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>Early Access

Wheres the magnet link?

Sigh..updating my mod is going to take a while with all the changes…

>>15746801

well?

>>15745465

>shills game

>doesn't post mega or magnet

>>15746801

this

Can colonies run themselves or does the player have to be general, logistics officer, planetary governor, admiral, janitor, etc on top of being leader?

Whats the point of making a thread if you don't post a magnet or a link or something you faggot

>>15747145

Okay, so then you can easily just copy-paste it here.

Fuckin finally. I didn't bother with the last big update since it didn't seem like much was added and I would have just burnt out after a few hours.

>>15752236

what?

I just went to fetch the link because other anons wouldn't. Nigger.

Download the game from his website and replace the original starfarer_obf.jar

with http://www.mediafire.com/file/5zmlvzsl6oc1z1p/starfarer_obf.jar

>>15752266

Will give you a couple messages referencing that it knows it's pirated, one of which hints towards RNG being affected, but as far as I know it's just grandstanding & has no effect

>>15752290

You fucking retard. You realize we have a /vg/ board, right?

>>15752725

Don't even give it (You)s.

So no link? Ok, thanks for sharing your game so no one plays it.

Which faction should I take a commission for? Or should I just start my own empire from the start?

>>15754948

Literally like 10 posts above you.

after playing this game for a few hours it seems pretty good. like a better version of endless sky. have to play it longer but it seems like it's going to be worth paying $15 at some point.

Hey it's giving me a "Fatal:String" window for some reason, what did I fucked up

>>15756416

>~450-500k

I envy you so much.My 8 world empire is struggling so hard for it's 150k in the post-omnicidal ruins of the sector.

It's great never needing the transponder on, though

>>15756416

Haven't messed with colonies yet, any tips for when I feel like colonizing? Barely feel the need, drug trade made me 3.500.000 credits up to this point. There are some insanely lucrative routes in my sector.

>>15756449

I started my first colony in the empty star system right next to corvus and askonia. There's an arid planet there with bonuses to farming and two mineable resources. During low population levels, I used gamma cores to keep local demands low and maximizing export of goods like fuel, supplies and domestic and luxury goods. In the end I was exporting most things in existance and only importing volatiles and transplutonic ore. Most things I am currently exporting I am holding around 25-35% market share, making me one of the largest exporters in the sector. Then I turned on free trade after making sure I can take the 3 stability hit along with multiple raids and made another 100k off exporting drugs.

Specializing into goods like supply and goods is important because satisfying the local demand for those instantly gives you another point in stability. Making my first colony between two major strongholds also meant most pirate raids never made it past hyperspace as they were cut down by hegemony detachments, lion guards or independent mercs.

>>15756466

Stability and accesibility is king. If you can find a planet in the core system that is only occupied by pirates, feel free to bomb the pirates until they depopulate the place and recolonize it. There should be 4 vacant star systems in the core sector even though one is a pirate raid base, one is filled with luddites and I think one more basically has no planets. The only reason why you should colonize outside of the core sector is that the planet has extensive ruins because ruin mining is pretty great

How exactly can I get blueprints?

I know you can get them from exploration, but it's very random and unreliable. If I sign up with a faction and get my rep with them high, can I get blueprints for their top-end ships from them?

>>15756605

No, you either get the exploration skill to massively buff your chances of getting good blueprints from domain era ruins and space hulks or you raid enemy military installments. I think waiting for blueprints to go on sales is very rare. Personally have not seen any

>>15756567

Oh, believe me, I know how to optimize a colony, but when the global markets are only 10-20k value each, there's only so much room for profit.

So, I downloaded from the site, then that file anon posted and it wont launch the game, it keeps giving me a "Fatal:String" window for some reason, any help?

>>15756699

Sorry, I've paid for the game long ago, can't help you there.

>>15759410

>I'm suprised it isnt on steam.

The dev is on the autistic spectrum and thus takes uneconomic amount of time to design, fine tune, scrap and redo gameplay systems before releasing new patches. The 0.8 patch was June 2017, the last hotfix for it was July 2017. The players essentially waited more than a year for the colony system along with the redone economic system. Furthermore, I think he hates the people who buy EA games on steam.

>>15759418

Who the fuck is that girl shes kinda cute.

>>15759428

I'm fine with that, hes taking his time and making meaninful changes to the game.

At least its not like Cubeworld which seemingly went into development hell.

>>15759469

Jesus christ nigger you really can't stop with the cubeworld comparisons can you?

>>15759388

Also that potrait is apparently female because everyone keeps calling my skeletal pilot ma'am. Guess I get to be a cute skeleton grill

Are you people having problems with too many nebulas?

>>15760996

Nebulas are hide in where I do

My level 48 character save got corrupted. Fuck this game.

>>15761250

there should be .bak files inside the save folder

>>15761263

Looks like even the backup has already been corrupted. I am fucked.

>>15761328

Honestly Ive been having this issue as well, probably because Im a retard but I still have to try this "get 2 really big ships with no guns and stupid amounts of armor" and then just either get 4 missile ships or go full retard and make a whole row of carriers since those seem to kill everything they come across.

>>15758419

No it was because i genocided everyone. Market share was 100%, accessibility was all over 100%

So, what determines the quality and type of ships a faction will have available to sell at their ports? Also, what does faction disposition even do now, since that used to be the requirement to buy better ships from a faction.

>>15761820

afaik its the faction the port is with, then the quality of their shipyard and whether it has a nanoforge installed

>>15761833

I swear I've seen ports go from having nothing but trash (D) ships to carrying Eagle cruisers in mint condition, can they just acquire a nanoforge after some time, or am I just crazy and not remembering things correctly?

>>15761820

>o, what determines the quality and type of ships a faction will have available to sell at their ports?

Faction doctrine and if they have nanoforge or not influences quality, but selection depends on the blueprints.

>>15761820

>Also, what does faction disposition even do now, since that used to be the requirement to buy better ships from a faction.

Same as before, just now there are a few combat ships on the open market, instead of borderline nothing.

>>15761841

>>15761843

Availability of supplies and ship hulls also affects it, and so does piracy by extension.

>>15761818

Should I completely stop trusting the autofit configs?

>>15761850

You know you can configure your own templates, right?

>>15761850

newest hotfix includes fix for a bug that caused autofit weirdness

>>15761852

Ye but I thought the default templates were decent enough, I'll just make my own from now on.

>>15761865

Does the game auto-update?

>>15761878

no, you have to redownload it every time

>Have 3 rich colonies

>Use them to mass produce one of the most high-tech frigate known to man

>Use these armies of expensive Hyperion frigates purely as a first wave of cannon fodder to get destroyed and clog up the enemy ship's guns with wreckage

I didn't expect the end game to be like this

>>15761281

If you haven't, set up the vmparams file to run a much larger RAM stack than 1.5gb. 1.5gb is honestly not enough to reliably make save files if you have mods and other shit. I'm running on 5120mb ram.

>>15761782

>selling to yourself and expecting to make money

Anon I…

>>15760077

I used the random name to determine the gender of my character. Female ones get female names, and males get male names.

>>15762984

Glad you mentioned this anon. Will have to tweak my shit before I play again.

>>15752266

game does not launch with this

>>15763368

If you want to increase your battlesize and fleet max, you can also adjust that through the settings file in the config folder

>>15761213

you need to stop smoking marijuana

>>15763973

It's almost exactly like Mount & Blade in space. The 2D ship combat is pretty good, though. Offers more variety than M&B typically does.

>>15752208

Anybody try this?

I'm too lazy to check for the password.

>>15763999

Unfortunately M&B doesn't let me corner the butter market.

>>15761818

I think I settled on giving all my Wolfs a tachyon lance, three tac lasers, and sabot SRMs. Non-Reaper torpedoes don't do enough damage and the AI always wastes Reapers.

>>15764024

>wolf a tachyon lance

How did you wolf managed to mount a large energy weapon?

> Non-Reaper torpedoes don't do enough damage and the AI always wastes Reapers.

