Chivalry a few years back
>really enjoying it
>learning how best to use each weapon
>begin getting compliments almost every round
>feels pretty good
>hit level 20
>"You are no longer permitted to play in the low-level servers"
>didn't even realize that was a thing
>oh well, I'm sure I can do fine in the regular servers
>quickly find out that that Chivalry consists of who can best exploit the mechanics
>standard attack consists of jumping at an opponent, turning 180 degrees away from him, looking up at the sky and performing an overhead swing
>doing so causes the start of your weapon's damage point to appear in your opponents head
>never play again
2f89a2 No.15788613
>>15787294
Because it is just like in real life.
>pope pls nerf
843a8a No.15788711
>>15786456
>The longbow had its last moment of glory at Agincourt and it was an outmoded weapon even then.
Really? It wasn't that French plate armor was a fucking retarded thing to wear in an open muddy field during a rain storm?
a48672 No.15788743
>butthurt noble got his expensive ass plate armor penetrated by an inbred peasant with a crossbow
Boohoo, go cry to the pope to ban assault crossbows.
7b1e78 No.15789359
>>15786330
Beware! Breast-fed bozo is blatantly barricading your brains by babbling bloody bollocks! Bullets be the best!
a7d87e No.15789835
>>15786330
applauding your alliterative assault on the alleged "arbelest". however i acknowledge your accusations as awkward.. if accurate
au revoir
b483ec No.15789857
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The Winchester Model 1897 Pump-Action Shotgun
Not only is it THE war time shotgun, it also came in a takedown model which let you basically spam the trigger button so it functioned like a primitive M1014.
It was actually so effective during WWI that the Germans got butthurt about it.
>Although the Model 1897 was popular with American troops in World War I, the Germans soon began to protest its use in combat. "On 19 September 1918, the German government under Ludendorff issued a diplomatic protest against the American use of shotguns, alleging that the shotgun was prohibited by the law of war." A part of the German protest read that "It is especially forbidden to employ arms, projections, or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering" as defined in the 1907 Hague Convention on Land Warfare.
b483ec No.15789863
>>15789857
The only notable example I have found was in COD: World at War. Wrecked at all ranges.
b82638 No.15789864
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>>15787512
Colonialism in a nutshell.
>>15787052
>Not very good.
When you have 10 to 20 of these lined up raining 200 rocket-assisted arrows down upon an armored formation, you tell me if it's not effective then.
d89a57 No.15789887
>>15789857
First off, the 1897 lacks a disconnector allowing it to be slamfired. With the trigger depressed, it will fire as fast as you can rack it, also applicable to older ithacas and model 12's which are better in every regard.
a7d87e No.15789888
>>15787536
i have no idea why they want with a rabbids game instead of making woomycom
d0c016 No.15789895
>>15786415
shut the fuck up Lindybeige
a48672 No.15789901
>>15789857
>>15789863
I think thats what the shotgun in the remake of resident evil its supposed to be.
b483ec No.15789951
>>15789887
>implying that is a bad thing
I like the M1897 simply because of how it looks, and the fact that Germany was trying to ban it during a WORLD WAR because of how vicious it was in a soldier's hands. But don't get me wrong I would not be opposed to using an Ithaca 37 or a Model 12, just leave 1897-chan alone.
>>15789901
It looks similar but I can't tell for certain.
08bb76 No.15789960
>>15789835
Alliterations add additional appeal! And, as ascertained in aforementioned accounts, arbalests are appalling, as are accursed archers.
fa2da8 No.15790061
>>15786663
I used to kill rabbits/rats…lemmings? and ptarmigan with one of these with short sharpened and fire hardened pointed sticks as a kid growing up in bumfuck nowhere. I got good at other birds too but the one red front goose was protected and my Grandma slapped the shit out of me when I brought some home that had been nesting. Still cooked them tho. I always tried to get a fox but never could, I didn't want to cheat and set out a dead lemming as bait. I could have that way.
When I got older with a rifle it was easy to kill shit, but that stick thrower felt satisfying and I still think about it. Was gonna make one and try it on some hares or grouse here for old time's sake. I'll be honest I think a grown man with a good stregnth and skill and a longer spear with a modern broadhead tip could take down a deer with this with a shot in a vital place. You can really throw hard and steady with these things!
b60605 No.15790094
>>15786330
did u literally just use a white skin for arbelest you fucking cis scum????? WE WUZ CROSSBOWS N SHIET NIGGA
057735 No.15790126
>>15786784
>your feet and pull whit your arms to reload
That is how regular crossbows are used.
057735 No.15790130
>>15786330
>plate armor
>crossbow woman
Dankest dungeon sure fucked up with that design.
c36cd8 No.15790157
>>15789864
In your own video is doesn't hit that many troops. Like I said, it'd be very effective against dense formations since regular archers are more effective against dense formations. Mostly a terror weapon unless you're fighting romans or saxons that forgot to bring their shields.
13a7a0 No.15790216
any games out there that use rare or experimental weapons? seems like every shooting game just gives you an AKM and an M16 but makes every other gun completely useless
c36cd8 No.15790242
>>15790216
Pancor Jackhammer is in a couple games despite it being a terrible gun and only 3 of them existing in the world.
15061a No.15790298
>>15788528
By your own logic, your ad hominem against me means that you're in denial, lmao.
f6eddb No.15790539
>>15789888
That squid shouldn't be out in the rain.
f82bf6 No.15790608
>>15787431
The default Mace in the Dark Souls games look so damn good.
a9a7a5 No.15790838
>>15789864
>10 to 20 of these lined up raining 200 rocket-assisted arrows
Now imagine using all that manpower and material to instead arm a company of men with guns, or a few cannons instead.
Just look at the video, even if they had the range dialed in as well as a rack of arrows with rockets attached would allow, there's nothing to indicate that they'd pierce armor.
8b140a No.15791013
>>15789888
>>15790539
>That squid shouldn't be out in the rain.
Why are making me remember?
e98783 No.15791018
>>15789857
>tfw i work for buds and Hickok is a cool guy
c8833c No.15791036
>>15791013
>lolicon rape monster monster girl bike shorts snuff vore yandere vomit squid girl
Noooooooooooooooope.
a7d87e No.15791075
>>15790539
squids are fucking invincible
18de67 No.15791082
>>15786330
Calm down Annemarie.
ab758f No.15791111
Loli on a chain will be best fist weapon whenever it's implemented.
18de67 No.15791132
>>15791111
If I ever make a game I'll include a weapon just like this.
15061a No.15798534
>>15787568
>get spear
>poke
This post hurts my feefees. Partizan is awesome spear and moveset is one of the best and most versatile in the game across all weapons.
I maxed out red arena in DS2 using nothing but partizan and parrying dagger. I had to beat flipping havelmoms with hexes and butterfly clowns with toxic clouds to do that.
9f0a1b No.15798543
>>15787568
MonHun and Dark Souls are like the only games that even let you use spears and Polearms, for fuck's sake. MonHun pisses me off, too, because the Insect Glaive is just too silly and Lance/Gunlance are mostly for poking. Gunlance has some nice combos in newer games, but there's still no proper polearm/spear weapon and it feels awful.
15061a No.15798547
>>15798542
ds3 sucks in general
15061a No.15798574
>>15798557
That's your opinion.
0256fb No.15799153
>>15798557
no.
you don't know what you're talking about.
8a5d6d No.15800174
673fb3 No.15801787
>>15787568
It's a shame how sword obsessed pop culture is since spears are better in literally every single way.
cb7ddf No.15805238
>>15787518
He wasn't posting about XCOM, Reddit, he was posting about X-COM.