The answer is giving the AI loads of dagger bomber wings. Atropos torpedo spam will kill everything slower than a destroyer since it tracks to target

>>15764035

I think he meant to say phase beam or whatever it's called. I'm also a fan of that tactic.

>>15764035

>>15764036

Yeah, a phase lance.

Torpedo bomber spam is a good idea, I had all my carriers loaded with wasps after a traumatic run-in with a Hegemony carrier group but I've got three apogees with locust SRMs now.

>>15764053

If you have the numbers, piranha spam will also delete anything without flak cannons.

>>15764053

The rocket bombers are also surprisingly good, I've found. I can't remember if those are from a mod or not. You need to combo a good number of shield-disabling stuff with it, but they can really chew through some HP.

>>15764060

Those are likely khopesh bombers or something similar to that. They carry two small annihilator rocket pods.

>>15752208

>>15752885

>>15763012

>>15764013

0.9a-RC10, this works

https://mega.nz/#!9cRiCCyL!5Wr9e18KzWmBC-5fXdgpqp-IA6ki4uzLGHCueWJxfoI

from >>>/vg/97795

copy starfarer_obf.jar to install folder/starsector-core, overwrite

>>15764069

Yes, I'm fairly sure those are the ones. Maybe not the most efficient thing in the game but it's definitely amusing to watch them work.

>>15764076

Also, the fighter/bomber AI got redone. So if you are running say 1 broadsword heavy fighter and 3 wings of various bombers in one carrier, your carrier's broadswords will tank PD hits for the bombers enroute and will use their machine guns to bully the target's shield and overloading them if possible to allow the bombers to do their jobs. Bombers will also not rush at full speed at the target until a window is present. Once a target overloads you'll see your bombers speed up to exploit the chance.

Also I had 15 of them over 5 legions at one point. The amount of rockets was enough to instantly delete anything smaller than a heavy cruiser.

>>15764080

That sounds excellent. It's too bad I'm travelling for the holidays. Will definitely have to start up a campaign when I get back.

>>15764103

The patch essentially changed the way i play carriers. Currently i have 10 legions in my fleet, 8 of them are fire support so they have dual gauss, 5 pilums for missile saturation and the fighter bays have 1 broadsword and 3 daggers. The other two legions are running close assault builds so they have dual hespestus cannons, 2 dual flaks on the flanks and 3 sabot srm pods with fighter bays of 2 claw fighter that do emp damage and 2 longbow fighters who also carry sabot missiles

>>15764072

Thanks, I think the other crack in the thread is probably for the previous release RC9.

You can just type anything as the activation key and it works.

>>15764072

>>15764180

the crack is in the download. i didn't even try to run it without applying the crack. it never asked me for an activation key.

>>15764233

I mean the crack further up in the thread, its in the first 10 posts.

holy fuck I totally forgot I bought this game years ago. Let's hope I can find my email with the code in it

>>15765932

reeeeeeeeee more prospecting then

>>15765951

You should get a colony with farmland for your first one, a water/jungle/terran planet, it will make it easier to start up.

After that you can use those funds to colonize worlds without food but with high minerals since they will need more money to start turning a profit

>>15765951

No, seriously. Ore, rare ore? Persean League and Tri-Tachyon get pissed. Refining? PL and Sindrian Diktat get pissed. Tech-mining? PL and SD again.

Little tip: yellow/low danger system are actually completely safe to fleets of more than 6 ships, so consider claiming these as well.

>>15766025

I just did a derelict scan mission and I found data for a habitable planet, problem is it's on the edge of the map, can you make profit even though it's that fucking far?

>>15766294

Stick to farming and it will do. The only issue is that when you build mines, you'll also have to build patrol HQ, at least, so try to have 200k on the ready or be ready to get back there and defend your place from expeditionary fleets. Though, if you plan on defending the place yourself, orbital station will be a better pick than patrol HQ.

>>15766294

Try to find somewhere closer to the core sectors for your first colony, that one will be useful later since once you've built fully upgraded defenses on a colony you don't have to visit it unless you want to assign AI cores/forges/etc or to take supplies/fuel from it

>>15766492

>Rich Farmland

>Vast Ruins

Set for life. Colonise the shit out of Lempo.

Here's a tip: gamma cores are only useful for reducing drug demands in mining, otherwise they're a waste of space. Sell them all. Beta and alpha cores are actually useful, so save them for your colonies.

>>15766529

Thanks for the tip, how about forges? I have two corrupted ones and a pristine one, any tip on how to use them effectively?

>>15766544

The only thing forges are used for is putting onto heavy industry, which makes your built ship quality better and give you some more credit income

>>15766544

Keep 1 corrupted nanoforge, sell the other one. As for pristine one, once you get the station and/or patrol HQ, build heavy industry as well and equip pristine nanoforge on the first occasion. Not only will heavy industry turn into money maker because of that, but also your faction's fleets will be able to use all ships you have blueprints for and not just combat freighters and other pieces of shit. This is a huge jump in quality. Also, you will be able to produce ships and weapons for yourself as well. The only issue is that this will draw the ire of other factions, but then again - it also improves your combat capability. Too bad expedition fleets start absurdly strong, in relation to your capabilities.

>>15766591

Try to look for <200% hazard cryovolcanic world with ore, rare ore and volatiles. You'll be able to produce every kind of resource.

>>15766631

Thanks for the info, as for expedition fleets, will the fact that the system is literally on the edge of the map (right side) help me avoid some of those fleet will they be able to make their way there like they would within the core?

>>15766726

Jesus, what a bunch of dicks. What if you're 100 in favor with a faction, will they still suddenly turn hostile?

>>15766735

Fighting expeditionary forces reduces your standing by 5 or less every battle, so the sooner your colony defends on its own, the better. Other than that, you can sacrifice 25 relation points to avert a raid completely before it starts, just click at that big, blue button on the right (the alternative is to pay a lot of money). As far as I know, nothing stops them from sending these fleets, not even a commission and perfect relations, which is why I didn't bother with them in the first place (and because I scavenged a lot).

>>15766747

That's…disappointing

>>15766726

Would be nice if being commissioned by a faction meant they would help protect your colonies from expeditions

Did the carrier AI drastically change in this latest version? Even with cautious captain I can't seem to keep my light carriers from trying to ram enemy ships.

Is there a way to produce Recreational Drugs?

>>15767221

Get your pop high enough and eventually they'll start producing them, add an alpha core so they produce more

>>15767221

light industry + free port = MAD DOSH

>>15767164

What weapons do you have on them? If you have only PD and missiles, the AI borks and uses the range of the PD to determine how close it should stay to the enemy.

>start game

>told i could be a scavenger

>totally up for the scavenge lifestyle

<no wait, we need you to take out these assholes

<and here's some free military ships to boot

<quickly, use your fleet to take out these miners and restore our gates

I feel like I've made or am making a mistake somehow. I just wanted to dig through scrapped ships and sell the goods. Work my way up to a freighter. Am I misunderstanding something?

>>15767431

that's only the tutorial

your not going to avoid combat though.

>>15767511

>your not going to avoid combat though

I didn't think I would, either, but is the tutorial separate from the rest of the game? Will I reset? It seems weird that I have a fleet right off the bat is all.

>>15768536

You can skip it after doing it for the first time, also the ships you get are just like the guy said, shit.

Also for whoever that lurks this thread do you have a working 9.0 version with the crack? I downloaded the 8.1a because I really wanted to try it out but fucking hell I want an outpost and I've been looking around are only on 9.0 right now, I guess thats true?

>>15767511

>>15768536

I thought you couldn't avoid fighting the two fleets at the portal but if you use "go silent" you actually can and complete the tutorial without any fight.

>>15767431

Starsector is about combat. Everything is supposed to lead you to it.

>>15768573

Lurk moar until you download a brain and notice it already is in this very thread.

>>15769458

Why the fuck does it have just 8% accessibility? Did you declare war on everybody or what? Make it a free port, it gives +10% accessibility and it grows to +50% over time.

>>15769472

It's on the edge of the map

>>15769001

Nigger I downloaded it and replaced the thing it gave me a fucking window saying fatal:string with no fucking explaniaton to why

>>15769476

With just luddic path and pirates hostile, it gives -11% accessibility, and the biggest malus I can get on my normal size sector is -22%. That still should leave you with 17% accessibility with just a space port, 27% with a waystation as well. Do you not have Fleet Logistics? First two levels give +15% accessibility each, on top of being useful for fleet itself.

>>15769510

werks 4 me

try to look for another (I've heard it's already on rutracker) or try to type in any serial before applying crack

>>15745465

oh nice glad i kept my key around since like a billion years ago

>>15769536

You could scrap the whole thing and look for an actual well placed system, the issue is that you just made your colony stupidly far away, technically you could do that but you would need cash upfront to make outposts in many systems so you create an enviorment where your colonies trade with eachother just like the base game one does

>>15769562

Yikes, I'm probably going to do just that, it's a shame, this system has one arid and one cryovolcanic planet that are both dank for mining, had it been close to the core it would have been perfect.

>>15769565

If you are playing with a mixed sector then you could find really good planets very close to the core

>>15769572

I'll look harder then, right now i'll run missions to get enough dosh to dampen my latest fuckup

>>15769577

Try to not count on the market to make money, unless you just haul around tons of food for the food shortages which in that case it's profitable.

Also I think volatiles, pluto bars and organics sell for a lot on capital planets since they use it for their industries, at least thats what I managed to understand from it.

Also holy shit it fucking works, time to sink even more time in this, since I live in a shithole and have no money I don't know when I'll be able to buy this but fucking hell an actual well made space game

>>15769584

Nah I just run missions, they pay fairly well, just ran one for a food delivery and made 150k, around 110k net if I count in fuel and supplies for the journey.

>>15769587

U wot 267adc

>>15769584

Running logistic missions for pirate planets is pretty great. We're talking 1 mil credits for 3-4k supplies level of turnover

>>15769647

>>15769601

Im not saying missions don't pay well, just that building an outpost in the land of nowhere without foreseeing needing more than one outpost to make a stable enviorment is just dumb.

Also building one comm relay helps with accessibility

>>15769827

comm relay doesn't increase accessibility, but stability, which is important too, since it's an income multiplier.

>>15769827

I had a comm relay but pirate niggers kept controlling it

>go get food for new colony

>faggot persian sent strike fleet while away

>come back

>beat the shit out of him with a few LC and a regular cruiser

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

This pirate raid is ridiculous. I mean it's nice exp and whatnot but I've killed so many pirates space around this starport it littered with their fucking corpses. I'm afraid I'm gonna encounter some event horizon shit and wails of the damned are gonna start piercing my hull. At the very least remnants of their ships are gonna clutter up the orbit for a while.

It seems like their raiding on a near constant basis though. Where are they getting all the throwaway ships?

>>15770911

There are ayyliums (kinda) and they are super swole too, I tried to crack a cryogenic cascet 3 times but the ayy is just too stronk so i'll have to come back with a combat fleet

>>15764080

>this post

Made me moan, God save the autists.

>>15770259

Good for you, I keep finding ruined XIV Legion battlecarriers. Not even an Eagle, a Falcon or an Onslught. No, three Legions in short sucession.

>>15771231

What did you do anon? WHAT DID YOU DO?

>>15771231

Child support in space, Lord have mercy.

>>15769001

>Starsector is about combat. Everything is supposed to lead you to it.

The terrorists can be bribed. Havent found any other way to pay my way out of trouble.

>>15769458

>8% access

And I though having the pirates raiding the colony -50% and a -20% toofarawayfromcolonies, was fucking bad, I still had 50% access total, all because I wanted to save some prewar civilians freezed up in a ship.

>Storage

>-8039 shekels

anon get all that shit and store it in your OWN COLONY!

>>15769562

>so you create an enviorment where your colonies trade with eachother just like the base game one does

how can i get rid of the -20% toofarawayfromcolonies penalty? i built another colony right next to those faggots and i still got a that penalty.

>>15769855

>his fleet protecting the colony gets bullied

>Fleets 56% and 5 defects

no wonder

>>15771231

Space alimony?

>>15771293

Dude, you can store your own shit for free in the core worlds in the Lost Astropolis around Mayasura or the Abadoned Terraforming Platform around Corvus and a bunch other locations too.

>>15771316

Cool

Anyone know if you can get stuff other than a population boost from cracking domain cryosleepers?

>>15771293

yep, I also think that the shit your colonist find in ruins, that they are exploring, get sent to the colony that has all your shit stored.

also, for the love of god dont sell your blueprints, because if you do, they disappear forever, but the nanoforge and "makesmoregas" items dont, so you can buy them later if you remember were you sold them.

>>15771356

Tech-mining results get sent to the colony that is selected on the Custom production panel (D -> 5)

>>15771356

>nanoforges and synchrotrons don't disappear of the market

Cool. If you sell them on the black market, that deposit doesn't cost you either, since sell and buy prices are the same (I hope).

>>15771356

>not learning every single blueprint you come across

Man, the colony stuff is a huge pain in the ass right now. Even if you've got good accessibility and are making a nice profit, you get expeditions turning up constantly fucking your shit. I've only got two colonies and I've already had five expeditions in the space of a year.

They really need to raise the threshold of when they start attacking you. Either that or fix market share, because it makes no sense that one planet with 1000 people on it can hold 7% of the market share for the entire sector.

>>15771219

>XIV Legion battlecarriers

I just found two of those fuckers in the space of 5 minutes, I guess the RNG really loves them.

All these niggers getting battlecrusiers and I only find class V planets with a hard cap of 6 + 3 admins you cant improve.

Wtf devs

This update really made exploration annoying.

I think I'll go back to bounty hunting.

>>15771486

Don't sell it, once you get a colony you can put it onto your fuel production and make the Sindria dicks cry as you rake in that dosh from your fuel business.

>>15771486

Put in in your fuel making facility and become fuel daddy

>>15771492

>>15771501

I won't sell it but so far my colonization attempts have all been shite, I'm exploring to find a suitable planet

>>15771508

Remember to keep all cores you come across, you can place them later on facilities, red ones lower demand by 1 and green ones lower demand by 1 plus 50% upkeep for the facility

>>15771527

Gamma cores are shit though, they decrease demand and this decreases your profits. It's better to sell them all, or MAYBE store 1 per mining industry, in case of a drug shortage.

>>15771379

I needed the money, mistakes were made

I swear to god where the fuck can you find forges, I have a corrupted one but I need more to get the empire doing more than taking

>trying to fit any ship

pretty boring stuff tbh Why can't they sell ships with weapons on them already.

>>15771810

You can just autofit and modify from there you lazy cunt

>bait some pirates into a blackhole

>they get stuck

>watch and see how they get destroyed

>nothing happens

>CR is 0% but they dont die

nani?

>>15771798

I have only found two and 10 shitty ones, but i think you only need one to get perfect ships for all your colonies.

>>15771810

only the ones you build come with the weapons.

>>15771231

btw, it scales. It's 1000*level, so while my colonies will eventually make it even, it's still going to hurt.

>>15771798

Corrupted nanoforge is enough, just your ships will be a little bad.

>>15771810

Just autofit everything, you lazy nigger.

>>15771847

>>15771816

It's not the fitting it's buying the weapons.

>>15771900

you will get your weapons from salvage or killing shit.

>>15771864

This is why i don't enter buttfuck neighbourhood without legions

>>15771864

Dude how many beacons you ignored lmao

>>15772005

I've had beacons spawn under the stars so you can't see them until you get really close and zoom right in. I mean it's never been a big problem since it warns you if you are about to warp in on a hostile fleet - you can usually just run away.

I've been savescumming to scout systems for a potential colony but they all suck. Are my standards just too high?

All I want is vast ruins with farmland and minerals, what's a good spot for my first colony; I don't want a moneysink.

>>15771824

If they have zero combat readiness you could fly in on an asteroid with engines strapped to it and wipe them out - just go get them its impossible to lose.

>>15772200

They are randomnly generated, the only thing you can control is when starting it gives you the choice of how you want the galaxy to work

>>15771824

I flew into a black hole to see what would happen and ended up sitting there for 3 months before getting bored.

All black holes do is drain your CR. Eventually you'll run out of supplies and get a small chance of malfunctions happening, and with the tiny amount of damage they do it would take years for a whole fleet to get destroyed.

>>15772200

>what's a good spot for my first colony

Vast/widespread ruins, rare&common minerals and maybe some farmland to produce food, I was lucky and found a pretty good planet with those stats ,also dont go over 200% hazard or it will be a moneysink

>>15772200

Systems with beacons usually have decent planets to colonize and aren't difficult to clear out if they are low threat.

Sometimes I feel like Alex is one of those game dev/designers that no one will recognize. I'm kind of mad that the guy who did rimworld would be remembered as a good games design guy who wrote a book while Alex's blog explaining how to design game systems that are both coherent AND fun to play will be lost to time

>>15772562

I will remember him

>>15772978

>I've got like five more at the very least. And that's not counting the whole operation time cuckery.

I got the time and you the autisum, do it.

Well shit you can use alpha cores for planet admins

>>15773226

>He doesnt know

Anon…

>>15772978

And that was exactly why marine boarding got scrapped once gameplay changes was on the table. Marines were basically a slot machine back in the day where it could range from "your 500 marines took over the onslaught" to "the ship's clown activated the self destruct mechanism and killed everyone". Also instead of making d-mods a pain, alex made it integral to game progression instead, as in don't expect non military shipyards to sell pristine ships so get used to driving some d-mods around

>>15773176

Do you have operation perks? Salvaging, looting and raiding perks are kind of mandatory this version

>>15773411

Anon storage ships and tankers are a must, always

>>15773411

Eat the blueprints.

>>15774079

Only red beacon systems have to be cleared of Remnants before colonisation. In yellow and orange systems they're free defence force.

>>15773683

You're talking to someone who first played this game when it was known as starfarer, who remembers when totalasscancer shilled it and surprisingly blown off by the devs as well as someone who worked on the original yanks vs commies in space mod.

So yeah, I'm in a good position to say, look, if something is good now - it's getting fucked in the next patch. Las PD? I used to deck cruisers in burst ones and watch everything melt. Now they can barely take missiles on. Speaking of missiles sabbots and most missiles you'd want to use got their speed lowered so they can't catch up with a tanker. Get that - a missile designed to stop a fleeing target can't fly for shit. And that was like 0.76.

>You can not like it, but there's a reason it's the way it is

What I don't like, excuse or tolerate in any capacity are dipshits that tolerate arbitrary shit that wasn't in the game, that doesn't bring anything positive to the game and that's there now only to extend the shelf-time via artificial grind. I mean, why would you earn that ship with hard fought combat? Nah, that's not fun.

>crawl back to whatever shithole taught you to (((yikes))) at people

I'm not joking. Between the shit stale memes and the lemming shilling you stick out like a sore. Fuck off.

>>15774123

>You're talking to someone who first played this game when it was known as starfarer, who remembers when totalasscancer shilled it and surprisingly blown off by the devs as well as someone who worked on the original yanks vs commies in space mod.

>yanks vs commies

Are you talking about Ironclads?

Because the guy that made it lost interest, so now I'm maintaining it..or at least am trying to.

>>15774123

totalasscancer shilled it and surprisingly blown off by the devs as well as someone who worked on the original yanks vs commies in space mod.

Do elaborate, I need a laugh. Was this alex's autism kicking in so he started yelling at the late totalbiscuit to fuck off shilling it until he's done with the game?

> Las PD? I used to deck cruisers in burst ones and watch everything melt.

Burst is still shit, but LRPD is now the way to go. Small burst is still viable but not what they used to be.

>missiles sabbots and most missiles you'd want to use got their speed lowered so they can't catch up with a tanker. Get that - a missile designed to stop a fleeing target can't fly for shit.

A missile launched from anything smaller than a destroyer would fail to chase fleeing targets. Fighter, bombers and the smaller frigate would harry a target enough for a capital's bombardment to reach the target. The speed nerf was thanks to the AI blowing each other up with harpoon spam so you can thank Alex for that.

>What I don't like, excuse or tolerate in any capacity are dipshits that tolerate arbitrary shit that wasn't in the game, that doesn't bring anything positive to the game and that's there now only to extend the shelf-time via artificial grind. I mean, why would you earn that ship with hard fought combat? Nah, that's not fun.

The meta go changed, now the easier way to gain a battleship isn't direct combat, but exploring for blueprints and building your own. The only thing I'll not call Alex out for is making salvaging a secondary mechanic with how the D-mods are being handled in 0.9, which I think is actually better than the old version's vision of conducting actual piracy to bolster your fleet.

>>15774396

Take the industry skills and slap some good ai cores on those facilities and you'll reach a few mil with that planet.

>>15774407

What else should I build on this one? I'm already building the commerce facility and i'll add a station asap

>>15774415

That's the beauty of it. AI cores magically reduce the resource requirement, so you can have smelters that produce metals out of thin air or heavy factories that don't use said metals. Leaving both free to be sold. Essentially roam about random planets and grind abandoned stations or drones for cores and tech.

>>15774426

I only have gamma cores right now, should I still use them? Some anon here said they only reduced the demand in drug if I remember

>>15774433

Read, nigger. What does their tooltip say? What's the effect? Why don't you save, try it, and even see whether you can reslot them afterwards?

>>15774391

He pops up occasionally.

I keep flying around the various solar systems but I can't find any pirates to farm and I'm running out of money for supplies. I also haven't found any scavenge points to farm. The only bounties I can see are for taking on massive carrier groups.

How do you make enough money to start making money for free in this game?

>>15774833

Running drugs from pirate stations and running supplies back, usually.

>>15774833

Way I've figured out how to make cash is by running scan derelict/domian probe missions with the wolf, kite and a dram. Replaced the wolf and the kite with a destroyer and a cruiser but in effect it's the same deal. I hang around the core systems until there's two scan missions in the same vague general direction, then go out, do them, head back. Costs about 10,000 to fully restock in supplies and fuel while I make 120,000+ each run.

>>15774833

Check the bars. They usually have decent missions

>>15774849

I tried to go to a criminal base to get drugs, but I had to kill 3 criminal fleets just to get there even though I "go dark"ed, and now they won't sell me drugs because they're whiny bitches. Is there a transponder setting for "hello fellow criminals, y'know i'm something of a criminal myself. gee, you wouldn't be able to let me pass so i can deal some of those great drugs, would you? c'mon, be a pal"? Or do I just need to broadcast a trigger warning or something?

>>15775082

I keep seeing stuff like "get an AI core" but I can't find any stores that carry them to complete the mission, and no matter how many fleets I kill nothing drops them. I also see food transport missions, but I'm not running a charity fleet here. I'll keep checking them.

>>15774988

I'll keep an eye out for these, though I'd really prefer to make a profit murdering people if possible.

>>15775050

>How would you guys personally rate the game and what are your opinions about it?

7/10. It's something I look forward to playing for now but I'll be bored of in a couple weeks.

>Can I also become a space pirate or is being a space jew the only option

This is related to my main complaint about the game: the only fleets that exist are pirates, scavengers, faction militaries, and I guess the very occasional trade fleet that're also filled with military ships. All the export/import stuff is intangible, ships don't actually need to transport stuff for items and money to be exchanged. The universe feels a little dead.

So no, realistically you can't be a space pirate.

>>15775082

Bar missions pay poorly unless you have multiple super freighters, and they're only available every few planets. Annoying enough to get that they're usually not worth effort.

>>15775135

Only way you can get AI cores is by scavenging derelict orbital habitats, derelict research centers, domain probes - which only drop gammas as far as I know, domain survey ships & domain motherships.

>>15775050

>How would you guys personally rate the game and what are your opinions about it?

Eh, it's okay. Good combat mechanics, but the meta seems to discourage combat, so most of the game is just clicking around to move your fleet from A to B endlessly.

>What things did you guys personally do in the game and what was the best parts about it?

Tried to make a profit through piracy, but a combat freighter the size of a small city sells for less than 20 boxes of hamburgers in this game; who in the fuck balanced this economy, Ocasio-Cortez?

>Can I also become a space pirate or is being a space jew the only option?

It seems like you have to be Space Jew to support being a Space Pirate, because you can't make money through piracy. It costs more to rearm your ships and feed your crew than you make for selling entire fleets of captured ships.

>Is the game like FTL but on a grander scale?

No, it's like Escape Velocity: Nova on a grader scale, but all gameplay is gated by spreadsheets.

>>15775149

Oh, I see. I thought those were just free storage points, because I've never seen a scavenge or salvage option when I've docked at them. Thanks.

>>15775185

Seeing as crime is the most profitable business in the real world, it should also be the most profitable business in this game. Murdering people and selling their stuff is pure profit for minimal expenditure - basically risk-free income as long as you're carrying a big enough stick.

>>15775210

>>15775213

Nice. So I just fly around aimlessly from system to system in unexplored space to find these, yeah? I think my fleet has a tanker so I can probably search 2 or 3 per run.

>>15775219

Easiest way to find them is to accept a scan derelict probe mission. There's likely one or two more probes in the system they point you towards, I've found kinda they tend to bunch up in star systems

>>15773314

I went full industry, technology and leadership that gives me carrier bonuses, but no combat, so i can pilot a ship to save my life, but damn the astral class carrier is OP as fuck.

My fleet is Astral Carrier, two midline mini-carrier, one low tech minicarrier and a conquest class battlecrusier, if i get 120 points I can melt anything.

>>15774079

>it has some ayy(i)lmaos

those are AI ships, made by humans.

Anyone got crashed to desktop when clicking on "custom production" ?

>Found Red planet

>bullied the AI

>Found the Domain mothership

>bullied her and her children

>found a cryoship thingy

>Made a colony in the middle of fucking nowhere and gave them a home

I have explored half of the damn place, anything else out there to find?

>>15775330

You need to go back, carlos.

>>15775236

Who offers those missions? I keep checking the bar, but all I get are transport missions for the most part.

>>15775447

When you pass by a star with a planet or a planet in-star of a certain faction there'll be some temp contracts of said faction that you can take. Pirate bounties, survey missions etc, along with 'survey domain probe'. You can see all the missions available to you with the E key, remember to hit accept on them if you want to do them.

>>15775468

Oh shit, that's a hell of a thing. Just did my first one - required about 250 supplies for repairs both ways and about 500 fuel total since it was at the extreme opposite end of the universe through a million hyperspace gas clouds, but I salvaged enough supplies and fuel to more than cover my expenses and pulled out 2 gamma cores and a "pristine nanoforge" which I have no idea what the fuck it is but it's worth 500k credits so fuck yeah.

>>15773558

I have one Dram tanker and three Civilian Transports, I take it that's nowhere near enough?

>>15773561

Consuming the blueprints means I carry the knowledge permanently right? Even though all of these pertain to colonies, I'll be able to use them down the road, considering I don't have one now.

>>15775516

> pulled out a "pristine nanoforge"

Absolute lel.

Don't sell that if you ever plan to make a colony.

>>15775534

Do I just go colonize a planet in a system with a faction I'm allied with, or is it better to go into the uncharted territories? Do I need to sit there defending that shit? Where the hell can I buy energy weapons because apparently it's all my ship has hardpoints for?

I have so many questions.

>>15775534

>Don't sell that if you ever plan to make a colony.

He can sell it and then rebuy it later, if he remembers were he sold it.

>>15775693

Alex is a pretty cool guy, while there is some criticism regarding the choices he made for development, it's clear that he gives a shit about the game, the community etc

Remember to keep a few salvage rigs, Im almost sure that finding 5 beta cores after dealing with a probe was due to it

>>15776191

How many? I always keep one.

>>15776264

I usually keep 3 but I always run around exploring or going into pirate station bounties so it may be a bit overkill

Also

>found Paragon blueprint

Shiiiiieeet

>>15776277

Intredasting, i haven't accepted those pirate station bounties yet. Cause i'm a poorfag.

>>15776301

Make the universe your bitch.

>>15776301

Is the Paragon even any good? It always seems to get absolutely megarekt by Onslaught-sama

>>15776347

Now Onslaught gets annihilated by 2k range quad tachyon lances on Paragon

>>15776391

>>15776347

They both have downsides, paragon cant go firing its lances for too long without needing to vent and being an easy target, onslaught is really though buts paragon can snipe him while powering down its systems because fuck you energy weapons.

>>15776630

Imo if youre already running with hammerheads or bigger you should also own at least 2 rigs because 50% is nice

You can also try going full retard and buying 15 rigs, a fuel ship, a freighter and escort that shit to your nearest domain-era habitat or mining station

How do I git gud at combat? The problem is every ship seems to be either too slow to catch anything or too weak to kill anything. I've been getting by with torpedo spam but anything stronger than pirates is proving to be too much.

>>15776645

Keep your ships simple, if you're having a hard time just slap misiles in the front and wait for other ships to shutdown their shields, play around the angles of a ship, you wont kill a capital with a shuttle but you will with a destroyer that just went around their shields, if youre getting swarmed remember to buy point defense turrets and learn when to shield and when to vent, dont use phase frigates, those are only annoying as shit and barely do anything

>>15776882

Hi Featherstep Dervish

>>15776887

>phase frigates

I've had one hell of a run with massed wolves. Kinetic sabbots to drop shields, small pulse IRs and one tactical laser to keep the pressure on.

>point defense

Improvised hangar and mine pods seems way stronger in this one. More cost effective too.

>>15776888

I'll check your trips but you'll have to explain that one to me.

>>15776895

That dude in the pic is clearly "inspired" by Dervish from the old Shadowrun Storytime threads on /tg/. According to the storytime thread, dude originally wanted his handle to be Featherstep due to the skimmers in his cyberlegs, but everyone (in-game) called him gay and a faggot for even suggesting it.

>>15776988

Is that some kind of lemur girl?

>>15776988

"America-san" is a correct description, though; they had a run where they had to extract some information out of someone in Japan, and part of the run had Dervish drive a decorated truck for a guy, and adopted a stereotypical "AMERICA-SAN" gimmick to go with it.

>>15776630

>Salvage Rig

I actually have two of those and that wierd looking science spaceship that has sensors and surveying equipment mods.

>>15776816

>build colony directly in the center of everything

>build space station

>upgrade the fuck out of it until it's a death star

>wait until everybody who claims to be neutral to favorable towards you sends massive "expeditions" to "assess" your colony

>hover your fleet over your orbital death machine and wait for their idiot admiral to attack you

>putter your ship around your fully armed and operational murder depot harassing the fuck out of everything that comes close

>acquire entire fleet

>refit and resupply right where you're hovering

>dump all weapons into storage and all supplies into colony stockpile

>repeat until you have a maxed out fully fleshed out carrier group

You don't really have to git gud so much as you have to have more gud pointed at the enemy to make them git.

>>15775135

>Is there a transponder setting for "hello fellow criminals, y'know i'm something of a criminal myself. gee, you wouldn't be able to let me pass so i can deal some of those great drugs, would you? c'mon, be a pal"?

A bunch of carriers.

You can befriend pirates if you work at it but you gotta be able to get to their stations in the first place to take missions.

>>15776816

>How do I git gud at combat?

Its about teamwork and having the biggest fleet of fighter/bomber squadrons.

>>15777159

If even for flavour text I wish that i was good enough to mod in the transponder setting as constantly blasting out the pirate song. So core faction patrols will get really fucking annoyed if they are friendly with you because you wasted their fuel emergency burning to chase you down while the pirates who get hailed by you basically go what the shit is even happening

>when you get tired and start saturniting core colonies with your fleet of 2 paragon and 2 legion classes with a few other shit

I'm done being mister nice anymore

>>15775135

>Is there a transponder setting for

you need to turn that shit off, go sneaky mode and get to the pirate base with out getting noticed, then you say "that your transponder doesnt work, yarr harr!"

>go into red beacon sector

>find nice planet and create colony since I haven't seen anything yet

>"maybe theres nothing"

>SUDDENLY

>see 8 remant fleets flying at full speed

>manage to kill 3 in which they had like 4 battlecruisers

>they just keep coming

>fly like a bitch

I had fun but this cunts are dying, they took all my carriers and battleships

>>15774988 (checked)

I just wait around hegemony patrols for them to get triggered and kill something and then I salvage everything that gets left behind. Trying to generally increase the size of crew I can carry without devouring all my supplies so I can start doing surveys and maybe make a colony. Currently my best ship is a destroyer which I restored and it kicks ass, as least for the things I tend to fight.

>>15775149

I got a beta core from a remnant ship just now.

>>15777824

Best way to make dosh early on is by running cargo to pirate bases. Some of them never seem to have fleets around them so you don't need to worry about fighting, but since they're pirates they constantly have defecits of nearly everything. If you pay attention to what certain bases tend to want you can load up on it in advance and then when you fly near the system there's a pretty high chance you'll get a procurement mission for stuff you're already carrying.

I had a system with a pirate planet and a Persean planet that both constantly wanted tons of harvested organs for some reason. I would go to the nearby Tri-Tachyon system and buy like 400 of them, then go back to Persean system and recieve 1-3 missions at once, all asking for organs. I made like 200k per run.

It's also worth keepig about 50 heavy armaments on hand, they don't take up much cargo space so you can wait for a mission to pop up and and take a 2 minute detour to net yourself 20k profit.

>>15777908

I'd just buy a colossus from the black market and make a ton prospecting. Also get tech and shit and scout for prime real estate in the process. For a more difficult question what strikecraft are worth using?

So I'm holding off playing this till 1.0. Any ideas what's planned for future updates or is pretty much feature complete?

>>15777908

>I NEED A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT

I'll have to try that, sounds good. Where can I buy ships from other than salvage? I probably want to get one or two Nebulas in prep for making a colony, though I suppose I first have to find a decent planet in a system that isn't claimed and doesn't have too big a rogue fleet presence in it. There was one with a really nice terran planet in it but it is full of remnant; considering just beefing up and killing them.

>>15778397

You didn't think that through did you.

I got a couple of days of fun out of it but it just gets tedious. I feel like I've seen everything there is except for the second unlockable building after the shield and something about a cryoship. I wish you could speed up more than 2x and do the same for battles too.

Alex if you read this you need to fucking work in the deployment system.

Yeah its so you don't abuse and spam a shitload of ships but nigger you give me 120 at most from the get go and for example, in red beacon sectors you need at least 2 fleets out at the same time, renmant ships just chew you out because you either get 2-3 big ships in and they get swarmed, if you get a shitload of ships in they do nothing and are not even good as distractions. Why not give us a skill in one of the trees that lets you make actual use of the command points? Shit, what I want is a reinforcement button or something that increases your damage/resistance/etc for a set amount of time. Most ships specials usually suck ass.

FUCK, red beacons are just "here have 4 fleets at the same time, also they can pull 4 fucking battleships at the same time"

>>15778504

Did you increase battle size to max in the settings?

>>15778657

>200 damage per second to shields

>long ass range for its weight

>forces enemy to not lower shields

I think you need to learn what tactics are for.

>>15778760

Are you retarded? A taclaser does better at same range for only 4 OR.

>>15778423

>dreamtime

Man, they really got obnoxious with their watermarks huh? I guess they got tired of being memes for free. who the fuck buys stock images anyways

>>15778864

Tac lasers don't even register for any shields that aren't frigate sized. Furthermore one more tac laser is one less PD unless you took integrated PD AI and even then tac lasers are even shittier than normal las PD. If your medium mount ISN'T your main source of damage (IE any larger ship up to capital) you're better off running support beams in mediums, PD in smalls and whatever tickles your function in larges. Damage wise mediums just can't compete with large and graviton and EMP lasers are the go to for pressuring enemies with close to no flux cost to yourself.

>>15778397

You're alone in your autism.

>>15778908

Anon, none of what you just said is true. Absolutely nothing. It makes sense but it just doesn't fly with the actual game. For example I've tried NINE graviton beams and their impact on shields of a destroyer no less was still a joke. That faggot tier tac laser though? Keeps their shields up and even finishes off some mostly dead stragglers. As for damage I've seen 6-7 small pulse lasers outperform that whooping 30 OR plasma cannon like you wouldn't believe.

Honestly, weapons seem to fall into the two categories of broken good and plain broken.

>>15778657

What I do

>dominator with reapers and neddlers

>ram them and unload guns until they start lowering and upping their shields due to neddling their flux

>shoot reapers

>ded or at least overloaded

>since you have 3 slot just alternate

There, fuck renmants, also tachyon lance is hillariously op

Seed: MN-8850159085421983403

Look for the Mnemosyne system to the north east of the core worlds. there's a terran world with 75% hazard rating and 3 domain era satellites.

So how do I start out on this game, should i just roam around and kill pirate and loot/sell that?

iv not played this since like 2015 and i never real got very far.

>>15778248

>>15778657

Khopesh are one of the cheapest and best, highly replaceable as you can find chips for it everywhere

Longbows because sabots are really OP this version

Broadswords are mostly there to distract with flares and do the most decent job of it since they are cheap and have the most armour/hull

Tridents and daggers are great since their torpedos are fast enough to catch frigates

as for graviton beams, use a sunder with 2 gravitons and a High intensity laser combined with advanced optics and integrated targeting for a super long ranged ship that stays safe because they outrange everyone.

>>15779034

quickest way is to safety override all your ships and bounty hunt, take out the safety overrides when you start seeing cruiser sized ships

Last time I played this I loved piloting a Tempest frigate with dual Pulse Lasers (set to alternate), a fixed front shield and extra speed/acceleration/manuverability. I could fly circles around virtually any other ship and the pulse lasers actually had enough punch to take out capitals with enough time.

>>15779041

do i just roam for them or is there way of hunting them?

>>15779041

Yeah, longbows and khopesh are really something but I keep hoping for something I've missed. Have you tried Lux for example?

>sunder with 2 gravitons and a High intensity laser

He'll literally do nothing until someone pops their shield. And when they do it's the HILAser that does the work since graviton are even worse against armor. A sunder with some needlers, IRs and double hammers is something else though. Excellent at any range, great solo and only gets better in packs.

>>15779056

Use the intel tab, tells you where to find bounty targets and what their fleet looks like.

>>15779079

cheers, also seen trading to a near by system for organics looks like it can get me some cash, how dose the black market work? it says you can get passed tarrifs but whats the trade off?

>>15776882

El Goblino

>>15779070

That sunder build sounds pretty fragile the advantage of my build is that the beams don't produce any flux for the ship anyway and that you're too far away to attack. Just try the build and see how far the beams reach.

>>15779098

There's a chance you get caught and lise reputation, to lower the chance, buy stuff from the regular market too.

>>15779115

HILaser produces a fair bit. And I still have mine in the nose slot plus integrated targeting unit so it's not like it's a melee build. More like a more then one trick pony build or something. And bear in mind that I saved 4-5 OR per slot downgrading the medium slots to IRs so extra space to maximize capacitors for that shield strength or maybe throw in a hangar for some mining drone meatshields.

>>15779144

>HILaser produces a fair bit.

Generally offset-able amount if you're not running another pulse hogger like heavy blaster or IR pulse. HIL is good enough as both suppression and attack weapon that my paragon for the longest time had two of the at the front until I got bored of always being away from a fighter and changed them to extended autopulse lasers for the burst potential.

>More like a more then one trick pony build or something

Only if you're running the sunder solo as the flagship. In a combined arms fleet, having a smaller frigate/destroyer effectively lock down a cruiser indefinitely from supporting the main fight in very valuable.

>I saved 4-5 OR per slot downgrading the medium slots to IRs so extra space to maximize capacitors for that shield strength or maybe throw in a hangar for some mining drone meatshields.

If you go the mining drone route, put 1 antimatter blaster or a EMP cannon on your frontal small. The antimatter blaster is like having a massive flux based torpedo at your disposal and I love it.

>>15778953

That's because you're boating graviton beams. It's a useful suppression tool to keep ships from being able to effectively use their weapons over and over again because they need to go well within the range of the beams to unload. In frontal facing ships, I have one at most, and I always keep it pointed at my targetted and in side facing ships, 2. Once you get enough tech, you should replace it with EMP beams anyway because EMP does all of the above plus EMP damage for the higher OP cost and rarity.

>>15779144

You're half right, it's a build meant to support Medusa's from long range. The medusa is built to have hardened shields which means that cracking it is pretty difficult. the medusa's build up hard flux while the sunder sits in the back preventing the ship from dropping shields even if the medusa is venting. If they do drop their shield they lose their armour instantly allowing the graviton beams to actually do damage. If they don't drop their shield, the medusa finishes venting and starts blasting the ship again.

>>15779158

>boating graviton beams

Not in this version I'm not. My point was that even when stacked to ridiculous it still fails to do it's job ie fuck up their shield. More concretely a cheaper, smaller weapon ie the tac laser accomplishes the same goal of keeping them on their toes with shields raised except it doesn't have the 50% penalty towards armor gravs have. So not only does it work just as well in a suppression role it's actually better since it can apply damage to smaller craft or mess up fighters.

You see how that's silly?

>EMP cannon

Are those any good? I've had really, really mixed results when it come to EMP weaponry.

>combined arms sunder

Two wolves per sunder per flank with my actual melee sunder and a condor with few more wolves in center just brought down three expeditionary forces one after another. So I'm fairly satisfied. Granted, the pirate and the luddite one's were crap but that diktat one had two capitals.

>>15779186

>it can apply damage to smaller craft or mess up fighters.

But anon, that's literally the tac laser's job. Anything outside of them, the tac laser is useless without extensive hullmods and that's speaking from using a paragon that boats tac lasers. If we're talking suppressing shields, 2 tac lasers does not beat one graviton. The graviton isn't a thing for you to overload shields with. It's to keep enemies from constantly firing at you, hence why it's a cheap suppression alternative. The tac is a good support weapon when you have spare flux and need extra beams on target as they do equal damages to all components. The graviton is a good support weapon when you don't have the spare flux and need an extra beam to keep someone else's flux up high instead of going down when they're not shooting at you. How hard is this to get?

>>15779186

Go for EMP beams if possible, EMP cannons on fighter crafts and frigates will fuck anyone they can strafe. So do put one on your skirmishers and get claw fighters

>

Two wolves per sunder per flank with my actual melee sunder and a condor with few more wolves in center just brought down three expeditionary forces one after another. So I'm fairly satisfied. Granted, the pirate and the luddite one's were crap but that diktat one had two capitals.

Wolves are to me one of the best frigates while sunder personally one of the worst due to the profile and lack of structure, but glad you found a good niche for them. Personally I've played long enough that I never spend a lot of time with destroyers/cruisers. Currently I'm searching for how far torpedo bomber spam will bring me.

>>15779216

Woop, I meant Ion cannons, EMP cannons are the medium version and are less useful due to inferior range to EMP beams.

Is the sector outside core worlds being devoid of anything interesting part of the "RNG knowing the game was pirated", or is the game world still just this damn boring? I remember the mods for earlier versions having much more lively randomized sectors. I guess I have to wait for the bloatmods to give the game some content to play.

I remember this game being significantly more difficult. At the moment making the colony print money and capital ships is trivially easy. Not even the "expeditions" offer any threat, even though they are ridiculously more powerful than the fleets protecting their capital systems. You'd expect they would use that massive construction infrastructure needed to field those fleets for colonization themselves if it's this easy. I guess this explains why the sector is in so bad a condition; everyone is retarded.

I could enact an orbital bombardment holocaust on everyone, but then again I could just orbit my main colony and make tons of money without any effort. I'm not going to even bother going to that red planet because I doubt nothing there can threaten my endless capital ships and the additional overblown crap. Organizing the support fleet would be a too much of a bother.

>>15779210

>graviton is a good support weapon

It's hard to get because that's not what I'm seeing in my game. No mods. Normal difficulty. And grav beam ain't shit. Without any exaggeration it's a 9 OR way to force him to keep his shield up and not vent. A 4 OR laser does the same thing while saving you extra OR and being a more useful weapon all around. Now, I really can't make it any simpler without using handpuppets.

>sunder personally one of the worst

Hey, you've got your preferences but what's not to like? Massive base flux value, reduced damage on shields and generally good slots all around. The ability is not too shabby either.

>>15779246

So far I'm being amused trying out different ship configurations but yeah, pretty boring otherwise.

>>15779250

>Without any exaggeration it's a 9 OR way to force him to keep his shield up and not vent. A 4 OR laser does the same thing while saving you extra OR and being a more useful weapon all around.

The point is that gravitons give +75 flux to you and +200 flux to the enemy, while tacticals just give 75 to both. If all you want it to keep the enemy's shield up tacticals are better, but if you want to drive his flux up, you need gravitons and a distraction, so that the enemy fires his weapon and can't dissipate flux without lowering weapons.

You could just say that weapons just putting hard flux on the shield are superior, but at that point you could as well be using ballistics, which undisputably superior.

>>15779246

Colonies are free money at the moment, similar to how salvage and exploration was cheap money in 0.8.

>>15779262

>He doesn't know the terror of the 40 MIRV spam gryphon.

They're really good support ships, but that's it. Support ships. They really can't be the tip of the spear

>>15779263

Apogees can do Locust or Hurricane missile spam while still being able to fight, carriers do torpedoes better, Harpoons and Pilums seem like they aren't even worth using. Even with expanded missile racks and the resupply Gryphons seem like they can't do enough with what they can carry to be worth the points.

>>15779256

There's also a reason I mention a 2 graviton HIL Sunder build. The HIL helps the gravitons by stripping away the armour, allowing the gravitons to do full damage to the hull. The HIL is pretty good at this and can strip armour from a hull in 3 seconds.

This turns the beams combo into a 700 damage per second beam that costs the sunder 650 flux. If the sunder uses its ship system this turns into 1050 dmg per second for 3 seconds.

>>15779256

>Colonies are free money at the moment

I hope they get nerfed hard. Owning a tiny outpost clinging to existence as a forward home base would be cool, but at the moment the difference between a dingy colony like that and the leading industry center in the sector is some easily acquirable loot and a bit of cash.

The current situation actually reminds me of that Space Viking novel, appropriately enough. In that the main character starts working as an planetary raider giving the name for the book, but only after a few raids he's established enough to start playing interstellar politics on equal grounds with the established polities.

>>15779275

>harpoons

they're good for outfitting smaller ships, larger ships can't really use them effectively

>pilums

great against everything except remnants. The point is to have enough missile carriers to saturate the entire map with slow moving, never ending pilums that arrive right as the flux on both sides is high due to melee. The enemy has to make the choice to pull back and vent if it has reserves, tank the missiles and get overwhelmed or spend flux using PD on the pilum and get overloaded by the melee it's already in. The pilum has a range of 10k, so you can pretty much fire it from second/third line without worry and it'll probably chase the enemy for half the map.

>Even with expanded missile racks and the resupply Gryphons seem like they can't do enough with what they can carry to be worth the points.

Use them as escorts for the second line (typically gauss/pilum carriers). Don't let them spend flux on anything other than firing missiles and reloading and you'll find out how scary having a gryphon that constantly spits out shit ending MIRVs. Though I'm playing at 1000 battle size where there's enough ships deployed to have up to 3 waves during deployment so that my supports stay behind the battleships.

>>15779285

That sounds pretty nice, I'll give bigger battles a try.

>>15779275

Gryphons are player ships, used to alpha bomb everybody and kill them in 5 seconds.

how the fuck do you guys cope with the supply consumption? I either run out to quickly or too poor to buy?

>>15779280

That's a laugh. It's no combo anon, once the shield drop HIL will do all the work. That's it. What you have is a waste of 18 (10) OR you could've use for a hangar or heavier ballistics or whatever.

>>15779256

The point is you're trying to convince me how something more expensive and less useful is better. Is this like a buy American meme or something? :^)

>>15779314

Don't go over the limit, don't use five ships when you can use two and don't forget to scav/prospect. There's also a few skills to help offset that but it's mostly about being cost efficient with your ship composition and or travel plans.

>>15779314

Stop being poor, stupid goyim.

>>15779352

>The point is you're trying to convince me how something more expensive and less useful is better.

We're talking about energy weapons, what did you expect?

>>15779314

Build a colony on any planet that's close to the core, accessibility is king. Resources don't really matter but ruins are nice. Build a space station they are pretty cheap, then add a waystation. You can buy supplies directly from the stockpiles at base cost payable at the end of the month. If you set your colony to free port it's basically free real estate.

>>15779516

Oh I forgot keep the hazard rating 100% or lower or your running costs will be higher.

>>15779360

I don't know if it's just me being retarded but energy weapons seem to do nothing except gay space sparkles. Ballistics seem better and larger is generally better. With the default battle size I can only field 4 cruisers which is awful.

>>15779285

>>15779275

>>15779263

The EECM package hull mod mentions it makes missile speed and tracking better in the description, maybe it makes LRMs actually do something?

>>15779529

Same i'm having better luck with just ballistics and no shield.

>>15779529

Energy weapons in fact are useless unless its a plasma cannon or you stack all of your mounts in one target, and tachyon lances, 2 of those cut trough even remants. Ballistics are just way better as generalistic weapons, they are good at taking down shields and causing flux spikes if swarmed, pair that with mortars and youre gold

>>15779895

Energy weapons are supposed to have terrible flux/damage to compensate for their theoretically better ships.

I mean, can you argue that the Tempest isn't one of the best frigates? And if you look for an alternative it's most likely high tech.

Also to balance the terrible DPS or overfluxing, they tend to have something to compensate like high range or high EMP.

>>15779895

Get a ship with 3 or 4 medium energy mounts and throw phase lances on each and set them all to autofire. Stack the rest of your OP into good omnishields and flux. Get within range of your target, lock the target in, and then do a nice slow spin-to-win. Try to match the spin rate with the recharge rate of the lances, and you'll get continuous burn from a limited-burn weapon. Cuts right through most things, though some do take a little while. I keep mostly defensive support carriers behind me, and I try to pick a ship that has flares as the integral system so I'm mostly untouchable.

I have come dangerously close to disaster a couple of times against heavy ballistics, but usually the flux buildup outpaces their damage output.

>>15779289

This is what I'm dealing with right now as well. I'm just sitting in-system fighting off or bribing fleets while I build it all up. My system has 4 planets, and once I get full fleet command centers and battlestations up and running around all four, I'm hoping there will be enough ships in-system to harass most expeditions down.

Who knows, though. Babysitting might be the meta here.

>>15779895

Define fact because blasters especially are anything but useless. For example autopulse laser is still 45 shots of pure grade A rape for 25 points.

>>15779986

Yeah, that should be more the sufficient.

>Hegemony is planning a trip to inspect my colony's AI cores

>"oh, that's nice…"

>open intel panel

>Hegemony is planning an INSPECTION FLEET because my colony is SUSPECTED TO BE USING AI CORES

>run a quick check lo and behold AI cores are outlawed by the Hegemony

>every single module in every single colony in my system has an AI core installed

There's going to have to be one hell of an exterminatus soon. I'm already fighting off monthly fleets sent by the Persians, the Luddites and the Dicktits, and now I have to deal with the Elon Muskovites.

One thing I don't get - what are the blueprints even for or how do they work? I have an Orbital Works and a Megaport, so how do I tell them to construct a specific capital ship for me from a blueprint?

>>15779358

>Use the efficiency hull mod on whatever ship you can spare the ordinance points on

>buy a shitty freighter to haul around your stolen goods legally obtained wares

>make sure you smack extra cargo space in that freighter as well

>go full buzzard, scavenge ever battle's aftermath.

>>15780355

Use the blueprint with right click, then go into CommanD tab and there you can handle from how are your empire fleets made of and on the last tab you can ask for your empire to custom build shit for you, remember that if your custom cost is more than the cost of your empire production then it will take more than one month to do

>>15780313

>Literally everyone trying to wipe me out

This is exactly (translated to medieval) what happened to me when I tried to make a kingdom in mountain blade. I guess politics and bullying just happens when the player tries to sit at the big table.

>>15780313

You can refuse to uninstall them and get a hefty rep penalty

>>15780313

Just tell your fleets to beat the shit out of them

Also, going for the tech cache mission is fucking dumb, I found a paragon and the high tech carrier bp in the same pull, also found a class v planet with +2 on organics, shitload of ruins and good farmland, bad news its literally at the edge of the fucking sector

>>15780609

>>15780870

I guess I had to do that before they did the inspection, as they confiscated 12 cores immediately. I just reloaded a slightly earlier save and murdered them when they came within range of my colony. It was a big fleet, but so far I've seen nothing that can stand up to a maximum battlestation with 4 large cruisers backing it up.

>>15780524

Oh, nice. I already seemingly have most of the blueprints, so shit's about to get crazy for the bastards attacking me. No longer will they be facing fleets of duct-taped-together "certified pre-owned" ships with 5+ negative hull traits.

>>15780557

It's because they're bitches, for sure. If they weren't afraid of the big swinging dick, they wouldn't be attacking at all.

>>15780888

If you have a pristine forge your ships will come out without D-fiers if not theres a chance they do so be carefull with that.

Found a slight bug, maybe. I had a pirate invasion incoming in about 20 days, and got a pirate in my colony's pub drunk enough to tell me where the base was, so I went and destroyed it and now it's said "Pirate Raid Incoming - 10 Days" for a few weeks now.

I know they're dead, but I'm not sure if they're going to rebuild their base and start the timer going at some point, or if it's just stuck there forever as a tombstone.

>>15780985

I do have a pristine forge, luckily. I'm now glad to know what it actually does.

>>15781075

They'll just build a base somewhere else, dont bother, they usually don't drop that much stuff.

Same with ludic path, only bother with those if your colony is seriously on the bringe of collapse

>>15781104

It was only one system over and it didn't even manage to damage any of my ships, it was just a pile of beams behind a shield on a spinning asteroid. I was expecting at least a defense fleet, but there was nothing.

I feel miserable, the pace of the game has changed, i can't make money or win most big battles. When i finally started a colony, every SPACE NIGGER started to raid my planet, now i have to pay the SPACE JEWS all the money i have every month.

>>15781307

It's like that sometimes, during some of my first colonisation efforts I went from 700k to 5k in two cycles, trial and error

>>15781307

Do probe or derelict scan missions until you have about 1M saved up, then pick your colony and build everything to the max all at once. Make sure you come back when things finish so you can upgrade key components like defense batteries, patrol station and orbital base. You'll have defenses up inside a month, and a deathmoon with an armada operational within 6.

>>15781265

Because you caught them early, if you leave them alone for a while they grow and start causing more trouble

>Find a terran planet with widespread ruins, lots of organics and decent farmland

>One system over find a volcanic planet with ultrarich ores and rare ores plus an ice planet with abundant volatiles

Looks like I'm all set.

>>15781494

This seems to be the meta for colonies at the moment. Everyone is going to try and rape you the second you're remotely successful, so you need to build defenses ASAP even if it means you're hemmoraging money for the first year or two.

I hope it gets changed in future patches, I just want to make some nice comfy colonies that make me a bit of cash without bothering anyone.

>>15781561

>>15781265

It gets new modules over time (artillery batteries), takes about 4 cap ships to crack a fully grown pirate/pather station, about four cycles ago I bought a bigass fleet halfway across the map to take down a station only to find out it only had one modules so I was way overkill

>>15781336

This raid shit has to be changed a bit, how the fuck i'm supposed to fend off a huge fleet composed by 3 Conquest-class and a lot of frigates? It's fucking mid-game, goddammit. I'm literally shaking with anger.

Also, the Mule got any buffs? They seem to be the last ones in the battlefield most of the battles.